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Image123: He knows, not every question is borne out of ignorance.

the other posts ibbetween do not need my time.

keep digging yourself into a deeper hole

Ptolomeus: divine tins? dung!
My English is improving with your help!
Hahahahaha!

Vamo arriba la celeste, querido amigo!
Saludos!

jajajaja

diluminati: almighty crap.

Immaculate bullsh1t!

Uyi Iredia: What's wrong with that ? If he can't routinely destroy someone He wouldn't be God, would He ?

You want me to serve a tyrant? Hell no!



He doesnt even exist

Image123: And he keeps quoting his father, word for word, with glee.

lol....What is wrong with you?


Atheist is not = Satanist

snthesis: I really tried reading all the posts unfortunately cudnt (too lazy )
here's my take on the book of Job and it should clarify any misconceptions.

1stly- God Gave man free will, its either you chose to serve him (Life) or chose not to serve Him (Death), the point that you are alive and you openly chose not to serve Him is by His mercy, nothing else- He looks after His Own.
2ndly- Job was the Only one recognized by satan to be serving God, satan couldnt match the same attribute of devotedness to God with any of his Kindred or Children.
3rdly- even Job realized that his children were not following according to the ways of God- hence he made sacrifices on their behalf (trying to intercede, unfortunately with intercession it doesnt apply to repentance)- Job 1:5 "And it was so, when the days of their feasting were gone about, that Job sent and sanctified them, and rose up early in the morning, and offered burnt offerings according to the number of them all: for Job said, It may be that my sons have sinned, and cursed God in their hearts. Thus did Job continually"
4thly: the devil was able to take away Jobs Children because they belonged to him, they were sinners.


lesson learnt:
if you are still a sinner , u ar outside the hedge of God's protection and are susceptible to the whims of the devil cos you already belong to him.


addendum:
each person has to work his salvation- ur parents or siblings righteousness cant cover for sum1 else- "u are totally on ur own"

Yawn. Another christian defending the murder of young children. The hypocrisy is that none of these christians including Synthesis would want their family to be judged by Job's standard. Murdered for to test the father's patience.


Where in the bible did it say that Job's children/family were killed because they were not righteous? There were killed because God allowed Satan to test Job. Do not be a liar


[size=18pt]4 “Skin for skin!” Satan replied. “A man will give all he has for his own life. 5 But now stretch out your hand and strike his flesh and bones, and he will surely curse you to your face.[/size]

london2lasgidi: Science/Whiteman/Esau isn't trying to mock God, he has never believed in God because he isn't a spiritual being. He only used Christianity as a tool to rule the world, and now that it has served its purpose; he's about to discard it for atheism to get new sheeple.

When it comes to spirituality; the whiteman/science/esau is and will always be a fraud.

He also created Jesus and hell fire; and both don't exist.

See this guy!


When did science = white man?

Bigotry in excess

Onliie: Logicboy, you are the most illogical boy I've ever come across. Didn't you see "circle of the earth" in my post? It shows that the bible already speaks about the sphericity of the earth before copernicus or galileo discovered it.

A circle is flat

A circle is not a sphere. A sphere is not flat

Image123: were you ever a new creature in Christ, were you ever born again? i am very certain that you wasted the first 22years of your life if the answers are negative. You never had faith, you were only born into a religion, you are yet without faith and wasting your life still.

See this slowpoke for Jesus. I was baptized and born again. You are free to act crazy and know everything about my christian past without even knowing or seeing me.

tbaba1234: That's incorrect

Agreed

Image123: You were never born again, in other words, Jesus never knew you, in basic words, you never had faith. satan doesn't exist, but God conveniently exists in your follydom, so that you can talk about Him all year long on nairaland. You need a useful job.

When I talk about God or Satan, it is always hypothetical.


BTW...I had faith. A christian believes in Jesus as his or her saviour. I believed and then I stopped. Who are you to judge who is a christian or not?

You would be the 1st person to claim that Oyedepo/Okotie are christians. Hypocrite

LMAO!


All of una don craze!!! Luagh wan kill me for this thread!

[quote author=Nn-a-Nn-a][b][/b][s][/s][i][/i]1:20
Then Job arose, and rent his mantle, and shaved his head, and fell down upon the ground, and worshipped,

1:21
And said, Naked came I out of my mother's womb, and naked shall I return thither: the LORD gave, and the LORD hath taken away; blessed be the name of the LORD.

1:22
In all this Job sinned not, nor charged God foolishly.

LESEN 1 JOB RETAINED HIS INTEGRITY[/quote]You need psychiatric help

ijawkid: Evolutionists are just blatantly mad people.........

ÍmagiÑe Àll of em trÝing to provÉ organisms ,both unicellular and multi-cellular all Çame by chance.....

Crazy indeed....

@deep sight and davidlyn.....

Good job my bro's.....

Yes, biologists are mad. Yes. But a Nigerian who follows a religion that enslaved his forefathers and believes in talking snakes and women created from ribs is not mad

Image123: liar liar, you never had faith to begin with.

I was a catholic for 22 years. I didnt know that you were omnipotent to read my mind and know whether I had faith

Image123: Even kids know that Job was the one been tested here, not God. God knew the answers already, He's omnitoomuch, remember?

Satan tempted God and God allowed it;

[size=14pt]4 “Skin for skin!” Satan replied. “A man will give all he has for his own life. 5 But now stretch out your hand and strike his flesh and bones, and he will surely curse you to your face.”[/size]

Image123: 1Corinthians 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

Context?

Image123: Job 42:13 He had also seven sons and three daughters.
Sentiments, this is not a REPLACEMENT in the sense of substitute, exchange or supplant. but a blessing. Guess you would have preferred that Job had no more children in the end to show us that his children are irreplaceable.

A blessing? What part of murdering children is a blessing. Do you know what it is to lose a child? Losing a child just for a test of faith is not funn

Image123: Even the less deceived of your ilk know from the reading, who inflicted suffering and why. It's unfortunate your lord satan has chosen to have you in total delusion.

Satan doesnt exist.

Image123: as usual, logickid showing his illogical frustrations and lack of maturity.

As usual, no rebuttal from Image123. No substance, nothing.

Onliie: Isaiah 40 vs 22: It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in.

Isaiah 40 vs 22: It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in.

Isaiah 40 vs 22: It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in.

Matthew 4:8, "The devil took him (Jesus) to a very high mountain and displayed before him all the kingdoms of the world in their magnificence...."


This could only be possible of the world is flat.

jcross19: my. Brother don't frustration lead you to destruction.okay you are asking evidence right then look at yourself , you are one of the evidence okay check your body think someone you don't know plan your body physiology and your react with your surrounding, let me give one clue about certain plan of a creator okay why do you. Excrete?if you don't, you know the damage . Then look a machine being filled with a gas after combustion it liberate by-product that it's a machine made by human . Then ask who plan all these physiology in your body. Only a fool will.tell me there is no God . Then let ant-God produce his or her oxygen without making use of the existing resources , then I will believe there is no God. Only the frustrated people come out there is no God.

Evolution.

Read about it before you talk nonsense

kanywoods: ATHEISM IS A LUXURY NO AFRICAN MAN CAN AFFORD........leave d idiot he his just tryin HARD to be like an oyinbo MAN....[MUMU]

Ignorance is a disease. Atheism is something that is worldwide. It is a disbelief in god or gods.


Christianity came to West Africa through slavery by Europeans

Islam came through Arab slavery.

jcross19: logicboy,discovery can only start from somewhere.so, not even the jews that discovered God but. They were tribe that close to the discovery of the existent of supreme creator , so that was jesus came through the tribe since they have the knowledge of God existent.so logic boy discovery start from somewhere like how civilization started from some where too before it get to all over the place . The truth is that some of the bible story is mere fiction that lack some authenticity okay ask any christian what it's meaning of job and jacob they will tell you that job means suffering and the bible told us that job was rich before the predicament then how did his parent knew that he will suffer in future,then look at jacob means fraud now look at story of jacob and esau how he defrauded his brother then how did isaac knows that one of the twin will defraud other and gave one such name huh so what I see is that some stories in bible has some flaws because the name of the subject match the the content of the stories which is wrong.to me is like tortoise story still there is God and jesus I have visited some tourism sites which can't even be explain by science that makes me believe there is God. Am christian but a brainwashed one. I believe not everything in bible is real some are just make up.just know There is ALMIGHTY GOD.

There is no God. Not one evidence for god.

Judaism was not even the first religion, so stop spouting ignorant BS

Onliie: The bible was tested in fire 7 times

What kind of stupidity is this?


The bible burns like any other paper;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu0ylERBcYs

Onliie: You saying there is no God is like the computer saying "there is no man, I evolved from abacus"

The most foolish analogy ever made.



There is no evidence for God and has never been.

dasparrow: God allowed satan to test Job. Why are you (an obvious satan worshipper)quick to blame God Almighty yet you are not angry at satan who metted out so much pain on Job? God gave satan the permission to test Job but never told satan to inflict sickness on Job or kill his whole family. That was satan's wicked initiative/idea and not Jehovah God's. In fact, if God had allowed it, satan would have killed Job too.

Please leave Almighty Jehovah God alone. God ended up blessing Job beyond measure including with children and he allowed Job to live long to see his future descendants upto the 4th generation I believe and Job's daughters were the most beautiful in all the land. Now tell me what compensation satan gave Job after all the wickedness and pain he satan put Job through? and then you still have the nerve to call Daddy Jehovah 'wicked'? If He was wicked, people like you would have been long dead, buried and food for the maggots going by the way you speak so disrespectfully about Almighty Jehovah God. You think our Almighty Jehovah God is your Jonathan Goodluck who feeds on 3 million naira a day while 80% of his citizens languish in abject poverty? Mtshew!

Dont be foolish .

God gave the permission. End of Story. God is responisble for the murder of Job's family. No permission, no murder.


You also sheepishly mention that God gave Job new children. Can anybody replace you family? Are children now properties like cars that can be replaced? What if it is your family that was taken, would a new family be enough to replace them?

Obijulius: Almost 8hrs later and I'm yet to get any sound response from our wanna-be atheists on the challenge I raised. Permit me, therefore, to characterize you as baby-atheists and if you ever mature, philosophical atheists. For now you may continue to toy with ur crude (and embarrassingly unreasonable) social and historical arguments.

I have painstakingly read through all your arguments for your supposed convictions, and I pity you for your logic. Is this what it takes to be an atheist? And I thought it was something to be proud of, a class thing, a status thing, probably even a glorious thing.

At best you should consider yourselves NON-RELIGIOUS. However, and if you want to funkify your new title u may go further to say you are a skeptic, nontheist, freethinker, or
nonbeliever.

Pride remains the key factor though. And you will never be able to explain
Why humans die-even though the cells are able to continue recreating themselves in old age,
Why space seems to have no bounds,
What caused the BIG BANG (ever heard of that?),
Why the UNIVERSE is the ONLY known PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE of the FIRST ORDER (google pls ...).

And if we can have just one sensible answer to any of these questions we may begin to take u guys seriously, otherwise get a life!!!

You expose yourself as an arrogant doofus with your comment.

An atheist is an atheist because of a disbelief in God. Atheists do not have to be philosopical or scientists before being atheists.

No one knows exactly what happens after death. However. christians would want us to believe that the bible (written by bushmen in the middle east) has the answer.



Tpo your other questions; THEY ARE FLIPING IRRELEVANT. The thread is about Job

davidylan: As is typical for most atheists... when boxed into a corner, they leave substance to chase shadows. The post you were responding to was quite clear - the fact that it is virtually impossible (if not downright crazy) to think that a system as complex as the human body is a product of random mutation and statistical chance. Do you agree or disagree and why (produce cogent facts pls).

The issue at stake here is NOT who the designer might be.

A human originally "evolves" from an egg and sperm in the mother's womb. Yet it is so hard to believe that we evolved from other life forms.

Lollololol.


See this joker. It is christians that have to start respecting atheists first. You guys always throw in the first blow;]

-Atheists are confused by the devil
-All atheists are fools (psalm 14;1)
-Atheists have no sense of immorality
-Atheists are going to burn in hell.



Please, stop accusing people of what you do constantly.

Furthermore, it is the christians that always fail to use logic and evidence when arguing. For example, in the discussion of the story of Job, the christians on the thread justify the murder of Job's family to test his faith. Would it not be logical to at least hide his family for some time rather than kill them?

chuckvyl: Well,i might be talking with a teeneger.i don't know you personally.
But to answer your question.Someone who saves you from sin and gives you eternal life and provides for you and delivers you from all temptations and died for you,and he heals your diseases.Slaves are not treated like that.
That's how princes are treated.Jesus came to serve not to be served.i am his servant because he showed me the way by firsy laying down his live.
Greater Love hath no man than this,that a man should lay down his life for his freinds.You are confused about Jesus,it's clear you don't know much about his mission.But you have not escaped his love yet.
One day you might be his servant too.Yes the God of Isreal is my God,it doesn't make me inferior.just like the modern world's educational system that has been modelled after Greek philosophy and the governments modelled after the Roman system does not make the rest of the world slaves of Rome and Greece.Even the Calenders January to december are Roman calenders.We must be horrible slaves of Rome ain't we?

Lol.....how did christianity come to Nigeria? Is it not through slaver and colonization? Your ancestors were pagans.

chuckvyl: He appeared to the Jews so that through the Jews salvation will come to everyone.To Isreal in isaiah 40:10 God says "Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me"
It is called Divine planning and you have no right to question God's decisions.
Again,your stance borders on arrogance.How many of your father's decisions can you question?
How many of your wives decisions can you question and you think you can question the decision of someone who created you?
It's called arrogance and maybe ignorance

You're brainwashed to worship the Jewish God. Before christianity came to nigeria, you great grandfathers were worshipping pagan gods until Europeans came and now you're a slave to a Jewish Jesus that says he came for the lost sheep of Isreal. Religion is slavery of the mind.


Kai

chuckvyl: Exactly my point.
It takes a great deal of faith to deny the existence of God.
The problem is not on God's existence.People hate God,in d bible,God appeared before the [b]Jews [/b]and they saw his glory and heard his voice but they still rebelled against him and hated him.
If God appears today,it won't change the stand of an atheist,it has nothing to do with empirical science,it's just pure hatred against God.
Unless God reveals himself to your spirit,you can't know him.There are many people in church today who don't know God,not much different from atheists.

Ignorance is a disease. Like a slave, you never question why God/Jesus who is supposed to be for everyone appeared to Jews instead of Asians or West Africans or better yet, everybody in the world at the same time.

Deep Sight: On science, I really don'y know what your qualifications are, but, at the risk of sounding as though I am appealing to authority, Davidylan is a scientific Phd holder.

Just so you know.

Did he get his phd from Ogbomosho or DelSU?

Every atheist on Nairaland knows that daviddyaln does not know the first thing about evolution. Maybe he is an ASStronaut!

davidylan: You are a perfect evidence for intelligent design. Unless of course you've been brainwashed into thinking you are merely a result of statistical chance and scientific fantasy.

Intelligently designed? Who designed the intelligent designer?


Where is proof of that?

Tundeiknow: Interesting how you declare someone you believe doesn't exist guilty by calling him a murderer

Hypothetical situation.


Wow, you religionists can get very foolish at times