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golpen: Alhamdulillah, aaaaal izzzz vweeel!!!


Ehn ehn, to your post. I must confess you have a very good try there, but I think you are yet to get somethings right. Let's do it this way, but let fore-tender my apologies in case I scratch you and keeping it in mind that you didn't bash the muslims

1. The rule of contamination:

Islam is a way of life that gives detailed procedures, rulings that encompasses every aspect of a man's life. This way can be one dimensional or of variety, but the simple logic is that +ve multiplied by -ve equals -ve. That is why an hadith indicates that all lawfuls are clear and the unlawfuls are also clear, but a thing line of demarcation lies in between I.e there are some cases of confusion as to if a particular is lawful or not; islam bluntly suggests we move away even from that.

According to your article, It remains the western idea for women to dress almost unclad, though some women don't, while some even condemn the act, but the idea still remains a negative and according to the rule of contamination, is taking over the sensible dressing.

2. Rate of damage;

One thing I like about your post is that you gave a clear cut of the two dimensions. Michelle on the right flank and Miley on the other. Both are top personalities who must have served as models to thousands of young ladies in their respective ways. Definitely, miley cyrus must have gained more fans. Why? Because, entertainment settles in the mind faster than the office, you'll agree with me. 90% of young ladies will choose cyrus' mode of dressing over michelle's and that is why you have ladies in bikinis on the streets of some popular cities without being condemned, despite the awareness of the trouble you highlighted. That is the height.

A twin height is the rate at which indecency is promoted even on the almighty internet. Young lads who are supposed to engage in judicial activities parade the web for the sexualized women of the west. That is the height.

3. Interest;

The decent dressing in the offices is not for the sake of modesty, but for the sake of profit and company interest. please don't think I'm exergerating, I have my proof.

You cannot wear your dinner suit to your bank unless you want to get queried. Office ethics encourage modesty because of these reasons; to avoid distraction of co-workers, which may affect work output, to appear serious or presentable to a customer or a set of citizens who may probably not buy immodesty (at least, modesty is a safer side), to encourage confidence and so on.

That is why the banks in naija don't care if a lady marketer exchanges beds in as much as she meets her targets. Here, immodesty is used to achieve the aim. If not for that interest, michelle might be strolling in lingeries. That is why s.ex is sold when it pays and so modesty.

Problems; due to this unfair part of the western idea, the fair parts have been destroyed, parents have been given an extra task to watch what the kids watch/wear/read etc, the society is faced with corruption and provocation and the decent individual is seen as an alien.

Freedom; freedom as portrayed in the west is not sincere. It is used as a means of blending situations the western way. You cannot tackle the problem your unfair part poses while you allow it to roam about in the name of freedom or even use that problem when it pays your bills.

I hope you find this meaningful sire.

eninn: Western talk of women’s liberalization is nothing but a disguised form of exploitation of her body, degradation of her soul and deprivation of her honour. Western society claims to have ‘uplifted’ women. On the contrary it has actually degraded them to the status of concubines, mistresses and society butterflies who are mere tools in the hands of pleasure seekers and sex marketeers, hidden behind the colourful screen of ‘art’ and ‘culture’.

maclatunji: Western culture is almost always exploitative of women. For one, Michelle Obama has no privacy even when she never campaigned for or was elected into public office. Let's be honest, she has no powers of the President, yet she is burdened with many parts of his work as President. Even her bedroom is not a sanctuary and is quite accessible to a number of outsiders all in the name of presidential staff and aides.

Or should we look at Hilary Clinton who had to swallow public humiliation when Monica Lewinsky saga came-up. She had to publicly come out to support a lying and cheating husband even when she probably would have preferred a divorce or at the very least some privacy.

tbaba1234: You woke up thinking about me?

So I should not quote because he does not understand Nigeria internal issues?

His views are quite intelligent and they offer avenues for discussion unlike this thread. I am not looking for your approval or anyone else to post his articles.

Thank you.

plaetton: [b]Stop all this rigmarole. You are an artful dodger.
[/b]The thread is asking why there is disease and death in a supposedly perfect creation of your imaginary god.
Evolution has a perfect explanation for disease.
But you dont believe in evolution, so what is your explanation?
Earlier, you mentioned something about the earth being damaged, right?
So stop dodging and elaborate for us how and when the earth is damaged.

ijawkid: Lol....

As usual u interprete d bible d way u wanna just to refute actual truths.....

Keep doing that until u agree.....

Deep Sight: Can you please SHAT AP, overall?

buzugee: we look different due to mutations and adaptations and incestry and curses. yes we are all from adam and eve.

CLIQBOY: best answer so far..loginboy talk nah

Pastor Kun: And could any evolutionists on this platform give us a plausible reason why the crododile has not evolved in over two hundred million years or the dragon fly in over 400 million years cause going by the evolution myth one might be forced to concluded they have reached the pinnacle of evolution thereby by making them ultimate species which they clearly are not.

Deep Sight: There can be no concept of imperfection without a concept of perfection, son!

Just as there is no concept of positive without negative, no concept of light without dark, no concept of up without down.

Do think about it: If there was no "up" could you say that anything is "down"?

As such, if there is no perfection, how can you say that anything is imperfect.

Please put on your philosophical cap on those noodles, this time, dear son.

Deep Sight: There can be no concept of imperfection without a concept of perfection, son!

Just as there is no concept of positive without negative, no concept of light without dark, no concept of up without down.

Do think about it: If there was no "up" could you say that anything is "down"?

As such, if there is no perfection, how can you say that anything is imperfect.

Please put on your philosophical cap on those noodles, this time, dear son.

ijawkid: Ok here I am with my scriptures.....

Like I said any Jew who read Gods word daily wuld knw that the earth was round and hanging on nothing....

Centuries b4 science could discover the earths make up God had inspired men to pen down truths about the earth......

Since mayb u don't have a bible I'll quote...

And mind u these scriptures are to also explain that the tree mentioned in daniel isn't just a literal tree....

Isaiah 40:22.....

##New International Version (©1984)
He sits enthroned above the circle of the
earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He
stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and
spreads them out like a tent to live in.

ijawkid: Ok here I am with my scriptures.....

Like I said any Jew who read Gods word daily wuld knw that the earth was round and hanging on nothing....

Centuries b4 science could discover the earths make up God had inspired men to pen down truths about the earth......

Since mayb u don't have a bible I'll quote...

And mind u these scriptures are to also explain that the tree mentioned in daniel isn't just a literal tree....

Isaiah 40:22.....

Deep Sight: If perfection does not exist, there would be no basis for complaining about imperfection - it would be the only reality. The very fact that we recognize imperfection and complain about it already evinces recognition of perfection.

And then you asked him how, as a part of creation, he would recognize a perfect creation, being a part of creation already. I was shocked that he did not pause at this one. For heaven's sake I hate the fact that we defecate. Its inconvenient and stinks. But somebody tell me its not perfect biological design suitable for living sustainably on earth as a mammal.

Lastly I am amused that people who subscribe wholeheartedly to evolution miss the glaring obvious relevance of disease to natural selection and evolution. That is JUST AMAZING.

ijawkid: Do u see oxygen??

D life force in a human is d spirit....

What's propels the human life is the air we breath......abi??

The greek word for spirit signifies wind,the air........

We are both right if u understand what I mean....

U just always wana be on the opposing side...:-)

ijawkid: Now I can understand why u became an atheist....u barely understand scriptures....

Now who told u the tree mentioned in daniel was a literal tree??

I wan nearly call u mumu now now.....lol....

So since u've been reading that verse with the thought that the tree mentioned there was a literal tree....sorry for u......

Let me get u my scriptures........

Ur so myopic as to bible reasoning.....

afam4eva: This is the best answer so far.

ijawkid: The early christians who read d hebrew scriptures knew d earth was round and hanging on nothing.....


Jews knew that......

For any Jew who read d scriptures knew that.....

The book of isaiah and Job confirms that.......

When I mean the early church I don't mean d catholics...I mean the apostles and 1st century christians....

If u had read ur bible well and not be a skeptic u wuld have known that d bible scientifically was and is accurate even b4 u and ur fore fathers were born.....

plaetton: Hey Logigbwoy,

Dont you get the message?
The guy is saying you have no right to insult him, and that by virtue of his faith, he has exclusive right to insult at will.
And he just upped the ante by threatening you.
I Wonder if that is a product of faith or just a personality disorder.
Stop wasting your energy on this back and forth thing. You are dealing with an immature boy with a pathological need to lash out. I am guessing that was probably an abused child or is someone of very very short physical stature.
His father must have screemed "fool,idiot, fool,idiot, fool" so much into his head that the words got permanently embedded into his consciouness.
Now, he cannot even get an e.rection without shouting "fool,idiot, fool, idiot".
He he he.
lmao

He calls me a conspiracy theory nut.
Yes, ofcourse I am.
Give a dog a bad name and hang it.
I guess he is a conspiracy squirrel.
As long as there such things as conspiracies, then there will always be conspiracy nuts like me.
Infact, conspiracy theories are the modern equivalents of Heretics.
So I gladly wear the name as a great badge of honour.

But wait, this same squirrel subscribes to the most laughable and ridiculous conspiracy theory ever sold, namely that:

That a mysterious sky daddy created the universe in 7 days some 6000 years ago,
That a talking snake misled adam and eve to sin for which all of creation is condemned to suffer.
That skydaddy impregnated a virgin(more like rape) to beget a son to sacrifice to himself to settle the infinite debt of mankind.
That the jews then CONSPIRED to kill this man(exactly what skydaddy wanted) who then resurrects after 3 daysand thereafter flies back to heaven , promising to comeback soon. But nothing changed, the world remained the same. Sin and wars even increased a million fold. So what exacatly did this so-called son sky daddy achieve? I will tell you. wars, more wars, hate, more hate, division, more division.
This same squirrel also subscribes to the theory that the devil, the anti-christ and all their invisible demons are causing havoc and recruiting souls for an inevitable galactic battle with the armies of skydaddy when skydaddy's son returns from heaven.

Now imagine someone who subscribes to all of the above crap having the guts to call another person a conspiracy nut.
Who is the nut here?
Stupidity on parade.

Saint paris: Most apologists usually blame authors (who brought untold stories of Islam on the discussion) by saying: (a) Lack of knowledge/ignorance, (b) Misinterpretation or mistranslation of scriptures or by (c) Some lame excuses, such as the
Prophet had to marry due to political reasons
and not for sex, or he was forced to marry, simply wanted to
rescue widows etc. There are sahih Hadiths available today to prove clearly that Prophet Muhammad married many women for his personal lusts and had sex daily with most of his wives who stayed with him.

(1) Sahih Bukhari Hadith: Katadha'ha said, Hazrat Anash Ibn Malek (ra) narrated, "Nabi Karim (pbuh) used to have sex with all his wives in the same night. At that time the Prophet had eleven wives".
Shafiyya was paragon beauty and was very young (in her teen) when she was forcibly married by Prophet Muhammad after killing her all relatives including her newly married husband. Shafiyya was first distributed (
booty from the battle of Khyber
)) to other Islamic soldiers, but when Prophet Muhammad heard about her paragon beauty then he took her for his wife.
Zainab Bint Jahsh (
Muhammad’s adopted son’s wife) was also very young and extremely beautiful for what Muhammad married her by sheer lust.
if some one wants to help any widow then he must marry her to render his help to her! What a simplistic logic and shameful argument.
That means,
if President Goodluck wants to help some widows—he should first marry them all
! Is it not a fantastic idea? To help all the widows of Nigeria—President Goodluck will need to build thousands of giant-sized Harems throughout the entire state of Abuja. I wonder, was it possible that there were only 7 or 8 widows ( whom Prophet Muhammad married) in the 7
th century Arabia? What a hilarious logic!

ijawkid: ..Lol..

I agree with u

ijawkid: Even if I show u u go gree??

Well I dnt believe in the triune formular of soul,spirit and body...

All I am saying is that d soul is the individual person(d soul that sinneth dies)..

While d spirit is d breath of life..

It seems u never read d book of genesis when u were a christian..lol

Pastor Kun: And since when did the evolution myth become a scientific fact? How much more an indisputable one Scientists who are much more intelligent than your self are sensible enough to term it a theory cos it remains yet to be proven yet you are arrogantly expressing your ignorance on a public forum. Smh

logicboy: 5) Forcing people to go to church; My [size=18pt]aunt[/size] used to go crazy when we did not go to church. We had to go to church even if we were sick. Furthermore, I also went to a christian university in Nigeria where students must go to church 4 times a week (Sunday,Monday, Wednesday and Thursday). Too much of anything is bad. Forcing someone to do something just makes the person hate the thing even more and more. It makes you wonder whether going to church is more important than God himself.

Enigma: Interestingly, I actually remember you comparing your own parents to Boko Haram for being Christians/religious/theists.

Enigma: ^^^ Your cup will become full one day, and then . . . .