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Butterflyleo:
Those who do not acknowledge the existence of God cannot fear, love, serve him.

A good conscience comes from a place of foundational morality in an objective setting.

Atheists claim their morality is subjective so holds no true moral foundations.

For many their conscience is dead and have become reprobate.

The bible is available to you.

I disagree Sir. Do you know one of the greatest commandment of Christ. Love your neighbor as yourself. You don't need to believe in God for you to do that.

realmindz:
Have you respected those who believe in Sango...didnt you curse them? Any other god should be treated with no respect because they make no sense to our lives.... We have been living without them

I do respect it. And I'm urging others to do that. I don't believe in Sango but that doesn't mean everyone who does are evil or are bad.

chemystery:
OK! And you want to attack their truth because you have your own truth or because your own truth is truer than theirs or something? You even made mention in another post that their truth is convincing. Isn't yours convincing enough to make theirs non-convincing?

You have answered the question. The best way to attack their truth is to be more convincing than them. And the best way to be more convincing is to point out the flaws in their own truth. Because it's not the truth, there will be flaw. The truth has no flaw.

realmindz:
so if we have no answer then we should stick to tales of cave men which lacks proof and even anti-modern discoveries.

The best way to explain the existence of man is still through science... Lots of work has been done and we are seeing the progress. But u chose to stick to cave men ideology that the earth was created 2000 years ago and all races of the world began from two people which is anti genetics anti biology anti anything that makes sense.

Which is more sensible, following the people seeking for answers or sticking to ancient ideologies that has no ground

You don't have to stick to it but you have to respect those who do and values it.

Butterflyleo:
Learn to follow the instructions of God and obey them.

You are not wiser than God.

NEVER CAST YOUR PEARLS BEFORE SWINE FOR THEY WILL TRAMPLE IT AND TURN AND REND YOU ARE.

So Atheist are swine? It's well. I like you but we'll have to agree to disagree.

Hopefully, we'll all get to the stage where we'll all judge each other according to the goodness in us and not because of the differences in our ideology or belief.

I've been where you are and it all changes when I discovered 2 friends of mine are Atheists. And they are all good people. Knowing God or not doesn't make you Good. What makes you Good is the fear of God or a good conscience.

Butterflyleo:
Learn to follow the instructions of God and obey them.

You are not wiser than God.

NEVER CAST YOUR PEARLS BEFORE SWINE FOR THEY WILL TRAMPLE IT AND TURN AND REND YOU ARE.

So Atheist are swine? It's well. I like you but we'll have to agree to disagree.

chemystery:
So why will you want to attack the truth?

It's their truth and not the truth. It's their opinion and not the truth.

realmindz:
There are two ways humans react to situations; applying the heart, bowing down to sentiments and emotions and applying the brain by being logical..

The world has been progressive because some chose to think deep and come with logical conclusions....anything that does not make sense will never make sense no matter how much your emotions and sentiments try to convince you.

Religion makes no sense most especially the Bible tales which is anti history, anti science, anti common sense. You may recite your imaginary comforting words all over to reconvince yourself whenever your brain seems to interpret things in a more logical way but that won't change the facts. Religion is bullshit it has always been and it will always be

You forgot one thing. No one has been able to logically explain the existence of man. Not even science. Doesn't that tell you that you can't apply logic to every issues of life.

Working in a church can be a sin if you're not directed by God to do it.

hopefulLandlord:
its never too late to be what you might have been

George Elliot

It's too late but it's not yet late for you to find God.

And these Atheist guys, I'll give it to them are convincing. Thank God, He founded me fast, I would have become an Atheist like them.

Butterflyleo:
Then focus on opening threads that encourage and edify your brethren on the truth and also focus on the comments made by brethren and add incite where necessary but as for the atheists, ignore them and they will keep quiet.

Do you see how quiet the religious section has been lately and how sane it looks?

It is because I and a few others have been putting up this warning for the past week or so and many are adhering.

This is the only way they can be made to either keep quiet or strictly open threads where they alone would entertain themselves alone.

#ignoreAtheists.

I think that's a wrong strategy. Do you know many people became an Atheist because of what they read online. In the upcoming days, one on one Evangelism will become moot because the online Evangelism is taking over. And if you are not ready to attack their truth then you are not ready to expand and you should get ready to lose members to them.

hopefulLandlord:
I was just being facetious lol

But seriously I think its because men tend to value the physical a lot less than they do spiritual while women is the opposite. so dancing isn't the only sign but almost everything church and religiously related. church attendance feature more women as regulars and devoted members than men. Women tend to pray when trouble strikes while men tend to pray less and act more or not even pray at all. Women tend to fall under the anointing than men amongst other signs

So you can be sensible with your comment.

Anyway I agreed. Women are more of an emotional being than men. So we tend to respond to respond faster to stimuli that brings it out.

Butterflyleo:
Wrong. The best form of defence SPIRITUALLY is knowing that you have already conquered and it is because of your victory that you are receiving OPPOSITION.

Nothing the opposition says or does should trigger you to think you are less than who God says you are.

Control your emotions. Lack of control is what they target. They use offensive language and want you to put down your guard and by so doing, respond.

Bridle your tongue for anyone who has taken control of his tongue has taken control of the whole body.

We can no longer be wrong when we were right from the start. Light is light and darkness is darkness. None can be mistaken for the other. The entire world knows the dangers atheists pose because the records from past atheist leaders are there for all to see and that is why atheism is on the decline worldwide.

Ignore them and their attention craving ways along with their disruptive tendencies and you will be alright.

Oga, you are forgetting one thing. It's not about you alone. It's about men that will come across their messages and are not spiritually strong as you.

You must use every opportunity to oppose their thinking except if they are right.

hopefulLandlord:
Because they can't wait for the charade called church program to be over so they can get back to more important issues. they have had sex or know people that are having sex with most of these dancing women, they know the choirmaster has banged most of the dancing choristers and the pastor too has his own hanky-panky

These men just go to church to keep appearances

You are missing one thing. The women ain't also suppose to dance afterall they have also banged those men and the so-called pastors according to your thinking.

Butterflyleo:
LEARN TO KNOW WHEN AN ATHEIST IS IN YOUR MIDST BRETHREN LIKE A WOLF IN SHEEPS CLOTHING.

THERE IS ONE HERE NOW WHOSE MONIKER HAS HOPEFUL IN IT.

IGNORE SUCH A ONE FOR ALL HE WISHES TO DO IS JUMP FROM ONE CHRISTIAN THREAD TO ANOTHER TO MOCK AND RIDICULE.

GIVE HIM A WIDE BERTH AND IGNORE HIM.

BE WATCHFUL BRETHREN AND OBSERVANT. BE QUICK TO HEAR BUT SLOW TO SPEAK.

DO NOT JUST RESPOND TO ANYONE, WATCH THEN RESPOND FOR THE DECEPTIVE AND LIARS HAVE GONE INTO OUR MIDST.

If you don't respond, you are indirectly saying he's right. The best form of defense is offense.

Well I won't blame the leaders that much. The members are not much better. They are more dubious than the leader. What do I mean? Most people who goes to church don't go because of God. They go there because of what they want to get from the church. And when the Church tell them they can't meet their needs, they will become an Atheist.

Abeggi!

Tallesty1:
The topic is falling under the influence of Holy spirits not speaking in tongues(even what they spoke were comprehensible unlike the jargons that most pastors speak). I'm yet to see where it is recorded in the new testament that someone fell down and even become unconscious after receiving the holy spirit. Peter, Paul and other apostles didn't record it.

Oga Ade, falling under the anointing doesn't only mean you have to fall down and be unconscious. It's how the Spirit is moving you not how you think he should move you. And it's not speaking in tongues alone. It's doing things under normal circumstances you won't get to do.

Itusile. OP, You have raised good points. My issue with deliverance programmes is that it doesn't tackle the problem rather it tackle the symptoms. What do I mean? Every source of problems always emanate from the person that needs deliverance. Rather than point the truth to them, they will start telling them it's someone or something that's causing their problem. God will continue helping them.

Prayer is your request to God while wishes is also your request to God. Infact prayer is a wish. It's what you wish not what God wishes.

Tallesty1:
Then how come it did not happen at all in the bible days??

It did. Have you read the act of Apostle where the church started speaking in different tongues when the Present of God came upon them. And do you know what the onlookers said about them. They compared them to men that were drunk.

Tallesty1:
Reminds me of a friend that will fvck all saturday night and still fall on sunday.

The mistake many of you make is failing to test every spirit. That you and others are falling doesn't mean that it is the spirit of God at work. I don't see where people fell like fowls in the bible.

Of course falling doesn't mean you are not going to commit sin the next hour talkless of the next day. Falling under His Presence simply means His grace. It's Him reminding us of it's existence and that we only need to reach out to him.

denkyw:
Mtchwww!! With all these girls wey Bleep Saturday night before coming to church

It doesn't matter. When God truly have your time, it doesn't take him one second to bring you down.

Well No, they shouldn't. Except if they will personally pay for it. It's wrong for them to take from church contribution to protect themselves and their families alone while the congregation are facing the same security challenges.

Rather they should donate the money to the police force for the greater good.

You've not yet been arrested by God. When you are, you will stop all this your voltron forming.

I've severally. In fact, the fastest way for me to know whether God is truly present in a gathering is for me to feel it. If I don't and others around me are falling, they are faking it. Because I'm damn sensitive.

The Drama that will place during the Ekiti election will be unparallel. I'm spending the whole of next weekend on this platform.

She should resign. If she has any integrity left in her, she should resign.

Ebuka2016:
thanks a lot luvmijeje...
things about that dream just stood out...like the fact that It looked so real and other things. I had another terrible dream this night but am not sure if I should say it here

I sent a personal message to you. Please accept it.

What stuck me most from that poster was that she founded a political party. I can even vote for her based on that alone though my vote will be wasted but at least it will encourage her.

i saw myself in a market which i belive to be Nkpor market or Onitsha main market (i live in Onitsha). I was there with two of my friends. We were discussing and as night approached, while pple were still going about the market, this certain man who i belive is rich and influencial showed up and was showing a bunch of pple the stuff on the screen of his phone. The first photo he showed pple was that of a wine which he said cost 6 million naira, which a certain boy had ordered and did not have money to pay. Then he showed pple the picture of the boy in question. This boy is about 20 or 21 yrs of age. Not yet a man. He is a somewhere inbetween being fair and dark complexioned and he had fresh wounds on his face. The wounds were in streght horizontal lines marked across his forehead, jaw and maybe nose. I think its from an animal. So me and my friends saw these and we just waved it off. Then in about 5 mins time, the man brought the boy and made him kneel. He was assisted by some men who simply took orders and did what he commanded. Me and my two friends were watching in awe as well as other pple in the market. It was dark. I would say the time was around 8:11 pm. This boy was looking exhausted and knelt with the fresh wounds on his face dripping blood. They decided to give him food. They brought before him cooked pyton meat with the stew and everything in a plate and asked him to eat, the boy rejected. What the rich man did next shocked me. They brought the pyton from which the meat was collected. It appeared they cooked the pyton in full/whole but only cut the tail to serve to the boy. They made the pyton stand as in the normal position a pyton stays when alive, the body of the pyton was dripping with stew (as per cooked pyton). So the rich man proceeded with a brush, whichever part he ran the brush across, the part came to life before our own very eyes. We stood there watching while a killed cooked pyton was made to come to life again...doing the normal things snakes do and wanting to attack. Then i became afraid and as i made my way out of the scene, up i woke.

I saw myself in a market which i belive to be Nkpor market or Onitsha main market (i live in Onitsha) Signified you're about to unveiled a revelation.

I was there with two of my friends signified the revelation will have great impact on you.

We were discussing and as night approached signified it's a revelation that will have great consequences.

while pple were still going about the market signified it's a revelation that that will shake you to your core.

this certain man who i belive is rich and influencial showed up signified it's a revelation that will move you up the ladder of life.

and was showing a bunch of pple the stuff on the screen of his phone signified it's a revelation that will bring publicity to you.

The first photo he showed pple was that of a wine which he said cost 6 million naira signified it's a revelation that will bring many riches

which a certain boy had ordered and did not have money to pay signified it's a revelation that will shed off your thinking as a man.

Then he showed pple the picture of the boy in question signified it's a revelation that will unveiled the dirt.

This boy is about 20 or 21 yrs of age. Not yet a man signified a revelation that will unveiled a dirt overing over your glory.

He is a somewhere inbetween being fair and dark complexioned and he had fresh wounds on his face signified a revelation that will unveiled whatsoever veil the world has placed over the dirt covering your glory.


The wounds were in streght horizontal lines marked across his forehead, jaw and maybe nose. I think its from an animal signified a dirt so great that you've given up hope of ever being a solution.

So me and my friends saw these and we just waved it off signified it's a dirt you have made peace with.

Then in about 5 mins time, the man brought the boy and made him kneel signified it's a dirt that has bought you so much humiliation.

He was assisted by some men who simply took orders and did what he commanded signified it's a dirt that have sent men away from you.

Me and my two friends were watching in awe as well as other pple in the market signified it's a dirt that has bought so much embarrassment.

I would say the time was around 8:11 pm signified it's time.

This boy was looking exhausted and knelt with the fresh wounds on his face dripping blood signified it's time for every dirt that has covered your glory in shame.

They decided to give him food. They brought before him cooked pyton meat with the stew and everything in a plate and asked him to eat, the boy rejected signified it's time to unveiled every dirt that has covered your glory.

What the rich man did next shocked me. They brought the pyton from which the meat was collected. It appeared they cooked the pyton in full/whole but only cut the tail to serve to the boy signified it's time to take back your glory that has been veiled by dirt.

They made the pyton stand as in the normal position a pyton stays when alive, the body of the pyton was dripping with stew (as per cooked pyton) Signified it's time for you to be empowered to unleash your powers.

So the rich man proceeded with a brush, whichever part he ran the brush across, the part came to life before our own very eyes signified it is time to arise in glory.

We stood there watching while a killed cooked pyton was made to come to life again...doing the normal things snakes do and wanting to attack signified it is time to wield the powers God has given to you upon the world.

Then i became afraid and as i made my way out of the scene, up i woke signified there's no more room for delay. It's time to fulfill your purpose.

The end.

I'll try interpreting the other 2 tomorrow. I'm having a low battery.

. OP, don't mind guy that told you that you dreamt of Python because you read a similar story on this platform.

I'll interprete the Python narration, then if my battery is still strong I'll interprete the others. But if not I'll interprete the others tomorrow.

I love the new faces and fresh blood that are coming out. But my issue with them is that they are too lazy to build up political base but rather want to jump to the top without putting in the effort.

What's wrong with vying for governor or any position in local or State level, if they are that popular? They are wasting their time and money.