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OLAADEGBU: For the mere fact that you listen to Jay-Z at all should be the very reason why believers in Christ should not. You are what you eat.

What goes into man doesnt corrupt him, rather, it is what comes out of him.



Matthew 15:11

New International Version (©1984)
What goes into a man's mouth does not make him 'unclean,' but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him 'unclean.'"





Olaadegbu Debunked!!! NEXT!!!1

Infact, here is a christian song by Jay-z and Mavado (On the Rock; Shield that guides me, be my guidance)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7wXgDeZeAg

OLAADEGBU: Don't you listen to the likes of Jay Z and Co? Common, confess.

And how does it make me an idol worshipper? Do I choose to live like Jay-z? Do I listen to all his songs?

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]i have an answer to your last sentence. first of all, it has been programmed into the heads of muslims that "MAN" (i mean it literally), is over and above all other creature, including women. So they believe that if a woman marries outside her religion, she will be converted as a result they will have one less minnion.

now if the man marries outside, he will convert the wife (that is obligatory), and they will have one more minnion.

basically to put things, short, they are so desperate to gain converts that they will stoop to any low. just like christian missionaries in SOuth and South East Asia, who are handing impoverished tribals food and money in return to gain converts. and what they did in the americas, by handing tirbals alcohol to make them addicted and then stop the supply temporarily, unless they agree to convert.

and have you heard of the new tactics used by muslims in India it is called "love jihad", where muslim boys lure young Hindu girls with cheap perfumes, etc., the get from relatives in the middle-east and then they r.ape or bribe them and then end-up connverting them. you can read articles about this online.[/quote]The love Jihad is an unproven allegation in India. However, there exists islamists in india who want islam to gain a huge control in india


However, I agree with your point that women are seen as inferior in islam.

OLAADEGBU: I'm not stopping you from listening to your idols, carry go.

Which idols? Why do you lie? Is that what Jesus taught you to do?

tbaba1234: Every muslim kid should go through a proper study of the Quran before they finish high school... We will be a different Ummah... You finish one ayah and all you want to do is go into sajdah.... Incredible

In business negotiations, a fraudulent company always talks-up and makes huge claims for weeks but never delivers the goods.

OLAADEGBU: Religious folks may still listen to them but those who have a living relationship with Christ may not.

Shut up. Abeg.


What should people listen to? Your tithe-scamming preachers or your slap-happy MOGs

musKeeto: Yeah.. different spice.. some are nice, others pretty horrible...

lol...I think the maggi one is quite good (I have lots of indian friends)


Anyways, Jay-z is loved in India
http://zeenews.india.com/entertainment/music/jay-z-thrilled-by-the-indian-response-to-his-song_49030.htm

A slave never question the master.


Religion is mental slavery

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]obviously culture. christianity came at 0 A.D. (2000 years ago)[/quote]You're too much. Good answer! lol.

musKeeto: i think the makers of indomie are also illuminati.. should i stop eating indomie...

I heard that they have indomie in india, just with a different taste

The fact that this topic has been ignored is testament to the mental slavery of many of my fellow Nigerians who are not ready to question their religion

There is nothing wrong in listening to Jsy-z.

Sweetnecta: I may look foolish, I am definitely not a fool, intoxicated enough to say, illogically, that There is no Originator for me!

I know I didn't come out of vaccum. Mum and Dad made sure of that knowledge. The same their parents did for them. And it went back to the first person or pair of persons; Husband and Wife.

Quran is so thorough that to say that it fails Islam or Islam/Quran/Arab failed in the religious sense is to dismiss Quranic Arabic as the standard of all that is Arab, meaning dismissing the arab people altogether. That will be silly and display of ignorance and pomposity.

A medical student can not defend Textbook material except when the Professor explains it to him/her. Should the ultimate Textbook not have ultimate explanation from the best person to explain it; the one who it is revealed to? Denying the need for explanation shows lack of critical thinking; I see that in your post regardless of your name. And i did not explain the hadith, use hadith as the material that explains Quran.

Those who explain hadith are scholars of hadith, which I a not even a student, yet!

Stop and think before you post a thing about Islam because you look very badly right now.

The very first human beings were not muslims, nor were they Jews.

There is no evidence for Allah.

Muhammad was an illiterate. Why should I believe that God would choose to narrate his words to an illiterate Arab while ignoring my ancestors in West Africa?

Hmmm?


The Quran is a false book that promotes bigotry just like the bible. Tell me why a muslim woman can not get married to who she wants? Why must it be a muslim?

Sweetnecta: Did I mentioned your name?

Logicbwoy, be careful yourself o.

I was relating what I have perceived Frosbel said in the past about some gay guy.

Hey man. Be what you wanna be. I am far away from you. Its a free world. Enjoy your freedom.

Everything in this world will come to an end.

Seems you have problems with gay people. What does gay have to do with anything on this thread

Sweetnecta: @logicbwoy: maybe i don't read "atheist" and or english.
i am unable to see the 2 of you since my vision does not extend beyond my location.

your answering the same post from me which ptolomeus just answered is a head scratcher for me.
maybe not for you since you know everything, including what i am doing now and after posting this response.

this is my first time noticing ptolomeus. as a matter of fact, i know frosbel called somebody his guy friend and that chap is an atheist, the reason i asked you if you are the totally straight with strange muslim girlfriend and total homosexual that frosbel talks about?

after all you and frosbel are in england. no?

come to think of it, a totally straight and at the same time totally homosexual is nearing trinity in weirdness.

but i hope you don't take offense?

Why are peddling te lie that I am gay? Are you a liar? Does Muhammad tell you to lie? Taquiyah?

Deep Sight: I don't see how the extracts logicboy cited support his contentions.

Wait? What?


My posts do not show that human transitional fossils exist? What are you trying to say? That scientists do not support human evolution?

Sweetnecta: Am scratching my head in confusion after reading the last post of Ptolomeus above ^^^, then the below from Logicbwoy in bold:
two people, one person? whats going on here?

this is weird. i thought the only confusion in town is the trintarian concept of God; 3 as 1? 2 user names on nairaland passing up as 1 person, or is the mentioning of homosexuality that is bringing people out to defend their honor?

Does your religion tell you to be disingenuous?


You can not tell the difference between me and Ptolomeus? Ptolomeus can not speak English, he uses a translator.

However, Ptolomeus always makes more sense than you!

hisblud: observable fact! ok thanks for that reply. Now it is also an observed fact that seeds(a living thing) die too?

Yes, seeds die.

[quote author=Brand_new]Lol! Does that mean a larger percentage of their client base a Muslims? [/quote] The poster didnt think of that!!!

fellis: You are right I don't.

lol.....i think all the flattery has gone to your head.....you really think people care if you like them or not? You just had to reaffirm that you dont like me anymore. How childish.

hisblud: @logicboy, death is inevitable and i asked you this question- yet u were moot. can/will you answer that kwetion?

All living thins die. This is an observable fact

Mee234: Man have been trying for years to prove christain a fruad yet it keep growing. If the gosple is hid( fruad) it is to them that are lost eho the god of the world( satan) has blind fold. The bible say '' a fool say in his heart there is no God''

Christianity is only growing in backwards countries. You say atheists are fools. 64% of Japanese do not believe in God. Without Japan, you wouldnt be using your toyota, sharp or sony products. Yet you are willing to call atheists fools.

[quote author=Area_boy]LOL!! I came late! but after reading thru, I need not add much. Logic and Dela have just sent david back to his place lol. That will keep him away again for a few days. Then he'll be back with the same arguement. "No transitional fossil". Again he gets debunked and disappears

Some weird form of amnesia. Strange guy [/quote]Lmao

fellis: I can see that you are on a mission to hurl as many false accusations as possible at me. First it was the post accusing me of supporting terrorism then this.

Continue with your accusations, I no get your power.

Fellis doesnt like me anymore

Sweetnecta: it will be interesting if me, a yoruba person declares "the epic fail of the idoma language", considering my blood is not idoma, regardless of my ability to speak and write it? what will idoma contemporary say, considering that his blood is idoma, a heritage passed down from forefathers? i remember a story told to me by a first generation american whose parent migrated from the caribbeans. he said that he was less american than american whose bloodline can be traced back to many generations. he used a simple situation to emphasize it, a situation as ordinary as saying this is a nice sky bro. the caribbean youth was looking at the sky, while the sky meant in hood stand was the new hair cut. is it possible that non makkan, non madinan, non arab, non muslim can understand the language of Quran so much so that he says arabic as a language fails, when Quran is the highest standard of arabic language?

Textbook need explanation by the professor by giving you examples on the material in the textbook. Hadith is the example while Quran is the master Textbook. This is hard for you to grasp, mr op?

Allah says accept what Muhammad [a] gives you and reject what he forbids you. Hadith and sunnah of Muhammad [sa] explains the Quran and qualify as what he gave us. And if I hear authentic sunnah and or hadith, I will keep quite because Allah says do not let your voice be raised higher than the voice of Muhammad [sa]. Today, Muhammad [sa] is not here. But his hadith and sunnah are and they represent him if they come from him.

the bold in this quote show how unwise the writer is. Is Quran not from God, the Creator of man, who He imposes His Law in the Quran upon? Does God change with time when this is is final legislation on man? Does man change and become something else? Does God not control the affairs of man giving man the ability of freewill to accept or reject? Does man have the ability to disobey or obey? The law of the school is pass your course work and move to higher grade. If you fail are you entitled to move up?

The laws of countries/societies are imperfect because humans are imperfect. God is Perfect and His law is perfect. Why should Perfection change? Is there any advantage or greater efficiency? If the man that is made properly was to develop 2 heads, will be be a better person, considering he will now have 2 brains, 2 mouth, 4 eyes? if the 6th finger is developed on a hand, will it make it more effective? The Perfection of the Law of God in Quran brings Justice that human mind can accept and the soul is happy to let it guide the heart.

I do not think I need to respond to the op any longer on this thread because its a waste of time. The op is a person who takes his intelligence as his Lord, worshiping it.

You only make yourself look foolish. You could not still defend the Quran without explaining the hadith. If the Quran is complete, then there is no need for the hadith. You keep making my point.t


As for the Epic fail of the Arabic language, I only meant it with regards to Islam/the Quran.

tunshe: Hahahahaha......But honestly,was there a Death threat?



Anyway,I withdraw the NEVER and replace it with NOT.

My main point is that,there are People who perpetuate evils under the guise of religion.Such should be isolated rather than Castigating believers of that Faith.Who are you to condemn or determine who is astray?Freedom of religion everywhere!!!

I never called you a terrorist. I have no problem with honest people, be it muslims, christians or atheists. Yes, there was a death threat.

tunshe: Hmmm,here we go again!

People like like you should NEVER be trusted.Where is your proof?

ehem.....above comment.

fellis: How did you come to the conclusion that I support terrorism? Seun got one email from one crazy person that was probably bluffing and decided to create a seperate section for Muslims. That doesn't mean Muslims are intolerant.

Was probably bluffing? See yourself defending a terrorist?



Tunshe.....your proof has been provided. Clearly not all muslims are terrorists but there are muslim who will turn a blind eye to the evils that some other muslim do.


I have no problem with honest muslims. I dont always argue with Fellis. I would even say that we are friends but she has this problem of watering down any evil that i done in the name of islam.

fellis: How many times do you need to be told that creating this section was Seun's decision before you finally understand?

So you now support terrorism? Was it his decision or did he make it out of fear of a death threat?

fellis: You've been on NL for over a year I wonder why you think you are new to the site. Anyway, your topic reminds me of that 40 laptops conspiracy theory they usually talk about on the politics section.
I don't think anyone here is getting paid to attack Islam, it is just that those here are passionate about their beliefs and when they get into arguments, they tend to get emotional and that leads to their using the type of language you see them using here.
Another thing is that those that constantly criticize the religion do not see what they are doing as inciting hatred or religious intolerance. They see it as exposing the truth and showing you the right path because they think you are astray and need to be shown the error of your ways.

Typical, you can not see the difference between criticism of religion and hate speech/intolerance towards a religion.


But I agree with your overall point that people are passionate about their (dis)beliefs

tunshe: But you could present a case for creation of a section for Christians rather than criticize this.

State the issue you want us to address and we could reason together.

The issue here is religious intolerance.

Why should there be separate religious sections? There was only one because of the resources needed for every religion. However, Nairaland muslims could not tolerate different views on their religion.


I am not a christian but christians on Nairaland live with a lot of criticism and show more tolerance than Nairaland muslims. This section will always be a paragon of intolerance