Crime › Re: Fagba, Iju-Ishaga Boils As Hausa And Yoruba Clash In Lagos by lx3as(m): 11:30am On Oct 23, 2020 |
Tyche: Continue blaming Kanu If he hadn't made those senseless comments and the call-in of his guys no one would have brought in ethnic colouration because he gave the people at the other side to find a platform to link everything to tribal 'wahala'. |
Crime › Re: Fagba, Iju-Ishaga Boils As Hausa And Yoruba Clash In Lagos by lx3as(m): 11:16am On Oct 23, 2020 |
Redcrafton: ...they are children of Kanu....they bribed the trailer drivers and the hoodlums to kill themselves like they did in Ile Ife and Agility Ketu...
How far will your lame propaganda take you? Painfully you didn't read what I quoted. Coming online to instigate fight between Yorubas and Hausas was what Kanu was doing two nights ago to instigate fight between Igbos and Yorubas to his own ulterior motives. He should have kept quiet rather but you guys see nothing wrong with what he did. |
Crime › Re: Fagba, Iju-Ishaga Boils As Hausa And Yoruba Clash In Lagos by lx3as(m): 11:03am On Oct 23, 2020 |
CLASSMAN: y are u guys like this ,i am presently at iju ishaga round about and its very peaceful stop overheating the situation They are children of Kanu, who's trying hard to cause ethnic trouble but his people will always hail him instead of cautioning him. Many listened to his radio program two nights ago. They're now turning skirmish between Trailers' drivers and hoodlums in Fagba to mean Hausas killing and burning Yorubas stuff. It's sad if we fall for divide and rule of the enemies. We're stronger if we unite and do away with tribalism. Those burning are Nigerians not just one ethnic group and the Yorubas should not fall for these enemies trying hard to make it look like one group has hiding agenda; I blame Kanu anyway. |
Culture › Re: Direct Meaning Of These Yoruba Names by lx3as(op): 9:40am On Oct 23, 2020 |
absoluteSuccess: It sounds similar but very different. Bonu is akin to saying "juju thing" or a child conceived from the help of amulet.
Bolu on its own is a modern Yoruba name and an incomplete sentence, b'oluwatife.
I appreciate bro, we think ajala must be a traveller, it's from the track eulogizing Ajala the traveller that we picked the connection.
Bonu compares with say, fabiyi or ogunbiyi. Obo is Ogun, onIfa is bokono, meaning "people of the juju sand". Thanks. understand better now. |
Culture › Re: Direct Meaning Of These Yoruba Names by lx3as(op): 8:13am On Oct 23, 2020*. Modified: 1:26pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
absoluteSuccess: You are correct and accurate. But there must be a choice at the end or else we won't get to the root of the meaning we seek. We must make a choice.
It's the sense of the word that determine the particular aja that the Yoruba have in mind, hence the interpretation given must have collocation as guide.
That's a step forward. Now observe the way collocation affect the new entry to the table: ajari: aja, fighter, Ori: head. I've not heard that name before.
The collocation (head and fight, fighter) implies that the fighter is the current head in that business. Like the head of fighters.
Now that is the remote validation inaccessible to the interpreter, and the validation of a claim is not the claim itself but consistency of what is claimed with remote check.
Why is aja not whirlwind?
In ajagbe, it's the whirlwind trip. In this case, the name tallied with Yoruba believe system that a man can be taken away by whirlwind and when he comes back, he becomes an Aroni.
But scientifically speaking, the Yoruba are a forest dwelling people, such whirlwind or tornado is not part of the possibilities here.
Then the Yoruba were speaking of a desert home, not here. In that case, they were thinking from a record. You can check through records in whirlwind prone desert culture to validate their claim.
Ajala
It won't make sense if we seek direct meaning of Ajala and insist on fighting as the interpretation of Aja, as found in Ajayi or Ajagbe. The Aja in Ajala is another version of its own.
The reason for this is that every Yoruba concrete noun takes a transitive verb of its own. Ajayi, ijayi; Ajani, Ijani; Idowu, Adowu etc. Ajala, Ijala.
Ijala is the hunters canticle. Ijala, orin ode. Borrowing from my research, Ijala is originally from the hymn book of the hunters. So it's a kind of book.
Ijala is like saying the heading of a line, the first word on a papyrus, the acrophony. I ja la, "the first glyph". It's like the song we sing when we were young, "ja tuntun ja tuntun".
Ajala is by this implication, one who started a new page in the history of his family. May we be an ajala even in our generation, amen.
NB, you can never attempt Yoruba language from the realms of least resistance, it's deep but enjoyable as it leads you through the mase and help you come out wiser.
If I, being Egun can be this fervent about it, I wonder what a Yoruba man can do.
 Wow! Can't just agree less! I so much like your explanation about the name Àjàlá... it's a top top name. Unfortunately, many of us just think it's for someone that travels everywhere... Thanks so much @Absolutesuccess. Please what is the subjective or direct meaning of Bonu in Egun; is it related to Bolu? |
Culture › Re: Direct Meaning Of These Yoruba Names by lx3as(op): 7:03am On Oct 23, 2020*. Modified: 7:26am On Oct 23, 2020 |
absoluteSuccess: Ajayi ogidi olu,
Onikanga ajipon.
Ajayi is archaic or ancient Yoruba way of saying
Current champion.
A (the) ja (fight)er, yi (this) now.
Igbayi a sanwa o, this era will favour us.
Ajani: fought to have.
Ajayi: a ja yi the fighter here.
The current champion. Nice one sir. Some Centra Yoruba dialects' version of Àjàyí is Àjàrí. With the explanation or breakdown of the name Àjàyí above, one now understands better the direct meanings of names like Àjàlá, Àjàṣẹ́, etc However, many still believe that instead of Àjà- prefix meanings 'Fight', it's a form of 'dry storm' or 'fighting or violent wind' since storm is directly translated into 'Iji' and wind into 'Afẹfẹ'. Many would also argue the Àjà to mean up or upstairs. Yoruba is just so deep for the present generation to understand everything and we have fewer Yoruba linguistic historians these days. The language is among the fastest growing with lots of slangs and decaying aspects. We will need to really keep up with it to understand where we're coming from. We're now leaving the old beautiful shorter names for new longer ones. They are all beautiful anyway: names like Alakija, Désíre, etc. |
Culture › Re: Direct Meaning Of These Yoruba Names by lx3as(op): 9:19am On Oct 22, 2020 |
Learn about many things here. Language is culture and a way to the past. |
Culture › Re: Direct Meaning Of These Yoruba Names by lx3as(op): 7:45am On Oct 18, 2020 |
bigfrancis21: Aina seems to be of Egun/Ogu roots, the people in Badagry and their ancestral language is different from Yoruba. I don't think so. Already asked someone from that side but no direct meanings found in theirs and other fon dialects. To them, it's gotten from Yorubas. Some dialects in the SW pronounced it as Ayanna. |
Culture › Re: Direct Meaning Of These Yoruba Names by lx3as(op): 8:00am On Oct 16, 2020*. Modified: 8:18am On Oct 16, 2020 |
absoluteSuccess: You are welcome, you lend a voice on my thread and you equally deserve my attention. Not only that, we learn when we teach.
Could you believe what I learned yesterday on my journey to the island after I rushed to make the post here and left home?
I discovered the altar of the founder of Lagos at Ido. Olofin Atekoye! (toto irumole, eyin t'oba lorisa fun wa o!).
That's one of our greatest ancestors. I just had a glance at the place and as I woke up, my mind went straight to the work of late HAB. Fashinro's perspective on the history of Lagos.
I may make a thread for this.
As to Aina, the umbilical cord is just to symbolize "Atekoye", you know that if you want to be given a medal in the Olympics, you don't stand borogidi like sigidi: you bend isn't it?
Just then the medal hangs on your neck. That's te k'oye a te ko oye
How do I know this is the right interpretation? I've just hinted on HAB fashinro's. It's from the igbe song and iya onitanna is identical to Aina. Her many accolades is what is known as oye, which is like the medal that the umbilical cord represent
Aina, anointed alepo, oloro, iloro
It's a name that the Yoruba brought from their ancestral land. In Yoruba paleography, anytime you come across Orun: don't think of heaven, think of Yoruba ancestors home.
Olumu lotun, olokanran losi, aarin opon ifa ode orun: that place is the center of their universe, but beside it were olumu and olokanran: what planets were that?
Olumu: captors (Egypt) Olokanran (Ekron) center of ifa is in-between this places. So, Ifa began at Sinai and culminated where ekoro would lead as short cut from captors.
Already, we've learned to animate the world of the speakers and leave our times behind. Therefore, Aina is from here: Jerusalem, where leaders are anointed with oil to lead.
Aina could mean a-kii-na: don't beat her, it's not to be touched, untouchable, touch not my anointed. So a stretch of that expression is rooted in the oriki ijesha: lesi o gbodo fowo komo obokun owa.
Aina is identical with erelu in ijesha. My final take, Aina in Egun means iyaloja: that in Yoruba is the osin, the Matriarch of the Yoruba civilization.
It's a good name from our common heritage. Thanks so much, my brother. You've really done so much in interpreting our names, language and our divination literary corpus of Odu Ifá. This opens our eyes to the past and connect us to our beginning as people. I always believe in the idea of using our old dialects, language and names of people, towns and things to reveal much about our past. I agree with your submission of Atẹ̀kóyè of Aina because our culture is deep and very ancient. Unfortunately, we're doing away with some cultural and age-long names once the meanings are difficult to understand. I remembered just now that my mother, a ninety-year-old woman, also has Aina as her middle name. She was born into a royal family and she was pampered and untouchable growing up.I will still ask her if she knows anything about the direct meaning of the name. This agrees very well with 'Akiina'. I strongly support people that want to give our traditional names like Aina, Alọ́, Ọlọfin, Àdó, etc to their children. We don't have to dump our past because of highly dynamic Yoruba language. We need knowledge of these names to be able to explain to whoever asks of their meanings. We're really privileged to have Ifa Corpus. I hope many of us will have the burning desire to learn it. |
Culture › Re: Direct Meaning Of These Yoruba Names by lx3as(op): 10:30pm On Oct 15, 2020*. Modified: 8:07am On Oct 16, 2020 |
absoluteSuccess: Bro,
You are keen about something very vital. But as you can see, there are very few Yoruba intellectuals on this board, you can count them on your fingers.
The fake Yoruba abounds and they are always lurking around to destroy every fine inputs of the true intellectuals. Of course they often pretends to know better with ad hoc facts.
Albeit you won't catch them on a thread like this to exercise their acclaimed expertise except on threads with great opportunities for divide and rule.
Let me break up the meaning of jegede as that seems easier.
Anyone else can do the rest.
Jegede: synonyms: a[la]gemo, alonge: etymological connection with the target is the etymon, "ge". The stand alone value of this is perch.
Alagemo (A, one who, ge, makes tentative contact on, mo, child.
Alonge. (A, one who, lo, settled down quietly, nge, on contact with a supporting surface.
Now we can animate the maker of Jegede.
Jegede means je-ge-de: that is, jeje-gige-ide. What is concealed in this sentence is very simple: Calmness adorns copper. Ge in the middle of the sentence refers to intricate adornment.
We can now paraphrase the name as meaning jeje ni gige ide.
The name is instructive to an audience that "utter calmness transforms copper to jewellery". Compare Yoruba for blacksmith: a gbe de, meaning "a carver of copper".
Using soldering iron require calm attentiveness, just as much as putting pearl on copper with less precision tool as of old, this is something similar to the idea expounded in the name Jegede.
A good name can only comes from great thinkers. Wow! Never heard this before; we're learning everyday. Just as you've said, we now believe more in divide and rule, unnecessary argument on intellectual researches and findings about our past. Wish we could pay more attention to our culture, language and even the traditional names. We need to bring out meanings of those names that we still have around but present generation don't know the direct meanings, not the reasons for bearing them. Thanks so much for bringing Jegede's meaning to limelight. There is this expectant mother that really loves the name, Àìná. I could only explain that it's the female version of Òjó(some also give it to male child). She just want to name her child Aina(whether the child has the cord around her neck or not); she needs its direct meaning. Hope to still find someone to explain it just as you've done justice to that of Jegede. Thanks once more. |
Culture › Re: Direct Meaning Of These Yoruba Names by lx3as(op): 8:46am On Oct 13, 2020 |
It seems people have have little knowledge about the meanings of these names. |
Politics › Re: Ondo 2020 Governorship Election Updates, Results And Live Monitoring by lx3as(m): 5:11pm On Oct 11, 2020 |
SUFFERInSMILIIN: There are about 1.8 million registered voters. APC 292,830 PDP 195,791 ZLP 69,120 Total votes is less than 550,000 out of 1.8 million registered voters very disappointing turnout This is it: APC: 292,830 PDP: 195,791 ZLP: 69,127 Total Accredited Votes: 595,213 Rejected Votes: 18,448 Total Valid Votes: 572,756 Total Votes Cast: 591,193 |
Politics › Re: Ondo 2020 Governorship Election Updates, Results And Live Monitoring by lx3as(m): 6:15pm On Oct 10, 2020 |
PaschalPM: If PDP wia to still be incharge by now Nigeria would hv bin worse dan Venuezella. All they know best is to " share the money" PDP conducted the worst elections in Nigeria history. A whole president and commander-in-chief would be telling Inec staff, his armed forces that the coming election would be 'Do or Die'. what do you expect from his boys? Rigging by all means. A normal person would weep for Nigeria during 2013, 2014 elections in Osun and Ekiti states. |
Politics › Re: Ondo 2020 Governorship Election Updates, Results And Live Monitoring by lx3as(m): 5:06pm On Oct 10, 2020 |
fergie001: 4:19pm
Akoko Southwest
Ward 1
PU 009
APC 132
PDP 61
4:37pm
Akure South LGA Ward 09 Oke Aro/Uro II PU 012 - Aquinas -
Aquinas College
APC 44
PDP 140
4:10 PM.
PU 008, Ward 03, Ajue, Odigbo LGA.
APC -- 147
PDP -- 68
ZLP -- 22
4: 40 Pam.
PU 014, Ward 08, Odigbo, Odigbo LGA.
APC -- 171
PDP -- 56
ZLP -- 41
4:40PM.
PU 001, Ward 08, Odigbo, Odigbo LGA.
APC -- 107
PDP -- 103
ZLP -- 38
4: 40 PM .
PU 007, Ward 08, Odigbo, Odigbo LGA.
APC -- 108
PDP -- 84
ZLP -- 22
4: pm
Owo LGA
IJEBU 11
Ward 05
PU 006
A - 1
AAC - 2
ADC - 3
ADP - 9
APC - 413
APGA - 1
LP - 1
SDP - 1
PGA - 1
PDP - 12
YPP - 1 Ọwọ will definitely cancel whatever margin Jegede has over Aketi in Akure.
Congratulations in advance Mr Akeredolu. |
Politics › Re: Ondo 2020 Governorship Election Updates, Results And Live Monitoring by lx3as(m): 4:42pm On Oct 10, 2020 |
garfield1: Aketi is clearing idanre that I thought he will struggle.he is doing well in ifedore He is surprisingly doing well in Akure north and Ondo West against people's forecast of Jegede winning well in these LGAs. |
Politics › Re: Ondo 2020 Governorship Election Updates, Results And Live Monitoring by lx3as(m): 4:33pm On Oct 10, 2020 |
FlordFlorez: Not Akoko but Owo in Ipele! Yes, Ipele is in Ọwọ lga. Thanks for the correction. |
Politics › Re: Ondo 2020 Governorship Election Updates, Results And Live Monitoring by lx3as(m): 4:23pm On Oct 10, 2020 |
Reader530: Akoko is Apc strong hold ooo and pdp is good there....there is still hope for Jegede Jegede's mother is from Ondo north just as Akeredolu's mother is from Ondo south. |
Culture › Re: Direct Meaning Of These Yoruba Names by lx3as(op): 12:07pm On Oct 10, 2020 |
Alba3: It's difficult for present people to know direct meanings of many of the above names.
I will only explain 'Alaba'. It has Semitic or Latin Origin, where it's known as 'Alba'. Alba is a "unisex" given name of Latin origin meaning "white" or pearl. In Spanish and Italian the name means sunrise or "dawn".
Ala in Yoruba means white, bright, purity or dawn. Alaba Ọlọbẹ Idẹ (one with bright bronze knife); exactly the way the dawn opens brightly from the east every morning.
In Semitic or Arabic, the name Ala means Excellence, Praise, Eleevation, Saint, etc. Ala prefix is used in most praise names of the Yorubas.
Direct meanings of the fourth child of the twins, Alaba is actually beautiful and the direct meaning is in Semitic or Latin. It's Yoruba's version of Alba. It also means pearl - a gem, fringe or border (the last of the special children) A wonderful submission. Thanks. Anything about Idowu, Aina and others? |
Politics › Re: 9 Prosperous States In Nigeria Vs 12 Highly Miserable States - Bismarck Rewane by lx3as(m): 4:43pm On Oct 08, 2020*. Modified: 11:38pm On Oct 08, 2020 |
winterfell007: Kano cannot be ranked as more prosperous than the other states highlighted. Kano is just a state that at has high population rates with a huge majority of which fall below the poverty line . The population of Kano is huge liability to the government and Nigeria at large hence the high rate of Almajiri It's very funny that Nigerians are emotional about everything. They are comparing state like Osun, Ekiti, etc with others like kano, Enugu, etc based on allocations from fg and population, etc. They forgot that these people have majority of their people in the middle class based on about 90% educated people from time immemorial. In Ekiti for instance, there's a well equipped government hospital with ambulance for about 6,000 people and spread to every breath of the state. Irepodun/Ifelodun LGA alone has about 34 government secondary schools, tap water in all the communities, good access roads and about 10 banks. One would find almost the same in all the LGAs not only in the capital. The same applies to other states like Osun, Kwara( except Kwara north). Many of these states they are comparing, you can't find up to 10 government Secondary school in some LGAs, 1 or 2 health centres without personnel, tap water is a pipe dream, no bank anywhere except in state capital or in one other town. In the entire Enugu, you only find bank in Nsukka, Enugu town and suburbs and 1 in orji river. In Ebonyi, one only find bank in Abakaliki and Afikpo. The population of Almajiri in kano alone will be very close to the entire population of Ekiti, and yet some believe it's more prosperous because of few rich, market and one big city. The SW governments are more people oriented and the people always more conscious about governance and collectivism. Others think more about individual richness in the midst of poor majority; with government doing nothing than fix roads in few places, and more decorations in the capital city without water or other social amenities. Corpers are the main teachers in these states. Bismarck is from Delta State, I don't see any bias in his submission. The problem I see with the SW is large civil service in the States. However majority of the people are into personal businesses, food and cash crops farming, etc. |
Car Talk › Re: The Official Car Comparison/Recommendation Thread by lx3as(m): 3:14pm On Oct 08, 2020 |
dadabashua1: its actually the other way round after the race Sir, the accord came first and the Mazda last.. Wow! my bad; didn't even complete the video before my poor judgement! |
Car Talk › Re: The Official Car Comparison/Recommendation Thread by lx3as(m): 5:57am On Oct 08, 2020 |
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Politics › Re: Who Is Your Best Nigerian Leader Since 1960? by lx3as(m): 2:20pm On Oct 01, 2020 |
Honestly, no one.
Until we have one that is ready to bring everybody to agree on what each and every entity wants. Give us true federalism/confederalism, new construction and restructure the country to something similar to what we used to have before 1966. |
Politics › Re: Twelve Most Peaceful And Friendly States In Nigeria According To Political Zones by lx3as(m): 4:54am On Oct 01, 2020 |
My choice:
Kebbi - NW
Gombe - NE
Kwara - NC
Ekiti - SW
Enugu - SE
Akwa Ibom - SS |
Culture › Re: Ooni Of Ife Welcomes First Son by lx3as(m): 12:12pm On Sep 30, 2020 |
longetivity: The heir to our Throne Wow! Even as he's still in Ọlọjọ seclusion. Congratulations our dear Oòni. Wish you and wife continued blessings. |
Culture › Re: Direct Meaning Of These Yoruba Names by lx3as(op): 9:49pm On Sep 25, 2020 |
Where are the Yoruba language/traditions experts? |
Culture › Direct Meaning Of These Yoruba Names by lx3as(op): 4:28pm On Sep 25, 2020*. Modified: 7:20am On Oct 16, 2020 |
Aina is one of the most beautiful Yoruba names I so much love the sound. I know that it's given to female child with the cord round her neck during birth just like 'Ojo' for male.
I also know that Idowu (Ògbo) and Alaba (Pàárì Ọlọ́bẹ Idẹ) are also third and fourth names given to children born after the birth of twins (Taiye/Taye/Taiwo and Kehinde). One can easily interpret the twins' names but not Idowu or Alaba. I know 'Ala' to mean Purity, white, creation, to open, to own, and praise, in names like: Àlàkẹ́, Alabi, Àlàdé, Aládé (to own a crown), etc. One can easily understand the direct meanings of these names.
However, I will like to know the direct meanings of the following names relating them to Yoruba language not their subjective meanings or panegyrics...
Aina
Ojo
Idowu
Alaba
Àjàyí
Jegede, etc.
You can add others. Thank you. |
Car Talk › Re: The Official Car Comparison/Recommendation Thread by lx3as(m): 5:57am On Sep 25, 2020 |
LudaChriz: Good morning house!
Pls I want to know the difference between Toyota Camry 2003/2004 and 2005/2006 models. Which is more reliable and have better fuel efficient?
Also, I want to know the pros and cons of V6 engine (3.0) and 4 cylinder (2.4) engine of this Camry. Which will you advice as my first car?
Your response will be appreciated The Grill and Tale lights of the 2003/04 and 2005/06 are different. Also middle headrest for the back seat in the 05/06. All of them are reliable once you take care of them but the 2005/06 is more fuel efficient. The 2.4 engine is more fuel efficient and popular than the 3.0. The 3.0 is stronger and nice to drive but you will need good technician to handle it. |
Politics › Re: Edo 2020 Governorship Election Updates, Results And Live Monitoring by lx3as(m): 7:40am On Sep 19, 2020 |
The best person as Edos want it will emerge whatever the anticipation of the outsiders. |
Politics › Re: “i’m Finally Free From Captivity” – Ffk’s Wife Breaks Silence by lx3as(m): 4:32pm On Sep 18, 2020*. Modified: 8:32pm On Sep 18, 2020 |
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Culture › Re: Kinglist Of Yoruba Obas and their rankings by lx3as(m): 1:00pm On Sep 15, 2020 |
Etinosa1234: Insecure soul... I thought u said u dont respond to Benin tales again... See as u contradict ur self... Its ur insecurity that's making u to jump back on the thread after saying u won't respond
By the way have u seen me argue abt Ogun,ayelala and the likes... U are clearly a confused insecure soul... Cry harder... 
The truth pains... See tears in Maximum quality Boy, who is the first Oba of Bini? What is Ekiokpagha treaty? What is the meaning of Ogun? When you can respond to this in detail with fact, I can school you a little; I don't normally respond to kid like you. |
Culture › Re: Kinglist Of Yoruba Obas and their rankings by lx3as(m): 8:16am On Sep 15, 2020 |
Etrusen: haha!!! you take am easy na I'm cool, bro! However, it would be nice if you all meet and agree on one story before you confront TAO11 that has been giving intelligent responses and great submissions. I believe she spares from her precious time to respond for posterity. |
Culture › Re: Kinglist Of Yoruba Obas and their rankings by lx3as(m): 8:02am On Sep 15, 2020*. Modified: 8:29am On Sep 15, 2020 |
Etinosa1234: Omo see tears.... How did u expect a state with no standing army to ward off invaders...... Are u not foolish like this.... I rather be obsessed with the Igbos and their fine gals than to be obsessed with Yoruba ...
See speech just because I call am insecure Weil on Mr Igodo! Your tales by moonlight is becoming so irrelevant as you and your ilks are confused and can't even agree on one beer parlour's tales you call Bini history... If I asked you now, who is the first oba of Bini? or what do you know of Ekiokpagha treaty or the meanings of Ogun, Aiyelala, Umole, etc you don't know! And you call yourself Bini historian? |