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Anthony0094:
How is that possible I thought they said that this car cannot have an accident

They can't use that kind of language or else they'll be sued. They'll most likely say the car is safer than human controlled cars.

Image123:
Verily. Expect the worst in this world because the devil is the prince of this world and the christian's kingdom is not of this world.

John16:33  These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

2Ti_3:12  Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.


While you expect that from the world, you have faith in God for ultimate salvation and judgement of the world. And that faith is IN GOD, which is a living faith, a faith with works, a proactive faith, a faith that watches, a faith that flees from danger as instructed by Jesus, a faith that grows and engages in warfare. It's a textbook on it's own but the above is a summary.

Wow. OK o!

Image123:
Exactly. It is impossible to be emotionally invested in Bunyan in the same way. They are worlds apart.

Emotional investment doesn't make a tall tale true.

Image123:
Here and there

You talked about going to heaven and laying treasures in Heaven so therefore no need to build here on earth.

Those were not suggestions.

Image123:
Ask her. It's a world apart.

Don't need to, she's not going to say anything different from you. You both are emotionally invested in the Jesus stories, it soothes you.

Image123:
i wonder what Jesus should say then, He just came out of a vigil into a gruesome death. Look at Jesus Christ and the Bible, not at the major joke that a lot of christainity is(became) to judge christianity. The God you pray to says WATCH and pray, not just pray. The church you pray in says watch and pray, not just pray. But you come up with the reasoning that prayer alone should be it. You are likely a victim of the health and wealth prosperity gospel. Check the Bible.

So every christian should expect to be killed?

Image123:
It has everything to. You linked it to going to Heaven and the coming of Jesus.

This was my suggestion:

LordReed:
160,000 people empowered with a million each would have way more impact than this project in my opinion.

Where in it do I mention Jesus or heaven?

Paradine:
Hello friends! This is, I think, my first post on Nairaland. I am very excited to be here! I am an "Unorthtodox Trinitarian Deist" and I practice a modern form of Neoplatonic Theurgy.

Interesting. Can you expatiate on your practice?

Image123:
You can pray to God for anything. Protection is not the primary purpose of vigils like you insinuate, that's the point. There's no Bible reference or instruction or teaching stating so, it's your assumption. Andý like i showed you, even Jesus Christ Himself(Oga patapata) was "kidnapped", arrested and killed in a most gruesome manner immediately after a vigil.
There is a need to WATCH, if prayers were all that was required or the panacea for security, there will be no instruction to watch and pray. Most church vigils i know will inform the participants to be careful. Some will not even let people go out or come in at certain times due to security and safety. And they will tell them to walk in large groups/numbers. So i am wondering why you get the idea that going to vigil means you don't need to be security conscious.

It may not be the primary purpose but it certainly features very prominently. Without a doubt she must have prayed for protection, even if she didn't I still find it quite telling that she gets attacked after a night vigil and doesn't live to tell the tale. Quite telling indeed.

Image123:
It's okay for people to have different opinions and preferences. Like this colour, model, size, style, budget etc. Nothing wrong with that. Where it becomes wrong is "spiritualizing" it or claiming Holy or godly over it, or twisting Bible over it.

Exactly. My suggestion had nothing to do with spirituality.

Image123:
The point is that there's billions of difference between Bunyan and Jesus. If you can't see that, ask your spouse, may be able to explain better.

That is irrelevant. Tales tales are tall tales whether it's of your favorite god character or otherwise.

Image123:
Thanks for the spelling correction.

Is Keppler claiming a shared heritage between Jesus and Osiris? Whatever the answer though, always remember that thieves and counterfeiters can be very smart and fast in their dubious ways. The devil was in Heaven for a while, he knows how things work there.

He was claiming shared heritage with respect to flood stories from various regions of the world. I introduced the Osiris myth as a way to underscore the fact that similarities in religious tales does not indicate a shared heritage. If you believe the flood stories are all linked then be necessity you have to accept that dying and rising gods are all linked. Disavowing one disavows the other likewise. The article makes it abundantly clear that you cannot assume links because of similarities, you have to prove they are linked.

Image123:
They don't argue against building or expanding churches.

They'd oppose this particular one though. Even here on this thread your fellow believers have spoken against it.

Kokobilo87:
Police killed an armed criminal with the name lil homicide who was shooting at passing cars and you are here displaying fake outrage.

The shooting was justified. Deal with it

LMAO!! Keep projecting that's what you lot do best.

Image123:
It's a costly assumption as you have seen. Jesus Christ didn't go to vigils for protection. And most church vigil organizers tell you to take necessary precautions as said.

So you can't pray to your god for protection from your enemies? Or is that your god won't grant the request?

Image123:
Who believes in Bunyan, billions of people believe in and claim to encounter Jesus. You should be smart enough to see the difference.

Billions of people claim to encounter things you don't believe so that is not a point.

Image123:
i must have had a similar line of discussion with you before. Authenticity is not based solely on first to appear, your point is mute. There are many fake versions and models that come out before the original. Remember your friend the devil is a thief and liar.

It's moot not mute.

My point is similarity is not an indication of shared heritage. The article keppler referenced made it even doubly clear.

basilico:
This kid was unarmed?

Better still. The cop should have waited for baxkup?



eleased part of the same video on its website on Thursday. The department placed an arrow on a still frame, pointing to what appeared to be a handgun in Toledo's right hand before Stillman opened fire.

"838 milliseconds between gun shown in hand and single shot," the police department said in a caption

Glad someone already posted the pix of the guy's hands in the air...empty. So yes he was unarmed.

Goodvibes007:
You are a liar just like the devil.

No one disputes the fact that he had a gun, or threw the gun away. The question on people's mouth is: Did the police officer need to shoot him after his hands were up in the air?

Hands in the air means the 13 years old kid surrendered. Not different from a boxer's side throwing a towel in the ring for the ref to immediately stop the fight, or an enemy in a war situation raising a white flag to signify surrender.

You were trying to be mischievous by not posting the picture of his hands up. Even the cop knew he bleeped up and started crying not long after. I will help you with that picture so that you don't bend the truth.

I don't regularly reply to post here. I just had to reply the lie above.

Don't mind these guys. They like to twist the narrative to fit whatever flavor of BS they want to serve. Imagine an adult saying a 13yr old deserved to be killed because his nickname was some version of homicide and/or diablo.

Kokobilo87:
You play stupid game you will stupid prize. Nobody deserve to die in a plan crash but it happens. Police life is at risk. Kids life is at risk. Till you stop thinking the police are the justice league or the the avengers you will not understand what is going on. As it is you are just posting what you see at Twitter

Yeah sure let's allow the police be judge, jury and executioner, that should make for a well balanced society. SMH.

BTW you are the twitter regurgitator, don't project your fanboyism on me.

keppler:
I have maintained that your analogy is like the fallacy of comparing apples and orange. One is religion which basically would have similar concepts (and some studies even showed that they mostly come from still one source, that monotheism diverged into polytheism just as there are many sects of Christianity coming from one source. Just with the difference of there being a written document which can not be altered, still proving my point anyway) while the other is about a story about an event which its type cannot be found again, but such unique story was found among different folks in various places.
Your argument of them having knowledge of the boat building and sea would hold more ground if there are other stories found in various cultures which mention stuff which should be global. We don't have any of this.
So, comparing apples and orange (even if I had allowed such fallacy in the first place) in order to stay a float is really funny

LoL! Your argument was wrecked by the very same article you referenced and all you can say is fallacy this and fallacy that. Bwahahahahahaha!

Notice how you skipped answering my question: Which part of what I mentioned about the Osiris myth was written after Jesus?

BTW Jewish monotheism came from monolatry and before that polytheism, get your facts straight.

basilico:
Your are such a hypocrite. The Florida school shooting. The killer had been reported to FBI saying he would shoot up the school and his mother which he did.
There was an armed guard in the school.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/feb/22/stoneman-douglas-shooting-armed-guard-did-not-go-in



The armed deputy who was on campus at Marjory Stoneman Douglas high school when a gunman massacred 17 people stood outside the building as it occurred and did not go in to engage the shooter, the Broward County sheriff, Scott Israel, said on Thursday.

Deputy Scot Peterson, who was the school resource officer at Stoneman Douglas in Parkland, Florida, resigned from the department on Thursday after being told he would be suspended, Israel said.


Israel said he made the decision after reviewing video surveillance and interviewing witnesses, including the deputy himself. The sheriff says Peterson responded to the building where the shooting took place, took up a position outside a door and never went in.

He did not say if Peterson would face criminal charges
When asked what Peterson should have done, Israel said the deputy should have “went in, addressed the killer, killed the killer”.

The sheriff said he was “devastated, sick to my stomach. There are no words”.


The guard resigned because he did not act fast enough.

There you go. Demanding backup now to make that cop who shot the gangbanger appear irresponsible Yet the school guard was vilified

After shining the light on your hypocrisy if not idiocy , where do you now stand?

Yes my ignorance has been highlighted because police tactics have changed. Still doesn't justify shooting an unarmed 13 year old even if his nickname is EL Diablo Lord and Master of all gangs.

Kokobilo87:
Yap, you can't fix the stupid

In your case, according to you, you deserve to be shot for stupid reasoning.

Kokobilo87:
Like they say you can't fixed the stupid. If I shoot someone and the police came for me and I hand you the gun and you took it and started running with it in the dark. You deserved to be shot for being stupid.

Just incase you don't know police are afraid too

And you deserve to be shot for reasoning like an idiot. See how that works. Nobody deserves to be shot just because they were stupid. That is called extrajudicial killing and should not be a thing in any sane society.

basilico:
A trained cop vs an amateur shooter. Wait for backup?
Shaking my head.

Yes wait for backup, unless you think an amateur shooter's bullets have respect for your police uniform.

basilico:
The gangbanger 13 year old was nicknamed "little homicide".
Very harmless nicknames

Yeah all those guys on Death Row Records should be executed, they must be dangerous criminals. Also let's execute Snoop Dogg cos he said Murder Was the Case that They Gave Me.

Kokobilo87:
I showed you how stupid your argument was

Actually you showed how stupid your reasoning is.

Uyi2017:
I was arguing with a friend of recent about pizza and shawarma which has the best taste.

What's your take?

If I am hungry sharwama, if I am not pizza.

Image123:
Like i said, you don't understand God or spiritual things. Building a church is not the translation of laying treasures on earth. Jesus Christ said His followers should be occupied till He comes, not idle. Waiting for the coming of Jesus Christ doesn't stop a believer from living a good, profitable, productive and achieving life. Some with your understanding refuse to marry, have children, go to school, work but God never sent them such message. What He says is to set our affections above, make eternity your priority.

LoL! Ok o, tell the people like you who believe in Jesus that.

Ibime:
Sorry for him, he was carrying gun just used in a shooting, nobody is going to politely question if he was the one shooting or someone else. Go read about Shorty Pop, the biggest young killer in Washington during the days of Alpo and Wayne Perry. Guy had multiple bodies by the age of 15. There are many young shooters in Chicago. Only a foolish Police Officer who doesn't want to go home will give benefit of the doubt. If you are with the gun, you are the shooter in a live situation. The rest can be investigated later.





Wait for backup in shots fired situation, even if people are being killed?

It's like you kuku don't want Police again.

Who was being killed here? Even during school shootings they tell them to wait for backup.

Kokobilo87:
He was the one who robbed the bank, he was just holding the guns for the criminals, helped them with the money and drive them to their hideout

And that is reason enough to shoot and kill him?

Image123:
Is Paul Bunyan the Saviour of the world or the Son of God?

Paul Bunyan and Jesus are examples of tall tales told about likely real people.