₦airaland Forum

Davvymavvy:
Yes you didn't call my name but you have to be reminded of the need to address some issues head on in a manner that is devoid of ethnic bias and unnecessary sentiment.

Let me ask you, what joy do Southerners derive from their arrogant display of sophistication when the acclaimed illiterates come to their land to kill and intimidate them?

A progressive way forward is to be discussed here and not the unnecessary tantrums we are throwing up and down.

Yes, you are entitled to your opinion as it forms part of your inalienable rights but your right should not stand logic on its head and pose threat to rational thinking.

Ethnic bias is real, and the sentiment you describe as unnecessary is the same sentiment that is making after1 behaving like a tout here.

You can not think of a progressive way forward when you have not addressed the issue. If Yorubas were largely against the Fulani killings against Ibos and publicly showed their support, those threads he is complaining of won't have started. The Yorubas are just as guilty as what they are accusing the Ibos of. You don't just turn a blind eye to that to chart a course forward.

Whatever is bad is bad, you don't flip the coin because it now affects Yorubas. So had Yorubas not been killed in Lagos, we wouldn't be thinking of a way forward with the unity of every southerner abi? Just listen to yourself.

I am a rational thinker. I just do not go around spouting wishful tales. I made my opinion and instead of it been acknowledged then the discussion moves on, a bigot came on here uninvited and attacked my region and that of SE because of phantom fears. Did I say you guys should not continue with your discussion?

I made my observation, one I strongly stand by. I cannot magically erase the knowledge of the silence of the SW towards the killings in SE, because of a supposed southern unity. Where is the Southern Governors Forum today? When you don't address the problem, it will arise again.

Good night.

PS: I do hope calling me a devil made you feel better.

-Lord

after1:
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Abeg stop disturbing my mention with your rubbish, I have no time for bigots and liars, your mates are facebook spewing taunting and mocking the MB people, go and join them.

The only bigot and liar here is you.

You cannot answer specific questions, you just make baseless claims.

Good night!

-Lord

after1:
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Stop quoting me with all this rubbish, you have been exposed already, trying to save face shows you are a wicked and bitter fellow. Continue to disgrace yourself.

Answer the questions guy. You are not a kid anymore. Three questions, and you are already hyperventilating.

Answer? Don't dodge questions.

-Lord

realjoker:
Abeg pity lordadam, u hav been brutalising him right from the inception of this thread. Sheat ur sword.

You think brutalizing is by insulting people. Does he think insults win arguments.

Two questions?

Can he swear that Yorubas on NL did not make posts to mock the igbos when Fulanis killed in SE?

Is he saying Fani Kayode speaks on behalf of the Yorubas?

He has not answered, just jumping from pillar to post.

-Lord

after1:
Since you want Yorubas to feel the heat, why are you splashing spit everywhere on this thread then? While you pray they feel the heat, your women are feeling more heat in Imo, your parents are been killed in Enugu and Ebonyi while Igalas are killing your people in Aguleri. Abeg, make the heat continue.

Guy, did I ask you to mention me. Abi I mention you. My own opinion nai you jor dey para for. Wetin dey haunt you?

Better go find solution, because it is not ordinary.

-Lord

after1:
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I have no time for liars and bigots, you can go play with sand with your mates cos you have no single shame.

You see how you cow from a simple question, yet you are bold enough to call me names.

Move on. Your bigotry does not affect me.

All I have said is that everyone should be on their own lane, and you are just here vibrating over nothing.

-Lord

after1:
Can you imagine that bigot trying to shift the goal post, he was caught red handed when he said no Yoruba condemn the killings of Ibos, Is Fani Kayode now an Ibo man? Some people can lie for Africa. Gosh!

If I say you have a dire comprehension problem, you would think that I am insulting you. Now show me where I said "NO YORUBA CONDEMN THE KILLINGS OF IBOS." I have always used the umbrella term yorubas, yoruba, or SW to refer to the ethnic group/region as a people not to one person. Show me where I specifically said no yoruba person?

That Fani Kayode or Fayose or a yoruba man staying in Anambra says the killing is unjust does not mean that the entire Yoruba conclave/region/people condemn the killing. Show me a group or person that speaks on behalf of the yorubas or SW condemning each of the killings and I will listen to you.

You just type without reasoning.

-Lord

after1:
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Are you okay? So Fani Kayode must be in APC before he can condemn the killings of innocent people. You should be stoned to death for being devilish. Jesus! Is Fani Kayode an Ibo man? You truly have no shame, its a waste of time responding to a wicked liar like you. Pathetic

I asked you a very simple question, you are just rambling. Does Fani Kayode speak on behalf of the Yorubas?

Answer, before you say Yorubas condemn the killings.

There are yoruba people even hausa peopl residing in the East that condemn the killings in the east, but that does not mean that the umbrella body of Yorubas condemn the killings. They have been quiet.

It's either you do not understand English or you have a very dire comprehension problem.

-Lord

after1:
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Just shut up and stop the lies. All your brain is filled with lies, your post is still there on this thread. You thought the OP is Yoruba, reason you starting throwing shades that the Yoruba should feel the heat, which i told you we aint asking for any help from bigots like you. While you are mocking the SW and the MB, the fulanis are killing your people in your region but you don't care.

Tribalist like you have no shame, you can continue to shift the goal post but you have been exposed already as a liar and shameless bigot. The evil wish you wish for the Yorubas wll surely backfire to you and your kinsmen in 200 folds.

You irritate me. How did you read my mind to know that I thought that the OP is Yoruba. I know the OP is Igbo right from my first reply.

Yoruba should feel the heat, I still maintain that.

The evil your kind have been wishing other region have already started visiting you guys.

-Lord

after1:
Get lost and go bury your large head in shame, you must be a little kid cos you lie alot. I hate liars.

Guy, you prove every time that you are a bigot. I asked you to swear about that Yorubas don't jubilate about the killings of Ibos on NL, and you have suddenly gone cold.

Say something about that.

-Lord

Davvymavvy:
LordAdams is the devil on this thread who because of his shortsightedness and myopic view of what unity represents throws caution into the wind to propagate falsehood and arrogantly distorting facts.

Oga, I no call your name. In fact, I don't see the reason for the name-calling.

Yourbas have been quiet about the killing in other regions, it is the turn of other regions to keep quiet. Very simple.

I am not blinded by all these fake unity you guys are preaching.

If you don't agree with me, fine. I no put gun on top your head.

But be more civil in your replies.

-Lord

after1:
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...It is that Sango that will strike you down soon, no one is stopping you oaf not to mock or taunt, you have been doing it daily for those in the MB so its no big deal. While you are mocking, the Fulanis are raping your mother and sisters in Imo, Enugu and Ebonyi while they continue to kill your men in Enugu. The joke is on you.

Why you no swear na? E hard you do?

Just say Yorubas are innocent of the charge that they jubilate when news of fulani killing people in the SE comes up? Then whatever you are saying will hold water. Till then, you are just rambling.

-Lord

after1:
You truly have no shame, read the trash you wrote again and slap yourself for being dumb and senseless. Thought you said no one ever sympathise with you people, you quickly change goal post again since you have been exposed as a dirty liar, bigot and shameless being. You should go bury your head in shame. Pathetic

Oga what party is Fani Kayode in?

Everyone including blind, dead, and dumb people know Fani Kayode does not speak for the whole West. So what is your point.

You will have a point when someone like Tinubu condemns the killings.

Saying Fani Kayode speaks for SW is like saying Amaechi speaks for the SS.

You need help!!!

-Lord

after1:
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Get away with your trash. You are only here to taunt and mock as usual which you and your kinsmen have been doing since 2days, was actually waiting for you to point out where the SW asked for your help. Tribal bigots that think everyone is dull like them, are you the one that killed 16 people in Lagos? Shameless liar, face the problem going on in your region and stop the hypocrisy. I dont know how starting a stylish bashing thread will stop the fulani from killing people in Enugu and Ebonyi. Rubbish

Oga shift. If you don't even know the number of people who are dead from this rampage, how can you reason objectively on this topic.

You are already acting as a soothsayer to say I am here to taunt and mock you guys. What do I gain from that?

I replied the OP with my reason on why no one should call on a united south to check any rampage, because there is nothing like a united south. SW, SS, and SE are on very different wavelengths.

So everyone should go to his own tent. From no where you jumped in like an overzealous tribalist to heat up the argument.

You are just unnecessarily agitated, reacting to phantom insinuations.

-Lord

after1:
According to that wicked liar and bigot posting trash that Yoruba kept silent, is Fani Kayode an Ibo man? This guy have always been making noise for any fulani killings and even condemn Buhari for any attack by the Fulani and that of innocent bia.fra protesters. Dont you mock Omenka here daily? No one is holding you guys not to taunt or mock people, but while you doing that the same Fulani are doing the needful in your region. Simple

The same Fani Kayode that you guys label a traitor, is the one you want to put a garland on his neck because what he said now serves your purpose. Kayode said those things because of his political party not because of his ethnic affiliation. If he was a bigot like you, he wouldn't have said such.

So, better shut it and stay on your bigot lane.

-Lord

after1:
Bro, I am not saying there excesses should not be checked, have you ever seen a Yoruba open bashing thread to mock Ibos when fulani strike there, saw them open more than 20 threads since 2days taunting and making fun of those people who house were burnt in the middle of the night in Lag. One even said he pray the Hausa kill many Yorubas and burn them all, meanwhile an Ibo was a victim as well.

The op might have open this thread in good faith but that m.oronic bigot posting trash about Yorubas begging them solve some problems, like the SW ask them for any help.

Swear that Yorubas on this forum did not make fun of the fulani killing in the SE in their posts on threads that were started to sympathize with the dead and relatives of the dead.

SWEAR now, if Sango will not strike your lying mouth.

You like to distort facts to suit your bigotry. So it is only the Igbo threads that you saw, not the Yoruba posts?

Who do first no dey pain, na who do second nai dey pain pass.

-Lord

EastanPower:
Well, someone has to take the lead here. It is this silly arrogance between Igbos and Yorubas that has given the demonic invaders from futa jalon the guts to harass us.

We need a united front, there is nothing wrong if we display initiative and take the lead after all the first president, first head of state of Nigeria were both Igbos-Azikiwe & Ironside.

Yes and 66 years where has it landed the Igbos?

If you want to seize the initiative, okay oo. Good luck.

But as I said in my first reply, I will not bring any suggestion.

-Lord

EastanPower:
What do you mean by "All this while?"

the fulanis have been carrying out attacks in the SW just as they have been doing in the SE or are you not in this country? You can consult google.

Besides, I am Igbo in case you think I am Yoruba.

Whether you are Igbo, Yoruba, Efik, Igala or whatever, it doesn't change my opinion.

Oga, every section of the country has been the heat. But SW is one of the least-hit areas. It hits more of the NC, SE and SS. For the last two mentioned areas especially the SE, there is some kind of glee in the Yoruba conclave whenever such happens. Igbos have learned to respond in kind by also greeting news of rampage in the SW with euphoria.

However, in it all, the SW remain mute. They have this "I don't care attitude" when it affects other regions especially SS and SE. So, I see no reason why other regions should now care when the rampage happens in their region.

Let everybody be on their own, and find the solution to their problems on their own.

-Lord

after1:
Where did the SW ask you or anyone to come together to stop the madness. You ignorant kids just talk anyhow, an Ibo man started a thread and you throwing shades at the SW that are trying to solve there own problems there own way. Ondo state just ban those miscreants in there states and other SW will surely do same. Bigots like you prefer to mock other stylishly instead of thinking of your own problems, 19 people were killed in Enugu last month and you are here insulting the SW. Make everybody bear hin papa name abeg.

Eastanpower, you can see whatever you are doing is dead on arrival.

According to after1, they will solve their "own problems their own way."

I wonder why you will be swallowing panadol for another man's headache. The Yorubas feel as though they are gods in the South, other ethnic groups are beneath them and should worship them. Leave them to their folly!!!

A Yoruba man did not open thread to stop the madness when 19 people were killed in Enugu last month, you as an Ibo man, you are forming good samaritan to open thread on how to stop the madness because 16 people were killed in Lagos. The people you think you are helping don't want the help. Stay on your own. As he said, "Make everybody bear hin papa name abeg."

-Lord

EastanPower:
Read the first paragraph of my initial write up and come back.

Your first paragraph does not change anything.

Yorubas are more guilty of pouting with their hands behinds their back when the rampage occurs in other regions. That Ibos mock Yorubas is because Yorubas do so to them.

Don't flip the switch now. All these while, it has been happening to Ibos and SSers, everyone kept quiet. Let everyone still keep quiet when it is happening to Yorubas. Very simple!

-Lord

EastanPower:
Bro, stop deceiving yourself, the fulanis have been carrying out attacks all over nigeria. They attack in the east and the west too so I don't understand where you are coming from. I am Igbo.

If you don't understand. Read it again until you understand.

If you still don't understand, do not quote me, because I do not have the time nor the incentive to explain it better to you.

Those in the West have been mum to the issue of Fulani rampage in other regions. It is the turn of other regions to be mum about the rampage in their region. I think that is fair. Give them a dose of their own medicine.

Let them appreciate what it feels like for one's relations to die in the hand of an untouchable group and everything just continues, no one seems concerned as if your relations were rams that were killed on Sallah.

For the Yorubas that died and those that were displaced, sorry oh, but this is Nigeria, your lives are worth zilch. If those in other regions can experience this and you guys expect us to still be patriots, then it is okay for it to happen in your region, and we expect you guys to still be patriots.

-Lord

The reason why I would not make a suggestion is very simple. I hate double-standardness.

Fulani people have been going on rampage for long in SE and SS, yet the SW were very comfortable. In fact, they celebrated and mocked the two regions, especially SE.

Now that the hen has come to roost in the region (Ogun and Lagos), they want everyone in the south to come together to stop the madness. What nonsense?

Are they trying to say the blood of a Yoruba man is more important than that of an Ibo man or an Urhobo man?
Or that the menace will only stop when they are affected?

We in the SS and SE have been enduring all the sh*it. They should learn to start enduring it too.

Even the MB that call themselves North Central want Southerners to speak out for them. Let them manage it.

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What goes around comes around.

-Lord

This is one of the few threads that make me return to Nairaland and not to burn my Nigerian passport.

-Lord

ifeanyiokolo:
At list respect the departures

Why do you think my reply meant that I do not respect the ex-Minister and his family?

In Nigeria, the only time to drive your point about an issue is when something awful happens. If Ese's case had not come in public, no one would have heard or talk about the endemic of under-aged girls been abducted by northerners and married off.

-Lord

atarapa:
What special abt dis guy dead sef. Do u Pple knw how many Nigerian dat has lost their life on that same road?

That is Nigeria for you. The death of some people, because of who they are or their surname or their ethnicity or their party affiliation is better than others. Later, they'll be screaming One Nigeria and patriotism. The value of a human life in Nigeria is less than that of a fowl.

We need to restructure this country.

-Lord

ajebuter:
Ngene, you can fit lie ohhhhhh!

Na the APC party lie syndrome. If it could infect a Pastor VP, who e no go fit affect?

@NgeneUkwenu, Make me join dash you one mention. There is nothing like bad publicity.

Welcome back jare!

-Lord

Stalwert:
Change needs to come to nairaland if we allow these curse to continue embedding hate then we have allowed evil prevail. I reported 2 threads yesterday 1 got shut the other made frontpage it is time for progressive on nairaland to champion a change in behavior and demand louder than ever hate has no place in this place . there is need to rally the progressives to tackle this problem directly.

You seem to think hate is a one-way street.

The perceived hate against your kind is a direct repercussion of the hate you have showered on others in the past.

The death of unarmed protesters in the SE was celebrated by your ilk. Why should the death of your people not be celebrated by others?

Why do you think some dead people are more important or dignified because of their ethnicity or religion?

If dead people in Aba were celebrated, dead people in Lagos should be celebrated. If the killings of Palestinians by Israel was condemned, why should the killings of Biafrans by Nigeria be applauded.

What I see is not only hypocrisy, that I can put up with; what I see is unfairness of the worse kind.

You claim to be progressive and all I see is backwardness in all you put up.

I am from the SS. I do not champion the Biafra cause. I have a Nigerian passport. However, I have no valid reason to oppose the calls for secession because they are valid. Even worse the reasons for the call for secession are not been addressed. For me, death of shiites in the North is evil. Death in the SE is evil.

But when the people who claim to be "sophisticated" (a la, south westerners) and the Middle-Belt people who should voice out against these injustices keep quiet, on what moral ground do you expect those who injustice have been meted upon to speak up? Answer?

300 people killed in Agatu is not more than the 700 killed in Zaria.

The 16 people killed in Lagos is not more than the 19 people killed in Enugu.

I will not support the killings, but I will not speak up against it. I will not involve myself in what doesn't concern my region because that is what I have observed in Nigeria.

The same troops we support to decimate BH in the NE, are the same troops that stepped on the mothers from my region last month. May those that stepped on those innocent, poor women die a horrible death!

The Nigerian project is a failed one. Anyone that wants to get out should do so. Anyone that expects others to lick their ass should have a rethink. The time of sycophancy is over.

Progressives ko, regressives ni!

-Lord

omenka:
Seun can you see the comments here. Can you see what they are turning your forum into?? How long would it take for you to take a strong position on this??

Life isn't all about traffic and benjamins you know.

I'm deeply appalled by your way of reasoning. It is an epic show of shame.

Do you think the URL is yorubaland.com? It is nairaland.com.

Go and own your forum, if you want to police it like a general. You behave like an over-aged SISSY [not an insult, just an objective observation].

All of your replies of late lack depth and reason. Your bans should have made you think hard about your political position, but you seem to have lost the capability to think for yourself. Even Hitler and Satan have supporters, so I am not concerned that you will support PMB.

It's your choice. However, you should try to be reasonable in your replies. As a veteran you should not be seen to display chronic signs of zombeism and idiocy.

Just my 2 cent.

-Lord

tsephanyah:
I want answers, now that I knew what wailer is,,thanks to Google,, so anyone not supporting Apc or buhari is wailer, and most igbo are wailer,,,, lame idea I ever heard,,, Apc is the real wailer,, if that should be the case,, they wail too much,,, to the extent that the world think Nigeria will blow up,, British and America somehow instilled fear in goodluck mind to secure there interest,, and he gave up, handed over the government to the league of greatest wailers ever created,, now they have the government and they cannot handle it always confused,,, and there angry fellow youth who voted them to government instead of wailing to there leaders who con them, there are ashamed of it and diverting there shamefulness and mistakes to PDP supporters, to the extent if u disagree with Apc u are Ippod, iPad or militant, now that I'm not militant and only miles from buhari home town to ours, What am I?

Sent you a mail. Kindly respond.

-Lord

GloryIsaac:
... its painful, we were the Ceasar, they were the Brutus....Even you, brutus?

And we that are still standing like Mark Antony and Augustus will drive a sword through the heart of the Brutus and Cassius by our silence in their time of suffering.

-Lord

Reference:
You are partisan, sentimental and very, very wrong. Who is a patriot please. A person who seeks the good of his country, irrespective of his personal values. You don't want a revolution because you don't want to bear the brunt, so you want the pre-existing system, the status quo maintained which you know is fatally flawed?

So in a nutshell you are satisfied to live a life without electricity and you will age and go to the grave with that satisfaction that that is the best your country could give you?

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Oga, stop all this grammar. If you want and believe in a revolution, start it. Do not antagonize a person that does not see the viability of revolution.

Not everybody acts like an impulsive animal. Some of us only take calculated risks.

Look at the Biafran agitation. Kanu is in prison, MASSOB and IPOB are under different leadership. Ohaeneze Ndigbo are frolicking like aimless dimwits. Politicians are being saboteurs. The SE people are on different sides not having a common ground.

That is just one ethnic group. Now you are talking of... Make I no jor waste my time. If you don't get the point, start your revolution. Very simle, I and am sure the lots of us who do not see the sensibility in it will not stand in your way.

-Lord

obailala:
Firstly, if the coal plants being in the SE is the problem of the policy makers as you allege, then it could have been built in Benue or Kogi. Secondly, if it being in the SE is the case as you allege, then all the gas powered IPP's built in the SE wouldn't have been executed. We need to really wake up and expunge this paranoid mentality from our heads if we must make any reasonable progress. The reason why no coal plant has been built in the SE is the same reason why the Mambilla hydro dam, Ajaokuta & Delta steel plants and many other worthwhile projects have not been executed; it is the general Nigerian problem of corruption and visionless/focusless leadership, and not a SE marginalisation issue like most of us have been brought up to believe.

Regarding the planned coal plant in Enugu, I think that is wholly an idea of Barth Nnaji's Geometric Power Ltd. I have no idea of the progress of that project nor whether it was ever started.

Oga, Mambilla Hydro Dam, Ajaokuta & Delta Steel plants are a different kettle of fish. They are projects that have been executed, albeit woefully, and had mostly government involvement. The coal plants are different. They have not been executed, neither are they mostly governement involvement (most of it is in private hands).

That is why all of the coal plants envisioned to date will be based in the South East.

Think of it this way, if Dangote refinery was to be built by the government, or if the government was to have majority stake, it would have been situated in the Niger Delta or in the North or even if it is the west, it will be in Ondo that produces oil. But because it is majorly driven by private interest, it is located in Lagos. This is the marginalization and politicoethnic sensationalism we are talking about in Nigeria. You are old enough to know this.

Now, we all know how the private refinery issue was dragged on for years since OBJ till we started making giant strides under GEJ and thanks to the focused input from energetic private investors like Dangote. That is the same thing with the coal issue.

I refuse to believe that coal electricity has been used around the world as far back as the 19th century, yet from 1960 until 2014, we had made no visible steps to use it in Nigeria despite having one of the largest coal deposits in Africa. It is too convenient to say that is just because of visionless leadership, when the visionless leaders were already talking about nuclear plants that had only been introduced in relatively recent time. It is marginalization straight up. OBJ invested $15b in power and forgot coal plants. All the military governors and stupid civilian administrators in between started white elephant projects and did not start one white elephant coal electricity plant project in the SE.

Aside Geometric Project, One Nation Energy Platform has also indicated interested in setting up a coal electricity production plant. Since they are majorly private-backed investments, when they will start laying blocks is still uncertain.

About IPPs in the SE. IPPs is allowed in all regions, so it would be very nerving if SE is barred from setting up IPP when other regions are allowed to do so.

-Lord