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Nice...this is what we need

a little more proud black Africans repin the black attitude

nzeobi:
Thank God am from this part of the world oh. Some of them are just too horrible

If you were from societies with those culture stick alive, you wouldn't have a problem with it

lelamela:
I wonder when will witchcraft die out in Africa


in Europe it has been dead since almost 700 years.though they did have witches in middle age,but it was rare

Maybe your should begin witch hunting if u are so bothered

And what is wrong with tribal marks Although in recent times for us Yoruba, it has become unnecessary for facial marks cus there are no more wars among us but if a young lady has, how does that define their personality or worth as a woman?

Oh! And Israel might be their God's people...every people to their God

Even ur holy book knows that...I assume you are Jewish

Micah 4:5

TheBlue5:
The area is the palace at OBU-Gad, and I have seen some of you questions your just a mad Yoruba Man, Yoruba are known for hating Igbo people, and for the Igbo to be from Israel that would mean that the Yoruba were wrong this whole time and they went against God's people, your a Yoruba you know nothing about the Igbo

Radoillo already corrected the fallacy about the name "Obu-Gad" do u need to see his post again?

you are the mad man here, coming all the way from God knows where to make ridiculous claims, not even one has been found to be true...including the bold

And I suppose you know more about Igbo all the way from Kenya or is it Ethiopia you said you from here's the insane calling me mad

TheBlue5:
And

And report:

re·port
rəˈpôrt/
verb
1.
give a spoken or written account of something that one has observed, heard, done, or investigated.

obviously I know the meaning of the word "report"...I don't need this

But certainly you need this..
Reportedly:
according to what some say (used to express the speaker's belief that the information given is not necessarily true).



Apply this definition to this ..." the discovery in the area of an onyx stone reportedly bearing the
name "Gad""

the Igbo Jews gave the report, but obviously an untrue report...otherwise the stone would be made public immediately it was discovered to have "Gad" inscribed on it..till now, that Stone is Unknown

Kizmarty:
oh! now I get you.

I guess it's a Catholic school, right?
I attended a seminary and our my sig was our motto then

Nah! A federal college in Lagos

Timoleon:
i wonder why the marine spirits from africa dont invent anything though...insteD, they are either responsible for someone else's poverty....mtchew

Cus poor and lazy Africans are so many, they blame everything for their laziness

Kizmarty:
how do u mean exactly?

its Latin word meaning flourish

I and my friend there attended a school, our motto was "Floreat Collegium"
we thought you went to KC too

An2elect2:
Do you know one of the reasons God is so awesome, is that He gives fools enough foolish reasons to continue in their foolishness.

In others words your God is a god of fools

inforesource:
and you think that your small brain can figure that out? i have a question for you. tell me when your bones grow?

I have a question for you, tell me where your God is

That's what this thread is about not bones

learnine:
The existence of God is a mystery that the ordinary mind cannot phatom. men who have tried to understand this mystery have been left either in frustration or in a state of quagmire. i hope u dont end up that way.

Yet you that has an ordinary mind phantom God so well

TheBlue5:
Claim by an Igbo Jew? No this site is Israel News.

Here's from the link

LAGOS, Nigeria - Efraim Uba was born and raised Catholic in southeastern Nigeria, the homeland of the Ibo ethnic group. He spent 17 years as a Pentecostal preacher before joining a messianic congregation where members wore yarmulkes and tallits but praised Jesus. In
1999, one congregant traveled to Israel and
came back claiming that the Ibos were Jews.
He convinced the whole congregation to
embrace Judaism.

...father down the claim

" The Nigerian Jewish claim was bolstered
several years ago with the discovery in the area of an onyx stone reportedly bearing the name "Gad" in ancient Hebrew."

You should not the bold...meaning the stone is still very mysterious and hasn't been seen to be what Igbo Jews claim
Yet we haven't seen this mysterious stone in public found in the "area". What area are they even talking about?

Ihuomadinihu:
Haha! Why are you denying your history? It wasn't the whiteman that wrote that one. This happened in recent memory. Yes,Fulani plunged and it's still enslaving your kingdom. I guess you didn't go through those yorubatic links. How can anyone take you serious?

You foul beast my kingdom is Ido-Ekiti and no fulani has ever been known to step into it talkless of enslaving it

Keep making a total fool of yourself and your ethnicity

Ihuomadinihu:
Are you blind? My job is not to feed you with links. You can't say your fulani masters never slept with your women,lol. Illorin is still going through complex identity crises. What a pity!

You are daft, a really dumb pile honestly even after I've just told u no Yoruba have been slaved by fulani...at least none is known anywhere...it's so unheard of
You still keep up with this
It's obvious u are trying to insult the Yoruba people with this disgusting lie many bigots like urself peddle on this forum

Is London going through identity crisis? Because there are many ethnic groups that have indigene status in Ilorin doesn't make it less a city centered on Yoruba culture and language

TheBlue5:
Here is a good source of information this is Israeli news it talks about the onyx stone of Gad:

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/features/nigeria-s-igbos-members-of-the-tribe-1.255034

This is so pathetic. I read ur link and it's only a claim by an Igbo Jew
If such stone existed why are there no pictures anywhere? Why have Aguleri people not come out to back up the claim of the stone's existence?

PreciousBro:
Macof Is a Reprobate Dunce, Empty and Unbelievably Foolish.

What Names and Clarification Does He Seek ?

Why can't you answer my questions but prefer to insult? I just can't stoop low to ur level I would have played your dumb game but am here for more important issues like seeking what you have on Igbo-Hebrews, something valid this time

Ihuomadinihu:
You are only repeating what i wrote before. No amount of draging this issue will solve your lack of understanding. Congoid cultures are not homogenous,so that is not valid.
I have already explained the uniqueness in igbo-jewish circumcision. Linguistic connections abound. Igbo and jewish genes come from same ancestors. At the end of the day,you are the one making the connections.

There's no uniqueness in Igbo circumcision, it's as typical as many of their neighbors
because of people like you, I've decided to make it a point of duty to study rituals like circumcision on infants in southern Nigeria

Can u just show the linguistic similarities.between Hebrew and Igbo
Historical records kept by traditional Igbos talking of migration from the middle east
The haplogroup that the Jewish and Igbo gene originated from

I don't know why you relish lies
it's true what they say after all, one lie always breeds more lies to try to keep up with the original lie
Your original lie here is that Igbo and Hebrew have same ancestry

Ihuomadinihu:
Forward everything you have written here to the appropriate websites. Why illorin? Did you see the other Yoruba fulani descendants. I provided the links,and you are still writing nonesense. Go and sue them!

To begin with Yorubas with fulani gene are so insignificant even in Ilorin, talkless of all of Yorubaland

Then fulani have no Eurasian gene, if u are so sure they do bring up the name of the geneticist that discovered it, and also the haplogroup in question

Ihuomadinihu:
You don't think before writing. Yoruba men were sampled and a very slight eurasia dna was found in them. Does it mean that all yorubas have eurasia gene?
Yes,you can be subsaharan and still carry admixtures. I already explained that. You are only draging this thread.

Again with the insults

Which Yoruba men? What are their names?
Where were they picked up from to serve as sample from Yoruba? How sure are we that they are Yoruba at all?
What's your source for this information? Ur last link proved nothing, it Infact said nothing of what you've been claiming

There's no "slight". don't infer Eurasia on Yoruba. We have no Eurasian gene in our blood - pure or admixture

It's best u make up ur mind and stick to something.
what do u mean by " Yoruba men were sampled and a very slight eurasia dna was found in them. Does it mean that all yorubas have eurasia gene"

If multiple Yoruba men were sampled to serve as specimen for the Yoruba gene code, then yes! The result would be taken to serve for all Yoruba.

It would however be stupidity on your part or that geneticist you read from(if any such geneticist exists, seeing as u have no sources or name to refer us to) if you pick from a one random man who just happened to have a Eurasian greatgrandfather or something, such randomness can be go in any direction like a case of a man having a native American haplogroup in his gene pool

Take for instance the insignificant few who are products of intermarriage with Europeans in recent times, in the future people like u would pick such random man claiming Yoruba who happens to have a German grandmother, the next thing you stupidly do is to call his DNA part of the typical Yoruba gene pool

If you knew all along that your samples having Eurasian admixture cannot serve for all Yoruba, why did u bring it up since the first page?
you have been the one dragging the thread actually

I am still waiting for the name of the geneticist, and the Eurasian haplogroup such geneticist claims Yoruba men have

The history between your slave masters,the fulanis is enough to introduce this gene.

I wanted to just delete this part out but I thought it better to coach u a little on Yoruba history that u are obviously ignorant of

Fulani never enslaved a single Yoruba man, there's no record of such. Rather some fulani were slaves tending to Alaafin's horses in the Oyo empire
plus our history has nothing of intermarriage outside Ilorin

And Fulani have no Eurasian gene to end with

Ihuomadinihu:
And Igbos converted to judaism recently,lol. All the evidence of this connection was discovered recently? Circumcision was practiced recently? Linguistic connection was only discovered recently? Lol.
Same gene marker was discovered recently? All the authors that independently compared the hebrew and igbo culture,did so recently?

Absolutely correct, without a doubt Igbo Jews haven't been around up to 50years(what I meant by recent)
Even now there's only less than 5.000 Igbo Jews in existence

Circumcision probably began by Igbo ancestors before Hebrews even left their homeland of Ur..a time their people were uncircumcised
There's no linguistic connection
There's no gene maker found in a typical black man like an Igbo that comes from Middle east
Semitic and Congoid culture are so nothing alike


you are making claims here and as the burden of proof is on u I'll like u to answer my 5 questions that you've been avoiding

chuna1985:
I can see u have been circumcising people since 1705.

Africans did not convert to Judaism recently, even till today, Judaism is a very unpopular religion practiced by less than 25 million people in the world.

If u know bible history + history , u would have known about how Hebrews left their homeland completely n fled thousands of years ago.

i know the bible history but what has Bible history got to do with African history? Bible is to Semitic people, we have our sources here you should know that already

You said there are Hebrew tribes in some countries you mentioned, I was interested in more information.
I noted South Africa where the Jews there only migrated recently, and some Igbos in Nigeria only converted to judaism recently
Older converts like Falasha Jews of Ethiopia aren't Hebrews either
As for Mali, I know of the conspiracy to steal the Songhai empire as a Hebrew achievement but it's all unproven


Most of the lost Hebrew tribes have formed clans in Yemen, Egypt and Morocco not Sub-saharan Africa
if there are sub-Saharan Hebrews it would found among the Lemba

Ihuomadinihu:
I still repeat Yoruba has a slight Eurasia dna(gene flow from the north). Now you can drown inside the Atlantic ocean afterall it's situated close to Yorubaland!
Am already working on other things,i will post them soon. That will expose your true colours on nairaland!
www.pnas.org/content/111/7/2632.long
Researching and finding links on your own has suddenly become a burden to you.
www.nairaland.com/515242/ilorin-crisis-fulani-identity

Ihuomadinihu: Lol!
www.premiumtimesng.com/opinion/130048-i-
have-fulani-blood-in-me-by-fani-kayode.html
There!
https://m.facebook.com/TheYorubaPeople/
posts/394296170676377
Testimonies of Yorubas
www.kwara247.com/news/yoruba-shall-be-free-in-ilorin/
You think those fulanis were sterile?
www.ilorin.info/fullnews.php?id=10472
I laugh in Eurasia!
www.nairaland.com/311148/saraki-fulani-mali

So ilorin is your source for Yoruba DNA? What happened to Ile-Ife, Ijebu-ode, Abeokuta? Even in that ilorin a typical family would still be 60% Yoruba ancestry regardless if they claim Fulani or Bariba
Ilorin is more Yoruba than others??

Your first link is dubious and unreliable
It not only tries to claim Niger-Congo speakers but Khoisan of southern Africa and Eastern Africans too

Btw it didn't categorically state or mention any Eurasian gene type in Yoruba, rather it claimed Yoruba are a source of admixture with Eurasians in central Africa

We then considered
hunter–gatherer populations from
other regions of Africa. In particular,
we performed the same analysis on the
Biaka ( Fig. 1B) and Mbuti (SI Appendix,
Fig. S3) from central Africa. As
expected, the inferred source of
admixture in these populations is a
sub-Saharan African population (most
closely related to the Yoruba, a Niger–
Congo-speaking agriculturalist group
from Nigeria).

www.pnas.org/content/111/7/2632.long

bigfrancis21:
With the intermarriage in the past and currently between fulanis/hausas (your masters for live. Remember Ilorin) and Yorubas, so-called 'eurasian' dna was introduced to the yoruba gene pool, albeit rather small. There is no gainsaying this fact. For worth it is worth, Yorubas are completely sub-saharan african, just as the Igbo overwhelmingly are. I don't see why you should get worked up over the fact that I mentioned that Yorubas are sub-saharan africans.

what intermarriage? how many Yorubas are product of intermarriage with Fulani or Hausa? I can tell you a very insignificant few in Oyo but mostly Ilorin
And how come such are used as standard for the entire Yoruba? That's dubious


If Yoruba are completely sub-Saharan African, how does your Eurasian DNA claim fit in? it's simple mathematics isn't it?
You cannot be completely of sub-Saharan DNA and still have Eurasian DNA



ps. We would still address how DNA originating from Eurasian entered fulani

PreciousBro:
Every Attempt By You To Sound Diplomatic Reveals Your Crafty Lines and Intention. Can't You See You Keep Dragging Something Of Less Importance all In The Bid To Derail This Thread ?

What Stupid Names, Who The Hell are You ?

Even a Lizard Gathers More Intelligence In Its Tail Than Your Entire Body. I'm Sure You Aren't Daft Enough To Know Knowledge Is Not Limited To Only One Person, Why Can't You Do Your Own Research and Present Here as a Counter Criticism ? It'd At Least Be Constructive.

Why Should I Take You Seriously, When Every Thing You've Done Here Is To Foolishly Criticise ,Incite Tribal Provocation and Brand Something You Haven't any Clue Nor Logical Facts To,as Fallacy ?

And Yes,This Thread Is about Igbo-Hebrew Genetic Relations as Evident By The Thread Title, You Obviously Don't Pay Attention and Its a Trait Of Low Intelligence Quotient(IQ)

Please Don't Quote Me Again,I Won't Be Nice.

And who are you? You can't come here making claims you can never back up
There are no geneticists that claim all what you have said, if you think otherwise provide the names of such geneticists
When people make discoveries they report with their names
Why is providing the names so impossible for you if you aren't just full of poo

Your insults are only a scheme to try to demoralise my agitation for truth, simple questions I ask you flare up, That shows you don't welcome scrutiny...obviously because it reviews your claims as fallacy

I have not incited any tribal provocation, show me where I did that you liar
Just like you lie against geneticists?

if this thread is strictly Igbo, it shouldn't have been moved to front page, neither should your fellow hebrats have mentioned fulani and Yoruba having Eurasian ancestry..you should have stuck with strictly Igbo-Hebrew since you take offence to non-Igbos mentioning Igbo
Hypocrite!

Ihuomadinihu:
So much ignorance on this page! People need enlightenment. All the can do is to sneak back and abuse people,when they are nothing but empty vessels.

A look at this thread we can see that it's you who abuse people with words like silly, stupidity, idiots, empty vessels yet you haven't backed up ur claims
You have a problem against questions and scrutiny, all those who question you must be idiots...that's insecurity

PreciousBro:
I Have No Doubt That You Are Talking Through Your Hat and Thus Your Comprehensive Deficiency Breeds Ignorance.

First@ Bolded, You Brand Something You Have No Iota Of Knowledge Of as Fallacy, Even Without Facts To Buttress Your Reason For Refuting. If That Isn't Notoriously Foolish Then Boko Haram Is The New Jesus.

Second, You Relentlessly Rant With Lies That I Have Branded You a Bigot, as Though You and I Have Had any Encounter Before Now ,Safe For This Thread Which I Pointed Your Distracting and Mindless aim To Disrupt This Thread and You have Proved That Countless Times With Your Irrelevance On This Said Thread.

Third, Again You Have Stupidly Failed To Get The Point and Hence Say We Claim To Be Hebrew By Ihuoma's Posts On The "Genetic Similarity" How Does That Make Me Proud ?
Surely ,By This Statement Of Yours, Its Evident That Something Pricks Your Mind. And You Seem To Read Peoples Mind aslo, That Must Be a Gift By Your Fallen god To You Huh ?

Now The Last Nonsense From Your Post Is Actually The Insult Here, I See No Reason Why a Non-Igbo Like You Should Profer Ways For Igbos To Acquire Information About Their Ancestral Heritage and Similarity In Connotion With Everything Relating To Their Genetics.

They Say Nothing Is Ever Free I'm Very Certain You Didn't Acquire Education. Except You Want To Tell Me It Was Freely Given Then I Can Only Imagine The Quality.

If it's not fallacy why haven't you provided what I asked? you and Ihuomadinihu. If not you would have provided the names of the geneticists that conducted the tests or the research institute that sponsored the testing
The authenticity of the specimen tested is also important, is it in the best position to stand for that entire ethnicity?
There is what I've been asking all along, until this is clear sorry your claims haven't been verified true
These are facts to buttress my reason for refusing your claims

Of course that's what you and Ihuomadinihu have resorted to - calling me an ethnic bigot when you cannot even provide one hate comment I made against the Igbo ethnicity

Of course it's disturbing that you think Hebrew origin an achievement

Again this isn't about Igbo but about blacks everywhere, it also concerns the Semites whom you try to connect to
Ihuomadinihu didn't only mention Igbo after all but tried to tell Yoruba and fulani origin too
You cannot take wrong channels and pass it to the world as authentic more so without clarification

chuna1985:
Yhere are hebrew tribes in Egypt, Mali, Ethopia n south Africa , u can make a research on a broader note for yourself .

I don't kno any Alusi dat ur talking about. All I kno is that igbos were circumsing their children n its not for fun. Its likely for a God, its obviously a blood convenant. Man has convenant with God.

Can you prove the bold? Any reference? Where did you get this from?

i hope u aren't mistaking here populations within native African tribes who just converted to judaism or recent migrants of fleeing Jews into South Africa

Let's just conclude that you don't know much about the circumcision

PreciousBro:
As Far as I am Concerned, I Think You Should Steer Clear Of This Thread. You Came With Vile Intentions and Obnoxious Motives and Believe Me It Is Transparent

I Don't Engage In This Condescending Demonstrations Of Tribal Feud Online. I am For Balance and That Is What This Thread Have Been Prior Your First Post With Base less and Distracting Arguments.

You Have Been The One Inciting Quarrel With Your Knack For Refuting Academic-Facts Without Facts,Stomping On Endless Need To Derail This Thread.

Speaking Of Seeking Info From My Elders ?

Ooh I See, I don't Need You Or Anyone To Guide My Channel Of Seeking Information Regarding My Tribe. I Do It How It Suits Me.

Me Hating My Tribe ? LoL

This Has To Be The Most Hilarious Lie and Self Adulated" Thought. I'm Sure You Know That's Not True

this is a public forum Mr.man. Sorry I know am a thorn in your flesh because you wish to have free space to keep peddling fallacies

you can't find fault in my post so you keep trying to brand me a bigot...severally you've done this with claims that I hate Igbos but can you bring up one post where I displayed hatred for Igbos or brought up any tribal feud? . This isn't even about Igbos or my Yoruba but about Africa in general

so questioning your Hebrew claim means I hate Igbos? I guess "Hebrew" is an achievement for you? A dream you wish for so badly..it's you who insults yourself
Instead of looking to your Igbo heritage for glories you are busy trying to steal a Hebrew connection
What academic fact? Nonsense from unreliable nairalanders claiming DNA of Yoruba is from Eurasians, didn't I ask you to provide the name of the geneticists and persons who provided the specimen tested...let's see how qualified such a geneticists are and how qualified such specimen is to speak for all Yoruba
And am still very much on the topic...I've not derailed at all
We are still discussing Hebrew-Igbo "possible" connection

Obviously if your channel is the fake DNA testing that has no authenticity that tell you I have some Eurasian ancestry then such channel is the worst
Internet will tell you that some strange people produced you and you believe...so disgusting!

You obviously have a problem with Igbo traditions that's why you running from it and prefer websites...I sense self hatred

Kizmarty:
flourish

Ok. how u kon learn Latin?

Kizmarty:
omor na truth I just talk o

Just curious. What does "floreat" in ur signature mean