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Christianity Etc › Re: Understanding Atheism by MacDaddy01: 1:44am On Jul 09, 2012
okeyxyz: so how's a "brainwashed" person different from a person "in love"?
Depends on the kind of love;

-infatuation
-mutual love
-platonic love
Christianity Etc › Re: Understanding Atheism by MacDaddy01: 1:40am On Jul 09, 2012
okeyxyz: do you see that you have simply made rubbish of all your "subjective" arguments? because you would not cheat on your wife, therefore any man who cheats does not love his wife? why don't you consider the "subjective" idea that he loves his wife but seeks sexual entertainment elsewhere? why must your own values overrule another man's? two seconds ago you where brandishing subjectivity in support of other people living their lives the way they fancy
Wrong. Cheating is subjective itself. Cheating is whatever the husband and wife deem it to be together. If the husband and wife agree to accept to have threeesomes once in a while, that could be love.


Am i too much for you?
Christianity Etc › Re: Understanding Atheism by MacDaddy01: 1:34am On Jul 09, 2012
okeyxyz: you summon subjectivity when it suits you and reject it when it does not. why can't you accept that my god exists because you see me worship him & conduct myself according to his doctrine? why is my subjective behaviour not evidence enough for to at least consider the possiblity of a god, and that you are not in a position to say there is no good simply because you don't understand him?
Your behaviour is not evidence for God. There is enough evidence in the realms of psychology to show that your behavior is that of a brainwashed person. grin grin grin


Read about Pavlovian conditioning and how you have been conditioned to associate good with Jesus and christianity.


Wow, I just keep debunking you!
Christianity Etc › Re: If The Bible Is A Catholic Book by MacDaddy01: 1:31am On Jul 09, 2012
ijawkid: Lol....

Pray psychopath kids who lack home training and bible training just as ur kids would be won't go around shooting people.....
Just as it happens most times....

Or maybe u'll enjoy it too when ur kids while in d western mumu world becomes gays......
Rubbish!!!!

Ur worshipping d whites...

I've told u to come back to nigeria and show ur strength..lol
Ode, the same Nigerian kids that are into yahoo yahoo or the ones that learn corruption from their society?
Christianity Etc › Re: If The Bible Is A Catholic Book by MacDaddy01: 1:29am On Jul 09, 2012
leaveme: UNA NO GET WORK OH!

(a)Psalms 14:1 A fool says in his heart that there is no God. shocked

(b)If you argue with a fool no one will be a able to tell the difference. undecided

(c)2 Timothy2:23 Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. angry
Ode, the same bible says;

Matthew 5:22

But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, 'Raca,' is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire o
Christianity Etc › Re: Understanding Atheism by MacDaddy01: 1:25am On Jul 09, 2012
okeyxyz: So, any man who cheats does not love his wife ehh? And any couple "does things together and have a decent communication between each other" is proof of love?? so, it's not possible there could be some other underlying reason? or they could be pretending? mehn, your logic is simply incredible!!
How can you love your wife and cheat on her? Are you some kind of pervert or he-goat?


Yes, the moment you cheat on your wife, you have stopped loving her.


Love;

Doesnt cheat

includes open communication

includes spending time together.

Love is very fickle and it can fall apart. What we use to judge love are a period of time and the 3 things above.
Christianity Etc › Re: Understanding Atheism by MacDaddy01: 1:20am On Jul 09, 2012
okeyxyz: grin grin grin lwkmd...
I'm shocked you make this argument to justify the truth of love, but you use the same "subjective" argument to disqualify god, religion & morals. In fact, i'm beginning to doubt your atheistic claims o
LMAO. God is non-existent not because of subjectivity but because there is no evidence for him.

Morality is subjective and that is why one religion can not legislate morality. One religion allows tattoos the other does not


Love is subjective and that is why one couple can not legislate on how another couple should love. Some couples love anal sex, some do not
Christianity Etc › Re: Understanding Atheism by MacDaddy01: 1:16am On Jul 09, 2012
tobechi20: Logic boy/mac donald
i tink its becoming clearer.

If a î7 year old poor gal get pregnant by a poorer boy. D best tin 4 evry body to b hapi is ABORTION.

GAYMARRIAGE IS OK AS FAR AS D COUPLE IS HAPI WHETHER OTHER MILLIONS ARE ANGRY OR NOT.


KILLING a bad president like ABACHA is permisable since if he was not killed, he was going to kill Obasanjo and others the next day..,.

Am i correct?
Sometimes, the questions religious people ask are quite annoying. The other guy was asking me how to prove that I love my wife that there is no proof for love.


look, morality is subjective. Yes, there are situations that are easy to categorize as pure evil (moral universalism eg murdering an innocent guy) and some that are grey areas that can not be easily categorized. For the grey areas, we use pros and cons.


A gay man is not bothering you. If you dont like gay marriage, dont marry a gay. Simple. The gay marriage has no effect on your life. Incest has a direct consequence of abuse within families and creation of mutant slowpokes in the society.

Abortion is a woman's choice. Not yours to decide for her. eople like you do not realise that

a) If the woman gives birth to the child, religious people like you wont do anything to support the child. This is what religious people like to see;

[img]http://tcdh.files./2011/09/vulture_waiting_for_the_child_to_die.jpg[/img]

b) A fertilized egg is not yet a human being.
Christianity Etc › Re: Understanding Atheism by MacDaddy01: 1:06am On Jul 09, 2012
okeyxyz: Okay, if everything is about proof, I remember asking you(or logicboy, can't remember precisely) a question on some other thread which you failed to answer. I remind you: Can you proof to a third party that you love your wife? one can argue that love is the most subjective phenomenon in the universe, but somehow, you guys who are proponents of evidence & proof all profess and aspire to love. What is the definition of love? what is the tool to measure it? Since you can't proof love, does it mean love does not exist?
I must have debunked you on that thread. I have a Phd in religious debunkology.


Jokes apart, what kind of fool do you have to be to say that there is no proof for love? You are already saying that it is subjective- are you not acknowledging that it exists by saying it is subjective. A man that loves his wife will treat her specially and not cheat on her. Furthermore, couples in love do things together and have a decent communication between each other. We justify love with actions and there are different kinds of love.
Christianity Etc › Re: Understanding Atheism by MacDaddy01: 12:58am On Jul 09, 2012
InesQor: Lies? Not at all. For my Senior High school, I attended an underclass (VERY underclass) public high school in Nigeria, and I was taught about evolution in Biology in my late SS1 and into SS2.

Even if all you were taught was about the evolution of the homo genus, you can't double-back now and say you didn't KNOW about evolution wink

Just putting it out there.

Cheers
lol.......we were taught the different jinds iof man but not the theory behind it. The theory of evolution. Jeez, I dont know why you want to play the smartazz detective. Anyone with common sense will understand what I meant
Christianity Etc › Re: Understanding Atheism by MacDaddy01: 12:10am On Jul 09, 2012
okeyxyz: @cyrexx, @logicboy01: put god aside, do you (or atheists) believe in supernatural powers or abilities?
Nope. No spiritual nonsense
Christianity Etc › Re: Understanding Atheism by MacDaddy01: 12:10am On Jul 09, 2012
InesQor: @logicboy01/Macdaddy01:



Does this mean (please select all that apply):
(a) You became atheist before you studied biology in high school?
(b) You did not study biology in high school (or did not pay attention)?
(c) You are not yet in high school?
When did they start teaching evolution properly in Naija? Why do we like lying to ourselves?


In Nigeria, they just teach you; homo habilis, homo erctus, homo sapien. That is it for evolution. I went to the best secondary school in Lagos.
Christianity Etc › Re: Understanding Atheism by MacDaddy01: 11:48pm On Jul 08, 2012
tobechi20: Logic boy,

dat means atheist believe in anything that has proof, evidence,since God existence and other religious belief cant be prooven,so they dnt belief in God.ANY THING DAT CAN BE PROVEN WITH EVIDENCE WHETHER SCIENCE OR NOT.



Human ethicshuh
Do human have ethics?
Plz xplain

no book, no rules?
U act by weighing d likely consequence of ur action.

E.g ure at home, ur dad is at home and d landlord comes to see daddy.daddy tels u 2 say he traveld.
U know its because of house rent.


What Wil u do using human ethics based on weighing effect huh
(This is logicboys 2nd account)

Yes, humans get ethics from interactions with others and critical thinking. We dont need the bible or koran to know that we shouldnt kill anyhow. Common sense will tell you that if you kill someone, his relative or friend will want to kill you. Common sense will also tell you that you wouldnt want to be killed and so why kill someone. Best of all, common sense will tell you two heads are better than one, it is better to work together than kill and be alone.

As for the landlord and my pop, a lie would save me and my dad from being thrown out of the apartment or taken to police/court. The truth, while a good policy, makes everyone angry; the landlord catching a fraudulent tenant, my dad angry with me and me outside my apartment due to eviction. I will lie that dad is travelling
Christianity Etc › Re: The Logicboy Effect (A Message To All Nairaland Atheists) by MacDaddy01: 11:37pm On Jul 08, 2012
davidylan: Again you are confused by your own claims. Illegal immigrants do not have a particular religious affiliation...
I am talking about the illegal immigrants in churches on old kent road, london
Christianity Etc › Re: The Logicboy Effect (A Message To All Nairaland Atheists) by MacDaddy01: 11:36pm On Jul 08, 2012
davidylan: I wasnt being disingenous and you know it. grin you're only mad because even you can see the glaring sense of desperation in your actions. Why is it that atheists just cant stand christians making a conscious choice to believe the christian faith? Why are you so desperate that you would choose to spend more than half your entire day to devote to aggressively spamming christian threads?
What is it about the name of Christ alone (you pretend to hate islam too but lets face it, your grouse is primarily against the God of the bible) that bites you so hard that you feel christianity must be abolished while ignoring sikhs, buddhists e.t.c. who also share a pixie-in-the-sky faith?

You claim that all you want to do is "talk about the evils of religion... but you focus ONLY on christianity why?
Go to the islam section and see my threads on Islam.

What desperation? I only post on the internet. Even Frosbel and Olaadegbu and Tbaba have more posts than me.

The irony here is that we could be friends but you're a douche. I also like Arsenal and dislike the tea party.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Logicboy Effect (A Message To All Nairaland Atheists) by MacDaddy01: 11:16pm On Jul 08, 2012
davidylan: ok there are just as many atheist illegal immigrants. I mean your "argument" is disjointed here... there are even more legal citizens who go to church every sunday, do they look like they dont have a fulfilled life to you?

No one really cares how much you make every sunday... grow up dude.
You cared about my earnings enough to belittle it. Shameless pig.

lol....no, atheists dont go to church. Are you telling me the illegals in church are atheists? Are you slow?

Majority of the people in those churches are nigerians....a significant amount are illegals. Significant enough for immigration police raids
Christianity Etc › Re: The Logicboy Effect (A Message To All Nairaland Atheists) by MacDaddy01: 11:12pm On Jul 08, 2012
davidylan: why are you desperate to "free" your brothers? Dont they deserve the right to their own personal choices? undecided
I have to insult you because of your disingenuity!


You are a useless fool. When I say that I want to free them, all I do is talk about the evils of religion on the internet. You call me desperate but what do you call the tens of millions of evangelists who go around telling people that they should accept jesus or burn in hell?


This is not funny. Seriously, who where the dumbazzes that liked your comment?
Christianity Etc › Re: Seun, Stop Bowing To Religious Bigots!!!! Injustice! by MacDaddy01(op): 10:52pm On Jul 08, 2012
https://www.nairaland.com/942102/reason-behind-fall-into-atheism#10868497


alexleo: Athesists can be summarised as a bunch of lazy christians who rather than prove God in their lives as individuals relied on being spoonfed by their pastors.
Christianity Etc › Re: Seun, Stop Bowing To Religious Bigots!!!! Injustice! by MacDaddy01(op): 10:48pm On Jul 08, 2012
1supremo: ATHEISM AS A SYSTEM IS SELF-DEFEATING!
https://www.nairaland.com/982072/why-not-atheist#11331959
Christianity Etc › Re: Seun, Stop Bowing To Religious Bigots!!!! Injustice! by MacDaddy01(op): 10:45pm On Jul 08, 2012
Hmmm no response form the big man. think that I will start using this thread to expose evil statements that dont get people banned. But because I am a vocal atheist, Seun bends the laws to ban me.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Logicboy Effect (A Message To All Nairaland Atheists) by MacDaddy01: 10:30pm On Jul 08, 2012
davidylan: and what is the difference? Why does the private practice of religion PARTICULARLY by christians whip you into a frenzy? Why arent you equally in a frenzy to convince Buddhists about the truth?
Because, i pity my brainwashed brothers. Slaves to a religion that enslaved their forefathers. I want to free them. ame thing with Islam. It was not a frenzy out of anger


As for Bhuddism, it is not a popular religion in Naija.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Logicboy Effect (A Message To All Nairaland Atheists) by MacDaddy01: 10:27pm On Jul 08, 2012
InesQor: What lies? Your exact words were
And was it a frenzy of anger as Davidylan stated?


Keep lying
Christianity Etc › Re: The Logicboy Effect (A Message To All Nairaland Atheists) by MacDaddy01: 10:26pm On Jul 08, 2012
davidylan: and who told you tithe payers dont have fulfilled lives?

A 1000 pound profit is why you are jumping around? shocked cheesy How old are you again? 12?
Quarter of a million Naira is small money to you? slowpoke. If that is what i make on a sunday, what do you think I make from monday to friday?


As for fufilled lives, many of those Nigerians do not have visa to stay in UK, yet they are in church. How do I know this? Recent police busts at churches and houses in the same area.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Logicboy Effect (A Message To All Nairaland Atheists) by MacDaddy01: 10:06pm On Jul 08, 2012
Christianity Etc › Re: The Logicboy Effect (A Message To All Nairaland Atheists) by MacDaddy01: 10:05pm On Jul 08, 2012
Ihedinobi: I don't really have a lot to say in response to you, but I do feel like I should say something hehe grin Anyway, I've got no beef with anyone who picks a fight with religion. If religion is that thing that turns people into murderous, unthinking morons, then I hold no truck with it and will fervently pray for the day we can live without it. However if that is what religion is, then we speak of ideologies and they are many and varied. Just as easily as people build a religion out of their conception of Jesus Christ and out of the doings and person and exploits of Muhammad, they can build a religion out of "unbelief". And just as easily as people murder and commit all sorts of atrocities for things they believe, they do the same for things they *refuse* to believe.

I'm a man free of religion (at least, that thing against which u speak and which I hope I have defined), but I have very firm beliefs about life. Because of these beliefs, I do not believe other beliefs. But it would compromise my beliefs to try to press another human being into the mold of my beliefs. Those beliefs, however firm, are not ultimate in my life. They change according to my development through life, but they do so in relation to an ultimate: a point to which I consistently and inadvertently gravitate no matter the greatness of departure I take with respect to life. Everyone, to the best of my knowledge, has an ultimate. I dare to say it's the same ultimate for all of us. Our beliefs develop according to our relationship to it. Therefore, in our doings, it is only right and reasonable to respect the next person's degree of development with respect to this ultimate and be willing to have our input in their development to be treated as suggestions and no more. That hold whether we're buddhists, christians, confucianists, traditionalists, moslems or atheists. All those, and more besides, exist to mark dividing lines between people. None of them permits brotherhood! They all say that deep inside their adherents are all out of whack.

So, while u militate against religion for all its misdeeds (and you have no contention from me about them smiley), keep in mind that you too are militating for something and will not be long in taking the same hard line you condemn.

Geee, that sure was saying a lot :/grin
lol. Nice one.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Logicboy Effect (A Message To All Nairaland Atheists) by MacDaddy01: 10:03pm On Jul 08, 2012
frosbel: You are pitying people, some of whom live more fulfilled lives than yourselves, how hilarious grin
Fulfilled lives? They were coming from paying tithes in church and I was coming back from £1,000 gross profit from a business deal with my pal.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Logicboy Effect (A Message To All Nairaland Atheists) by MacDaddy01: 10:02pm On Jul 08, 2012
InesQor: Exactly!

+1
Keep supporting lies


MacDaddy01: (Macdaddy01 is logicboys other account)


Quite a foolish comment. I hope you realise that I was not whipped into a frenzy of anger, you just assumed that. I went into a typing frenzy powered by the belief that I can help convince my religious Nigerian brethren about the truth about religion
Christianity Etc › Re: The Logicboy Effect (A Message To All Nairaland Atheists) by MacDaddy01: 10:01pm On Jul 08, 2012
davidylan: this is what i will never understand. i am not whipped into a frenzy by the growing zealotry of gay rights advocates neither am i bothered whatsoever in the growing influence of atheism... why are atheists whipped into a maddening frenzy of anger because christians choose to worship a God they claim doesnt exist? What is it about this God that just drives atheists into a state of indescribable apoplexy?
(Macdaddy01 is logicboys other account)


Quite a foolish comment. I hope you realise that I was not whipped into a frenzy of anger, you just assumed that. I went into a typing frenzy powered by the belief that I can help convince my religious Nigerian brethren about the truth about religion
Christianity Etc › Seun, Stop Bowing To Religious Bigots!!!! Injustice! by MacDaddy01(op): 9:53pm On Jul 08, 2012
This is becoming shameful! Here is the reason that I (logicboy01) got banned for a month;



www.nairaland.com/attachments/749878_Unfair_jpgff9688d01c0a9fcdf15bc0597c4b342d




Yes, I got banned because I was "trilling" (trolling) for saying that christianity is a fraud. So, that is enough to get banned? Let us review the following comments about atheism;


JIL: Atheism is not only the greatest of evils, atheists are the most foolish of mind.
https://www.nairaland.com/277656/atheism-greatest-all-evils-na#3946836


frosbel: The tragedy of atheism is the hopelessness of the self. People who refuse to believe put their entire stock into their own strength, brain, abilities, and they say that any day now, the world will be better because of their own strength, brain, and abilities.
https://www.nairaland.com/974218/tragedy-atheism#11227887


OLAADEGBU: A fool in Scripture is not an id-iot, but an atheist.
https://www.nairaland.com/974582/what-does-bible-mean-whenever#11232254


These people did not get banned.




Seun, it is in your court!
Islam › Re: Is Islam Really For Poor People? by MacDaddy01: 2:08pm On Jul 08, 2012
vedaxcool: My brothers have been refuting u all this while. U just refused to see the facts.

1. Anyone can be poor.

2. Most poor muslims actually have access to halal foods, in the few cases when there is no alternative does take non halal foods become acceptable and this sort of situations are usually uncommon. In the Qur'an it is clearly stated that when someone is in dire situation he is allowed to take non halal food as long as his intention is for sustain his life! Even denying Allah or that u are a muslim is allowed if it would aid you to preserve your life! Islam is flexible to that extent Allahmudlilah Allah made his deen easy for the ummah.

3. Again what u wrote is not the norm but exceptions and in such situation, I doubt whether such happens but if does it is left to the muslims to decide whether or not he would want to manage the place but this is conditioned on the absolute fact that he can't even find say even a labourers job etc, on finishing my service a friend told me that a certain alcohol firm is employing, I refused sending my C.V and brave unemployment for close to year. This despite the unemployment situation in Nigeria.
Nobody refuted anything. I am not asking them to explain the pillars to me. What I am saying is that poor people can not partake in some of the pillars. Fact!

1) Wrong. Everybody will fall sick more than once in their lifetime. However, there have to be rich people and poor people. Without rich people, there is no economy.

2) Have you traveled at all? You sound ignorant. Even here in the UK, there are many small towns with no halal butchers or restaurants. You have to drive out to get halal foods. Then there is China, Japan, Eastern Europe where many cities do not have halal restaurants or supermarkets. Do you think a poor muslim is really going to spend money and time just to drive (or take transport) miles to get halal food which would be even more expensive? What is the point of halal in the first place if such a huge problem exists?

BTW; no one is talking about taquiyah here.

3) It is the norm. This is a recession and people are looking for jobs- any job. How do you feed your family without a job? How do you eat? Muslims should not work gambling casinos, beer factories/companies, riba investment companies? You want people to suffer just because of some religion? Can a poor man be picky about jobs?

The average British man can not afford to buy a house and so he takes mortgages (interest! Riba! Haraam!). Majority of houses on the market do not have islamic finance solution and so you have to go with interest laden mortgages. Islam is not practical for poor people in non-islamic countries. Islam is only practical where majority of the people are muslims.
Islam › Re: Is Islam Really For Poor People? by MacDaddy01: 1:45pm On Jul 08, 2012
tintingz: bro as far God's message get to you(atheist or pagan) or heard and you reject it till you die, hell is awaiting for such person. This no wicked buh the truth
So all christians in Iran are going to hell? They know what Sharia and islam is from living in a sharia country
Islam › Re: Is Islam Really For Poor People? by MacDaddy01: 1:42pm On Jul 08, 2012
justaqad: what facts?ur arguments are weak and shallow
lol....you need to reread my comments again

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