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philip0906: Atheists are just a bunch on hyprocrites who mill around christians 2 get a lifeline since their belief is not hinged on any tangibles but rather anti(s). . .thats y they r so infatuated about a God they do not believe in.

Atheists do not believe in god. The reason why you see us here is because we have been so much insulted and oppressed by azzholes because of their non-existent god.
These religious azzholes keep telling us that their god will throw us into a lake of fire and that we are fools. This becomes annoying because this discrimination is everywhere; in schools, your fellow religionists tell their children not to play with atheists' children, in politics, christians say that atheists politcians are immoral and at work, atheists are not trusted. All this discrimination because of a non-existent god. Even families disown atheist members.


So when you see us on the internet railing against a non existent god and some of his deluded followers, remember that your fellow religionists oppressed us and pushed us to the internet where there is no oppression. The internet's anonymity gives atheists the freedom they need to express their views and meet each other, which would be difficult in real life.


So when, douchebags like youjust summarize that we are on nairaland because we are hypocrites or because we like talking about god, just realise that you are talking nonsense.

LagosShia: you are a big fool.if not,you'd not have presented what you presented instead of understanding what i earlier spoke on health risks and medical tests before marriage.you just want to run your mouth like the fool you have always being to keep replying instead of understanding what i am saying.the report you presented from wikipedia still shows there are exceptions and the percentages are low and the differences are not significant between related and un-related marriages.let me quote from what you presented.

Are you really that desperate? Do you think the quotes support you?

From the quotes we can summarize;

1) The genetic defects are higher in first cousin couples than normal couples at a rate of 1.7-2.8%. Do you realise that the percentages are of thousands of people given birth to? 1% increase could represent an increase of a 1000 people. 300 million people in the USA. A sample of 10,000 births would mean that 1% is 1000 births.


2) First cousin births have almost the same genetic defect rate as a woman giving birth at 41. The average age for first pregnancy is 25 in the USA.
http://www.babycenter.com/0_surprising-facts-about-birth-in-the-united-states_1372273.bc



Furthermore, why did you ignore the effects of first cousin inbreeding over time? Why did you ignore the quotes that destroyed your position on first cousin marriages? When first cousins marry consecutively over generations like in Pakistan?

In Pakistan, where there has been cousin marriage for generations and the current rate may exceed 50%, one study estimated infant mortality at 12.7 percent for married double first cousins, 7.9 percent for first cousins, 9.2 percent for first cousins once removed/double second cousins, 6.9 percent for second cousins, and 5.1 percent among nonconsanguineous progeny. Among double first cousin progeny, 41.2 percent of prereproductive deaths were associated with the expression of detrimental recessive genes, with equivalent values of 26.0, 14.9, and 8.1 percent for first cousins, first cousins once removed/double second cousins, and second cousins respectively.[184]

See the results of islam and first cousin marriage in Pakistan

[size=18pt]A BBC report discussed Pakistanis in Britain, 55% of whom marry a first cousin.[192] Given the high rate of such marriages, many children come from repeat generations of first-cousin marriages. The report states that these children are 13 times more likely than the general population to produce children with genetic disorders, and one in ten children of first-cousin marriages in Birmingham either dies in infancy or develops a serious disability
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MsDarkSkin: child you cannot argue with me when it comes to my intentions. Nor can you tell me what I meant. You are a class z clown and you prove it everytime you respond to me. Islam too came from judaism and therefore fall under the umbrella as muslims and christians alike believe in ishmael, isaac, abraham etc. so when I say biblical text, as many others with knowledge on world religions do, I am not talking about specifics...its a general concept. You were wrong and talking off the wall to save pathetic face.

Wtf does this being a naija site have to do with anything??

Waka jor!

Only 2 religions use a bible. Keep living in denial. lmao.

LagosShia: aunt is direct relative.but her daughter shares someone else's blood too.that is the limit set by Islam.it is a limit you cannot cross just like marrying a maximum of four while it is better you marry only one-you should marry one but can marry up to four .it doesn't mean every muslim must marry his cousin even though religious wise and personally there is nothing nothing nothing wrong.




im not sure whats wrong with nigerian atheists.im not sure if they like to lie or they are just confused and ignorant.another atheist once claimed electricity is an invention.

now you're saying science shows marrying cousins is in.cest.are you for real?



science can only show the health risks.in that case even when you marry someone not related to you who is not very healthy,you two may not be compatible parents for healthy offspring.so there are still exceptions.now that we have knowledge and ways to carry out medical tests,we can determine that for both relatives and non-relatives.it is always adviceable to do medical tests before marriage.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin_marriage#Biological_aspects



Ignorance is a disease....see the suffering as a result of substituting the science for Quran?

MsDarkSkin: Azzwipe I said "A BIBLICAL TEXT" this includes All or Any religious text...

lol You are such a clown. You are the model imb3cile.
You r3tardation fall my hand. You just quoted me lol and sonned yourself.

"Biblical text" refers to two religions that use a "bible"; Judaism and Christianity. Seeing as this is a Nigerian site, it's at least 95% certain that you are talking about christianity. Or are you a jew?


Denial is a beyatch

LagosShia: in this case your definition of in.cest is relative and subjective.it is not objective.

from the Islamic point,marriage with your uncle or anty's daughter is not in.cest.i know people who have done that.nothing wrong.

in.cest is when you sleep with your direct blood relative like your mother,sister,anty,grandmother,father's wife,niece e.t.c.

from the biblical point too,there is nothing prohibiting one from marrying his uncle or anty's daughter.that is not in.cest.

you have no standard here to preach to anyone.

If your aunt is your blood relative, what does that make her daughter?


Also, science shows that marrying first cousins is still incest and still carries the same danger of deformations in offsprings

Evil Brain: OP here.

All you guys claiming that this proves atheism is a religion are completely missing the point.

The thing is that while there is a lot of fraud, deceit and incitement against others going on in the churches, they are some things happening there as well.

Church (as well as mosques, temple etc) is great place for people to socialize and meet people of like minds. Members of a church form a community and tend to rally together and help each other during hard times. None of this has anything to do with religion of course, its just that humans are social animals and we tend to form herds.

Now atheists being a minority group don't usually get to physically gather and socialize with other atheists due to the oppression and discrimination by religious people. We tend to stay in the closet and therefore before the internet we hardly got to talk to other atheists, share our stories and give/get moral support.

The internet has become our church in the sense that it allows us to meet (anonymously or otherwise) and be a community. There is no bowing down, worshipping or praying going on here. Just people being helping to make each other's lives a little better.

Thank you!

fellis:

Really? You're going to play dumb?


Well, no worries.

tobechi20: Not even one member, at least ur younger one. Not gud ...try harder...

Huh? My family aint christian

fellis: I have my reasons. Don't worry about what they are.

Fellis, lol. You make me laugh.

tobechi20: When we embrace a new ideology difrent from that of our imediate environment, we feel lonely.Atheism constitute of les than 5% in the world

.I am wondering if these atheist are alone in their family.have any of u been able to convince ur family member from joining any religion? Have u delivered any of ur family from RELIGIOUS SLAVERY.Since charity begins at home, haw many have u logicaly convertd in ur family ? I have not seen a family of atheist only

1) Not easy to convert your family.

2) Luckily, I come from a skeptic christian family

fellis: If you like ignore the fact, if you like don't ignore it; I won't answer.

Lol.....you wont answer because, if you say "yes", you would look uncivilized but if you say "no", you wont be a real muslim as mandated by the Quran.


Na lie?

davidylan: that is wishful thinking dude. You're like the proverbial ostrich with his head in the sands of denial.

What are they? What are the sets of beliefs, liar? Daviddlyar

fellis: First of all the question is not the topic. Secondly, why would you even think of calling me that? You have no evidence that I am engaged in such an activity and it would be highly uncalled for for you to label me with those words.
Lastly, mind your language and try to keep your thread civil. The people on the thread were gracious enough to answer the question you asked, the least you can do is be grateful and stop trying to offend them.

Okay, Mrs voice of reason.


However, I can not ignore the fact that you're evading the question. Do you agree with first cousins getting married?

davidylan: huh? Educating you would be a waste of time.

Ode.....atheists do not have a set of beliefs!

davidylan: except your only "evidence" for maintaining your set of beliefs remains errr science? I shld just laugh at these crooks.

What nonsense are you on about?

MsDarkSkin: And I quote "you cannot read". Where did I specifically say "christians?" You are daft and an attention seeker. And,you have proven the very point I made to be true..

Congrats.

LMAO....see denial!!! Chai....you be real beyiatch. You said that you hate it when atheists derail just because someone quoted the bible. My response was what about when christians quote the bible and say that atheists are fools?

MsDarkSkin: It sure has.

I respect all beliefs or lack there of however I get very annoyed every time someone quotes a bibilical text or speak on God and some athiest a-hole decides to come up and accuse that person of being "delusional" and lay the famous "show me proof of God's existence" line.

I mean seriously, not even JWs are that annoying....
No offence lol

MsDarkSkin: Nope. just telling it like it is.

Nope....you ignored the annoying things that christians do.

MsDarkSkin: Obviously you cannot read. I am not a bible toter. Furthermore im not sure who you are calling "btch" but it must be that beast that pushed your wasteman azz out of her God forsaken hole....ode oshi.

E dey pain you? You mad? lolol


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tintingz: the Quran dosn't condemn science or nature nor we muslims condemn science. . .infact many scholars have used science to prove the miracle of the Quran even scienctists have proven the miracle of the Quran and they accept it.

Is this the lie that your imam tells you?


Inbreeding causes deformations in childbirth. Why does the Quran allow marriage of first cousins?

vedaxcool: Hmm. . . Enough of the self loathing! U are atleast better than a serial killer! Lol

Shameless pig.

vedaxcool: Lol essential, u simply proved what atheism reduces one to, if this is the best u could come up with, then u failed woefully in ur insults and innuendos, the thread is a massive failure adding little sense to any and the insults ain't just getting u anywhere , leaving us to wonder is this ur best shot? Coz u simply remind one of the condition of a woman who decides to disrobe her self in the belief that she would effectively be showing her husband unclad self , . . . We all know who gets seen unclad . . .

Lol....this thread is testament to you being a cousin fecker.

alhamdulillah that you are not related to me. I would have to hide my daughters from you. Shameless pig. Inbreeder

fellis: This question is irrelevant to the topic.

The question is the topic!

What? You are sidestepping so that I wont call you a cousin ##*&?

ijawkid: Good....

I am a christian.....

I support ur stance on d fact that obama aint a christian........

Neither are political leaders true christians......

They all follow a common trend....

How are you more christian than Obama? Name it.

tintingz: SMH say that to your monkey ancestors

Keep choosing the Quran over science.


You didnt choose the Quran when using your computer and the internet. Your OS is made by an atheist, your computer is assembled in atheistic China and this website mad by an atheist- all of whom used knowledge of science to build these things.


You reject the theory of evolution but accept germ theory propounded by the same biologists

tintingz: @broda olasesi may almighty Allah bless you for clearing tinz ese gan. . .don't mind that monkey believer logicboy, he's confused

You think I have time to argue with Olasesi's useless argument thatdes not directly address my points but throws in reductio ad absurdum?

davidylan: So an "evangelist" needs to promote a tangible book or website rather than a set of beliefs? Absolutely stunning stupidity.

Dumbazz, I did not mention set of beliefs because they do not apply to atheists. Atheists do not have a set of beliefs. Dummy.


The only thing you can attach are books and websites by famous atheists, which I have never promoted.



You Fail

davidylan: Darwin does not need to have been an atheist to remain the lightening rod for atheists. Secondly, Darwin indeed became an atheist close to the end of his life, he only stopped short of declaring it publicly for fear of the pain it would cause his family.

Many of you dunderheads need to read before bleating.

Who told you that Darwin is the lightening rod for all atheists? As a business major, I became an atheist because of things other than science.


Keep assuming rubbish.


Hey.....what about the transitional human fossils, Mr biologist? Do they exist?

fellis: Wow LagosShia, you and vedaxcool used to be rivals. It's really nice to see you sticking up for him.

Dont be deceived, its only because I'm an infidel, mushrik, kaffir. On real islamic matters, they are enemies.


Or are you supporting cousin marriage as well?

ijawkid: Hehehehehhe....

Logic boy is tryna runaway from the truth...

It'll hunt him until he concurs.....

He spends 12hrs if not 24 hrs talking about issues pertaining to God but he denies he aint an atheist evangelist....

What else is he??

The other time he put up a post suggesting that some persons must have being converted into atheism since nairaland christians aint appearing much on this forum.....

Logic boy seriously needs and wants converts and that will make him happy...

Truely atheists have made the internet there church.....

Ignorance in excess. you are damn ignorant and proud of it!

1) There are more christian websites than atheist ones
2) I have never ever once promoted an atheist book or website or organisation. You on the other hand have promote the bible. Who are you to call me an evangelist?



It is called projection. You realise the evil that has been done by many missionaries during their evangelism (Acceptt jesus for food to starving tribes, lying about christianity to get converts etc) and so you prop up atheism as a religion and claim that it is evangelistic so that you can condemn it.

davidylan: You're talking to a bunch of intellectually lazy folks who cannot comprehend the inherent hypocrisy in their own thoughts.

Wow, for someone that was caught lying about human transitional fossils while being a biologist, you have the nerve to call someone a hypocrite?

LagosShia: do not use your definitions and interpretations to label others.

lololol......dont like being called an inbreeder? Then stop supporting cousin s£x