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Image123:
Jesus Christ was crucified after a night vigil of sorts in Gethsemane. Night vigils don't prevent people from being attacked and killed, who told you such? Even the church leadership will tell participants to be careful and not even go out until certain times perceived to be safe and in groups. The robbers and murderers are the ones who religious piety should stop from being murderous robbers.

Really? I used to think you went to night vigils to pray for protection from your enemies.

GboyegaD:
Not at all. It has Coconut milk inside. It was cooked with half Easter, half Coconut milk. It isn't the same as Coconut rice in Nigeria. It is just a way the Caribbeans cook and call it.

You wrote mashed potatoes though.

Ibime:
There were gunshots in the area, most likely let off by the boy.

If a Policeman is in your area and someone is letting off shots, you expect him to wait for backup before chasing down the menace who could be putting members of the public in harm's way?

There's nothing worse than a kid with a weapon. A kid with a gun at this age is nothing but bad news to society. They should be protesting against his parents. The policeman who shot him has never let off a shot on duty before.

He wasn't the one who fired the shot. He was given the gun to hide that's why he threw it away just before he was asked to raise his hands. The guy who fired the shots has been arrested and charged.

As far as I know in shots fired situation you are to wait for backup.

Ibime:
I see nothing wrong with the shooting of Adam Toledo.

I have said it many times that for America to.make progress on race relations, it needs to ban guns. Every few months or weeks, we are sucked back into debate on the racist intention behind a Police shooting. There are.more racist countries where black.people don't die everyday because neither Police nor Citizens carry guns.

Don't be so quick to support this shooting. Is it SOP to chase an armed suspect without backup? This to me is a clear case of law enforcement gone wrong. While the suspect/dead victim doesn't get exonerated, the cop is not squeaky clean either.

GboyegaD:
Breakfast:

Tried Bubble'n' Squeak but it failed, came out like a pan cake instead of fried cake. Forgot to take a picture though.

Dinner:
Mashed Potatoes served on a sweet puree made from tomatoes, bell peppers, seasoning, sour cream, and orange jam; a side of saute vegetables (onions, red bell peppers, mushrooms, and spinach), beef, topped with parsley flakes.

Huh? This looks like rice and beans. Wrong pix?

Image123:
Myths and history are parallels, interesting.

A man named Jesus may have existed but it by no means validates a resurrection story or any of the fantastical tales told about him. Ever heard of Paul Bunyan? Look him up if you haven't.

Image123:
How much is okay for a Christian to spend or invest? Someone who doesn't understand or believe God or spiritual things should not be quick to offer advice on them.

I dunno, you guys are the ones who believe Jesus said to not lay treasures on earth but in heaven so you tell me.

Image123:
What has her death got to do with religious piety? Were her murderers said to be religious?

She was coming from a night vigil, that religious activity did not prevent her from being attacked and killed. If it was a panacea, she would not have been attacked and killed.

keppler:
I didn't make my point clear when trying to point out and emphasize 'details'. What I meant to point out was that they have a global flood and have exact details scattered among them. They all don't have ALL THE DETAILS in them but the details are fairly distributed in such stories. That is what the chart showed.


This time, I guess you didn't get my point. I said that the myth of Osiris existed before the life of Jesus on earth but what is RECORDED which have what appears to resemble the life of Jesus appeared LONG AFTER Jesus' death. And many other alleged parallels (which don't meet up with the flood parallels) appear after Jesus' death. This still agree with my point that Christianity must have influenced such alleged parallelism. And I explained the 180 degrees out of phase with that of the flood, which wouldn't make your analogy follow in the first place. Funny isn't it?

Which part of what I mentioned about the Osiris myth was written after Jesus?

Meanwhile here is what the article you reference says about religious stories similarities:

4. Logical Leaps
Logically, we have to remember that even if a similarity exists between Jesus and a pagan god (and it doesn’t run into the issues mentioned above), even that doesn’t automatically mean they are related, copied, or influenced. A connection must be proven. Religions, by nature, will have some general things in common, like beliefs about an afterlife. Further, many religions have some sort of tradition with a common meal. Similarity doesn’t prove dependence.

Which is my point exactly, both for the Jesus stories and the flood stories. Yes very funny indeed. LMAO!

keppler:
I'm afraid you're not conversant with the pagan copycat theories. I like that you want to use such analogy that but it actually reinforces my point if you actually read the theories (scholarly at least).
First, the parallels are not the type of parallels we get with the flood stories where you have a GLOBAL FLOOD with EXACT DETAILS which can be found in all the flood stories. These are what are referred to as PARALLELS and it is best interpreted through the Biblical lens as the survivors passing down the stories through generations, with the dispersal at Babel such that every group went with same story which would definitely get "corrupted" with time as is common with oral traditions.

Your claim that the flood stories have the same exact details is not correct. Even the chart you referenced shows there are several details that do not appear in other flood stories so I don't see why you are making a point of it.

Now to your example, what are referred to parallels are not really parallels as skeptics only try to prove that
1. Jesus never existed
2. The gospels are fraud
3. The stories in the gospels are copied from MANY OTHER gods which are combined in the person of Jesus.
So we have a 180 degrees out of phase of what you are saying. One single event found with variants in several stories against several events found in one single story.

Now to your objection, there are other parallels of alleged virgin birth, son of god etc which all have no evideurnce predating Jesus but after him. And your resurrection is still a form of forcing a Christian term on his story as he did not resurrect in the sense of the word but appeared to rule the underworld. Which reinforces my point that Christianity influenced the later alleged parallels that skeptics have tried to show. Not forgetting what they really want to prove as stated above.

Now, it actually get funny

The Osiris myth has no parallels with virgin birth (except with reference in a matter of speaking to his son Horus) so I can't possibly be talking about that. Osiris was a king and a descent of Ra or Atum the creator (Jesus is said to be the son of god the creator and a king). He was killed by his enemy (Jesus is said to have been crucified under the direction of Satan his enemy). He did resurrect long enough to copulate with Isis and then is said to have become the ruler of the realm of the dead (Jesus resurrected long enough to show himself to his disciples. Jesus isn't on earth right now is he? And the only humans able to get where he is now are dead people is it not?). These were well established before the advent of Christianity so it is funny you are trying very hard to deny the parallels. Very funny indeed.

Anakazo22:
Lol,see this man ok,cry as in how or pain me as in I no understand.you funny shall

Abeg enjoy yersef, life no get duplicate.

Ojolojolop:
Do your maths well, bro

160,000 x 1,000,000 = 160,000,000,000

Iykenuwa:
were you to excited to read where I said the money would flow from riotous clowns like you to those who actually know what to do with it?

The joke is on you, because at the end of the day, the beneficiaries are hardly better off, most anyway.

You do not build an economy by sharing money to lazy clowns like you.

Yes they don't stimulate the economy by listening to empty barrels like you. The US government knew what they were doing when they sent the money out. Bad belle olofofo dummies like you can only open their mouths in bewilderment.

Anakazo22:
When he started with seven members in his church nobody was complaining now the church is in the millions evil people like you are crying, where do you want the multitude to worship in your house abi or under the sun , you are an enemy of the church but there is nothing you can do to stop the growth,we will keep building more mega Churches and infrastructure and you guys will keep wailing and crying.
The university he built not too long is now the best in the country and among the best in Africa and rather than commend him and our government should emulate their standard you are here crying as if he collect money from you to start business

LMFAO! I didn't know this thing is paining you so much. I made a suggestion and you started crying as if I stole your lollipop. Bwahahahahaha!

Iykenuwa:
I will not insult you so people can see who the empty barrel is.

You specifically said the checks were not to stimulate the economy, when in fact it was to stimulate the economy because people would spend it. It is not called a Stimulus Check for nothing so you remain an empty barrel.

meekah:
tell your government to empower 160000 people with 1 million naira each which should be the primary responsibility of the government not the church

Yes we will tell the government. What is a good idea is a good idea no matter who is doing it.

Iykenuwa:
It was to feed, not to boost the economy...your likes would take it to the beer parlour and it will end up in the hands of those who think with their heads and not their stomachs.

LoL! This is how we know those who are empty barrels.

What Is a Stimulus Check?

A stimulus check is a check sent to a taxpayer by the U.S. government. Stimulus checks are intended to stimulate the economy by providing consumers with some spending money. Taxpayers receive this money because it’s intended to boost consumption and drive revenue at retailers and manufacturers, spurring the economy.
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/stimulus-check.asp


Next time know what you are talking about before you make a fool of yourself in public.

Iykenuwa:
Ask any Economist how that would pan out.

Its people like you that believe the Government should just be sharing money.

Do you understanding the meaning of empowerment or do you need to return to primary school?

The USofA just @dashed" its citizens $2000, ask them how it panned out.

keppler:
I wished you had read the link I provided as it answered your objections already. The myth is actually older than the life, death and resurrection of Jesus but the parallels did not emerge until after his death. This was what I maintained that the parallels could still be argued that it came from the life of Jesus. Hence, shared "heritage".
Not funny at the end of the day

What parallels? Osiris died and was resurrected, this is central to the myth. Which other parallels are you referring to?

Oh it is funny, very.

Anakazo22:
That's why I said everyone should face their front see me see trouble o,do your thing make we do our own, when the federal government build national mosque in Abuja nobody complain, using public funds you didn't say they should share the money among poor people,now a man of God is doing his own without government money y'all are complaining, rubbish.
Secondly in the north most of the governors use public fund to build mosque y'all are not complaining and North has the highest number of poor people in this country,why didn't they share the money among the poor, instead of complaining to your corrupt government you are here attacking a genuine man of God doing his business.

The National Mosque was not built with government money.

That a governor builds a place of worship with government funds does not make it right, get that straight.

Glad you know he is doing a business. LMFAO!

spyglaxx:
Ok i understand your situation. You want the people to be given sewing machine and grinding machine that they will immediately sell and use the money to buy the next owanbe cloth.

Your politicians have the custody of the poor man's comonwealth and have been extremely busy empowering them.

What is a good idea is a good idea no matter who is executing it.

Ammishaddai:
Yet you steal from this same God. What a shame

Steal what? LMFAO!

Ayo13945:
I don't have such powers. But Scientists can
theoretically replicate similar feats albeit on
a smaller scale by Using a
Particle Accelerator.

Where has such been done with a particle accelerator?

Anakazo22:
I won't say much, face your front and leave our Jesus alone,and if you are a Muslim go and focus on your Mohammed and Allah Akbar

LoL! Because you don't want Muslims to be the ones to build the empire? LMFAO!

Anakazo22:
Why is it that people like you who don't give a dime in church project are the ones always complaining when churches are executing project,the people who are giving don't complain.
Did oyedepo eat your money or how many winners members are complaining or crying to you that they are eating their money,the church is taking over and you can't do anything or stop the work of God,so you and your kind should keep crying when the project is completed you can still come and cry.

LMFAO! Sure the church is building an empire that your Jesus said he doesn't need. I hear. Bwahahahahaha!

CodeTemplar:
Tellghis trash to the govt. They are the ones in charge of forcefully obtained money from you. The contributors are cool with its use and that makes it a perfectly voluntary and private contribution. Let gov too start empowering people instead of adding more lanes to roads and building schools.

I know you are perfectly fine with building an empire for your soon coming Jesus that doesn't need a N160billion edifice since he has a palace in the sky. And this Jesus will also reward you with a mansion in the sky too, just give your money to the pastor. LMFAO!

spyglaxx:
The contractors have passed through the rigorous stages of apprenticeship to mastery.
They have staffs that will be paid.Their staffs have children that will be fed.
At the end you will still discover that almost 100,000 People will still be paid based on thier skillset and not based on entitlement.

LoL! Who is saying anything about entitlement? Empowering people is way better than paying them a salary. And those contractors or suppliers will not pay their workers what a million naira empowerment will. I repeat 160,000 people empowered will surpass anything those contractors and suppliers will gain or distribute to their workers.

BTW 160,0000 is 10,000 more than the seating capacity of the current auditorium. Think about that.

Anakazo22:
You are not serious,all of you keep wailing and crying,the church is marching on and none of you can stop it,go and complain to your government, you didn't vote for him so let him run the church as God direct.

Yeah your god directed him to build a N160billion ediface that y'all will abandon when Jesus comes. Right. LoL!

Ayo13945:
For the Atheists and the intellectual, the truth
is JESUS had the power to Control Atomic
Particles.

So him changing one substance to another
is scientifically possible given the scientific
principle of transmutation.

The question is: If you had the power to
control Atomic Particles, what will you do
with that power.

Can you reproduce this transmutation?

Ammishaddai:
[s][/s] Another pea-brained comment coming from a dimwited psychopath

Go and have a nice breakfast instead spitting like a cobra on heat. Your god is so weak he needs dimwits like you to defend him. LMFAO!

spyglaxx:
Zero impact. The benefactors would still have returned to thier states of poverty in two weeks.

That building will feed many contractors and many suppliers.

Not if it is properly done. Empowering people is not the same as dashing them money. A million naira in productive capacity for 160,000 people will produce more than what the contractors and suppliers would gain from the project

Ammishaddai:
[s][/s] You are always talking trash. Nothing you've ever said on this forum makes sense

He's made more sense than your vituperations.