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In all honesty, it will be political suicide for him. The hatred Igbos has for APC no get part 2.

Stingman:
With this massive diference...the Igbos wants Biafra and out of Nigeria..but you said NO...you will be jumping up and down..begging for PYTHON DANCE, so you must continue to live together with people with this huge difference. Please could you explain what this make of you? You are the extensively weak one here, as you want these people who have massive difference from you..and they don't want you...

Don't bring up the flimsy excuse of them leaving your land, as the country is still one today and everyone has the right to reside anywhere, until later!

Yoruba are not holding anybody back. Are we in charge of your Governors, your state assemblies your local governments or your communities. Your battle out of Nigeria begins there. If you can't speak with one voice, how's that our business.

Are we in charge of the Federal government? This should be the last time you begged the Yorubas to let you have your Biafra. Is Yoruba your God? That's laziness on your part. You want others to do the heavy lifting for you. You don't want to die for what you believe but you want Yorubas to die for what you believe. You are not yet ready.

When we were fighting for June 12 did you support us? No you didn't. The Tinubu you all hated was on the forefront of it. Not Igbo leaders.

El Rufai is bold. Question that he was supposed to jump over, he answered it. If not for Godfather would APC have won 2015 and 2019 election. If not for Buhari, would he have had any chance in the 2015 election. He's now forming voltron.

Anyway to answer the question. Can one be a Governor without a godfather. You can but it takes time, money, skills, love and people. You need to start from ground zero. You need to understand human and party administration.

Tinubu didn't begin his journey in 1999. He began long before then. So will anyone who doesn't want to go through the existing party structures. Tinubu earned where he is today so must they.

Predator188:
And the Fulani values cows than human lives..

(9) (5)is full of crap..

You are entitle to your opinion but it's what I observed.

Igbos see money as a tool to control man. Which works most of the time. But the disadvantage is that it doesn't inspire loyalty. But Yoruba sees human as a tool to control money. What do I mean? A yoruba person will lift you up because of what he or she wants to get from you but an Igbo person will rather rather pays you enough to work for him. He won't pay you much for you to compete with him. He will pay you enough to work under him. While a yoruba person will fix you in a place so that you will see him or her as a saviour.

The Ten major differences :

1. Igbos are not gifted in politics but Yorubas are.

2. Igbos have affinity for business but Yorubas don't.

3. Igbos are not natural administrator but Yorubas are.

4. Igbos have eyes to sight opportunity to make money but Yoruba don't.

5. Igbos values money than human but Yoruba values human than money.

6. Igbos demand respect for their wealth but Yoruba demand respect for their services.

7. Igbos are blunt but Yorubas are diplomatic.

8. Igbos are open book but Yorubas are deceptive.

9. Igbos have strength but Yoruba have skills.

10. Igbos are emotional but Yoruba are pragmatic.

Chinablack:
when I was living in cameroon, the government there built so many markets currently dominated by igbos, yet I didn't this kind thing there. since you love babaloja practice, tell the governors in the southwest to build many free markets.any igbo that come the to trade will have no option than abide by the dictate of your babaloja, not when an igbo man use his hard-earned money to acquire land and build market, renting a shop someone will come from somewhere to reap where he did not sow. it won't work please we pay taxes

I hope you know you that there's a different between shop and market, so which market did Igbos buy with their hard earn money in Lagos?

teufelein:
Anakogheri....wich kind allah created dis type of people. di isi oji. Dark Devils.

Olorun a ba ti e je. Welcome to the politics of the West.

Chinablack:
you asked a question, why are igbos not contented with these, answer : they already have market leaders in place elected through their associations, and will never accept leadership of someone who is not a stake holder in the market, someone that didn't pass through electoral process, for example the case of ladipo market, you saw how babaloja there was rejected, those good things you mentioned about babaloja are good, but igbos would like them come from the government not babaloja.

I know you are not interested in just doing business. You are also interested in power. I'm only explaining to those who don't know that what happening and what will happen between Igbos and Yoruba is because of power. The power over Lagos.

Your hunger for power is stirring the hornet nest. So I wish you best of luck in your struggle.

Chinablack:
, when northerners imposed repressive sharia in the north with claims that it was their custom and religion the yorubas were among Nigerians that protested until northerners promised that it will not affect non northerners and Muslims living their region. since yorubas have claimed this repugnant and repressive social practice is their way of life which they love so much, they should make sure it doesn't affect non yorubas living in their region

What's repressive about it? I'll list 5 benefits of that system of government that I saw with my eyes. I was managing a shop that deals with costume jewelries.

1. There was a time we had issues of electricity in Tejuosho, we reported to Iyaoloja, who on our behalf fight for us and within 48 hrs the issue was a resolved.

2. We also had issues of area boys coming to task us and our customers, we reported to Iyaoloja that we are already paying tax so why should we should we pay extra to the area boys. That same week Iyaoloja brought police to arrest them.

3. We had issues of payment of toilet facilities. We are like how can we be paying for toilet facilities when we are already paying for rent. And they explained that if there was no charges, the toilet facilities will be misused. They were still on that issue till I left there.

4. There are other categories of traders who don't have standard shop but space, they complained the money they are paying for space is too much. In
my present the money payed was reduced.

5. We had issues of traders fighting each other and constituting nuisance in the market space. They were reported and their shops were locked up till they pay the require fine.



So why are Igbos not contented with these?

Amumaigwe:
Read the post I replied and observe that you spoke out of point.

I can't see the post you reply.

PrecisionFx:
Which IGBO contested for gubernatorial election in Lagos or SW?

I meant the state and the national assembly that was held the same day as the gubernatorial and the presidential election.

teufelein:
You don't think in an expanded spectrum of logic, what do you think igbo could have done differently in a country where Fools/Criminals manage the affairs of peoples. You know it for sure in an independent Igbo Nation none of the selected fulani stooges acting as governors in igboland would have become one. They're unlettered and criminals, those're the kind of people we ostracise from igboland.
The british Zoo called Nigeria is a CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE!

So this method that's best for Igbos is not applied in the land controlled by people who spoke your language, came out of your village and elected by your people but you have the audacity to make that request in a land controlled by people who don't speak your language, didn't come out of villages or are elected by you.

Can you see how entitled you are?

Amumaigwe:
Igbos will be deemed by your cone head to play politics right only when they vote APC? What will you advice your brothers that foisted on Nigerians a man bereft of ideas that has plunged the country into poverty and endless blood letting?

Do you know that there Yorubas who are more of PDP or neutral than there are of Igbos who are of APC or neutrals but we don't get to hear them because your voice is louder than their's. Is Igbos the only tribe in Lagos? Why can't you leave the politics of Lagos alone?

teufelein:
The fate of Igbos: If Jews and Arabs were in one Federal country, and the Arabs were in charge, Israel will be a desert today.

Look at Israel today, what do you observe? The ways, means and methods, the fulanis or yorubas are implementing in solving problems are not the right methods for igbos. we must seek SEPARATION, each independent nation following its methods.

What is the right method for the Igbos? You know charity begins at home, so I'm expecting that the right method should have began in the Southeast.

PrecisionFx:
IGBOS never cared about ruling Lagos, IGBOS don't even give a fly poo about who rules Nigeria, they only cared about their business. Fashola deported IGBOS from Lagos and that was where the whole wahala started, IGBOS who are well known for voting nationwide started vying for seats and there was a huge turnout by IGBOS in more than 6 local govts (about 30% of Lagos) and for the first time IGBOS won seats in federal reps n house of assembly in Lagos.

No other tribe has a massive population like IGBOS in Lagos n yirubas only look to restrict the igbos and leave other tribes because they are inconsequential.....That's Why Hausa aren't complaining in Lagos.

As long as yorubas try to restrict IGBOS in Lagos, the problem with get worse. U can choose to believe in whatever makes u sleep well @ nyt

Not true. You are interested in power that's why you claimed Lagos is no man land. That's why you contested for seats in the national and gubernatorial election. That's why you are fighting the Iyaoloja system of government. You have make yourself an opposition in Lagos. It's sole reason for the clash of the Yorubas and Igbos. Rather than PDP, it's Igbos that are attacking Tinubu.

No matter how bad Tinubu is, Yoruba will continually choose him because he has the interest of the Yorubas at heart while you don't.

teufelein:
you people are very greedy people, you never had enough of stealing from poor traders/people. how much levies/taxes are enough?

So your definition of greedy is paying tax to government. Is there anywhere in the world that they don't pay tax? Is it only Igbos that are being tax?

fx45:
The power is not for Yorubas to give, it is for the Igbos to take. Politics is a game of numbers and there's nothing any Yoruba can do about it. As long as Nigeria tarries, Igbo Governoship in Lagos issa goal! Give or take, 2039 max

I've always been wondering how come there have never being a major physical clash between the Igbos and the Yorubas but there have been clashes between Yorubas and Hausas despite the Hausas never being daring as the Igbos are with their speeches.

Yesterday I discovered why. Despite how you make mouth online, you can't do it out there in the real world because of those area boys. Just continue making mouth online.

Shikini:
OP, you made so much sense but this Tinubu and his "fanta for face, Coca Cola for leg"
daughter are too greedy.

I sympathize with ignorant tribal jingoists who out of hatred for Ibos are jumping to take sides with the Tinubus.

See, the Ibo traders whom they hate have nothing to lose - absolutely nothing ! .... because at the end of the day,
the heavy taxation paid to Tinubu's family falls back on Lagosians in the form of higher prices.

A 50K phone will be sold at 70k since Tinubu's extortion have to be recouped.
Las Las it's Lagosians that lose!

How much is the money you are being tasked. The last time I worked in a market, it was 100 naira per month. Is it too much to pay as a tax?

PrecisionFx:
Every IGBO political move in Lagos was triggered by yorubas trying to evict the igbos from Lagos.

U guys will understand this wen it is too late, IGBOS don't care about ruling Lagos, but as long as u insult them, try to deport them, tell them that u are accommodating them, create laws to bring down their business......They will start looking for a way to protect themselves and in this case, politics is the answer

But how come other tribes are not complaining of Yoruba being high handed. Igbos are making themselves an open target in a place that they are not majority. Immediately you become a majority, you will be cut down because you are interested in power to further your interest and not the interest of the Yorubas. It will be stupidity on the part of Yorubas to give you that room knowing how critical Lagos is if Nigeria divides.

I've once managed a shop at Tejuosho market, so I've had direct experience on the politics that takes place in a market.

The Iyaolaja of a market is appointed but I discovered that they don't work alone and cannot take decision without the representatives of each section that makes up a market. And I discovered that the representatives of those sections are not necessarily Yorubas and they are selected by the members of each section. Let me break it down.

In Tejuosho, there are the art and craft section and the gold sellers section.... this section is dominated by the Northerners. We have the cotton sellers, the rug sellers and the clothsellers..... The section is dominated by the Igbos. There is no how a Yoruba person will be chosen as their representative in the council of the Iyaolaja.

But what I observe is that the Igbos have issue with it a Yoruba leading the market. They want to lead themselves. And that's my issue with them. In doing that, they are being disrespectful to the norms, tradition and value of the people. They can't blend into their environment. They want to change the laws and tradition of other people because they are majority. That's unfair.

Who's Femi Fani Kayode? Has he ever won any election in his life? On who's behalf is he speaking on?

I'm asking because when he cough, a thread will be open. Not only open o, it will be push it to the front page.

teufelein:
At least you now understand my series of lectures. Yorubas must fight for independent Odua Nation; that's only way to fulfil their destiny.

Oga, nobody will fight for anything on your behalf. If you want out of this country, you will sit down and strategise. If I'm Kanu this is what I'll do.

1. I'll support men who believes in Biafra to contest at the local and state level.

2. If I can't win a local government talkless of a state government, then I don't have the backing of the people.

3. If my people can't vote for people who believes in my dream then I'm not qualify to call myself a leader.

4. I'm not qualify to talk on behalf of my people.

5. People like Tinubu or Obasanjo will not fight on my behalf if I don't have the legal backing of my people.

That's called Politics at its finest . You want people to vote for you, you are not ready to soak up yourself in their culture, their values and their belief system.

Tinubu becoming President will be like magic to some of you.

teufelein:
are you yoruba? humans do not play politics with foools. i'm bonafide israeli.

No wonder! If I had known, I go don waka pass.

So because a Fulani man threatened you, it's over for you.

I'm now respecting the Northerner. They have perfected the psychological warfare. They should even cancel the election since you are all cowards.

OP, you are becoming a nuisance on this platform. I've been observing you since last election.

Shebi you are based in Germany, so what's your problem? If you truly love this country or you think you can do better than those who are there, contest starting from your village.

Esseite:
PDP may not have zoned its VP to the SW because, its opponent was having same combo and it puts the SS and SE in a balance that can not be determined..

Is the SW willing to remain VP candidate to the North in 2023 since the opposition seems to be flying that? And a SW/NE candidate being quite risky with electoral laws and more transparency enacted..

It's just an opinion though...

But you want APC to zone it's presidential ticket to Northeast and Southeast, the same as PDP and put the Southwest in a balance that cannot be determine using your words.

Op, ask yourself this question, how come PDP didn't zone it's Vice-presidential ticket to the Southwest in 2019 despite PDP being strong in the Southwest?

When APC finally zone the presidential ticket to Southwest, they should give it to Tinubu. He's their best option. Any other candidate from the Southwest will never ever be respected. They will say it's Tinubu's boy. Forget his flaws,it's still minute compare to his asset.

FortuneDeGreat:
Did the APC produced Yaradua, APC Last string of relevance might just be between now and 2023, so the north can easily switch as long as their agenda and benefit is concerned.

Presidency returning anytime soon to the south is just a mere illusion.

My point exactly. Those making noise are in opposition. They want to scatter APC by playing divide and rule tactics.

FortuneDeGreat:
It is no longer one person, so many influential northerners have made similar assertions just after the election.

They've reiterated their stance of retaining the power after 2023, and take them unserious to your peril, Tinubu is not what you think he is as far as an average northerner is concerned, you can imagine the excuses they're giving, Tinubu being older than buhari and bla bla bla.

Fear north is not a simple clause but ought to be taken very seriously and God willing we'll all witness politicking process of 2023.

Have it at the back of your mind, Tinubu can never become the president. 2023 will be full of surprises and you'll get amazed.

Then the question you have to ask yourself is can any Northerner be President under APC without the southwest?

So I say bullshit to all their threat. How come they are not targeting Buhari who also supported Lawan?

The problem is not leadership but the people that are being led. A governor didn't perform and he still won his re-election convincingly. He didn't win with a little margin but with a large margin.

So excuse me for not buying into your idea.