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Image123:
You're asking about the input, i clearly state the output, outcome and result. Your results are similar, You both don't believe in God just because you don't see what you want to see.
Many examples from the Bible and from experience show that seeing miracles and signs is not a guarantee for believing or serving God. Your similar friends are chief example among numerous others.

DeepSight:
Here, good sir -



I would recommend a strong coffee to wake you up.

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DeepSight:
I think you should dwell on it some more still.
For we are influenced - and even railroaded - by a great many factors.
And in this, DNA, for instance, counts big.

Genetic predisposition is a big point in the argument re: free will v determinism.

And one can trace genetic predisposition a long and deep way down an almost inexhaustible rabbit-hole - probably all the way to the beginning of the universe and potentially beyond.

Image123:
The part i put in bold(You don't believe in God just because you don't see what you want to see.) is where you are similar. This is a characteristic you both definitely share in common.

Image123:
Here's the similarity again in bold. You don't believe in God just because you don't see what you want to see.

DeepSight:
Whaaaaaaat? ? ?
Do my eyes deceive me or you just said this?
Reference our discussion on matter and mind.

This surely negates personal responsibility and also embraces determinism.
It also walks right into the position (which I contest) that matter (such as DNA) determines all . . .

Image123:
You don't believe in God just because you don't see what you want to see.
We receive the truth not because of seeing
wonders, but because of trusting in the word of God

elated177:
Reed, whether you like it or not, I, Elated177, a saint, servant and messenger of YHVH Almighty, the Creator of the heavens, the earth and the seas and everything in them, will continue to use the great and awesome Power of my Daddy in the sky to determine how rain falls on you.


Una go cry, wail, bleat, quack and lament tire. Una no go fit still change am

Image123:
Two funny things. One is that you probably share similar views with godly people on the reactions of the Israelites though we will not call anyone stupid, especially a redeemed child of God. The second is that you are hardly different from them in the sense that you don't believe in God just because you don't see what you want to see.

Rosement:
There is nothing wrong with religion. I cannot choose for others but personally I pick Option C, I believe there is a Creator because the creation of the universe looks like a well thought out plan and some evidence are pointing to it.

DeepSight:
How far.

elated177:
You still haven't understood. Chai! Ndo o!

By the Power of YHVH Almighty, my Daddy in the sky, whom you, Reed, show no regard for, I, Elated177, his humble saint, servant and messenger, will continue to determine how the sun shines on you.

Hismasterpiece:
I'm sure you'll give your life to Christ this year.

illicit:
I remember a popular case where IGP team and regular police had a face off

There were casualties

All because the both sides refused to stand down

FarahAideed:
Enough of all this talk ..the CSP did nothing wrong and acted very professionally..The Governor is actually the one that's wrong here ..
First the CSP is only there as an escort to a supreme court judgment where he and his men are to prevent a breakdown of law and order as court bailiffs enforce the rulling

Sanwoolu should know there is no other way around a supreme court judgement , if they wanted amicable settlement then he should have done that before the supreme court passed judgement.

Sanwo expecting a commons CSP to call the IG of police is laughable because that CSP doesn't even have IGP number.

Sanwo wanting the CSP to disclose the exact number of men he had in public was very unprofessional because disclosing the exact number of men could put CSP and his men at risk and the CSP did the right thing by refusing to disclose the exact number

booblacain:
(I had to bring this here first to get clarity from others before we go take it up with them at the Local Government Office).

A friend of mine just got his NIN slip from his local government office. To my surprise, the slip he was given looks like something that was photocopied, but he was told that it was printed directly from the computer. There are obvious discoloration marks on it that can only come from photocopy machines and not from printers.

My own sister has done her NIN and her own slip obviously looks like the original copy, the NIN logo on the back is in color and there are no photocopy discoloration marks on the paper.

off course, things can be printed in white and black, but not with photocopy marks.

The question that worries me is, if he was given the photocopy, where and who has the original. Obviously, the original copy exists because you can only make a photocopy from an original hard copy.

My suspicion is that the original copy was printed out and then photocopied, then only the photocopy was given to him, but why would they do this and lie to him that it was the printed copy. Why was the original copy not given to him and What do they plan to do with it?

Please people, Is this something my friend should worry about or am I being unnecessarily concerned about it?

The first two pictures  bellow shows my sister's NIN slip (original) and the other two shows the NIN slip that was given to my friend.

elated177:
You wish.

lahips:
2022 Weight watch going well.
My breakfast...1
Kids breakfast....2

Speaklove:
First of all #Lordreed I never intended to go public -with with this discussion between myself and you.
but as i was noting down the words that God inspired me to give as a reply to your question I found out that "they are too
Powerful and effect-creating"so much that they could also be the saving grace for others while keeping you in view .

This is not a plan to shame you or put you to public ridicule or debate -I am not a debator.
So please bear with me and forgive me for taking this path .
Thank you very much for your cooperation and understanding-#speaklove

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This is was Lordreed's reply to one of my comment on a particular post of mine
This is the link https://www.nairaland.com/6901414/ever-thought



This is my reply .
It is not meant for lordreed alone but also for all those who upheld the same thought about god like himself.

#speaklove#
You said
" A god that resides in your mind. "
#me
So if you claimed he resides in my mind then that should be one if the evidences that he is real because ;the mind is one of the four components of the soul .

The human soul is a living matter ,
And the mind is not an ordinary term to describe the thinking faculty of a human but a factual space of existence within the soul of man .

Secondly
You said "If your god was real you'd direct me to him but alas all you can do is offer supplication to your mental magic sky daddy"

#me
This is an indication that you've conceived a wrong or partial definition of the term or word "REALITY" within you .

"Reality" is not "Reality" because you can see or touch it ,rather it is about what you can or not see or what you can hear or not hear but
Which affect and influence your existence irrespective of your knowledge about it or acknowledgement of it .

So God was not or is not real because we think or imagined his existence but because we can see and feel his influence ,his power ,his dominion ,his artistic splendor displayed all over the wall of creation .

We ourselves are one of the proofs of the existence and reality of god -in that we are constantly faced with bewilderment every time we behold the streams of miraculous innovations and new findings from experiment conducted by this wonderful being called man .
So even the findings done through scientific experiments are not(or should not be) for discrediting the existence of God but for pointing to undeniable and factual traits that are no less than the handiwork if a higher being
Whose splendor are greater than anything humans can think or imagine ,and this being can not be called anything less than God-the Creator.

In fact;sometimes it is the wonder that flows from the exploits of men that made some men to begun to call some of their fellow men "gods" .
Even the man David looked at man and wondered, that he asked in
Psalms 8:4-6
[4]"What is man that You are mindful of him, And the son of man that You visit him?
[5]For You have made him a little lower than the angels, And You have crowned him with glory and honor.
[6]You have made him to have dominion over the works of Your hands; You have put all things under his feet,
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But they had no knowledge that man was made in the image and likeness of God.
This means: man was created to manifest the majesty of God to the whole of creation as a representative of God on earth .

So the scriptures say
Romans 8:19
[19]For the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God.

You #Lordreed#
I believe you are here on nairaland .
I did not believe because I could see you
But I believed your existence here on nairaland because I can feel you and see the works of your hand .

You yourself are an expression of the reality of God.

If you are looking for the evidence of the reality of God do not go far my dear friend
But look at yourself in a mirror .

You are fake as far as the mirror is concern because you don't live in the mirror ,
(same way god does not live in the world)

The mirror can't see you (even though you can see yourself in the mirror)
The mirror can't hear you (even though you can hear yourself speaking be for the mirror)

But you yourself know that you truly exist even though the mirror doubt or deny your existence .

The mirror can not see you
But you can see the mirror and even see yourself in the mirror .

The same way when God want to take a look at himself to see how he looks
He looks at "Lordreed" and smile and say how handsome I am .

But "lordeed" doesn't want to believe in god because he cant see God ,but God can see himself in" Lordreed" because God is real .

Lordreel -you are like " a mirror ",and God is like "Lordreed " who take a look at a mirror and see himself in the mirror even though the mirror might disagree , deny or doubt the existence of Lordreed".

So the mirror's inability to hear or see lordreed does not invalidate the existence of Lordreed .
The same way
Lordreed's inability to hear or see God does not invalidate the existence of God .

This is my reply to Lordreed and to every other person who upheld the same thought that he penned out as a question or argument for the nonexistence of God .

This answer his inspired by the spirit of the same God whose existence you question or doubt .
Even this answer alone is a pointer to the glory of the living God -even Jehovah who saved us and washes us from our sins by the blood of his son Jesus Christ .
For God so loved the world that he gave his only son that whosoever believe in him should not perish but have everlasting life.

#Lordreed .this is a stream of love that flows from the heart of the spirit of the living God who dwells in me towards you ,
And he declare unto you today and now
2 Corinthians 6:2
[2]For He says: “In an acceptable time I have heard you, And in the day of salvation I have helped you.” Behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.

Please yield your hearts to Jesus and be saved.! please.

I love you .

Modified thrice by 7 :45pm. On 2 -1 - 2022

elated177:
If only wishes were horses. Ihe efu!

elated177:
Ihe efu!

Rosement:
Please simplify. Is your answer among the options? Yes or No. If your answer is among the options, which of them is your preferred option?

LordReed:
4th option, I don't know.

Rosement:
In other words, you are saying you cannot get your own philosophy by analysing with your own brain, you cannot only use scientific discoveries to analyse.

LordReed:
There is nothing like mind of your own, we are products of those that came before us. I have stated my answer, I don't know. If however you want my speculation I would say natural processes which we have no current understanding of gave rise to our universe.

hupernikao:
Okay. Clearer now.

That God will surely be found.

Rosement:
The fact that we are products of those that came before us does not mean we cannot think on our own. If you don't understand the natural processes, why do you even believe their theories. Do you just prefer to follow blindly?

Anyway, you have answered the question to the best of your ability, thanks for participating.

hupernikao:
Okay. So in short, we don't have scientific evidence for now.

But I feel this same option can be adopted to the science of explaining God. I am sure the reason you don't believe in God is because there is no scientific evidence for such.

Hence you outrightly accepted that

"there is no God", not
"I don't know if there is God".

I think applying this same principle.

1. What is the origin of the earth or evidence of its beginning? I don't know because there is no scientific evidence.

2. What is the origin or evidence of God's existence. I don't know because there is no scientific evidence.

I feel this is more tolerant and easily adjustable overtime.

Rosement:
As a philosopher, you have a mind of your own. Think logical and pick the option you think describes the creation of the universe.

elated177:
Reed, you have nothing more to say.

hupernikao:
Good, sincere and honest answer. I guess the OP likely not sure of having sincere persons with this option.

Your answer likewise called for further response.

Why did you choose this option.

Is it because there is no scientific evidence on this yet?

helinues:
If there are billions of stars like ours, if there are billions of planets in the Goldilocks zone which could have supported life, we might not be alone in the universe. Infact there are 50 billion planets in the habitable zone in Milky way Galaxy alone

The elements, components that make earth habitable are also everywhere in the universe.

What do you think? Are we alone in the universe?

poka7:
Pls nairalanders, I need help ....my wife is acting strange and I discovered she is doing drugs...she is doing tramadol, this is really affect her mental health and her life in all aspect. She is becoming aggressive and had lost all the attributes that made me marry her. Please what can I do, I sent her to her family few months ago, noticed the situation is getting worst and we have a son together. I am really worried...friends keep calling me about her that she is looking very unkept and looking dirty ....what should I do??