₦airaland Forum

OP, I didn't know that I'm a tribalist until the last election. But I discover that I'm better than everyone including you because I'm conscious of it and I'm working on myself.

When you are a tribalist, you won't be able to say the truth. You won't be able to see your flaws and you will be incapable of seeing the strength of others. As a tribalist, you will get to miss the best in life because in my short time on earth, I've realized the best is always cloak or hidden in what you hated or detested. As a tribalist, you tend to miss the best life as to offer.

Please let us all strive to be a better human being.

A politician don't speak this way. You don't speak to your people like this and expect them to clap for you. You don't speak to them like this and expect them to jump for you.

Enough! Let any capable Nigerian contest 2023. Enough of zoning. Convince Nigerians that you are capable of leading this country. Play wise politics. Enough of tribal and religious politics.

No Northerner can be President without the support of the South and no Southerner can be President without the support of the North. So you all have no choice but to work with each other. Walai I'm now loving this part of our constitution.

If the South-East and the South-South decides to support a Northern candidate for 2023, it's their right. It may not be the best decision in a long term but it's a wise decision in a short time.

2023 go sweet die. Please let's get this fact right, The North is not one. PDP made them one by playing the politics of religion. So is the South not one. The South-East and the South-South became one because PDP played the politics of religion.

SouthEastFacts:
If SW doesn't know this by now, then they are not politically analytical.

SE/SS are not hiding it.

If you are wise, you will know how to keep your ace close to your chest till it's time for you to play it.

SouthEastFacts:
Sure. But we already know how it will end.

If PDP succeed in presenting a Northern candidate, I really want to see south-west or Tinubu in action. I want to live history. I want to be able to witness the moves and the checkmating.

SouthEastFacts:
Sorry, there will be no consequences.

We love dramas.

I also love drama........ 2023 go sweet die.

SouthEastFacts:
When we started practicing democracy, you guys were in Oyo bowing to one useless king.

If you guys are really politically astute, you would have known removing Jonathan in 2015 is political mistake.

The SE/SS you insult today, will bury you politically in 2023.

We dey wait.

Best of luck. If you are politically wise, you are not suppose to unveil this now......... Just saying.

BaaleOko:
The SE has been politically loyal, and have always delivered accordingly on that principle. Not the SW that are neither here or here, a whole can of worms was opened in the just concluded Presidential election, and the inconsistent votes that we saw in the SW has definitely marked out the SW as politically unreliable, and has on current basis of repressed but certain sentiments in the North engendered some distrust towards your region.

As a matter of fact, the the SW without knowing it, have politically given the SE a huge lifeline for 2023 presidency, more Northern leaders will be fancying forging alliances with the SE cause bloc votes are guaranteed if they present a running mate from the North for a SS/N or SE/N ticket.

Best of luck. The next four years will be very interesting.

Arysexy:
The greatest Injustice and greed ever in modern Nigerian history is the scheming of Yorubas after having 8 years of d south slot under OBJ, schemed their way to have 8 years VP slot at d detriment of a South South brother and now dreaming of eyeing the presidency come 2023. Heck NO! The treachery of d SW will be their greatest undoing. They call it sophistication but it is what it is, GREED!

We rather let the North continue ruling than allow that. We die together come 2023!

Una never see anything

They worked for it. You all should ask yourself why Igbos don't think they can win the Presidential election in 2023.

SouthEastFacts:
We know the only people being selfish here is the SW.

You have President 8 years, VP 8 years and you want another President for another 8 years.

Is it our fault that the southeast refuse to be politically astute?

What you want to do now is political vindictiveness. Because you all can't win the vote of the north, you are ready to destroy everything. We deh house for una.

SouthEastFacts:
You call it injustice but some people see it as justice.

When you align with the North to remove Jonathan, you were calling it political sophistication but failed to project the effects after Buhari.

While I don't want a Northern President again, but I am sure a lot of people will differ from me.

Please it's a free world. I'm only opening your eyes to the consequences. As I earlier said, we all should get ready for the drama.

SouthEastFacts:
How do you mean?

Care to explain please?

There's one thing that rallies Yoruba together. It's feeling of injustice. Using your scenario, if PDP wins, the north will be in power for 16 years. And you are supporting that and you expect peace in this country. The thing weh una go take your hands cause.

SouthEastFacts:
The North has legitimate claim on PDP ticket and what if the behave like SE in 2014 and refused to field a candidate for PDP National Chairman.

We know Agbaje will gladly pick it

They do. But the reason why there's presidential rotation is simply to forestall a situation whereby the North used his population strength to its advantage. You all want shake that balance for a selfish reason and you expect the West not to use what it has for a selfish reason.

If Rivers goes out of PDP's hand, the implication is that SE will not have any rival for PDP 2023 VP ticket. But we prefer PDP retains that state.

The next four years will be very interesting and educative.

What will Tinubu do knowing this? Get ready to make Tinubu greater than Awolowo.

Niorte:
Why the Southerners make a hell of noise about their plan and move for 2023, their northern counterparts secretly make move that seem to be a goal.

While it is the plan of APC party to zone the presidency to the South in 2023, the northerners are already aligning with PDP who will most likely be giving a level playing field to both Southerners and Northerners especially as the last flag bearer of the party was from the South, in person of Dr Good luck Jonathan.

So why many may think PDP are doing well in the gubernatorial elections, those who understand the dynamism of northern politics know that the northerners are only realigning so as to stand a chance to continue to be relevant even after Buhari leaves office.

If Kano and key states go to PDP who may likely field a Northerner as president, where lies the dream of Tinubu and his Southern cronies who campaigned for Buhari based on 2023 presidency to be zone to the south?

OP, I'm going to tell you five things and allowed you to make inference from it.

1. The headquater of the press is in Lagos.

2. The international port is Lagos.

3. June 12 1993.

4. Buhari re-election.

5. Oil.

The Northerner are students of history. They are not vindictive like una.

Instead of you to learn, you are wailing over a split milk. Can you see what's going on in the north? Can you how political enlighten they are? Can you see how socially aware they are?

For me, it's a defining moment in alot of ways.

I'll give it 45%. At this point, we should start thinking of early voting. Polling unit should be open 2 weeks before elections to decrease the tension and hooliganism that always comes with the election.

DMerciful:
With all Katsina presidents, what do they have? Nothing! Leave Igbos alone!

Why are you now pushing for a Northern President? If you don't want it, please stop being vindictive.

AZeD1:
You are turning logic it's head...

Will a "working system" fall from heaven or will it be put in place by people who refuse to make excuses for corruption and thuggery?

A "working system" starts by calling thuggery what it is and not by making excuses.

God bless you for this beautiful question. We'll get a working when we the people are invested in the electoral system that works for all of us.

Thuggery is already a crime. Being treated as a crime never stop it, rather it has been use as a tool by the politicians to rig. We are not treating the root, we are treating the symptom.

I'm only coming in with a different perspective.

Willed042:
My brother the bitter truth is that Pdp is run on rotational system. as at present, under the pdp constitution, its the turn of the North. that they will continue to fill till a northerner exaust that turn. them fielding a northerner in 2023 si their last joker to win back aso rock... a card the APC played in 2015.

Why did Atiku promise to spend only one term if elected? Oga, if I be una, I'll start working my ass off to start building relationship with other politicians from other tribes.

Or may it's high time we all admit that Igbos are not gifted politically but there should be an exception among you all.

seunfly:
I like the bolded, trained them and direct their passion into positivity. Put this guys in police instead of the frustrated unemployed guys who just want job by all means who will run away at the sight of armed robbers with toy gun.

Thank you for being an open minded person.

Jodesky:
Your education seems to be a total waste.
Hear yourself, "I'm not defending thuggery. I'm defending thugs"
Who engages in thuggery if not thugs? You've embarrassed yourself already and should naturally shut your trap but you keep struggling to explain your foolishness. .......

You can't reason logically and its not your fault, it's just because of your low intellect that you've generously exhibited in the marketplace.

Smh

Na wa o. You are frustrated. If you are not, you won't start ranting like a mad man. You didn't even make one single point.

emeraldknytt:
How about I put it in a more appropriate context.

"I am not defending corruption but I am defending the corrupt"


I am not against your write-up. I have related with this set of people on more than one occasion so I know what you wrote up there is quite true however MT is correct, there is a subtle promotion of thuglife in your text (might not be what you intended to say but it's true.)

I love your analogy. Let me complete it.

Corruption is a symptom of a currupt system not necessarily a corruption by an individual. If we have a working system, curruption will drop to its minimal.

Do you know what I'm doing?

I'm defending the corrupt in order open your eyes to the fact that they are also victims of the society.

I'm defending the thugs in order to make us realize we all can nip this in the bud if we have a working society. They could be an asset instead of of a liability.

I just tend to see good in people.

MT:
Slowly read what you typed in your own words: ""
I'm not defending thuggery......Okayyy, I'm actually defending thugs".

With that, I won't respond further to anything you type on the subject. Thank you.

How is defending promotion? Let me break it down.

You are a fool but you are nice.

Is the statement above promotion of your foolishness?

DMerciful:
Calm down dearie, your blood dey hot. This thread is about yesterday's election and not 2023! Atiku will reclaim his mandate and we can take it from there!

No vex jare. I know deh gbadun all this kindergarten politics..... Because someone was once my enemy, he or she can never be my friend. E dey pepper me for body.

DMerciful:
In as much as we want power we cannot kowtow for anybody. There is no empirical benefits of having power per se

Then what are you doing on this thread? Get the feck off. You think politics na rice and beans.

MT:
You made a categorical statement and your choice of words defended them squarely. Thuggery is indefensible. You are promoting thuggery, maybe your choice of words come up wrongly. You are a lady or a woman, and you should be more in a position to dissuade others from walking the destructive path.

Again, quote where I defended them. As a man, I don't expect you to be dilly dally. If you're sure of yourself, quote where I'm defending them.

DMerciful:
Some decisions are strategic until power is gotten!

That strategy will be taken by the Governors in the South-East because they believe no Northerners will vote them. That's why you all must make a conscious effort to bring down your pride and build relationship before 2023 election. Stop calling them names. Stop seeing yourself better than them.

I'm saying because you are the one going to them. If they are coming to you, it behooves on them to learn your values.

MT:
It was staring you hard in the face in your write up. You even stated it clearly that "you are not defending thuggery but you are defending thugs!!". Needless I say more.

Is stating the fact equals promotion? Will it be okay for me to lie in order to demote them?

oruma19:
hhhhmmmm...i
know u know u are telling lies, but continue. .

Quote the lie.

MT:
Stop making excuses for thuggery. There is no valid reason a sane person should be a thug. Stop promoting and encouraging others to toe the same line like Sugar did.

Quote where I promoted it?