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budaatum:
Amazing! I read a lot. Every book I read challenges the ones before it. I doubt my head can contain the many beliefs I could have. It would probably explode.

I can not understand why anyone would use their brain for storage when they can be computing with it my Lord.

Some of it is cultural and then an education that basically relies on rote instead of cogitation.

TenQ:
How does one confirm that ones logical sense is correct that and real that a man cannot eat up one bag of rice?
Must one attempt trying to eat a bag of rice to make a correct logical conclusion?

How does one confirm that ones logical sense is correct that and real that a foundation designed for a bungalow cannot carry a 35 storey building structure?
Must one attempt building the actual structure until failure to make a correct logical conclusion?

How did you confirm that your logical sense was correct and real in the above scenarios?

What am I getting at?
The fact that something makes logical sense does not imply that a PHYSICAL PROOF has been presented. The important criteria is that IT AGREES WITH COMMON SENSE and PROJECTIONS from known facts about similar things.

Is a human being similar to an advanced AI robot? YES
Is it feasible to have AI robots that doesn't have computer programs written to set their behaviours? NO
Are computer programs within an advanced AI robot tangible/physical? NO
Is it absurd that a human being has some form of advanced AI computer program running him? NO

Those who understand the above call this apparent SOFTWARE PROGRAM the SOUL/SPIRIT of man.
This is an example of how logical deductions are made.

This is funny. You keep using analogies where the answer to your question of how to show something is correct is right in front of you. Testing is the answer and of course data. Can a man eat a bag of rice ? No because he has tested that he can't even finish a pot so he know he can't finish a bag. So simpolified the question remains how did you confirm that the things you say are real and correct? How did you test your logical inferences?

thorpido:
Spiritually simply means beyond physical or material things.

No, i didn't say there was only one god. I said there is only One called the Almighty.

Nope there are several, Zeus and Odin come to mind.

Ok so how are we supposed to know about things that are beyond physical or material things?

BassReeves:
Exactly. So whats the 100% purpose in life?

Whatever you make it to be.

I am not surprised that you are in dark of you as a human being having an overarching purpose and neither not surprised, you dont believe there is an overarching purpose

This is irrelevant. What is relevant is what you can demonstrate to be true.

Yes I easily can give an example of these plans
1. plan to prosper me and not to harm me,
2. plan to give me a future, hope and an expected good ending

Sounds very generic. Your god must lack imagination.

Yes, I easily can show how I've made a success of the aforementioned plans.

Go ahead and show it.

thorpido:
I like your words in bold......... and i say to you, 'because only One can 'spiritually'. There are indeed multiple gods and they play different roles The bible says in a great house there are many vessels., not only gold or silver but also wood .... 2 Timothy 2:20
Indeed there are multiple gods but like you said, only one can SPIRITUALLY.

What does spiritually mean?

Also I thought you said there was only 1 god?

Dtruthspeaker:
Dodo, it is not!

No Road!

Pig wallowing in ignorance, babies are not born with language they learn it. Your head like eba.

budaatum:
Whao! This is very gone!

How were you forced to think?

I had never been challenged about the things I believed, I just believed they were true without any true understand of what it was I was actually believing in. It was here on Nairaland, several people contributed to my education.

Dtruthspeaker:
CHANGE OF POST!

The topic is not "language evolved"

No Road.

And the thread clearly shows that your brother in evil spoke stupidly.

Dumdum, it is the crux of the matter, languages evolve by human interaction they don't give birth to you with it. Let go of your unflagging ignorance.

budaatum:
You could not possible have been this enslaved my Lord!

To my still smarting regret I must confess I was but I was forced to think and that started the process of my escape.

budaatum:
It is not his will, my Lord. The brainwashers are very powerful.

Don't I know it my dear buda. Thank Andromeda escape is possible or else my dear buda it would have been me you were having to put mud in my eyes.

Dtruthspeaker:
Damn how do you be so stupid to forget Latin is the Nature of another group of peoples naturally living elsewhere who have similarity with Yorubas, Edos, and co ELSEWHERE?

Huff! You lack intelligence.

No Road!

Budaatum just schooled you not long ago that languages evolve yet you are calling Latin natural when it too evolved from something else. You are denser than a bag of hammers.

BassReeves:
I reiterate that the overarching purpose of life, one word, that springs to mind, is success. Now if like I earlier said that success, in reality, is a function of purpose, then no way can success be purpose

This is a contradiction how can the overarching purpose be success if success is not purpose? Overarching means ultimate so how can success be the ultimate purpose? It's like asking me what is your ultimate success, that is an incoherent question?

I am aware of all this your listed secondary purpose(s), but I am more interested in you share what as a human being is your comprehensive or all-embracing single purpose

You sure you are fulling your comprehensive or all-embracing single purpose?

All I wanted was one out of a binary answer (i.e. in relation the comprehensive or all-embracing single purpose whether its a bad success or good success)

I don't have an overarching purpose neither do I believe there is one.

Though its still your turn giving answers, I'll oblige you

1. What is your purpose as a human being, existing and living on earth?
My purpose as a human being, existing and living on earth, is to become every plan God know about me

And how do you know these plans? Can you give an example of these plans.

2. Are you fulfilling your purpose in life?
I am thriving in fulfilling my purpose in life, I am a building site, I am an unfinished project that is still being added to or developed.

3. How much of a success have you made of your life? Is it good success or bad success?
Without coming across as being conceited, I would say, by the grace of God, its good success,

Can you show how you have made a success of the aforementioned plans?

budaatum:
What I love about this thread is its topic.

How Dtruthspeaker's Deception Began!!!

Though he's sure to call it "word of Satansons".



Why are people sending their children to expensive school when their children can be "taught A,B, C and 1,2,3 by Nature and Natural Living"?

Dtruthspeaker, why are you paying fees to send your child to school where your child is being taught what your child can be "taught by Nature and Natural Living"?

The nonce is so bent on hanging on to his ignorance.

Dtruthspeaker:
Olodo raised to power 4, the yorubas, igbos and co had their own natural versions and duplicates of alphabets which is why they had Abeokuta long before the natives of Latin came.

Every native is independent and it is coincidence of similarity that English, Latin and Urhobo have similar A, B, C's.

No Road!

Damn you are so stupid how can it be natural if the form is latin? Gosh you are so unbelievably daft.

TenQ:
I hope you know the difference between logic and intuition?

Intuition has to do with gut FEELING not determined by reasoning.
Logic has to do with REASONING, DEDUCTIONS from available knowledge.

Your example of the flat earth is about our PERCEPTION and not INTUITION.

How does a virgin male dog know how to mate with a female dog on heat?
Is it by Perception, Intuition or Logic?

Is a human being more like a mechanical clock or an AI robot?

Can you just answer the question, how did you confirm that your logical sense was correct and real.

thorpido:
There are indeed multiple gods, just as there are mulitiple fathers. I have a question for you. Which of the multiple fathers in the world fathered you?

Only one because only one can biologically. Doesn't still tell me there aren't multiple gods. In the old days there was a god for everything and that makes more sense than a single all powerful god. Our societies are based on cooperation so why can't a cooperative society of deities exist?

Dtruthspeaker:
See OLODO raised to power 4, does not know that it is not only English language that had A, B, C.

Our natural tongues also had it eg in Yoruba language has A for Alaba, B for Bosé, C or K for Kayode. D for Dapo.

No Road!

You are a real olodo who doesn't know that Yoruba alphabets are the Latin forms of the spoken language that was arrived at when Ajayi Crowther worked to translate the English bible to Yoruba. The only other written form of Yoruba is Arabic. You are an olodo quack. LMFAO!

GeneralPula:
You didn’t mention what exactly was it that they framed you for?

Was it killing? Kidnapping? Rape? Money laundry? Banditry? Unknown Gun Men?

Which of the atrocities exactly?

Rape. The prosecution said they have him on cctv chasing the 13 year old girl victim along with DNA evidence linking him to the crime.

BassReeves:
The goal of the a drug addict was to rob someone off his/her money. Now if the drug addict achieves doing just that, then that is a bad success, because the money was successfully obtained in a way that is not approved off.

On the other hand, the goal of a philanthropist is to donate to help other people. Now if the philanthropist achieves doing just that, then the achievement is seen as a good success, because the philanthropy was successfully measured out in an approved way.

It takes me back to saying, again that, success is dualistic or binary, its either good success or bad success. Success, in reality, is a function of Purpose

So I re-ask again:
1. What is your purpose as a human being, existing and living on earth?
2. Are you fulfilling your purpose in life?
3. How much of a success have you made of your life? Is it good success or bad success?

So we are in agreement success is not purpose.

1. I have many purposes, some I have articulated and achieved, some are articulated and not yet achieved, some others are yet to be articulated or achieved. An example I have articulated and achieved are to finish university, get married and to have a family. Also I have purposes that are cyclical everyday type of things like I purpose to wake up early in the morning to get myself and my children ready for the day.

2. Yes I am fulfilling my purposes.

3. I am succeeding, may be not as much as I want but recording victories here and there. Well I would call it good success as I am at peace and looking forward to achieving more.

Can I have your own response to these questions.

AYNL:
why do you think the organisation,club or whatever you support or follow is the best?
and beside,he declared himself as the "best" as the one true god,as the way,life and truth
read all other religion books and find where their gods was confident to say that
none of them could say it

Zeus declared himself the greatest god so does that mean he is real?

thorpido:
There is only one God. There can't be two 'gods' because that will mean confusion.... and GOD is not a God of confusion.
The problem is how many 'KNOW' Him?
Jesus said, 'and this is life eternal, that they may know You and Jesus Christ Who Thou has sent'. John 17:3.
There is only One God... the Almighty. He sent Jesus. The question with doubters is, do they know This God Who sent Jesus?

Why can't there be multiple gods? You people like to use houses as an analogy for the universe and say that just as there is a builder of a house there is a creator of the universe. Well houses are built by more than 1 person yet they are able to do it in harmony so why can't there have been multiple gods working in harmony to build this universe?

KnownUnknown:
To buttress your point. The New Testament is a Jewish interpretation of ancient Egyptian and Mesopotamian ideas from a Greek perspective.

Hmmmm, I'll look into that. Sounds interesting.

Ammishaddai:
But there was a census , right ?

Yes there was. Lemme qualify my statement a bit there were censuses but not the way it is described in the Bible nor was it at the time period inferred in the Bible.

Ammishaddai:
Let me get this straight : are trying to tell me that the bible's account aren't also in the historical narratives we see in history textbooks ?

No it isn't. Take the census that supposedly happened when Jesus was born, the gospel links the birth of Jesus to the reign of Herod the Great, but the census took place in 6 CE, nine years after Herod's death in 4 BCE. Moreover, such census was limited to Judea and did not affect Galilee, which was governed by the ethnarch Herod Antipas and not directly under Roman control.

There were indeed three censuses of the entire empire during Augustus's reign (28 BC, 8 BC and 14 AD), but none of these censuses happened while Quirinius was the Legate of Syria, no Roman census required people to travel from their own homes to those of distant ancestors and, in any case, an imperial census would not have affected Joseph and Mary, who lived in the Herodian Kingdom of Judea, which was not under direct Roman control back then.

We know all this because the Romans were prolific and meticulous record keepers so there is no way the census was accurately recorded in the Bible.

Ammishaddai:
What other sources ? Because as far as I can recall, the bible is a historical document that tells of how God dealt with a particular race of people

It is a cultural record, no serious historian looks at the Bible and considers it a proper record of historical facts. The other sources are varied, some from Egypt some from Persia, the more famous ones are the Egyptian Steeles.

Ammishaddai:
It's simply because there is no other valid historical document that's as detailed as the bible.

LMFAO! Really? Did you know there was no census of the type said to be abbout the time of Jesus birth? Did you know that the Israelite kingdoms at the height of their power were not very famous as told by the Bible and could barely dominate neighbouring tribes not to talk of withstanding the might of Egypt or Persia. The Bible is a cultural record not a history book. It gets a lot of details wrong as confirmed by other sources.

MaxInDHouse:
Certainly!
That's what we meant when we call something "SIN" it's got nothing to do with unbelievers like you. We are talking to ourselves!
For instance, sex between two unmarried adults is not a crime in the human society but in the congregation it's SIN!
So we aren't setting standards for you that's not within our standard only applies to those within! 1Corinthians 5:13

Swell!

budaatum:
You don't quite get how bad this is my Lord!

A simple ask and knock and seek would inform him abc evolved but mental slavery stops him from obeying his own God!

May we all learn to ask, seek and knock lest ignorance warp our minds. Amen.

MaxInDHouse:
Well God's people won't come telling you not to smoke!
But in our midst it's a sin because as ministers of the Good News we must make ourselves approachable always! Isaiah 32:1-2

So we do have neighbours, colleagues and friends who are smokers but in the congregation we don't have pollutants.
That's why it's a SIN in our midst!

Yeah sure. I guess what is left to say is keep it to yourselves.

Dtruthspeaker:
SERPENT!

ANOTHER CHANCE OF POST!

I did not say "English is found in nature" I clearly implied "A, B, C is seen in Nature.

No Road!

Look at this olodo, A B C are English letters, how can they be in nature. Don't be a dullard now.