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paxonel:
so, what reference do you use to validate that God do not exist since you say "there is no book of atheism" ?
because, obviously blind trust of believers or atheists have nothing to do with me or you respectively, except we want to keep generalizing thereby not letting the truth stand on it own objectively.

As for me this my reference :

Mark 4:31 It is like a grain of mustard seed, which, when it is sown in the earth, is less than all the seeds that be in the earth:
Mark 4:32 But when it is sown, it groweth up, and becometh greater than all herbs, and shooteth out great branches; so that the fowls of the air may lodge under the shadow of it.

Jesus made this statement about 2000 years ago before he was crucified.
2000 years have pass now, Google it.
Which herb(religion) is currently the greatest in the world?
You will discover that it is Christianity.

How did Jesus knew that this will happen?
Because he is God.

No mere human can ever, ever, ever, ever...

..make that kind of prediction.

MaxInDHouse:
This is a lie and deceit!
Books are recorded thoughts believed to be wise sayings meant to control the thoughts and actions of people who later read it!
So if you often meditate on the utterances of people like Charles Darwin and co you're in no way different from religionists. The slight difference is that atheism lied to you that you're free as in freethinkers while the concept subtly infuse false ideas like evolution in your brains then since it's author (Satan) only wants you to be lawless he stylishly makes you feel you're better than others who are meditating on righteousness.

But the truth is whatever makes you wake up and think of correcting the thoughts of your fellowman equally makes you a believer in some forms of tenets even though you can't point out specifically what you want your neighbour to believe!

Image123:
Suffering for righteousness sake. Jesus Christ was crucified like any thief but not same reason, Paul was in prison with many criminals but not same reason.

Kobojunkie:
According to the story, He constituted the Nation and gave them a Constitution to boot. And according to the passage you posted, their standing out was hinged upon their obedience of the Law given them, so?

Kingsnairaland:
This statement....

If you mix all the colors of the rainbow, what color do you get?
If you mix all the-color..result is
Light is Additive, meaning when you mix all colors of the visible spectrum you get
white light..

Is from a scientific research article now I merely combined it with Adam and eve since they were white it was just a comparison to show you white men can born black then you disputed it then I made research and found out pigments of white people when defective can carry brown color in it

Yet you want us to go back to the past comparison as if knowledge is not always moving forward at least accept the new theory without finding past theory as an excuse to hold on too.

Well from this....
It proven all skin color has...
the brown-colored pigment in everyone’s skin.

What is brown skin pigment called?

Answer...
Your skin gets its color from a pigment called melanin. Special cells in the skin make melanin. When these cells become damaged or unhealthy, it affects melanin production.......

It shows Bible word stands sure

Now to the black race thing you said

Let not confuse ourselves Egypt were the first African nations in history and Egypt are white brown people so the Bible still stands

I have proved the human race differences came from one man which you claim to be a myth.

Kobojunkie:
You posted a passage which clearly states that there standing out among other nations depends on their obedience of the laws commanded of them so I am rightly asking you if the people ever did get around to joining just that.

Kobojunkie:
So did the people ever get around to carefully obeying the Laws as commanded so the other nations could see them as a wise and understanding people ?

Kobojunkie:
Why do you seek a difference between them in these things though?

paxonel:
and you think there are no blind trust in atheism also?
I mean, are there no atheists that don't misunderstand atheism too?

Kobojunkie:
Considering what is written, it seems that way.

Would you have preferred if they has written that there God had instead given them a Constitution that limited them in ways others nations weren't?

paxonel:
If there is any past record that shows that his predictions were consistently true, why then should i doubt.

I will simply say Baba carry on jo

KnownUnknown:
My apologies. Their god is white afterall. Talking about their white god, I would love for a very pigmented Pope(Papa) of the Catholic Church to be selected by the cardinals (a.k.a. Chosen by God”) to see the religious version of the Obama Presidency. Some christian whites haven’t recovered from that “monumental event” of being led by a man whose skin did not lack pigmentation. I swear, a Black pope would be the end of Catholicism/Christendom in many places. imagine having the same religious beliefs as these white racist cunts!!

Kingsnairaland:
Reed you did not read my write up if you did you won't argue with science

.... For this discussion, let’s assign the letters “A” and “B” to the genes that code for large amounts of melanin—the brown-colored pigment in everyone’s skin. We’ll also use the letters “a” and “b” to designate the genes for small amounts of melanin.....

It proven all skin color has...
the brown-colored pigment in everyone’s skin.

What is brown skin pigment called?

Answer...
Your skin gets its color from a pigment called melanin. Special cells in the skin make melanin. When these cells become damaged or unhealthy, it affects melanin production.


So as time goes by Adam and eve descendant began to expirence those things listed above and the brown skin pigment began to emerge

So with the above examples Science has proven how brown skin came about.

If you won't believe science is it God that you will believe.

Kingsnairaland:
Scientists have already done the research

And they found if you mix every color you get white which shows Adam and eve were white.............

When all three colors overlap, they blend to make white.

See what happens when you mix different colors.
Play with Color and Light › ..


If you mix all the colors of the rainbow, what color do you get?
If you mix all the-color..result is
Light is Additive, meaning when you mix all colors of the visible spectrum you get
white light.... Which is the color of Adam and eve....


Two white people have capacity to give birth to different race
.

Kobojunkie:
According to the book, God constituted the Nation of Israel, and gave them Law .i.e. a Constitution which bestowed on them the right to act as any other Nation would.

It is written nowhere in History that genocides and land annexation were committed only by only the Nation Israel at even that point in time or any other.

paxonel:
simple!

Consistency of prophesies written in the bible.

It becomes mysterious when someone predicts a thing and that thing comes to pass.
Where did he get the power to explore the future from?

The same person now says when i die he will resurrect me back to life. that is an offer, free offer. On the condition that i believe that's all.

Now, i look at it.
Believing does not take anything from me, i have nothing to loose.
I'm not in a position to argue that you are lying sir, because I'm not spirit, i don't have supernatural powers.(remember the identity principle: if you do not know the identity of anything you cannot say anything categorically about it)

But seeing that his prophecies were consistent, obviously he has supernatural powers that is capable of fulfilling his promise.

I look at life
Life is beautiful and worth living again and again.
If mere believing will ensure that i live again after i die according to the supernatural power i have seen in him, then i will be most stupid to continue doubting since i have nothing to loose by believing.

So I believe

What have i done?
I have just applied simple wisdom

Kobojunkie:

I believe below is my exact statement.

LordReed:
Nations have the right to perform genocide? Nations have the right to annex land that is being held by other Nations?

Kobojunkie:
You mean even over the last 2000 years ago, your UN was there to ensure nations didn't carry out genocides or annex land being held by other Nations?

LordReed:
So because no one stopped them it was a right?

Kobojunkie:
By what standard do you judge these things?

LordReed:
The standard you are using.

Kobojunkie:
The standard I live by is God's. So again, by what standard are we to judge these things here.

LordReed:
So it was god who gave them the right to commit genocide and annex other people's lands? God extends this to all nations?

KnownUnknown:
Excuse you, two “Middle Brown” people from the vicinity of the Euphrates in Mesopotamia.

Kobojunkie:
My final word? Na me write wetin dey for inside the book or what?.

Kobojunkie:
Then case closed.

Kingsnairaland:
Let go further


According to the Bible, all people—you, your neighbors, the guy who makes your coffee—came from Adam and Eve (Acts 17:26). The number of humans dwindled to the eight who were spared aboard the giant ship we call Noah’s Ark—when God judged sinful humanity—and then we grew from there
(Genesis 6–10).

So, how did we end up with so many different skin shades? It’s probably simpler than you think, but it will require some basic genetics. (Don’t worry, we’ll keep it simple.)

Skin shade is governed by multiple genes and is quite complex, but for the sake of simplicity, assume for a moment that there are only two. Genes come in pairs of pairs. During reproduction, half of the genes passed on to the offspring come from each parent.

For this discussion, let’s assign the letters “A” and “B” to the genes that code for large amounts of melanin—the brown-colored pigment in everyone’s skin. We’ll also use the letters “a” and “b” to designate the genes for small amounts of melanin.

In very dark-skinned people groups, individuals carry AABB genes and only produce dark-skinned offspring. In very light-skinned people groups, individuals carry aabb genes and only produce light-skinned offspring.

If a male and female from each group mate and produce a child, the combination of their AABB and aabb genes would give rise to a child who carries the AaBb genes for melanin and would be “middle brown” in skin shade. Now, if two people carrying the AaBb genes got married and reproduced, their children could have a wide range of skin colors.


If Adam and Eve were both middle brown (AaBb), they would have produced children with a wide range of tones. Suddenly, all of us being one race doesn’t seem so complicated.

Okay, so that explains the different skin tones, but how did different people groups come to be divided as they are now? Again, we can find the answer in the Bible.

In Genesis 11, our ancestors refused to obey God’s command to spread out and fill the earth. Instead, they started building a monument to their insolence—you probably know it as the Tower of Babel.

God judged our ancestor’s disobedience by imposing different languages on them by their family groups. This language confusion forced them to scatter over the earth as God intended.

Eventually they congregated with others who shared a common language, and instantaneous barriers were set up in the gene pool. Not only would people tend not to marry someone they couldn’t understand, but entire groups that spoke the same language would have difficulty relating to and trusting those they did not understand.
These people groups then moved away or were forced away from each other into different parts of the world.

The dispersion at Babel broke the large interbreeding group of humanity into smaller groups with less genetic variability. Each group had different mixes of genes for various physical features. All sorts of factors modified the frequency of certain combinations of genes, causing a tendency for specific characteristics to dominate. In other words, kids and grandkids shared the same basic genes their ancestors took with them from Babel.

So, what’s the bottom line? The Bible tells us, and genetics confirms that we’re all descendants of Adam and Eve. No matter the color of our skin, we’re one race . . . but this also means we are all sinners, like our first parents, and all in need of the gospel in Jesus Christ.

Kobojunkie:
Again...You no read the book?

Again, by what standard are we to judge these things here?

LordReed:
The standard you are using.

Kobojunkie:
Yes, it did have right as a nation to do so. Other Nations did pretty much the same as history records it.

So?

Image123:
You don't have to suffer all the time and all your life and it doesn't have to be death or imprisonment. It can be other forms of suffering. i have suffered mockery and denial. i don't know about tomorrow.

Image123:
Lol, i don't know everyone personally but they are not the Word of God. The Word of God is the yardstick, so stop looking at men. The irony is that many of them preach what you are asking, and that's why many lose faith in God. Everyone wants to be like their healthy and rich pastors but God doesn't promise everyone health and riches in this life.
The point is that persecution is a normal and expected thing for Christians, just like temptations. But we don't pray for it, in fact we pray not to be led into temptation/persecution but delivered from evil. Like temptations, persecution is not necessarily everytime or in same form.
Some of these men you think are enjoying as believers have gone through physical persecution at some time and may still go through in future. If it happens, Christians that know won't be grumbling that why did God allow Bishop or Pastor to be persecuted.

Finally, all persecution is not death or imprisonment. It can be mockery, slander, speaking evil against, lying against, gossip, denial of rights etc. A Christian can be delayed or denied promotion or benefits because he/she refuses to "cooperate". Sometimes you don't see or know this. It is 5 years later or 20 years later you see God blessing him and he's looking all clean you'll think that he has never faced challenges. Every human faces challenges and trials of some form.

Kobojunkie:
You no read the book?

Again, by what standard are we to judge these things here?

Kobojunkie:
The standard I live by is God's. So again, by what standard are we to judge these things here.

Kobojunkie:
By what standard do you judge these things?

Kobojunkie:
You mean even over the last 2000 years ago, your UN was there to stop nations from doing such?

Kobojunkie:
Israelites there refers to those of the Nation of Israel with the same rights as any other government in this world.

Kingsnairaland:
Scientists have already done the research

And they found if you mix every color you get white which shows Adam and eve were white.............

When all three colors overlap, they blend to make white.

See what happens when you mix different colors.
Play with Color and Light › ..


If you mix all the colors of the rainbow, what color do you get?
If you mix all the-color..result is
Light is Additive, meaning when you mix all colors of the visible spectrum you get
white light.... Which is the color of Adam and eve....

Two white people have capacity to give birth to different race

Mind you weather changes people so from scripture we know the earth is around six thousand (6000) years so with time we can have different race due to weather and language changes

Science already found out all species” of dogs are descended from grey wolf.

Now
.. Noah gave birth to a black son called ham

Ham to a Hebrew word means "burnt", "black" or "hot",

Albinism is a recessive gene, thus the descendants of Noah must have had a skin tone range from “black” to “white-reddish”.

This skin variation may appear more in some descendants and less in others (natural selection).

This is why One of Noah’s sons was called Ham (meaning Hot/black), he was most likely the blackest/darkest of his siblings, bearing the closest or the same skin color of his forefathers (Lamech, Enoch….Adam and Eve).

What you eat over from one generation to the other affect your color the weather affects your color and many other things.

So it easy to see Adam and eve started the whole thing.

Image123:
Samuel, how's your training. i see you have been busy and less of an idle mind and devil tool. Send my regards to your oga and read.

John 16
2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.

3 And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me.

4 But these things have I told you, that when the time shall come, ye may remember that I told you of them. And these things I said not unto you at the beginning, because I was with you.

This is the Word of God and very much expected. All that live godly in Christ will suffer, that's Bible. Read this boy and overcome this your shameful ignorance.

paxonel:
you see now, you already have some school of thought perhaps you have been reading some books, not that they only come from your personal intuition and experiences.

So is mine!
I have been reading bible,that's how i know that LordReed will die in the spirit.

Now, if i want to debunk to you about this surface thing and recarnation you just said(what I'm not ready to do because i don't know anything about the book you have read to arrive at it ), then i must read the book you have read first. Otherwise, I have no business trying to convince you.
The same thing applies : if you want to tell me that LordReed will not go into a spirit realm when he dies, then you have to read the bible first to see what i saw before arriving that LordReed will die in the spirit.Then you will be in a better position to debunk my point