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This is good. 2 different sects of muslims washing their dirty laundry in public. An innocent bystander would be of the view that sex with underage girls is a big issue in Islam

LagosShia: Sheikh Ahmed Deedat (Sunni,and Islam-Christianity Comparative Religion Preacher) in Praise of Iran


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7uUtGGonUY

Do you have any Western non-muslim friend at all? Do you think we take Ahmed Deedat seriously, despite his speaking abilities?

maclatunji: Hmmm..., Logicboy, you are quite close to getting banned again. However, on this thread there is very little evidence to ban you with apart from the fact that you are not Muslim. I just want you to curb yourself.

Calm down. Big MAC.

LagosShia: lol

i don't know why some people can ridiculously be obessessed with any Islam to such ridiculous extent

Hypocrisy in excess!


LagosShia is one of the most prolific posters on the Islam section, yet has the nerve to call someone else "ridiculously obsessed with Islam".


This is too funny!

How does a poor woman with only on set of burkha manage when she washes her only burkha?

Conundrum

LagosShia: Minister Stresses Iran's Respect for All Religious Minorities

TEHRAN (FNA)- Iranian Culture and Islamic Guidance Minister Seyed Mohammad Hosseini underlined the Islamic Republic's respect and support for the rights of all religious minorities living in Iran.

Hosseini referred to the rights of religious minorities in Iran, and added that in Iran, the religious minorities have representatives at the parliament.

He further underlined that commonalties of different religions should be identified and introduced.

Hosseini made the remarks in a meeting with followers of monotheist religions in Tehran on Saturday night, stressing that the amicable and cordial relations among the followers of monotheistic religions in Islamic Iran is one of the honors of the sacred Islamic Republic.

In relevant remarks in 2010, Vice-Speaker of the Iranian Parliament Mohammad Hassan Aboutorabi Fard had also reiterated the Islamic Republic's respect for religious minorities, and said that minorities in Iran enjoy the same rights that Muslims have even in legislating laws for the country.

"Representatives of the religious minorities enjoy equal rights with other lawmakers in the Islamic Consultative Assembly (parliament) in Iran," Aboutorabi Fard said in a meeting here in Tehran at the time with the Patriarch Cardinal of the Chaldean and Assyrian Catholic Church of Iraq.

He said that based on Islamic guidelines, all religious minorities in Iran are free to observe their religious duties, and they also enjoy the right to choose their own favorite MPs from among their own religious brethrens.

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9010175364

LMAO. So, what about the mistreatment of christians in Iran that is popular knowledge? Are you just going to ignore that? Where muslim apostates who become christians are threatened and some arrested from their homes?



How can there be religious freedom or diversity or tolerance when the law of the land is based on only one religion? The Christian or Jewish MP's in Iran are a big joke. They can not go on
TV or on Billboards and express their faiths and neither can their fellow non-muslims do that in Iran.

As you can see from the comments, no one believes you propaganda

LagosShia: we are proud of hijab!!!

but how low and stupid can you get to post a picture from Malaysia or Indonesia to paint a picture of Iran?

Who cares about hijab? If a woman wants to wear the Hijab, it is her choice. However, if a woman forgets or fails to wear it, she should not be caned.



It doesnt matter if the picture is from Somalia. The point is that the caning occurs in Iran also and it is applicable. The swimmer picture is iranian

LagosShia: there is no question of "if" here because the bishop said the government does provide money to the church.in your view that implies the bishop cannot complaint therefore of the "persecution" you want us to believe is taking place against the likes of the bishop.but this is flawed because a government persecuting a people would not give money to them part of the iranian budget.it just doesnt make sense.

I used "if" because I do not trust your video which did not interview other christians. Mao was a murdering communist atheist. Mao did not murder the bhuddist that supported his cause. He however destroyed many other buddhist temples and murdered Tibetan buddhist. Just because the Iranian government supports one christian church doesnt mean it does not supress/oppress the others.

LagosShia: the bishop represents his church and congregation.and i could remember well from watching the video,that particular bishop speaks for iranian orthodox christians.

The bishop only represents his particular church. Let me explain christian denominations for you since you clearly do not understand. "Orthodox" is a broad term in christianity. Orthodox in christianity can mean two things;

a)orthodox- the original/standard churches; Catholics, Eastern Orthodox churches or Oriental orthodox churches
b)othodox- eastern or oriental orthodox church.


Your Iranian Bishop only represents one type of oriental orthodox church. So, in the grand scheme of things, he is nothing in christianity. He is only a puppet for the Iranian government. A shill


The very fact that they did not use a catholic bishop or priest is very telling. Catholics were the first christians. also the largest and most influential. Catholics come first in christianity. The pope is catholic.

LagosShia: i have only seen those affiliated with american churches complaining.and incredibly enough they do not complain when american tyrannical allies like saudi arabia maltreat or persecute minorities.

You talk as if churches only come from America. Churches are worldwide (UK, Australian, German missionaries) and my videos show Iranian christians being persecuted.

Your propaganda does not work. There are thousands upon thousands of articles complaining about the bad treatments that christians get in Iran. I have alread posted three in my previous comment.

My video shows Iranian christians being persecuted, not americans living in Iran;



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gLYOogKJe8

LagosShia: so this is the lifestyle you want Islam to be promoting?

I prefer that muslim lifestyle to the Iranian Shia lifestyle;

[img]http://2.bp..com/_Z4wP5A80j-k/RrxV4Up-3VI/AAAAAAAAAMQ/HB9SeuGvHG8/s400/060424_muslim_sports_big.jpg[/img]

Female Iranian athletes are all but prevented from participation in the Olympic Games.[32] In December 2007 the vice president of the Iranian Olympic Committee, Abdolreza Savar, issued a memorandum to all sporting federations about the "proper behavior of male and female athletes" and that[b] "severe punishment will be meted out to those who do not follow Islamic rules during sporting competitions" both local and abroad.[33] Men are not allowed to train or coach women[/b]. Iran's female volleyball team was once considered the best in Asia, but due to the lack of female coaches it has been prevented from international competition.[33]
Iranian women are allowed to compete in sports that require removal of the hijab, but only in arenas that are all female.[32] They are banned from public events if spectators include unrelated men.[34] Thus, of the 53 Iranian athletes in the Beijing Olympics, there were only three women: Sara Khoshjamal Fekri (taekwondo), Najmeh Abtin (shooting) and Homa Hosseini (rowing).[32]

Women may not wear Lycra as it is too form-fitting; when Homa Hosseini competes in rowing she must wear her hijab secured by a hat, a long-sleeved baggy top and tracksuit bottoms.[34] If women do not conform to the dress code rules, they face severe punishment and a ban on participation in any future national or international competitions.[33]
At the 2004 Athens Olympics there was only one female athlete from Iran.[32]

BAD HIJAB
"Bad hijab" ― exposure of any part of the body other than hands and face – is subject to punishment of up to 70 lashes or 60 days imprisonment.[8][9] In April 2007, the Tehran police, (which is under Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei's supervision), began the most fierce crackdown on what is known as "bad hijab" in more than a decade. In the capital Tehran thousands of Iranian women were cautioned over their poor Islamic dress and several hundred arrested.[10]

[img]http://1.bp..com/-iWS10yd2tCA/TtMAYbPKU2I/AAAAAAAAA8E/d8-AQ7YxLUA/s1600/15sims_CA0_600.jpg[/img]

DJ Khalid, a muslim hip hop producer

[img]http://allhiphop.files./2012/06/20120628-062510.jpg[/img]

tbaba1234: Ps logicboy: get a life, you seem like an obsessed person

How many Islamic threads have you put up in the last month compared to my 3 accounts? You have more threads.


Pease, do not be a hypocrite.

tbaba1234: ......and can find no water, then take some clean sand and wipe your face and hands with it. God does not wish to place any burden on you: He only wishes to cleanse you and perfect His blessing on you, so that you may be thankful. (Surah maidah:6)

Yes, clean sand.


How is sand clean in the first place? How can sand purify when sand is dirty? You wouldnt let your wounds touch sand, would you?

Is mud a good substitute where there is no sand/water?

Millions of people dont have access to clean water. How do they wash before prayers?

tiarabubu: LagosShia,

Your love for Iran is known and understandable. I mean they are Shia like you and you have an affinity.

BUT this blanket pass mark you are trying to award them wouldn't cut it. The world is a global village so propaganda is very easily seen through for what it is. The persecution of minorities in Iran is well documented and it will serve no purpose repeating. It's on the net for all to see.

There is no nation without fault and Iran is no exception. In areas of technology, discipline and policy they get top marks. No one (even US, their "friend" ) can take that away cos it's so clear and even i admire them for it. But in other areas like freedoms of worship and choice, they have questions to answer. For example the recent attempt at expanding apostasy laws to cover Iranians abroad! And it's all ok? Come on!

Great comment

LagosShia: MacDaddy01 aka Logicboy01 aka Cheers01,

isn't that a contradiction in your statement? where is the logic in your statement that the iranian government would give money to people it is accused of persecuting? were you drunk while typing this?

1)You failed to notice the "if" at the beginning of the sentence.

2)One bishop does not constitute or represent the whole of christianity. There is something called being a "shill"

3) The fact remains that many christians remain persecuted in Iran. Iranaian christians

4) I hardly drink. You wouldnt want me to insult you with alcohol as a muslim. Do unto others as you want others to do unto you.


Feel free to lie that I'm derailing your thread. Then ironically cry when Maclatunji is maltreating you!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sivAkHdV4Q

Another example;

Muslim woman, non muslim husband; Iman and David Bowie;


https://rollingout.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/DAVID-BOWIE-imanwedding.jpg

[quote author=Rafidi ]very suprising to see iranian christians giving a different picture of their own lives while fanatical christians far away from Iran influenced by american evangelical churches with counterfeit miracles want to still attack anything Islamic and Iran.as for the one calling himself "MacDaddy01" presenting videos of iranian "christians" in america,dont you think this is the same thing LagosShia is saying that youths are being bribed by these pentecostal american churches and Iran does not tolerate their political manipulations? i think if christians are persecuted then that bishop in the video in the OP should have said it.but he was praising the iranian government and said that the government even give them government money from the iranian budget as iranian citizens.[/quote]My second video shows indigenous Iranian christians being persecuted.

If the Bishop in LagosShia's video gets money from the Iranian government, is he going to have the credibility to complain?

LagosShia: please see the below link to know the difference between indigenous iranian christians and american sponsored evengelical churches aiming to disturb peace in iran.for christians indigenous to iran to be praising their country and its government clearly shows that life is comfortable for them and there is no maltreatment of them based on their religion.and it is also evident that those who complain have their own plans and secret agendas ill-intended for Iran.and whether you be Muslim and even a Shia Muslim or christian or whatever,no state tolerates jeopardizing the state of affairs and so does Iran not tolerate that.iranian christians indigenous to iran are free to worship.but those american evangelicals aiming to spread their denominational beliefs to "undermine" the islamic republic has a political end.in fact even iranian christians would not be pleased for these pentecostal churches to come in and bribe youths with visas to the west and money to become "christian" as they have done.the iranian christians belong to traditional christian churches that even pre-date Islam in Iran.and those traditional churches are respected,protected and preserved in Iran;unlike the fanatical pentecostal-money-making-scamming pastors and their aim to deceive people.

http://www.shiachat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/235002746-iran-fears-christianity-part-2/

My second video showed IRANIAN indigenous christians being persecuted. Please, you are entitled to your opinions but not your own facts.

There are so many articles on the persecution of christians in Iran. Such persecution is even on the rise;

http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/persecution-of-christians-soars-in-iran/ (xtain persecution on the rise)



Other articles concerning persecution;

http://www.farsinet.com/persecuted/
http://www.persecution.org/2012/05/02/two-iranian-christian-converts-arrested-in-tehran/

One should be careful to get the story of both sides to get a balanced view. Propaganda exists in todays world.

Iranian pastor faces death sentence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OgKUU-LapU


Christian persecution in Iran


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gLYOogKJe8