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Perfectbeing:
Did you read it?

I asked a question and you are asking me did I read it? Read what?

[quote author=MuttleyLaff post=69700629]It started when the Holy Spirit overshadowed Mary, at that point onwards, God began to form inside Mary's womb to be born as the Son of God

Meaning the Son never existed aside/with the father before the above happened?

I am colour blind, I am denomination atheistic.
I see everyone as a human being period.
I dont ask who you are, what you are or whatnot

I am not of any denomination either, I can fellowship with any bible believing church.

Perfectbeing:
The only point I'm trying to make here is that there is "God"
The invisible God is God.
The Visible God is God.
The Spirit of God is God.
1x1x1=1.

And to your last statement. The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God. What is the Spirit of God and what is God. Aren't they the same thing.

Now Your last statement is coming true. The Son was begotten, the holy spirit was not begotten.

Perfectbeing:
why not multiplication? Why any other sign? lol
let's not leave that out.

Exactly my reason to ask you to leave that out...lol!

Why trinity, why not 4, 5, 10, 100, or why not 1 as revealed in the scriptures?

MuttleyLaff:
God is already everywhere at anytime

"Is it impossible for God to simultaneously and concurrently
be, God the Father in Heaven
and be the Son of God on earth, at any moment of time?"

No!

[quote author=MuttleyLaff post=69700259]"Is it impossible for God to simultaneously and concurrently be, in Heaven and earth, at any moment of time?"
I purposely asked the above, my earlier question

Though it is the same Person, though the Father and Son are One
but in the status of being Father and being Son, they arent equal
In the status of being Son, the Son is subjected to the Father
The Son is loyal to the will and plan of the Father
The Son does not do what the Son never sees the Father do

Reason the father is all in all and greater than all.

The Holy Spirit is the prime mover in the Godhead
Just like God, it is self existent

Yes! the power of the highest that quickens, that brought into accomplishment.

[quote author=MuttleyLaff post=69698844]

"Is it impossible for God to simultaneously and concurrently be, in Heaven and earth, at any moment of time?"
That above is the question reproduced.
For a question such like that, I was expecting a binary answer

Simultaneously in other words To be everywhere at anytime

And the Spirit of the LORD will rest on him
the Spirit of wisdom and understanding,
the Spirit of counsel and might,
the Spirit of knowledge and the fear of the LORD.
- Isaiah 11:2

(1) Spirit of God,
(2) Spirit that gives extraordinary wisdom,
(3) Spirit that gives extraordinary insight & understanding that provides the ability to execute plans
(4) Spirit that gives advice,
(5) Spirit that gives power,
(6) Spirit of knowledge,
(7) Spirit that produces absolute loyalty to God.

Ok

Thank you. Hmm, kayefi.
Isnt it amazing that, its through of the power of His Holy Spirit, that God does all that He does
(i.e. or its with the help, of the power of the Seven spirits of God that God achieves and fulfils each and all that's in His Mind)

Ok

It is with the power of the Holy Spirit (i.e. the Seven spirits of God) that, God, took it on Himself to be a human being.
So in cahoot with the power of the Holy Spirit (i.e. power of the Seven Spirits of God)
became man in form, in the person of Jesus, the Son of God, God the Son.

I'll enjoy you sharing in details exactly what the point is you were buttressing

I said God can be anywhere at anytime through the power of his holy spirit that fills up or inhabit the worlds even as deep as eternity.

And I you said but on the day of Pentecost we got delivery of the Holy Spirit (i.e. total or complete measure of the Spirit of God)

And went even further to add "the holy spirit filled up the vacuum Jesus left
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Jesus, is the incarnation of God,
the incarnation of the God who is a Spirit,
the incarnation of the God, better known for His Holy Spirit (i.e. the Seven spirits, the total or complete measure of the Spirit of God)

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Abeggy chop knuckle jaare

I kind of prefer the word emanation to use than incarnation my opinion though

Seun needs to add knuckle emoji



The Holy Spirit, just like God is invisible, is of intangible attributes
Even human beings dont send greetings to and/or from attributes

Though part of the Godhead, no one prays to the Holy Spirit.
We pray for the move of the Holy Spirit, pray for the Holy Spirit to stir,
we pray for the Holy Spirit to convict, we pray that the Holy Spirit teach or reveal things
but no one prays to the Holy Spirit
We pray to God the Father, in the name of Jesus Christ, the Son of God

Gbam!

What he's saying, is, God cant be boxed in,
God is a free Spirit, who cant be limited to trinity or be restricted by trinity

Abeggy chop knuckle again jaare

Seun really need to add knuckle emoji

Perfectbeing:
I think the reason you want to see a third throne is that you still think of the Trinity is 3 Persons. The Holy Spirit is not an additional person, but God. They are not 3 separate beings who require separate thrones or place of authority. They're all the same God

Two thrones in revelations, why?

Perfectbeing:
Are you a witness? I don't mean any harm. I just wanna know. Probably I'll know how to explain my views clearly to you

To be frank, I am not a JW. Many always think I am because of my believe.

Perfectbeing:
Did you read my post where I explained why God is called father of our Lord Jesus. It seems you haven't. Please do

At what point did Jesus became the Son of God?

Perfectbeing:
The word Trinity is gotten from two words Tri( three) and unity.

This is probably what you guys think of the Trinity; 1+1+1=3.

This is what I believe the Trinity is; 1x1x1=1.

Why multiplication? Why not any other sign? Lol

Let's just leave that out

Perfectbeing

1a. The God eternal that begets eternal Jesus is God. The one that is begotten is God. Not another God but the very same eternal God.

OK let's do it like this
the God that beget Jesus is God (the father)
The one that is begotten is God (the son)

The point here is that one is father and the other is son. They can't be equal

1b. I think the fact that John 3:16 talks about Jesus being the "ONLY" begotten son of God will answer this question.
I'm sure you knew what I meant though. Probably you didn't though.

In such case reconcile it with the Holy spirit too, since it was not begotten at anytime.

Perfectbeing:
I do not believe the father, son and spirit as three different or separate beings.
I told you earlier that the son is begotten from God. He is not like God. He is God. Same goes for the Holy Spirit.. I view all of them as one.
If any trinitarian believe them as 3 entities that's their believe.. Not mine.
I didn't get all these beliefs from man. I get them from the very Bible we all read..

Good, now does the word "God" in your comment above also means "the father"?

If yes, may be we can replace it with "the father" and see what we arrive at.

[quote author=MuttleyLaff post=69692172]

"Is it impossible for God to simultaneously and concurrently be, in Heaven and earth, at any moment of time?"

You haven't answered the question
and I am not surprised you stylishly didn't answer it

How did I stylishly didn't answer your question?

To answer your question God can be anywhere at anytime through the power of his holy spirit that fills up or inhabit the worlds even as deep as eternity.

Didn't we just said the same thing in different ways or understanding? The bolded part bellow buttress my point.

What is God, before and after God, became God the Father and/or Son of God?

Don't answer, as I'll tell:
God is Spirit, still remains a Spirit.

Usually the patriarchs got measures of the spirit of God to carry out God's work or agenda
but on the day of Pentecost we got delivery of the Holy Spirit (i.e. total or complete measure of the Spirit of God) that Jesus promised will be despatched.

The Holy Spirit filled the vacuum left by Jesus.

So no one is stylishly leaving out the Holy Spirit.
By default, God naturally, is a Spirit.

The truth that will indeed set anyone free, is realising God cannot be pigeonholed into trinity

In other words there is Jesus and there is God who is a spirit or better known as the Holy spirit?

Perfectbeing:
In other words, there's the father and the son but not the Holy Spirit..
Is that what you're saying or am I misinterpreting you?

No! Rather pointing to you that the trinity doctrine was not taught by Christ nor his disciples who were closed to him because it never was.

Perfectbeing:
I think English is our problem here...

We think that eternal and everlasting are two different things..


Let me explain..

Eternal and and everlasting are what in English language called synonyms, i.e words with the same or similar meanings..

Now eternal is something that has no beginning and no end. Something that is beyond time. So is everlasting.

Now we've solved the problem that arises from their meaning.

Now God is said to be an eternal God right? That means he has no beginning or end. He exists out of time right?
Now out of this God comes Jesus. Jesus is God begotten Son according to John 3:16.
This Jesus is called an everlasting Father (I just told us what everlasting means) . It shares the same meaning with eternal. that means he had no beginning (was not created) for end (will never die or cease to exist. He is from God so shares God's eternal qualities with him.. He is God

I believe The bold is also called the Father right? So that we know exactly what you meant.

Perfectbeing:
Before I begin, Do you get the fact that there's no actual throne to begin with? That the throne is figurative?

Now all thrones in revelations are figurative?

Continue I'm all ears. Following

Do you wonder why God who said he wasn't going to share his glory with anybody shared it with Jesus?
I actually don't wonder about it..
Do you know why?
Cos I believe and I'm convinced that Jesus is God and God is Jesus.... And Jesus is the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit is Jesus. And the Holy Spirit is God and God is the Holy Spirit.
So I do not wonder about it. I believe it..
Bless you..

In the name of trinity The father is missing here.

Father, Son, holy spirit = God

Father is not Son
Son is not father
Holy spirit is not father or the Son

And your comment above says another different thing

John 14:16 "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever"

Hmmm!

Perfectbeing:
I said God is eternal. Jesus is begotten from this eternal God. Anything that comes from God is eternal. Anything that comes from God has always been, that is, it has no beginning or ending (that's what eternal means). He didn't just start existing just as God didn't started existing. God has always been so anything from him has always been. Anything from Him is Him. God is infinite.
You said God is "I am.. that He will be what he will be". Why then can't He be Jesus.

1a) Are you in any way making another fresh case here?

Or am I the only one that perceive as if you are separating something out here again.

This God that is eternal that beget eternal Jesus is known as who?

1b) Heavens and the earth are from God, at bold are they also God?

Remember your answer in 1a will really mean a lot in 1b.

Perfectbeing:
I'm kinda confused sir? In the first part I thought you were of the notion is Jesus is God. And at the second part you write another thing.

This Your reply is not clear to me, kindly point out the portion you need clarity.

Perfectbeing

I do not see the Trinity as three persons. I see the Trinity as One. The Father is God. The son is God. The Spirit is God.
If you ask me, "is the Son the Father?" My reply is "the Son is God."
if you ask me, "is the Father the son? " My reply is "the Father is God "
If you ask me "is the Spirit the father or is the Spirit the son? " my reply is "the Spirit is God"

Don't be too fast just yet, you earlier said the father is same person as Jesus the Son.

Sir this very question of "is Jesus the Son God the Father?" has remain pending if not from the beginning of this thread. The Trinity says the father is separate from the Son, son is separate from the holy spirit and vise visa. What you put up there is entirely something else brother. I can finally say you are dodging the question.

You might say "it doesn't make sense."
And I'll reply, "you're probably right. But so is the must powerful, must greatest, must awesome God coming to die for this insignificant soul (myself). Coming to die to the world he created. That does make sense either does it?"

Oh yes! It doesn't make sense.

So tell me brother, does Jesus death on the cross for you, for the whole world make any sense at all? "

Bless you

The Mystery of the kingdom of God has been made manifest even unto the babes.

Don't tie yourself down with man made doctrine please

Selah!

Perfectbeing:
Just saw this..

You said God can be anywhere at anytime through the power of His Holy Spirit. Is 'His ' Holy Spirit 'The' Holy Spirit?

Yes! are you having problem the use with definite articles?

One of the major problems with the Trinity doctrine is that it clouds our understanding of the crucial role of God’s Spirit as the power of God, particularly in the life of a Christian. We must put away false beliefs if we are to come to a correct understanding of the marvelous truth of what the Bible reveals about the Holy Spirit. God’s Spirit, as we’ve seen, is described by an angel as “the power of the Highest” (Luke 1:35). This is the power that made and sustains the universe. And it is the same power we can receive directly from God! Many other scriptures show this connection between the Holy Spirit and God’s power. For example, Paul, we’ve seen as well, reminded Timothy that “God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind” (2 Timothy 1:7). Other scriptures also refer to the Holy Spirit as the power of God (Zechariah 4:6; Micah 3:

Peacefullove:
The same holy spirit that was shared among Moses and other 70 men ? Person indeed


Answer this: if the hplyspirit is a person, Why didn't Jesus include it when he mentioned every personality that exist at Matthew 24:36, he isn't one ? Why don't the holyspirit know the time and day ?

@Perfectbeing, while you are at Peacefullove's questions above

Read this:
Does Matthew 28:19 Prove the Trinity? Matthew 28:19 is a biblical passage sometimes misunderstood with regard to the Trinity doctrine. Jesus is quoted as telling His disciples, “Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in [‘into,’ Greek eis] the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.” Remember the important principle that the Bible interprets the Bible.

What this particular passage shows us is that the process of baptism and entering God’s family involves the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. It is not a description of the nature of God. Notice Acts 2:38: “Then Peter said to them, ‘Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.” After real repentance and being baptized, the example from Scripture is that a minister lays his hands on the repentant person and he or she receives the Holy Spirit directly from God (Acts 8:14-17). Important as it is, baptism alone is not sufficient. We must receive God’s Holy Spirit the seed of eternal life which is imparted by the biblically mandated laying on of hands of one of God’s ministers (Acts 19:1-6). We cannot partake of God’s nature, as mentioned in 2 Peter 1:4, without first being begotten of the Father by the Holy Spirit, which imparts that divine nature. Why are Father, Son and Holy Spirit mentioned in Matthew 28:19? Let us understand. At baptism we enter into a covenant relationship with God the Father. The sacrifice of Jesus Christ, the Son of God, makes that covenant relationship possible. (Of course, through our repentance and baptism we also enter into a relationship with Jesus Christ as our older Brother and head of the Church.) The Holy Spirit is the means by which the Father and Son make all of this possible.

Through out Paul's salutations to the gentiles. Only the father and the Son were mentioned. If God were a Trinity, surely Paul, who was taught directly by the resurrected Jesus Christ (Galatians 1:11-12) and who wrote much of the theological underpinning of the early Church, would have comprehended and taught this concept

The same greeting, with only minor variations, appears in every epistle that bears Paul’s name. Notice how consistent he is in not including the Holy Spirit in his greetings:

Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ (Romans 1:7). Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ (1 Corinthians 1:3).
Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ (2 Corinthians 1:2).
Grace to you and peace from God the Father and our Lord Jesus Christ (Galatians 1:3). Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ (Ephesians 1:2).
Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ (Philippians 1:2).
Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ (Colossians 1:2).
Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ (1 Thessalonians 1:1).
Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ (2 Thessalonians 1:1-2).
Grace, mercy, and peace from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord (1 Timothy 1:2)
Grace, mercy, and peace from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Lord” (2 Timothy 1:2).
Grace, mercy, and peace from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Savior (Titus 1:4).
Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ (Philemon 3).

The Holy Spirit is always left out of these greetings, isn't it unusual if actually the trinity was scriptural or Christ taught it?

Perfectbeing:
The Holy Spirit is not a vague or an impersonal force. He is a person equal in every way with God the Father and God the Son. He is considered to be the third member of the Godhead. Jesus said to His apostles...
"All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age."
God is Father, Son and Holy Spirit. And all the divine attributes ascribed to the Father and the Son are equally ascribed to the Holy Spirit. When a person becomes born again by believing and receiving Jesus Christ, God resides in that person through the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit has intellect, emotion, and will.

A primary role of the Holy Spirit is that He bears "witness" of Jesus Christ. He tells people's hearts about the truth of Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit also acts as a Christian's teacher. He reveals God's will and God's truth to a Christian. Jesus told His disciples...
"The Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you."
"When He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak (just Jesus does the will of the father) ; and He will disclose to you what is to come."
The Holy Spirit was given to live inside those who believe in Jesus, in order to produce God's character in the life of a believer. In a way that we cannot do on our own, the Holy Spirit will build into our lives love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Rather than trying to be loving, patient, kind, God asks us to rely on Him to produce these qualities in our lives. Thus Christians are told to walk in the Spirit and be filled with the Spirit. And the Holy Spirit empowers Christians to perform ministerial duties that promote spiritual growth among Christians.
The Holy Spirit also performs a function for non-Christians as well. He convicts people's hearts of God's truth concerning how sinful we are needing God's forgiveness; how righteous Jesus is -- He died in our place, for our sins; and God's eventual judgment of the world and those who do not know Him. The Holy Spirit tugs on our hearts and minds, asking us to repent and turn to God for forgiveness and a new life.

The verse you quoted did not validate trinity in anyway.

That been said is the Holy spirit not coequal enough to have HIS own throne in revelations?

Perfectbeing:
Fine. I apologize for that. It was immature of me.

Apology accepted

It's ok!

Perfectbeing:
God is eternal, everlasting, has no beginning, and has no end. Everything that comes from God is eternal, everlasting, has no beginning, and has no end. The Word (Jesus) comes from God. The Word (Jesus) is eternal, everlasting, has no beginning and has no end.

A lion begets a lion. The parent lion is not eternal, everlasting. It has beginning, it has an end. So is the baby lion.

We humans, we are begotten from our papa and mama. Our parents are not eternal or everlasting, they have beginnings and they have ends. We are not eternal or everlasting, we have beginnings and we have ends.

Jesus is begotten from God. He is God's begotten son (John 3:16). That is, He is from God Himself. And anything that is from God (begotten from God) (in this case, Jesus) is eternal, everlasting, has no beginning and has no end.
Jesus shares God's DNA (permit me to use scientific terms).
God DNA is eternal, everlasting, no beginning, no end.


The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God. God is eternal, everlasting, has no beginning, and has no end. His Spirit is eternal, everlasting, has no beginning, and has no end.


In summary, Jesus is God.

I call you blessed.

Now did Jesus come from himself or from another called God the father?

If Jesus is Yahweh (God the father) as you had earlier insinuated, who is Jesus from as I have pointed out in your comment above. Who is Jesus begotten from ?

Since this Jesus is actually Yahweh the father according to you.

Remember that will make one party still missing in trinity as well.

Perfectbeing

For those that say Jesus is a Mighty God but not the Almighty God, what you mean exactly is that there are more than one God. The first one is the Almighty God in other words, the greater God. And the second is the mighty God, in other words the lesser god. (some said Jesus is not God but a god. they translate John 1:1 as... and the word was a god) Same goes for you too..

God the father, God the Son, God the Holy spirit
How many God(s) are in the trinity again?

In the first commandment, the Almighty God (Yahweh) said we should have no other god (or mighty God) except Him. So if Isa 9:6 was talking about another mighty God and not the Almighty God Himself, it is either God is introducing us to another god making him a confused God or the Bible contradicts itself.

Do you wonder why God the I Am, will be that he will be or who he will be?, do you wonder why he has commit all things to Jesus the Son, do you still wonder why he gave the Son a name above all names, do you still wonder why Jesus said "all that is thine are mine, all that is mine are thine?", do you still wonder why Jesus boast that "in my Father's house there are many mansions"?, do you still wonder why it pleased God the father to dwell in the Son fully?, do you still wonder why the Son asked the father to glorify him with the glory he had with the father before the world was?, do you still wonder why Jesus the Son is an express radiant of God his father?, do you still wonder why Jesus said "my father is greater than all?", do you still wonder why Jesus said "my father is greater than i"?, do you wonder why God the father asked the angels to worship the Son when he brought him into the world?, do you still wonder why the father will judge no one but has commit all judgment to the Son?, do you still wonder why the father has given the Son his kingdom?, finally do you wonder why the Son seeks not his own will? Because all things still goes back to that very one God the father. He wills as he pleases, he does what he wills, he will be what he will be.

The bible does not contradict itself if only you let every single verse count and speak for itself.

In the 2nd commandent, God warns against creating for ourselves, a graven image or likeness of anything in the heavens. And in the 3rd commandments we are told not to bow to them or serve them or worship them or pray to/ through them. (Don't tell me you don't see worship or pray written there. You can't serve what you don't worship and you don't pray to/through what you don't serve)
One thing we (or most Christians) agree on (whether trinitarians or not) is that Jesus (who some call a god or a mighty God) comes from heaven same as God almighty. If these two Gods (almighty God and mighty God) are not the same, then the second commandment must be flawed or God is confused here too.

Hebrews 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.


John 14:1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.


John 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

Philippians 2:9-10
9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

Also in Isa 9:6, Jesus is called an everlasting Father and in Isaiah 40:28 God is called the everlasting God... Unless you mean the everlasting Father and the everlasting God are two different Beings, then I don't know what you mean.

Who gave Jesus the everlasting father to us?
What do you understand when Jesus said "I came out of thee?" (John 17:
What do you understand when Jesus said "all mine are thine, and all thine are mine?" (John 17:10)

Come on you still think Jesus is Yahweh but you still end up with 3 different persons in trinity, how sir?

Perfectbeing:
And who is this truth that we shall know and set us free if not Jesus the Truth.

I'm coming to the Holy Spirit. I cannot start talking about the Holy Spirit when we still haven't agree about the son and the father. it will only bring in more confusion.

I call you blessed..

No sir, the Trinity Coequality of father, Son and Holy spirit goes together, none should be left out at any point please.

Verily Verily as you have said Jesus is the truth, knowing him is knowing God the father. But sadly triniterians know 3 in 1.

Perfectbeing:
I've given you my answer sir. I told you I can't give you a definite answer.

But then, you got my message right?

Why did you ask of something of someone when you cant give that, when the same is ask of you?

Be a good Christian brother.

I must answer your questions how you want but you will answer mine how you want hun? Only those with ulterior motive do that.

Fine.

I will try as much as possible to give your questions more comprehensive answers by the Grace of God.

Perfectbeing:
in other words God the Father and God the son Son of God as been established but God the Holy Spirit have not. Is this what you mean to say

Yes or is the Holy spirit not coequal enough to have HIS own throne?

adelee777:
. God bless u.

Amen and bless you too sir

MuttleyLaff:
For unto us a Child is born,
unto us a Son is given:
and the government shall be upon His shoulder:
and His name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God,
The everlasting Father,
The Prince of Peace.
- Isaiah 9:6

I'll ask this question again that's often stylishly ignored:
Is it impossible for God to simultaneously and concurrently be, in Heaven and earth, at any moment of time?

That Isaiah 9:6 above aside, one really ought to, at least and for a start,
be asking oneself the following questions:
#1 Why did the God, need to become, God, the Father?
#2 Why did God, need to become, God, the Son?
#3 Why did God, stick to this human being means and following these protocols?

Well the phrase "Holy Trinity" is a misnomer
as it is suggesting an idea that is obviously wrong

God, the Living, Intelligent, Omnipresent, Self-Existing, All-Powerful, Authority, Influence being, cant be boxed up.

Part of the absurdity of the theological shenanigans so far presented on this thread, is the aspect of pigeonholing God into trinity
People wishing and trying their hardest best to pigeonhole God
It actually is imposing restrictions on God's activities or freedom, to be what He wishes to be

For crying out loud, God is not limited to 3 persons
because, God is ''I AM THAT I AM'', ''I SHALL BE THAT I SHALL'', ''I WILL BE THAT I BE''
so, since God is, not-known-number-of persons
God, then, is, x-persons
God, in effect is, ∞-persons

Adam, Noah, the patriarchs, the Israelites etcetera didnt know God, as a Father, as a Son
The realisation or knowledge of God being a Father and being a Son, came with the advent of Jesus

Who knows what other person(s), during the passage of time, God will also reveal Himself to be

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To answer your question God can be anywhere at anytime through the power of his holy spirit that fills up or inhabit the worlds even as deep as eternity.

The funny thing is how the third party in the trinity is less talked about or completely and stylishly left out in the heat of conversation.

Trinity remains a false and pagan concept.

We shall know the truth and the truth shall set us free indeed.

Shalom aleikhem