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davidylan: Daft. Atheist products? Why are you using the white man's products too? Seriously virtually all the scientific breakthrough we have today has come from whites not black monkeys like you. You are just another in a long line of deluded folks who think dumping religious belief has elevated you to the level of your white gods.

lololololol......and the racism comes out. You call atheists fools, yet youuse their products. I dont call white people fools. Epic fail.


Furtermore, there are scientific breakthroughs by Arabs that happened before the enlightenment of Europe.


As for blacks, while we havent been much involved in the scientific breakthroughs, more and more blacks are becoming scientists. By the way, read on thomas edisons black assistant.

davidylan: You would have been correct if you had said no one was bothered to indulge your folly anymore.

Spin and deflect

okeyxyz: How do you know there where black atheist back then? is there a document you wanna refer to as evidence or are these figments of your imaginations? Here you are displaying the same characteristics you accuse religionists of by inventing logic instead of demonstrating logic. So in your "wisdom", if a man rejects one oracle or deity, that automatically makes him an atheist? In other words a christian is an atheist because he rejects the islamic god? please learn how to make sound arguments.

Unlike you, I know the history of my ancestors. You are looking for documents when your tradition was an oral tradition. Fecking slave.

davidylan: Oh dude you wish. You're a slave to your obsessive denigration of anything that sounds remotely "christian". It rules your every waking thought, manipulates you into making a fool of yourself on a daily basis. You slobber at the altar of pseudo-science, groveling in awe at the feet of "scientists" while worshiping at the temple of secular humanism... and you claim not to be a slave to no one? You're more confused than you think.

Epic Fail.......I bash the excesses of christianity. 'There exists some good in it but it is overshadowed by its evils.I also complain about islam


You keep failing

Sweetnecta: the religious house negro might actually be the op.
house negro plays to the gallery of the master, trying to satisfy him thinking he will be favored.
while he is doing this, he is made to squeal like a pig, always against others.

he is made to dress like a buffoon and while he does not aspire only to satisfy man, the master of the house.


But God is above Man the house negro worships.

it is master that the brain of the house negro.

come to think of it, atheist worship their intellect, while we the theists worship God Who is above all, including the master of the house negro.

You win first prize for the most 1diotic post ever written on NL

I dont know where to start. Atheists dont worship their intellect. Our brains are fallible.

lmao....Isiah must be TB Joshua's role model. Fake azz prophets

Ishilove: Shey I for put 'oldman' ni?

Ah, no. Young man is ok

davidylan: they may have existed then... but the only reason black atheists like you have the nerve to come here is because white folks have made being an atheist cool and socially acceptable. Its the reason 99% of you who bleat so loudly here would NEVER DARE show your true colors in your own family homes.

Yes i am a slave to Christ... just as much as you are a slave to pseudoscience and its high priests.

I am a slave to no one. I worship nobody. I dont agree with hitchens on politics nor Dawkins on his strategy. You on the other hand, are a slave to an invisble being, who you submit to, hook, line and sinker.


You keep assuming nonsense. My family know that I'm an atheist

davidylan: and this you know how?

So your father gave birth to a more evolved version of himself? Just plain daft and dishonest.

You're quite a fake biologist. So humans are not evolving? The fact that we are losing our wisdom teeth and getting smaller jaws is not getting through your thick skull?


Quack biologist. What next? Dinosaurs didnt exist? Or Adam and Eve were playing with Dinosaurs? Imbe.cile

davidylan: Then why set up the thread in the first place? Yawn.

You wasted all this energy just to tell us you think some verses in the bible are evil? Na wa o.

I just wanted to see whether some christians would lie to defend those verses.


Even you could not try to be an apologist on such.

davidylan: and those "products" developed out of thin air right? they werent built on principles developed by others centuries ago right? I suppose without the theory of gravity you could successfully build an aircraft no? Oh dear... wisdom is wasted on a fool.

Irrelevant.


Fact remains that you cant use atheists products and call them fools.


As for Gravity, Einstein and Newton. One wasnt a religious man.

Another scientific journal

Here is another science journal on transitional fossils

www.nairaland.com/attachments/689261_Australopithecus_pngd280b45f5af52a7edeb3701bcfb06b65

davidylan: If you calmed down long enough to read your own posts you might be able to spot the incoherence therein. But then that would be like expecting the sun to shine at 2am.

lol.....nice try to deviate....you lied about transitional fossils!

davidylan: If you calmed down long enough to read your own posts you might be able to spot the incoherence therein. But then that would be like expecting the sun to shine at 2am.

Dumbazz, the sun does shine at 2am in certain places. Fake scientist

davidylan: I didnt know that religious groups can now lay claim to inventions... most of which are based on fundamental principles of science developed by religious men and women hundreds of years ago. Yeah dude, i know you are quite the illiterate blowhard.

Religious groups?

You're not making any sense. Who mentioned "inventions". I said "products".


You keep arguing irrelevant nonsense. The fact remains that you can not use atheists products and call them fools.

Many founding scientists were atheists as well. Many nobel prize winning scientists are atheists.

davidylan: Yawn again... note that this fellow makes ZERO attempt to use actual science to defend his position. His "argument" consists of only 3 things...

1. Make a baseless claim

2. When challenged, produce some obscure speculative report from some backwater journal and shout "here... deny it".

3. When challenged again he cries and goes to produce the society from where the journal appeared.

The only defense he has is that since some "scientists" said it, then it must be true. So much for "logic".

Huh? Zero science? You made the unscientific claim that human transitional fossils did not exist. I showed you journals and a google searh that brought up numerous journals on transitional fossils.



1) You made the baseless claim (n transitional fossils)

2) When provided with a science journal, you ridicule it. When shown the source of the journal (Royal society) you ridicule it. The Royal Society is actaully one of the oldest if not the oldest scientific organisation in the world. You're ignorant about your own field of study.

3) did you also ignore the article from "Nature" on transitional fossils? Didnt you say that Nature is one of the best resources for scientists?




There are numerous journals on human transitional fossils. You have been exposwed as a fake biologist. You are such a liar and a fraud

davidylan: Again the senseless conflation of completely disparate entities. It is not atheism that made Japan what it is today abut the single-minded pursuit of intellectual excellence. The only similarity between you and 64% of Japanese is that you dont believe in God... that is where it all ends. For all your disbelief in God... what intellectually renowned achievements have you earned?

Do you think that i'm uneducated? lmao!

I did not conflate anything. The point remains that you can not call atheists fools when you use their products and when you wouldnt have the balls to call majority of a whole nation "fools" to their faces.

Just give up. You are not making sense on this thread.

davidylan: perhaps if you didnt derail threads there would be christians here debating this very theological issues like we used to do back then when this section wasnt infected with immature noise makers who think they are smart because they bleat that God doesnt exist.

Shut up. There is nothing to debate. Those verses are evil.

davidylan: You have the same problem. If white atheists didnt exist, you would not be an atheist either lets face it... you're only an atheist because some white people showed you its cool to disavow the very notion of God.

The only "evidence" you postulate as an alternative to God is SCIENCE... hmmm the very invention of the white man! Where is your own indigenous ideas on why you think God doesnt exist? Yeah just run off and copy the white man's physics textbook then blather about how others are house negroes for cuddling up to the white man's bible.

If only you knew how incoherent you sound.

Oh but, black atheists existed before Europeans came to west Africa. There were always people going against the oracle.


You wouldnt know this because you're a slave. A mental slave to christianity

tbaba1234: If only Nigerian Muslim can be better organised....

The first muslim in my village disappeared mysteriously. He was saying that our local snack (edible worms) was not halal and was an abomination.


Nobody missed him.

LagosShia:

marriage is not by force.you could force a woman to marry a man,but more often it is very difficult if not impossible for a man to marry a woman by force.

the reasons surrounding each marriage of the Prophet (sa) are legitimate and sensible.you cannot treat the issue from a general view of things.on this topic,you have to go specific and deal with the details of each marriage to understand the circumstances.each has been explained in details in one of the two threads i earlier presented.

Story. Quran says 4 wives, prophet had 12.

Why should I listen to such a man? Sorry but if Muhammad were alive today, I wouldnt give him my respect. This is the view of many non-muslims.

iv4fb: @logicboy, why do u always clench your fist at the word "slave"? I'm sorry but I hope in this dispensation, you're not someone's slave?

Well, many of my fellow nigerians are slaves to this religion

iv4fb: @delafruita, you too shall pass...

@logicboy, I hope you know that you're already fading? Your arguments are no longer coherent like when you first 'started'

When you argue with ignorant people for a long time, it rubs off.

ijawkid: Now have u sat down to ask urself who actually carried out the killing of the samarian women and children??

Go back and find out who did....

Was it God??

Or the assyrians??

Go do some research.......

Remember God just told d samarians what wuld befall them due to there disobedience.....

But who carried out the act??

Logic boy I'm asking you....

I dunno

Ishilove: My goodness, your mind is very filthy,youngman

Young man?

Are you some kind of milf?

ijawkid: So what's ur point as regards HOSEA 13:16?

You love killing little children and gutting pregnant women

jayriginal: I just saw this

Lol....the deep southern christians in yankee are very racist

LagosShia: Why did the Holy Prophet of Islam marry several wives?

Question:

What I understand is that a man is allowed to marry once, yet depending on the highly unlikely criteria laid down in Surah Nisa (relating to justice), he may marry more than once (if he can keep justice between them).

However the Prophet (p) had a total of 12 wives, out of which 9 were alive at the time of his death. What was the reason for this?


Answer:

In the old days, there was generally no government social benefits and services, and thus, women and children were financially looked after by men who were then the main bread-providers. This would become more essential when we consider the number of wars that were imposed on early Muslims, the result of which would be obviously many orphans and widows without any supporters.

In order to meet the needs of this vulnerable part of society, Islam permits and often encourages polygany.

Note Ayah 3 in Surat Nisa that allows polygany is preceded by the rights of orphans. In other words, the Almighty God first reminds the believers of the rights of orphans as the most vulnerable part of the society, and then deals with the second; i.e. widows. In short, the message of Ayahs 2 & 3 of Surat Nisa to the believing men is:

1. to encourage the community to bring orphans to their homes and look after them like their own children,

2. to bring orphans with their mums to their homes by marrying widows so that they too can enjoy a life with a father/husband.

3. at least marrying one woman (whether widow or not) to take their bear minimum social responsibilities.

The meaning of justice here also is to be fair in providing food, clothing and other maintenance.

Now, let’s look at the life of the holy Prophet of Islam (p). Up until 10 months after his migration to Madina, he had only one wife; Khadija. in fact, she dies in the year 9 of his mission while he was still in Makka, but he never married anyone until after 4 yrs later in Madina when he married Aesha.

Then from the 3rd yr A.H. and after the battle of Uhod which imposed many casualties on Muslims, his holiness married ام سلمۀ (Umm Salamah), whose husband was martyred in Uhod.

Then he married ام حبیبه (Umm Habeebah) whose husband عبیدالله (Ubaydallah) had died in Ethiopia.

Then Zainab whose husband was also martyred in Uhod.

Then Sooda whose husband had died after their migration to Madina.

Then Hafsa the daughter of Omar, who had married twice before and didn’t have much chance for any more marriages.

Then Safiya, whose husband was killed in the battle of Khaibar.

And the list continues which I can’t remember now.

Most of these women had children too, and the holy Prophet of Islam as the head of the community was looking after all of them compassionately. If there was any lust behind his polyganous practice, he would have naturally had some children from all of these women- given the lack of family control facilities in those days. Yet, the only one he had a child from- apart from Khadija – was ماریه (Mariha), who was a female slave gifted to the Prophet (P) by the then king of Egypt. She gave birth to a son called Ibrahim for the Prophet (p), who unfortunately died at the age of 2.

The world must really admire the lifestyle of the holy Prophet of Islam, who in spite of his heavy social duty as the head of the state, had the most ideal family life too. A man who at one time had 9 families to look after and yet never divorced any of them. This by itself is one of his miraculous characters.

It was due to this outstanding nobility and ability that the almighty God exceptionally allowed him to marry up to 9 women at one time.

Answered by: Sheikh Mansour Leghaei

http://www.askthesheikh.com/why-did-the-holy-prophet-of-islam-marry-several-wives/

There were prophets more noble and sincere than Muhammad in the Quran (eg Ayuub). Sorry but you fail.

Furthermore, Muhamad was not the only man in his tribe, other men could have married for allegiance. Other noble muslim men

davidylan: Its pointless. I'd just let you go on waffling about things you are ignorant about.

LMAO.....after claiming that a paper that was published by the Royal Society is not recognized? Epic Fail....


You are trying to run away! Davidylan debunked as usual by logicboy!

tintingz: lol. . . you didn't answer my questions
1. Are human beings apes in the begining? If yes, show me one ape that transform to human?
2. How come dinosarurs and giants creatures e.g mammoth exist and yet they claim their era is gone that they are now small creatures(funny). . .for the past centuries till date no sign of living giants creatures. . .they put together bones and claim they're dinosaurs just like Ice age movie fairy tales.
If you don't believe in Adam and Eve existence. . .and this so calld archaeologist can't provide one ape that turn to human then their research and discovery are all fairy tales, imaginations, delusions, creativity, st.upidity, trash

I can see that you believe that the Quran is more factual than modern science. Yet you are using a computer that is a result of modern science. Can the Quran legislate on the basics of the internet?


Let me answer your questions;

1) Human beings are from the same hominid family with apes. Human beings have the same common ancestors with monkeys. We evolved from the same hominids as apes

[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0c/Hominidae.PNG[/img]

Please, notice where "homo" and "gorilla" are on the diagram.

Speciation explains the branching of one species into different species. Furthermore, humans become or give birth to more evolved humans and monkeys become more evolved monkeys. Dont expect to see monkeys turning into humans- they just become more evolved monkeys as there has been a split from our common ancestor into humans and other hominids

2) Giant creatures exist- whales, elephants, bears etc all terrifying to humans. However, dinosaurs were large and did exist.

ijawkid: Lol....

That scripture is a problem because ur myopic as not to see its real application...

Now can u mention just 1 apostle who oppressed or supressed women....

Did u ever read were paul oppressed women??

Please show me if u got any.......

If u can't understand the principle of headship that fosters orderliness then there's nothing I can do to help u.......

That scripture means women aint suppose to take d lead were men are.......simple!!!!!!!!!!!!

Headship arrangement......

I culd remember quoting 1 corinthains 11:3 to show u what head ship means and how it contributes to peace and orderliness in any institution.......

U sound like one who will not be able to keep a job since u wuld always not respect headship......

I reminded u of Gods admonision to husbands to ""love there wives as there own body"" but u wuld never appreciate that,..u'll rather hang on scriptures which ofcus u have no clear understanding of just to mock God....

I could remember asking sometime ago who the head of ur family shuld be when u do have one........

You sound like a muslim defending slavery. "Muhammad sold slave but he was good because he freed some slaves". One good action does not reverse a bad one.
Paul supported sexism by saying that women should be silent in churches. Get over it. He is a sexist