GeneralJ:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgH_WmRa7Cw this is the "beautiful" sahahar, God forbid, dirty person

this woman below is also a ugly dirty person, right? There are all different kinds of people in the world.Just because you don't have the empathy or knowledge to understand their situation doesn't mean you should make them targets for condemnation and persecution. Miss sahara is beautiful to me.
[img]http://wefly2.files./2013/06/missiowa13.jpg?w=200&h=300[/img]

THUNDER4real: why don't you re-phrase your question: what about if you fall in lust with someone else while you are married?
N.B; what many of you call love is just an emotional feeling which will wear out with time.

I completely agree with you here. People confuse lust(or crush) with love.
Imagine what d world would look like if people just followed the dictates of their lustful/crushy feelings. There will be tons of murders, heinous crime, suicides, battery etc all based on selfish desires mistaken as "love" and whatnot. I can't even imagine.
That's what people don't understand. love is a verb. It is an action word. you love by your actions. That's why love is not for the irresponsible or immature.

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/johnmayer/loveisaverb.html

THUNDER4real: Do you think we are in court? or do you think we are in Nationa Assembly? its good to challenge facts but the problem is when you are confused and still you re challenging facts. .

arguing with sagamite is like arguing with a 4 yr old.
good luck!!

delishpot:
Well, men and religion defined it. The man is the breadwinner the woman his assistant and planner and caregiver and lover etc. That was what men like you said in those days when you make your daughters marry your friends. you tell her mazi dike can take good care of you and the poor girl will say but papa you know I love obinna? papa will say what has that palmwine tapper got to offer you? See our men, dads, uncles implanted it in our heads to marry who can take care of us. Now, that word "Care" is relative. so, look for a woman whose deffinition of care suits your pocket.
Why is it easy for men to remember bible when they say wife be submissive to husband but cry when woman excercise her own chapter of the bible husbands provide for your wife? Lol.
A woman has the right to choose without guys crying foul. I may choose to marry a shoe maker or taxi driver na my choice I may as well choose to marry a banker, lawyer or doctor na my choice.
World people if a woman marry into wealth una go cry. if a woman marries a poor guy you people will talk, if she marries a cool guy you people will say she cooked efo for him, if she marries an askari alagidi you guys will say what was she thinking!
All in all sha, i think men just set rules that favour them. When you guys become rich you will be the ones asking a young woman you want to date or marry what her poor bobo is offering her.
Well, God is in control not every girl marries a rich man and so many average guys get married almost every weekend. So, instead of crying for a woman who doesnt fancy you, go look for a woman that accepts you just the way you are. There is someone for everyone.
Dont take my post personal, na vission 2015 round table conference be this. How e go better for men wey want to marry fine fine babes

GBAM!! Your post is very on point.
Men want to maintain their title as "head of household" and breadwinner
so why complain when the woman wants a rich man breadwinner

at the end of the day, even poor men can get married, just stop chasing d dream of finding a beautiful wife. very simple. poor men and ugly women need love too.
beauty and wealth being subjective terms of course.

Lilimax:


Why not leave yourself the way God created you .
When He made you, there was no mistake and he called you BEAUTIFUL !

so if you were born without legs and you have an opportunity to go for surgery to get legs, you will refuse it?

What a transgendered person does is really none of anyone's business. Why should she be jailed because of that?
so everyone who has surgery should now be jailed because they are altering "God's creation"?

All these stupid arguments/laws in the name of "God" or "religion" is what is keeping us backwards. What next, we turn into a sharia state? ban alcohol and jail people for drinking alcohol or smoking?

also, should women start getting jailed for using relaxers and bleaching creams? for altering their God given appearance?

holier-than-thou folks annoy me.

What we need is education. To learn more about what transgendered means. I am lucky to have met transgendered persons before and I can understand why they go for surgery. It's like being a woman and stuck in a man's body.Or being a man and stuck in a woman's body. It's a medical condition and has to do with hormones. I know all you religious folks will start talking about demons and deliverance. but we are not in stone age guys. burning of witches and all these"demon" talk is so 13th century. we are in 2013 for christsake (pun unintended).

a child born with birth defects for example is a medical condition in developed part of the world. in naija, it becomes a religious/demonic/sin issue. na wa

Mujah1deen: ^ stop being nasty

your username is Mujah1deen.

Your signature reads thus: "Ash-hadu an laa ilaaha illallah Wa ash-hadu anna Muhammadanrasulullah
If only all my Nigerian brothers could see the beauty of Islam and embrace it .The "Islamization" of Nigeria is a task that must be done. Allahu Akbar"

Should I laugh or cry?
hahahaha I choose to laugh.

I hope you are not a boko haram member sha.

Sagamite:

As Nigeria matches into civilisation and modernity, they will avoid all the errors the West made while trying to do that match by force.

hahhahaha is Nigeria marching forward into civilization or backwards into savagery? FACT and EVIDENCE shows otherwise.
besides, persecuting homosexuals as "deviant" behavior is ridiculous considering all the deviant behaviors that exist in Nigeria. I guess deviancy is only acceptable (ooppps. I meant 'normal' ) when straight men do it. It all boils down to the idea that only a straight man's desires should be legitimized by society. Why not go plug cameras into bedrooms and hotels to sentence a man to death everytime he has thr[size=1pt].[/size]eesome sex. tell me about sexu.al deviance. You wonder why polygamy has not yet been made illegal by law in naija. I can't think of anything more barbaric than polygamy. Besides, of course, all these old men I see married to young women. I guess that is also deviant oops I mean normal behavior.

but again, if the individuals involved are consenting adults with freedom of choice then what's my business, or your business?
I mention freedom of choice because guess what? trafficked humans exist and guess what? they're 99% women and chidren and probably even homosexuals. All these househelps being r.aped by their guardians also may not have freedom of choice even when they are of adult age.Most victims of r.ape do not report it for this same reason. Again, it all boils down to tyranny of heterosexual male in society. This is changing. Thank God for that.

Last point: what's one's business with what others do with their lives when they are not affecting your property or personal space? Or complaining to you? It is one thing to consider an act immoral [i can consider a[size=1pt].[/size]nal sex,polygamy,po[size=1pt].[/size]rn, fornication(s.ex before marriage) etc to be sex.ually immoral] but another thing to feel entitled to a right to sentence others to condemnation for such acts. ex. women used to be condemned and punished for not being "virgins" before marriage. That sense of entitlement to condemn others (usually a less powerful group/minority in society)to punishment and suffering based on your own personal opinions comes from a place of unchecked power. Unearned heterosexual male power in society. and with power comes responsibility a responsibility to choose civility over barbarism.

Besides, unless you are a secret gay yourself then that will be d only way to explain your obdurate obsession.
The most outwardly homophobic characters in written/recorded history have been exposed to be secretly gay or bisexual.There is a reason behind that.

2sa2: bery104 and lynk106 are one and the same person, the line of argument and tone reveals that.

rotflmao. So does that mean that you and Sagamite are one and the same person since your line of argument and tone reveals that?

dBard:

One thing 've discovered is..u interact wit someone f quite long n u will find out u dont notice their looks height etc anymore. Their character overshadows all that.
..n yes, I ve dated n bin close friends wit girls not considered facially attractive..its no skin off my teeth.

yea... there are tons of women who date men for their character as well.

I am just making the simple argument that the value men place on looks is equal to the value women place on money.
in the end, all is vanity. I agree with u.

dBard:
Are u going to leave a good, intelligent man that can make u happy but is a carpenter cos that is his chosen vocation just cos of class n all ??
Ur happiness in life is far more important..

Are you going to leave a good, intelligent woman that can make you happy but she's very ugly cos that's how God made her. all just cos of looks n all?
ur happiness in life is far more important..

hahaha nice thread.
Most men dream of a beautiful woman; Most women dream of a rich man. ... it's very simple.
even poor men dream of beautiful wife. Just as ugly women dream of rich husband. I don't know why we make it a bad thing for a woman to want a rich man whereas it is seen as a good thing for a man to want a beautiful wife. rubbish.
As a woman, I am crying FOUL.

anselm791: All you've written here is how life's hard and unfair to men, I mean with the day dreaming, working hard like P square, paying for sex while all the women have to do is to be hot? Unless you were once a woman, you shouldn't be writing poo about what you don't know poo about.

Do you think it is easy work to be sewing weaves, bleaching skin, and doing all sorts of things women do to look hot? Skin bleaching for example is very dangerous to health. Women risk their health to look hot for men!
and when they start to get older, they have to do more to keep up and compete with the younger girls. It is hard work.

beautiful couple. HML
[img]http://3.bp..com/-xV1urajZqP0/Uok2oNPKb1I/AAAAAAACNpY/zb6Xk1qCRp0/s1600/BY6ue6rIQAA7PA-.jpg+large.jpg[/img]

I don't see anything too lavish or extravagant in these pics. The wedding simply looks elegant that's all.
They are both wearing elegant traditional hausa/fulani clothing etc
What I see is just plain envy and jealousy from the male posters on here.

The couple look lovely. They fit each other. He has money so he could have gone and find an exotic oyinbo or arab woman to marry if he wished. Instead,he picked a woman that resemble his mother. that's all. What's with the envy. You too go and find a woman that resemble your mother and marry her.

[img]http://www.nairaland.com/attachments/959916_Sani-Abacha-and-wife_jpg3e234aa08349d890cbb236dc7b7b2dfb[/img]www.nairaland.com/attachments/959917_Abachas_jpg987a09317d7053ff35e3de574c852613

In the late 60s through the 70s and earlier part of the 80s, marriage was seen as what a man and a woman go into for the rest of their lives; it was very odd to hear of separation and divorce.
. I cannot recall gay being associated with homosexuality as a synonym.

abeg go and sit down.
Have you ever heard of something called POLYGAMOUS MARRIAGE? CHILD MARRIAGE? ARRANGED MARRIAGE? ABUSIVE MARRIAGE ETC

see as he is pretending as if marriage has always been the same happy perfect cookie-cutter christian activity between one man and one woman. 1980s ko, 2050 ni. Did Fela and his harem of 30 wives exist before 1980? abi you want to pretend as if you did not know that happened in the 90s.
Marriage has existed even before christianity existed. read your bible well.

Marriage will continue to exist for a long time in various forms. Look at him preteding as if he has never heard of a separated couple before. Just because they don't call themselves divorced doesn't mean they did not separate and find new wives/husbands even if they move to a different state to do it. The only difference is that men used to do it (a man will leave his wife and go and find another wife) but now, women can do it too. women are free to re-marry as well.

Just as we now have women pastors and preachers etc. I see you mention catholic church. oh I forgot, catholic church still bans women from preaching. Catholic church also ban people from using condoms.

Last time I checked, Mary the mother of Jesus was a young girl. that makes her marriage to Joseph qualify as CHILD MARRIAGE.
It will be considered a crime today in 2013 in many parts of the world (except maybe middle east)!!

Times change. live with it!!
abi we should also still be killing twins?


each person should define marriage for himself/herself jare.

maybe we need a eugenics movement in Nigeria. sterilize and stuff in an incendiary,all persons with below 60 point IQ like this fool ^. Then maybe we'll see a measure of progress for the country.
Africa's is a case of too many dolts roaming around. witchcraft causing cancer, shower curing AIDS. R[size=1pt].[/size]ape curing homosexuality. What won't we hear?

lynk106: well, considering Nigeria was still trying to stone a woman to death in 2002 for adultery. Of course we are always 200 yrs behind developed countries in our barbarism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amina_Lawal

Amina Lawal was offered Asylum to the west. Even south america (brazil) offered her asylum.
Guess what? Look at the title of this topic. Lightbulb moment for you huh. What do you think this topic is about?

This is one of the reasons why women are generally more sympathetic to gay rights (and even lesbian rights) than men. we know what persecution looks like. Or maybe why jews were sympathetic to black rights. they had experienced worse in Europe.

if the woman is not being stoned to death, she is being accused of witchcraft.
when Europe put witchcraft behind them in the stone age, hundreds of years ago, Africa is still clinging to it.
even so called educated politicians (a whole governor) in 2013!!
https://www.nairaland.com/1506229/enugu-gov-family-disowns-first
imagine, a whole governor claiming his wife gave him cancer from witchcraft.
even children are killed in Nigeria for witchcraft. women and children.
Thank God I am in America and THank God for forums like this to spread the world and let people know that Nigeria is still in the stone age.

Sagamite:

You are a person!

The title is good news and something worth celebrating.

I have always been an advocate of that policy. Works fine for me.

good. so why u whining like a dying goat on this thread?
now, hop off.

[img]http://4.bp..com/_IVNeji-ljBk/RsIFQpBdcLI/AAAAAAAAAC0/BXYWnZM-Smc/s320/gay.jpg[/img]
[img]http://nwso.net/wp-content/plugins/php-image-cache/image.php?path=/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Just-gay-marriage.jpg[/img]

well, considering Nigeria was still trying to stone a woman to death in 2002 for adultery. Of course we are always 200 yrs behind developed countries in our barbarism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amina_Lawal

Amina Lawal was offered Asylum to the west. Even south america (brazil) offered her asylum.
Guess what? Look at the title of this topic. Lightbulb moment for you huh. What do you think this topic is about?

maybe we should start lynching these black males for sleeping with white women again
..

of course white males will not be lynched for sleeping with people of other races. Just wrist slap will be enouogh. just as lesbians also are not persecuted as much as their gay counterparts. The logic is very ridiculous hahahahah

Evolution would have been impossible if every evolutionary experiment had been short-circuited by cross-breeding. Nature’s urge toward higher and more complex life forms has demanded that subspecies remain genetically isolated until all possibility of genetic admixture has been removed. Even though such isolation of the various human subspecies from one another has not been of sufficient length to ensure the impossibility of genetic admixture, it has ensured the existence of deep-seated psychological barriers which, under natural conditions, prevent miscegenation.

how dare the media brainwash us to remove the NATURAL "psychological" barriers we were born with!!
the natural psychological racism, homophobia and religious bigotry that is biological and genetically wired.

under natural conditions our biological psychological barriers will prevent miscegenation (sex between people of different races) afterall.

http://bruni.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/03/08/abcs-gay-wednesdays/


well, better turn off your TV.
with popular TV shows like "Modern Family" that features gay couple with an adopted child, Americans will soon be brainwashed to accept gay marriages.
hahaha too late. 14 states (including mine) have already been brainwashed. Gay marriage is legal in my state
we've been brainwashed to see it as NATURAL.
just as the Jews have brainwashed us to see mixed race marriages as natural. with their propaganda movies like "guess who's coming to dinner" hahahahaha
whites and blacks are "cross-breeding" all over america.

weren't you comparing homosexuality to pedophilia?
Should I be the one to tell you that homosexuality used to be compared to interracial mixing less than 60 yrs ago?
sex between people of different races was called "miscegenation" and it was ILLEGAL. They compared interracial relationships to cross-breeding! hahaha They even used scienceto explain why people shouldn't mix races.

Here is what the experts on "Naturalness" have to say:

Of course, miscegenation (sex between people of different races) is not a natural occurrence. Evolution would have been impossible if every evolutionary experiment had been short-circuited by cross-breeding. Nature’s urge toward higher and more complex life forms has demanded that subspecies remain genetically isolated until all possibility of genetic admixture has been removed. Even though such isolation of the various human subspecies from one another has not been of sufficient length to ensure the impossibility of genetic admixture, it has ensured the existence of deep-seated psychological barriers which, under natural conditions, prevent miscegenation.

When these natural conditions are disrupted and distorted, however, unnatural sexual activities such as homosexuality and miscegenation have been known to result. Just as bulls have been known to mount mares, and St. Bernard dogs have tried to mate with Chihuahuas when forced into close confinement and deprived of their natural environment, so Whites have copulated with Negroes in similar circumstances. It is the disruption of the White man’s natural environment and the dehumanization of his society and culture, therefore, which the Jews and their collaborators in the news and entertainment media have consistently worked for in order to encourage racial mixing.
Cause . . .

Cause . . .

This campaign began at least as early as 1967, when 16 U.S. states still had laws against miscegenation. In that year Jewish director/producer Stanley Kramer brought out the film Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner, starring Katherine Hepburn and Spencer Tracy as a couple whose daughter begins an affair with a Negro. The aim of the film was clear and since has been admitted. It was designed as an “educational film” for White Americans: after seeing their on-screen heroes, Tracy and Hepburn, surrendering their White daughter to a Black male, they would feel less compunction in doing the same.


http://www.toqonline.com/blog/miscegenation-the-morality-of-death/

According to these experts, mixed marriages became more common due to brainwashing by jewish media. hahahaha we were "forced" against our wishes to accept mixed race relationships.
same dumb arguments.

"...27 January 2005, the sixtieth anniversary of the liberation of Nazi Germany's death camp at Auschwitz-Birkenau, where a combined total of up to 1.5 million Jews, Roma, Poles, Russians and prisoners of various other nationalities, and homosexuals, were murdered, is not only a major occasion for European citizens to remember and condemn the enormous horror and tragedy of the Holocaust, but also for addressing the disturbing rise in anti-Semitism, and especially anti-Semitic incidents, in Europe, and for learning anew the wider lessons about the dangers of victimising people on the basis of race, ethnic origin, religion, social classification, politics or se.xual orientation...."

Even Hitler knew that mixing races wasn't natural. hence the "clean race" or Aryan.
and guess what, he also didn't think homosexuality was natural. hahaha

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_homosexuals_in_Nazi_Germany_and_the_Holocaust

Upon the rise of Adolf Hitler, gay men and, to a lesser extent, lesbians, were two of the numerous groups targeted by the Nazi Party and were ultimately among Holocaust victims. Beginning in 1933, gay organizations were banned, scholarly books about homosexuality, and sexuality in general, were burned, and homosexuals within the Nazi Party itself were murdered. The Gestapo compiled lists of homosexuals, who were compelled to sexually conform to the "German norm."... It was not until the 1980s that governments began to acknowledge this episode, and not until 2002 that the German government apologized to the gay community.[2] This period still provokes controversy, however. In 2005, the European Parliament adopted a resolution on the Holocaust which included the persecution of homosexuals.

does mixing races sound "natural" to you? FOOL. you are the expert on naturalness so you should know. what a monkey.

rigormortis:
now consider this..........

gay parents have just violated the right of the baby in that he/she wasn't consulted if he/she would like to be under parents that are a deviation from the societal norm

when the baby is older..lets say now a teen and in school...everywhere he/she looks there are hetero sex couples picnicking ...having a nice time and he goes home to two grown men....kissing and shagggging

he goes to school and other kids ridicule his family

he has no sense of father/mother figure..........most kids have a form of healthy Oedipus complex then they outgrow it, but this kid is just left to himself to make sense of what is going on around him in a harsh world.

This is EXACTLY the same kind of stupid arguments they used to make interracial marriages illegal until 1950s. If you hate gays, just come out and say so instead of pretending to "feel bad" for their family or kids.
It is hateful people like you that cause suffering for the poor children. If memory serves me right, there was a cheerios commercial last month that featured a bi-racial child in US and there was an out pour of anger from racist people who didn't want whites mixing with blacks. Imagine how many racist people died of heart attack after Obama (a product of white and black mix) became president.
I pray for the day we will have a gay president in America.

Why are you feigning concern that the children will be ridiculed when it is homophobic people like YOU that are actually the one who will be victimizing these children and ridiculing them. you make no sense.

Those children will grow up and they will be the ones to help promote gay rights in the world.

Washington DC has 10% population LGBT. you must be a fool to believe that gay people cannot picnic with their families in America. One of my own university professors is a married gay with adopted son and they visit campus very frequently. Not everyone in America is a homophobic like you. There are 14 states (and counting) that have already VOTED for gay marriage. Including my state. Illinois joined the list this weekend. Hawaii joined the list 2 weeks ago!! The tide is turning and changing very fast!!

If you live in the south of USA where homophobia and general poverty,illiteracy and intolerance reigns (they were also the last to abolish jim crow laws, anti-miscegenation laws etc. KKK still exists there) then you need to come up to northern USA to see that homosexual relationships is accepted WIDELY. Just as much as interracial relationships. ex.Maine's democrat candidate for Governor has announced that he is gay.
Bill Clinton was first to appoint gays to congress and since then, we have had many gay politicians.
This is one reason I vote democrat/progressive.

Young po413:
I see,but delay is dangerous.
Lol.

lol..