NNTR: John 10:33 The Jews answered Him, “We are not going to stone You for a good work, but for blasphemy, because You, a mere man, make Yourself out to be God.”
Jesus disagreed with the dominant the Sanhedrin, in His time and they had Him arrested on trumped up charges of blasphemy, saying He claims to be God
How were the charges trumped up if they were true? Or is Jesus not god?
Nairaman001: On this “official”” day of celebration all around the world, I would like to pose a question to all the “atheists” in the house, Are y’all atheists or anti Christian?
I mean I notice that most atheists in their arguments seem to be negatively biased against Christianity and not really the whole concept of God, Allah, Buddha etc .
Note: when I say Antichristian I don’t mean Muslims, Buddhists etc, but I mean like atheists, you get?
Note: Don’t be a close minded to what I asked there is a real difference between an atheist and an anti Christian
Most of us are exchristians so we are more familiar with the Christian conception of god. It is more easy to refute a concept you are familiar with than one you aren't familiar with. This doesn't make us antiChristian by default, an antiChristian would actively campaign for the abolishment of all things Christian. I for one do not think Christianity or religion in general needs to be abolished but the bad ideas religion fosters need to go.
elated177: Where do they have you, Reed? Is it on their laps, their back or their chest?
Ask your omniscient god to tell you. LMFAO! Isn't it funny that you keep asking questions you could easily ask your supposedly omniscient god or maybe because you know your imaginary god won't answer you. Bwahahahahaha!
You are the one who has mental illness. You and the such people are the one with mental illness. Do I care what fagg0ts think or not think of me?
Answer the question, reed, where are you being carried by them? Is it on their laps, their back or their chest?
LMFAO! You don't care what they think of you but you are ready to punch someone if they call you a closeted homosexual. Guy you are severely conflicted. I am also guessing you are repressing homosexual feelings that is why you are so vehement. Repression won't help you, it will only add to your anguish.
jimmynauty: its rather unfortunate for ape to accept that apes reasoned that is why we have achieved technological prowess if it were possible, apes hopping in zoos will be great.
but where did the reasoning capabilities come from...Yahweh of course. lets read what was in His mind
gen 1 26
And Elohim said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
from the fotegone we can see The Mind desires another mind to dominate the earth which we can accept man is exploiting this ability in exploring using reason.
if man has being exploring the Mind planted in him, and an ape self condemned ape Friedrich Nietzsche, who with his ilk refuse to acknowledge Yahweh that have given him these reason capabilities to DOMINATE the earth now is ascribing it to an ape ability that we can see as evidence of doing nothing in zoo.
Because that, when they knew YHWH, they glorified him not as Elohim, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
reasoning is from Yahweh not apes because apes have never reasoned beyond mating, eat, procreate just after thier kind...ape centric belivers wants us to live as apes which have made Yahweh to
.Wherefore YHWH also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of YHWH into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever.
Reasoning to refusing the One who gave one that ability is DOUBT. this verse
gen 1 26
And Elohim said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
“We keep on being told that religion, whatever its imperfections, at least instills morality. On every side, there is conclusive evidence that the contrary is the case and that faith causes people to be more mean, more selfish, and perhaps above all, more stupid.” ― Christopher Hitchens
jimmynauty: apes are just, just too unintelligent to be creative to develop anything but are kept perpetually im cages by the ape cousins. how can one believe to have similar ancestry with apes except this is the reason
Because that, when they knew YHWH, they glorified him not as Elohim, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
if mere men, not apes, have laws and order in a soceity, of which when violated, because of common love and good, such violators are imprisoned and if gravity is indeed grievious, capital pirnishment is inevitable. but some ape called George Carlin feels otherwise for a Creator to maintain order in His created soceity...as been some evil. Dont you think duch minds of lawlessness need be imprisoned? by the way he is pumped up by another ape. oh well, shall we say apes that grunts together honks together?
the above agrees with the mindset of my super sky Daddy and NEVER of apes. yet some choose the degrading worldview of been from apes who are almost lawless that are fit for the zoo.
wouldnt that be fair, to say the least, that ape cousins who pride in being like apes be put where they belong
Because that, when they knew YHWH, they glorified him not as Elohim, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Another human idea not an ape lowlife, is humans have put in place tax to make its system work. where of course did such come from? from apes? pukes but exalted Mindset. what ape George Carlin mind doesnt know because his darkened heart isnt really rational but too darkened to comprehend Who put such novel ideas as tax that has made soceity he enjoys possible and also maintains their cousins habitation.
"drops da mic"
“Doubt as sin. — Christianity has done its utmost to close the circle and declared even doubt to be sin. One is supposed to be cast into belief without reason, by a miracle, and from then on to swim in it as in the brightest and least ambiguous of elements: even a glance towards land, even the thought that one perhaps exists for something else as well as swimming, even the slightest impulse of our amphibious nature — is sin! And notice that all this means that the foundation of belief and all reflection on its origin is likewise excluded as sinful. What is wanted are blindness and intoxication and an eternal song over the waves in which reason has drowned.” ― Friedrich Nietzsche, Daybreak: Thoughts on the Prejudices of Morality
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It's how they get revenue. If you don't want to see those ads only use paid for services.
fredwill1357: If a creator or creators exist, evolution could actually be their doing or part of their works and creation. Yes, I am speculating a creator or creators exist, are you saying you are sure a creator or creators don't exist and everything is the work of evolution?
I agree it is possible that evolution is the work of a creator but I need evidence of said creator since I already have evidence of evolution.
No I am not saying a creator or creators don't exist, I just don't believe they do.
jimmynauty: Truly ignorance of evolution theory is heavenly bliss.
To be the exalted one above degraded ape cousin who think they are wiser in denying YHWH likeness but became fools that animals serve as thier ancestors.
For I am not ashamed of the glad tidings of the Messiah: for it is the power of YHWH unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
17 For therein is the righteousness of YHWH revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
“Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!
But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money!” ― George Carlin
Do you consider this evidence of an afterlife? So an atheist will go to heaven even without believing in the god? Or an abusive parent will go to heaven and be the one to welcome the child he abused?
My personal opinion of this is, this man had a profound experience which has left an indelible mark on his psyche but it is not evidence of an afterlife.
Buliwyf: I believe creationism and evolution are not mutually exclusive. That said, I don't believe in any creation story.
I believe in a god in the sense that something must have started this whole existence we are experiencing. That thing can be an actual god, the universe itself or even us. We might be that God we believe or don't believe in.
So this is just your intuition or is there anything more substantial to your belief?
fredwill1357: Compare a man's sexual organ to that of a woman, there were designed just for each other, same with that of other animals. Every night the moon surfaces without fail and in the day, the sun sets. Every year there is raining and dry season, both complement each other.
A lot of things point to a creator, but no concrete evidence though.
If heterogeneous sexual copulation was the only reproductive strategy I would have considered this as evidence but it isn't. The fact that even within otherwise heterogeneous species there are even other reproductive strategies is clear evidence that sexual dimorphism is not evidence of creation but of evolution.
Because that, when they knew YHWH, they glorified him not as Elohim, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible Elohim into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore YHWH also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of YHWH into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. .
26 For this cause YHWH gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
“Natural selection builds child brains with a tendency to believe whatever their parents and tribal elders tell them. Such trusting obedience is valuable for survival: the analogue of steering by the moon for a moth. But the flip side of trusting obedience is slavish gullibility.”
TenQ: I think it's a question of two things 1. How far the person was gone. (Was the person just left in limbo or fetched). 2. Ability to recall the experience as I don't think it is different from having a dream except that it looks/feel more real (some people routinely forget their dream experiences).
The fact that they happen to a significant number of people who have flat lined is the key thing. I've heard a report where a blast Nd woman reported similar stories with the sighted. The most striking for me is when the "dead" is able to witness what was happening at the point of death in the physical (like what the doctors/medics were doing and report of events at the point of death)
Here is a NON Christian influenced NDE for your perusal
2. Why would an objectively existing thing be dream like? And why is recall quality the same as a dream recall?
Everybody dreams so what is the difference between these NDEs and a dream since the NDEs are more like dreams than reality?
I don't think being unconscious precludes you from receiving sensory input. For example when we are asleep we still receive sensory input from our environment even visual on occasion.
elated177: Thunder and lightning strike for saying such rubbish to me. You no dey fear? Is it because we are on a faceless forum? Can say that trash to my face?
It is likely you are a lesbian/homosexual. Nkita racha gi anya.
And what would you have done? Fight? Or call on your magic sky daddy? LoLz.
DeepSight: Do you recognize that to sustain this, you will have to posit a world wherein the micro organisms/ cells and neurons that form your body are imbued with such individual intention and motivation which coalesce into a collective purpose?
At a further level do you recognize how this worldview must necessarily eliminate personal and moral responsibility for any actions of any kind?
Huh? These are huge conjectures to make just from what I expressed. I dunno how you can get to cells have individual intention from "the self is a both the mental construct and physical body". What in my statement leads you to such a conjecture?
How does my worldview eliminate personal responsibility? You are the body taking action, how can that absolve one of personal responsibility?