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PoliteActivist:
Ridiculous. Someone CLEARLY told you what he meant and you are still arguing! It is like someone says "let X be 2, 3+X=5" and your reply is "X is not 2"!!😆

Besides that, it is not just by reaching a certain age. Merely surving will not guarantee reproduction. You have to be "rich" enough to get a fertile mate (competition), and vibrantly healthy enough and fertile enough yourself to reproduce.

But not only that, due to competition, over generations the sickly will disappear though they live more than long enough to reproduce

LoLz. You have a very flawed conception of what natural selection is. It's not magic. The sickly will still survive as along as they have a chance to reproduce which is what we see happening in nature. Your idea that only the strong and health survive is a fiction either of your own making or flat out misconception from a poor understanding. Educate yourself and stop making arguments for something you clearly lack understanding of.

PoliteActivist:
Which is exactly the point - natural selection theory often doesn't pan out in real life.
But in this case you're actually wrong - even if diabetics don't reproduce, people pass on the gene without being diabetic themselves

It does you just don't understand what it entails. It is not selecting for anything. Environmental and other pressures determine which organisms survive and how they change. You think it's some magic force determining that the organisms with the best traits become the only Survivors which is flat out wrong.

PoliteActivist:
You obviously haven't done your research (as usual )

In men it can cause problems getting and maintaining an election, and also lower levels of testosterone.
In women it can result in irregular or absent menstrual cycles, and also increase the risk of miscarriage and still birth.

LoLz. Now youswitched from longevity to reproductive problems. What you fail to consider is as long as a significant portion of diabetic patients still SUCCESSFULLY reproduce then the susceptibility continues to propagate. Besides the incidence of diabetes is INCREASING not decreasing.

Aemmyjah:
Usual response when you foolishly say something that leads you to a tight corner
Not surprised

LoLz. You that refuses to answer simple questions are VERY insincere, but you want me to continue to answer your questions endlessly. Answer my question and I'll answer yours. Which tight corner I already answered the question, you are just being mischievous. LMAO.

Aemmyjah:
I said so cos you ask how homosexuality can defile society
Kindly explain the highlighted pls. What change do you mean?

If you have a relative and she's coming to stay with you for a holiday and she can only share room with your daughter since there's no other space and your daughter is say 13-15 years. Will you allow her knowing fully well that that one is an homosexual. If you like, talk truth. Atheists don't believe in truth

LoLz! Why are you asking me if don't expect me to be sincere?

Meanwhile I asked a single you've yet to answer but you have asked me multiple questions which i answered and yet you have the gall to question my sincerity. LoLz. You are blind to your own insincerity.

Aemmyjah:
I don't view anyone differently
I only asked you if you'll welcome it in your family
Simple
What if your wife tells you she's thinks she's a lesbian or someone comes to stay with your family and he says he's homosexual too?

I don't know what you mean by welcome. Do you mean whether I willjoin them or what?

If my wife tells me she thinks she's lesbian, it means things have to change obviously because I'd want her sexual needs to be met same as me.

Some other homosexual family member or friend coming to my house to stay wouldn't change anything.

Aemmyjah:
It will help me know how to answer you better
Or you're also neutral on such matter?

What do you mean by neutral? Homosexuals are human beings so why I view them differently?

Aemmyjah:
You'll embrace it in your family?

How does this answer my question?

BTW for clarity if any of my family members is homosexual, I will love them the same way I love any other family member.

elated177:
MrBrownJay1, I am preaching the message of my Father in heaven or did you hear me mention anyone's name?

However, the truth of the matter is that homosexuality is not good for any society. It defiles the environment.

Demonstrate how homosexuality is not good for any society and how it defiles the environment.

Dtruthspeaker:
You know i cannot tell you because t is supposed to shock you to death.

LMAO! Good joke.

Dtruthspeaker:
You want to know so that you would plan your repentance? E no go work

LoLz! Just say I have no clue, it's easier for you.

Aemmyjah:
How life came by natural processes since you don't accept they came by chance or chaos

I don't know how life came about. I suspect that given the timelines and conditions that we have evidence for, it took a long drawn out process.

PoliteActivist:
What is meant by "longevity" in this instant is: "living long enough and healthy enough to reproduce"

Your definition is nothing but equivocation. Nevertheless, explain how diabetes prevents someone from living long enough to reproduce.

FRANCISTOWN:
Ha! I FRANCISTOWN?
My existence dey significant die.

BTW lemme ask you this, what can you get by your faith that I can't get because I don't have faith.

Dtruthspeaker:
Muslims kill and love killing as proven by the latest attack https://www.nairaland.com/8017854/greece-muslim-migrant-stabs-greek#128734132

But nonetheless, shebi Judgment Day is not far, we all shall soon see that you were a fool to have fallen for one of Satan's many attack of God.

How soon? Another 2000 years soon? LoLz.

Aemmyjah:
Intelligence
Chaos

Explain yours since you accept neither

Explain what exactly? How natural processes come about?

PoliteActivist:
They need to survive old enough and healthy enough to reproduce (that's what is meant by longevity) MORE THAN their healthy-eating counterparts. Over millions of years you definitely WON'T have what you have today - almost everyone loving what's bad for them!

Diabetes and other diseases exist because there are mutations and carriers who pass on the gene without experiencing the disease.

Of course you contradicted yourself - "Helpful traits" are traits that support survival (longevity) and reproduction. That's what natural selection selects for

Explain why the longest lived animals are not the most populous.

Aemmyjah:
Regarding life, people say it is a product of intelligence or chaos (blind chance).
You did not accept either but you said Natural process. Pls make sense out of it

Make sense of the question you asked me. What is directed or undirected process?

PoliteActivist:
You are contradicting yourself. "Helpful traits" are traits that support survival (longevity) and reproduction. If you eat lots of sugar, fat, salt, and don't exercise, and I eat vegetables, oils, and water, over generations there'd be much more of my offsprings than yours because more and more yours won't live long enough to reproduce

The organism only needs to survive long enough to reproduce. This is why diabetes will still exist, it doesn't stop reproduction. There is no contradiction.

If what you are trying to insinuate were true then the longest lived animals would be the most populous on the planet but fact is its the opposite we find.

Aemmyjah:
Oga
Explain that natural process since you don't believe it came by intelligence or chaos

Why is it that when I ask you simple questions you start coping an attitude but you expect me to answer your questions without hesitation.

PoliteActivist:
I still have a lot of replies before I get to you, but since you seem to be in a Hurry, here goes:

Broccoli is just a metaphor. Point is, according to natural selection, the world ought be be full of people who ENJOY a diet and exercise lifestyle that support good health, survival, and longevity. Instead for vast majority of people going to the gym is a chore, and what they enjoy is sugary, fatty, salty foods and sugary drinks, NOT vegetables and plain water!

Wrong. Natural selection doesn't dictate that only helpful traits and or habits get passed on. Natural selection only puts pressure on organisms to survive and breed. Not eating vegetables and not exercising do not stop survival or breeding. Therefore what predisposition to health or unhealthy habits get passed on are not affected by natural selection if those habits do not stop survival or breeding.

Aemmyjah:
Directed or undirected process?

What do these mean in the context of our discussion?

Aemmyjah:
Tell us your own viewpoint na

I am a product of the natural processes of the universe.

PoliteActivist:
Remember I'm backed up due to all the bans. I'm still on the hope vs faith. See below

https://youtube.com/shorts/KUopdDZkMJk?si=0_3U4t8CXnl9rSvI

Like I said you are not serious.

Aemmyjah:
Ok
Now tell it to NL

Your life is a product of chaos or intelligent design?
Choose one

Neither.

PoliteActivist:
Well said and well written, good example too.
Sooo you accept that:
1) Humans were DESIGNED to hate whats good for their health and longevity. If not, where did that come from?
2) Where did lions liking raw meat, and goats liking grass come from?
3) LordReed and JessicaRabbit, do you agree with him that those are habits, not heritable traits?

I asked you a question, instead of answering you are asking me another question. You aren't serious.

Aemmyjah:
LOL
Person wey no gree say e brain na product of chaos but e fit accept na im life no be by intelligent design
Just de play

Good to see you have at least stopped lying for now. LoLz.

Aemmyjah:
You seem to be breaking away from your religion to a new denomination simply cos you don't like the idea that you're hopeless though you don't accept you're a product of chaos
😂

You just keep lying and lying. LoLz.

Aemmyjah:
Go and join your fellow atheism movement
It's like you saying I believe in God's existence. Well, personally, I am convinced of that even if I may not admit it

By-product of chaos
Bwahahahahahahaha

Why do you like lying? LoLz

Aemmyjah:
You don't accept that there's an intelligent design? What do atheists say?
Only thing that makes sense to their level of reasoning is that everything came by chaos or chance

So quote where I said so or admit you are lying about me once again. LoLz.

Aemmyjah:
Ok
😂

So are you going to quote such a place or are you going to admit your lie? LoLz.

Aemmyjah:
You believe your life came by intelligent design?

Nope.