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hupernikao:
his reference is the scriptures, he was also speaking about those who hold the belief in the scriptures. His assumptions were from the scriptures. Hence that is the platform of discussion, and I am sure you know that.

My platform is what can be demonstrated. You don't what to demonstrate so what are you on about now? If you don't want to demonstrate then our conversation is over there is nothing to discuss again.

Mommadd:
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hupernikao:
This is the person you responded to first. Observe he was speaking and referencing the Bible.




This was your response.




You were answering a scriptural text. You perfectly described and gave an intent of how what was written is either not correct or being misinterpreted by the OP.

This is why I responded to let you know that what you wrote is wrong with respect to the scriptures.

I didn't reference any scripture nor was my answer based on scripture so I don't know what you mean. The question was: "If nobody can interpret, how are they sure they are speaking to God or passing meaningful messages." and I answered it. I don't care about any scripture, lets show what is factual.

hupernikao:
You have forgotten the beginning of discussion. You were the one who referenced the scripture. And I corrected it. I am not here to control what you believe or don't believe. I never put anything up for you to believe. The Bible is there if you need believing. I only pointed you to how you have missed interpreted the scriptures. This is the focus.

If you now want a prove of the discussion, you may need to then still show me from the same scriptures where I am instructed to obey such request as yours. If not, I won't measure my obedience with what you feel.

So, the point here is that Paul in the scriptures taught tongues as not human language, he called it praying in the spirit, blessing in the spirit. This is what you omitted or didn't see in your very first response.

So, this shouldn't be an argument as your basis of correcting the OP you quoted was misinterpretation of scriptures. And that is what I corrected you on, that the scriptures taught it.

The issue of believing it or not is now secondary, and that's individual responsibility.

I didn't reference any scripture so I don't know what you mean. Maybe you should reread my post again.

Image123:
Lol, how many Christians do we have in the Middle East, not to talk of influence? You are saying something very negligible and more of a fantasy. There is no known Christian alive that wants war in any part of the world.

I talking about American Christians in particular. Mike Pompeo and Mike Pence when they were in government wanted a war with Iran ostensibly because of Israel and their Christian beliefs, its not a fantasy. They were the ones who urged Trump to have Soleimani assassinated. It seems its you who is naive here, you seem to think that every Christian is a pacifist and there are none who want war.

Image123:
Like i said, it's next to impossible to have that danger with Christianity.

It isn't impossible. Some Christians want to go to war in the middle east because they think it will be the precipitation of the end times.

Image123:
We've continuously had to stem the tide of atheistic madness as exhibited through people like Stalin and Mao and the crazy godless laws that keep coming up and hurting the world. There's very scarce records of people dangerously misbehaving because of the Bible. Certainly other religions, yes. But you can't obey the Bible or attempt to obey it and be a danger to humanity like we've seen atheism and other religions. People can use the Bible manipulatively to make money or for control(power) but it's easier in other religions and atheism.
A Bible and religion that teaches you to have the Spirit of God and the fruits of loving others, forgiveness, making peace, being faithful in your home and place of work, living with hope and joy. If that's what you refer to as dangerous and ending you, you really don't know what you are talking about. There's no morality better than that found in the Bible, no quality of life better, no eternity better. All you can hope for is play around some couple of verses that only you and a few others decide to misrepresent.

Bwahahahahahahahahaha! There is no atheist who is rich from selling atheism on the contrary there are loads of people rich from selling Christianity and more so than any other religion.

I am referring to people who in their positions of power could precipitate dangerous situations because they feel they are bringing about some prophetic fulfilment. Can you imagine what would happen if Saudi Arabia became a world super power on the scale of the US and some Hitler-esque Muslim leader was in charge deciding a worldwide jihad to bring about Islamic domination was a reachable goal.

hupernikao:
Methods are subjective to the willingness of the individual. What governs us differs. I am trained and taught to know that some things don't require distribution or noise making.

Do you want me to neglect my training to please you? I am sure you don't. So, like I said, I wasn't trained or taught from the scriptures to do so.

What I expect you to try and debunk is if I am lying about what scriptures taught me on showing off what you asked. If am not lying, then you don't have to make a man neglect his training to please you by giving you your desire.


So, like I said. the scriptures taught about tongues and praying in the spirit, I have shown you that from the same scriptures you referred earlier.

And the scriptures also taught on how we relate with it as regarding trying to please another by showing off.

This is the point.

How can I debunk your statement when there is nothing to debunk? If you had agreed I also would have recorded myself speaking in tongues so that we can compare how different or similar they are.

Someone tells you "I have a golden toilet" you ask him for a photo of the toilet and he tells you "nope I am trained to not take photos of toilets". You then tell him well too bad I don't believe you and he says why don't you debunk his statement first. Did he give you anything to debunk?

How are you showing off? Is there a prize to be won or is this for bragging rights? You are proving what you said as correct where is the commandment that says you shouldn't do so?

BeLookingIDIOT:
Hope one day someone won't see you as a snake and kill you simply because you belong to parents ,race,tribe,faith etc they deem evil.
That aside,you're really a snake.

I just hope that we are able to stem the tide of religious madness so it doesn't drive us to extinction. The way some of these people are going they could precipitate some dangerous conflicts that end us all.

Hismasterpiece:
Stealing because your family is starving is still stealing nonetheless. If you had only 1 million naira in your account of which you were planning to use 950,000 to treat your sic child and somebody defrauded you of 900,000 in order to buy medicine for his sick mother would you pity him for doing such? Are his needs more important than yours?

Evil is evil regardless of the motive behind it.

Are saying evil should go unpunished? If God didn't hold people like Hitler, Osama, Abacha, accountable for their evil deeds would that be fair? What of all their victims? Who would plead their case?

You choose to focus on one aspect of God and ignore the others. What about Heaven? Isn't it the same Person that created it?

Hell would be a wicked concept if God actually intended for people to go there but He doesn't. And He paid the ultimate price to ensure that people don't go there.

The only thing that takes people there is sin. Who tempts people to sin? satan Who repeatedly gives people warnings not to sin? God.

The will of God and character of God has been clear from the very beginning. He is the one that warned Adam and Eve not to eat the fruit. Satan is the one that told them to eat the fruit.

So you see who the god guy is and who the bad guy is.

You keep trying to bring God down to your level and interpret His actions with human reasoning and that is wrong.

God operates on a higher plane than humans intellectually. His judgements are unsearchable and His ways past finding out.

There are many more aspects of your god concept that are just as terrible even though the hell portion seems to be rather egregious.

Anytime the god concept is challenged you believers find a way of elevating the concept to places where you think proper inquiry cannot reach yet you present it as if you understand it completely, that is a contradiction. Either we can understand this concept and we can make inquiries or we can't understand it and can't make inquiry, it can't be both at the same time.

BTW there is no way to whitewash the hell concept. Your god concept is supposedly in charge, he didn't passively standby while the hell formed itself according to the concept, he created all things including hell and all the conditions necessary to go there. You cannot now attempt a white wash, it doesn't fly.

Bacteriologist:
Africa has the largest proportion of youth population. Most African countries have the lowest median ages in the world . But I wouldn't expect a bible bashing, science denying Christian to know this though.

It's not written in the bible that's why he doesn't want to believe it. LMAO!

BeLookingIDIOT:
Guilt by association,that's entirely what their faith is founded upon

As in it's truly bewildering.

hupernikao:
If Paul taught us to act like that, I would have done it for you. But he never did.

LMFAO! Don't you just love how all methods of validating the truth of you people's claims are actively resisted. Bwahahahahahaha!

hupernikao:


Here again?

Yes it is glossolalia. Which can be "to speak in tongues". But you didn't read it whole, if you do you will see how Paul intelligently clear that for you to show the different from what you speak and what he is saying.


He called it

glossolalia 1 Cor 14:2
proseuchomai pnema 1 Cor 14:15
eulogeō pneuma 1 Cor 14:16

He said the glossolalia he is speaking about comes from the spirit.

Pray with/in the spirit
Bless with/in the spirit

Is what he called speaking in tongues.

So that is the distinction from your illustration.

Record an audio file and post it here to show the difference.

TenQ:
4. We may be genetically predisposed to having higher resistance

We are not which is proved by high rates of infection in African and African descendant populations in countries with high infection rates. If we were genetically more resistant then the rates would be lower in such populations but it isn't.

SenecaTheYonger:
Get your vitamin depleted ass out of this thread lmao. FAct my ass.

You wouldn't know a fact if it bit your lazy brained arse.

Image123:
This is low level ignorance, when are you also going to blame the devil while at it?

Go bother the person who said it was your god who did it not me.

SenecaTheYonger:
Hahahahahahahaha. Relatively young population

I know you are immune to facts but at least allow your brain the exercise.

200naira:
Wonderful God

He does whatever he likes

Your god gave the baby cancer. What a wicked god.

SenecaTheYonger:
Relatively younger population? Lmao. What a joker.

Yes Mr God Did It. 40% of Nigeria's population is in the age range 0-14 compared to the US where the same age range contains 20% of the population. The joker here is you who believes in an incompetent god.

mariahAngel:
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SenecaTheYonger:
… Nigeria recorded one of the lowest death rates in the world (3k) when it came to the pandemic compared to USA recording 600k deaths despite the technology they possess.


I believe this was a miracle from GOD.

Has nothing to do with your god or with technology. There are several factors why covid-19 wasn't bad in Africa the principal being our relatively dry clime and relatively younger population. BTW the percentage of deaths of those infected is about 1.3% which is about 0.7% behind global death rate. It shows that even though the volumes are lower the effect is still the same. If this is how your god operates he must be very incompetent.

TenQ:
The point is that just like the physical infection of Eczema doesn't do much physiological damage to a person,
some demonic infection dont also do much damage to a person.

Demons are just like the spiritual equivalence of disease causing organisms in the infected.
I hope you wont get this wrong again.
Note: I didn't say disease causing organisms are demons o. LOL!

The sentence is unclear, you should rephrase it, eg: demonic possession can be mild in the same manner a skin disease like eczema is mild. It should be clear you are making a comparison not giving an example.

zyzxx:
Good morning sir, pls, don't forget to come and apologize to those you have abused, when you finally know the truth.

And also preach the gospel

Jesus christ love you

Huh? Apologise for what exactly? And what truth am I supposed to know?

Harshirama:
Why? To prove the scriptures are true?

Yes. I really would like to hear what it's like.

Harshirama:
Many christians still interpret tongues. I have and I still do. Interpretation of tongues is useful especially when ministering to other believers. If you don't plan to interpret, then it's better to speak to yourself and God only, just like in 1 Corinthians 14.
So OP, don't conclude christians don't interpret tongues. Many still do. I've had people tell me things I never told anyone through that medium.

Can you post an audio recording of you interpreting tongues?

TenQ:
I can see how low your ability to comprehend simple english language is . No wonder, you have always been confused even to ascribe demonic possession to yourself and still act out your confusion.
Open your eyes and read again.

Oga learn how to construct better sentences. You wrote like a kindergarten pupil and are surprised I misinterpreted it. Look at this sentence: "Most people have some form of mild demonization...like a skin disease called Eczema:", anybody reading that sentence would think you are saying eczema is demonic.

Dtruthspeaker:
On behalf of God I can answer this one!

And the Answer is "I severally WARNED them not to go IN THAT WAY that they shall suffer if they go there".

I also WARNED them saying "Turn Back, Turn Back, like Gran Turismo and other car races warn player saying "WRONG WAY", "WRONG WAY".

But they did not listen.

So they have planted Suffering and therefore, they must Harvest suffering As The Law has Set.

But you are Satan's Personal Avatar yourself so you are already automatically disqualified from asking.

This threads is for humans and and not for Satan's Avatar or his children whether legitimate or adopted or his bastards.

Still waiting for you to evict me you worthless gas bag. Demonstrate that you have power and stop me from posting on here instead of all your pompous nonsense. Till then, I will post where I please and all you can do is talk trash. LMFAO!

Dtruthspeaker:
As I always tell you, That's what it means to be a creation. Just as your phone can not command you to charge it, so do all creations wait at the pleasure of their Creator. So baa, wahala!

Here we go with the dundee analogies again. Keep wishing for what will never happen, we can see you are nothing but a dummy.

bmdmix11:
is dat wat u think ?


speaking in tongue is spiritual something 99 percent of humans no longer have.

a baby forming syllables is an example of a bad example to speaking in tongues

a human speaking gibberish to a baby n think he /she is speaking baby language is an example of some one speaking in tongues n thinks dey are communicating

You are exactly right, all those speaking in tongues are speaking gibberish that's why there is nothing to translate. There is no spiritual anything in it.

TenQ:
If you knew you were ACTING, too bad.

Majority of those who manifest cannot even recall what happened as they were manifesting (depending on the depth of their demonisation). Many times, they would even deny that they said some crazy things unless you happened to record it.

A student of my (a boy) was like that (then a very unserious hard-boy). I wasn't the one who prayed for him but he manifested so badly that I recorded it on my phone. You need to see his face in my office the second day while he watched himself performing and spewing out crazy things.

Deliverance isn't the solution to ALL problems, however,I think I have seen enough to see the various shades, depth, scope of demonization in which it can affect the demonized. Most people have some form of mild demonization...like a skin disease called Eczema: it doesn't disturb too much but it also doesn't mean it is not present.

BTW:
-Deliverance many times occur without any apparent physical manifestations
-Deliverance many time is NOT complete. Half deliverance always produce temporary relief

LMAO! Eczema is now a demonic possession? Bwahahahahaha! Thank Andromeda we have a better understanding of the causes of illnesses and diseases or else we would have been beholden to quacks telling us all manner of tall tales and selling us snake oil cures. Oga we have progressed past this your demon of eczema stories.

Image123:
i don't know a god that does that, fortunately for me. Like you have shown, the Bible never inspired you or the billions who read it to do that. Billions more get their sense of right and wrong from God and cannot even cope but come short including you. You should be thinking seriously about that, instead of fuming over some wikipedia page.

Your bible says your god does that. Glad you admit that if a god comes giving such an order you'll tell them to take a hike.

I agree it's impossible to meet such baby killing standards.