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Lmao

You better create your Bini kingdom with your five local governments or so in Edo state

No be only Ekiti, Ondo, Itsekiri etc.. You don't like to extend to Senegal and Sudan?

Seun360:
I say a big Amen to this prayers.

I warned him and his supporters but they didn't listen.

The Sahkin of Fulani was born and bred here, his control of Yoruba language was impeccable.

You say Amen to a prayer for the worst to befall Igboho?
Mumu ni eleyi sha
So because a fulani patron can speak Yoruba that makes him more Yoruba than the people his boys were killing and kidnapping?

And someone like this calls himself seun?
Misplaced name

wolexter:
Hmmm....what people like Sunday and his supporters didn't realise is that no matter the situation you find yourself never take laws into your hands cos if you do you will face the full wrath of the law. Only jokers think they can fight and win the system. Las las na you go chop beans

Your type are the real jokers.
You say only jokers think they can fight and win an oppressive and bad system?
So instead you accept the system and do nothing?

You came to this world to suffer and put your entire lineage in the same suffering I see.
You have no initiative to make your society better and fight for a better life for your people?

FreeStuffsNG:
"In an emotion laden voice, he said anytime he remembers the January 22, 2021 incident, he always bursts into tears even as he maintained his innocence over the incidents of kidnapping and killings in the community.

He said, “It is on record that only three Yoruba persons were kidnapped in Igangan since the problem started; others were Fulani.

“I lost my younger brother in the process. We lost several of my kinsmen. You cannot even count the number of cows that were rustled. It was a sad moment for me. I lost everything I laboured for all my life and life has been extremely hard since last year when Sunday Igboho stormed my settlement.”

Speaking on the earlier quit notice issued by Igboho prior to his eviction, Sarki explained that he did not handle the eviction notice with levity and he got assurance from the state government after the quit notice, but he was surprised that Igboho carried out his threat without anybody challenging him.

He said, “For those seven days, the state government sent 14 police officers to us and they were guiding us but the police officers were overpowered by Sunday Igboho’s men. This is why I don’t support the call for the release of Igboho."

Igboho is a PDP creation and the unleashing of political killer herdsmen they tagged as Fulani because of PMB was an evil political gameplan to throw the SW into turmoil ahead of 2023 and make SW turn its back on APC as the Ondo election was approaching. But God took control and they lost as usual. The PDP used and dumped Igboho, unfortunately the lost lives can't be recovered. Suddenly, after his arrest, no more killer herdsmen and suddenly no more hate messages against the Fulani on the social media

I will urge this Sarkin to go to the human right commission and the courts. This is appalling and completely unacceptable.

All the enemies of Nigeria will lose las las. They always lose. God bless Nigeria forever

So Igangan (in Oyo State) killings by the fulani was orchestrated by PDP to win elections in Ondo.
Yet you fools are the ones who throw around the narrative that Yoruba subgroups are not united. Why would killings in Ibarapa influence voters in Ondo if these were not all a single united ethnicity?
There's never a consistent argument from you one Nigeria beggers.

You do APC a big disservice by presenting yourselves as people who have no empathy for Yoruba struggles. Not once have you spoken in defence of the Yoruba people but you want us to believe you have Yoruba best interest?
We are talking about Yoruba lives killed by fulani but you are bringing PDP rather than face the real issues.
Ojú ẹ ò ti là. Àwọn Fulani áa f'ojú ẹ rí nkan

pek:
Ballon D'or is full of controversies. 2003, it was awarded to Nedved instead of Henry. 24 goals and 20 assists from 37 league games was Henry's achievement that season. Nedved didn't come close. In 2010, Inter Milan won the treble, a certain Wesley Sneijder was unplayable that season, yet it was given to Messi. Lewandoski has stood head and shoulder above everyone in this planet. Scoring goals without a care and winning four trophies and individual awards along the way yet it was given to Messi for moving from Barcelona to PSG.

You will know someone who is significantly aged from comments like this. Reference to history and age-long criteria
Only children who started watching football from 2010 think Ballon D'or is the best individual award but it's not their fault because that's all they've known

Kingcalls:
The FIFA Best player of the year award was just concluded with the Polish and Bayern Munich record breaker claiming the award as the FIFA mens Best player for the year 2021 . The Polish striker defeated Lionel Messi and Mohammed Salah to record his 2nd FIFA Best award

The Balon D'or was also awarded a couple of months ago in November and the winner of that award went to the legendary Lionel Messi, with the second position going to the pole and 3rd went to double winner ( champions league and European cup) chelsea's Jorginho ... claiming his 7th Balon d'or

They have been arguments and counter arguments on who deserves it more and also about the award that is more prestigious...

HISTORY AND CONTROVERSY

The first ever Balon D'or was awarded to the late Sir Stanley Matthews in 1956 by A French football magazine based in France, over the years it was only won by Europeans , it was basically known as the European awards . In 1991 FIFA created its own award for outstanding players and it was called The FIFA world player of the year award with Lothar Matthäus winning the inaugural award .. So they were 2 awards that were given yearly ...Balon d'or started awarding non Europeans in 1995 and George Weah was the first non European to get the Balon d'or award, that was because they were already loosing credibility and interest from football lovers and that was because FIFA awarded 94 to Brazilian Romario, while Balon dor awarded Hristo Stiochkov of Bulgaria in the same year of 94. FiFa had taken total control of the award as Balon d'or was viewed as an European award or consolation award. Zinedine Zidane only won one Balon D'or Ronaldinho also won only one and Ronaldo de Lima only won 2 , the three balon dor we usually credit both players( Zidane and Ronaldo de Lima) with , were actually awards they won under FIFA Player of the year award, thats why players like Michael Owen, Andriy Shevchenko and Pavel Nedved that also won balon dor are not really recognised, thats because those were the same years Luis Figo, Zidane and Ronaldinho won the FIFA player of the year Award ... Lionel Messi was the last to win the FIFA player of the year award in 2009 before they merged in 2010 ... when they merged , that was when prestige and Glamour was attached to Balon D'or, and again being that FIFA adopted Balon D'ors golden ball plaque .... FIFA detached from Balon D'or in 2016 after Blatter was expelled cos they believed that decision of merging both was wrong ...

The FIFA Best Awards are voted by coaches and team captains of football nations under FIFA, while the Balon d'or is voted by journalists that are selected in nations under the governing body


These are the winners of FIFA player award since 91

1991 Lothar Matthäus Inter Milan

1992 Marco van Basten AC Milan

1993 Roberto Baggio Juventus

1994 Romário Barcelona

1995 George Weah AC Milan

1996 Ronaldo Barcelona

1997 Ronaldo Inter Milan

1998 Zinedine Zidane Juventus

1999  Rivaldo Barcelona

2000 Zinedine Zidane Juventus

2001 Luís Figo Real Madrid

2002 Ronaldo Real Madrid

2003 Zinedine Zidane Real Madrid

2004 Ronaldinho Barcelona

2005 Ronaldinho Barcelona

2006 Fabio Cannavaro Real Madrid

2007 Kaká ACMilan

2008 Cristiano Ronaldo Manchester United

2009 Lionel Messi Barcelona

2016 Cristiano Ronaldo Real Madrid

2017 Cristiano Ronaldo Real Madrid

2018 Luka modric Real Madrid

2019 Lionel Messi Barcelona

2020 Robert Lewandowski Bayern Munich

2021 Robert Lewandowski Bayern Munich

These are the winners of Balon D'or award since 91

1991: Jean-Pierre Papin (Marseille)
1992: Marco van Basten (AC Milan)
1993: Roberto Baggio (Juventus)
1994: Hristo Stoichkov (Barcelona)
1995: George Weah (AC Milan)
1996: Matthias Sammer (Borussia Dortmund)
1997: Ronaldo (Internazionale)
1998: Zinedine Zidane (Juventus)
1999: Rivaldo (Barcelona)
2000: Luis Figo (Real Madrid)
2001: Michael Owen (Liverpool)
2002: Ronaldo (Real Madrid)
2003: Pavel Nedved (Juventus)
2004: Andriy Shevchenko (AC Milan)
2005: Ronaldinho (Barcelona)
2006: Fabio Cannavaro (Real Madrid)
2007: Kaka (Milan)
2008: Cristiano Ronaldo (Manchester United)
2009: Lionel Messi (Barcelona)
2010: Lionel Messi (Barcelona)
2011: Lionel Messi (Barcelona)
2012: Lionel Messi (Barcelona)
2013: Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid)
2014: Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid)
2015: Lionel Messi (Barcelona)
2016: Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid)
2017: Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid)
2018: Luka Modric (Real Madrid)
2019: Lionel Messi (Barcelona)
2020: Cancelled because of Covid-19
2021: Lionel Messi (Paris Saint-Germain)

Now let's gather and give our verdict on the award thats more prestigious, The Balon D'or or FIFA Best player
Below images are the 97 player of the year held by Ronaldo
1998 held by winner Zidane standing with Ronaldo and Davor Suker
2001 held by winner Luis Figo with David Beckham and Raul Gonzalez
2004 Ronaldinho, 2016 Cristiano Ronaldo and the present new trophy held by modric in 2018

There's no controversy here.. Fifa best men is the more prestigious one
It's in the name.. It is Fifa and it's "best men"
If one said Ballon D'or is just cruise and a reason to gather for small chops, they wouldn't be wrong

mrvitalis:
Tell me are Ibadan people really Yoruba people because we are sure ijebu and aworis are not

someone decided to be foolish, you decided to be just as equally foolish.
Na wa

paulolee:
sure but the award is full of jokes,..why Gv Mendy best player n the same mendy no fit make team of the year best 11, wats d sense in dt??
DM nominate sallah as best 3 in d world n he didnt mk the team of the year n instead i de see cr7 dt even accepted dt last season was his worst season ever, na must say him go de dt list?
that joke no even mk any logical sense....

Abeg shift.
Different criteria for the two things you are noting. Individual awards is by vote. Best 11 is by accumulated match ratings for a player of that position

When Yoruba leave Nigeria, Nigeria will be alright.
There are people with a brain in other parts of the country too

We Yoruba will also be alright
Luxembourg is one of smallest countries in the world but they are doing very well... Infact very very well

TheSTreetman:
If the traditional rulers open their mouth to talk that rituals are fake then people will realize that they're just an ordinary men protected by nothing.

There are hidden ancient knowledge in traditions. Like knowledge of herbs and mixture of natural materials to produce an effect
Money ritual is not one of them.

You won't find any actual traditionalist endorsing it, its scammers but when you don't even know your traditions how would you know what is fake?

Jameseddi1:
Ozulua knows as conqueror he conquered 200 states even in that he was credited for Ewuare still outshine him Ewuare conquerd 201 202 Ewuare was also successful in trading Bight of Benin empire was bordering Cameron in the east bordering Gold cost/ Dahomey in west this as far as what Ewuare set

Smh

Lmao bight of Benin empire
What tha hell is that?

You are seriously confused. I'll leave you with your confusion

HardMirror:
gossip is the only proof they have. Once you make money, you must be a ritualist

You know the craziest thing in all this, they all secretly want to do it, some are doing it already still hoping money will still come out of it if they try one more time just like the guys in the OP
Some are keeping it as last resort, thinking if the suffering and poverty gets too much they will have no other option.
It's greed that fuels their campaign to keep the belief in money rituals alive.

Help2020:
I'm forced to ask,where is our traditional rulers? What role do they play in our society? Can't they just tell this babalawo to stop this nonsense?

No babaláwo does money ritual. Those are scammers and sickos not Babaláwo

Restroom:
Some people are generally stupid

That after commiting murder it work for them, means it don't work for others.

Where are they getting the money they suddenly use to buy big cars, build houses and blow away on parties?

Common sense is not really common

In an economy where there are no jobs, jobsless people without any visible means of income are millionaire s and some still say ritual don't work

That you say it don't work
Does mean it does not work

It is just a statement of error

You are a big fool I swear.

So your reason for believing money rituals by killing people works is that the economy is bad yet some people are buying cars and building houses?

You are literally accusing people who buy cars and build houses as ritual murderers??
You dey ment?

Jameseddi1:
Bro I understand you ododuwa only have power over ife. But Ewuare was in control of what is now know as south west south south south east Nigeria he was the reason night of Benin was named bro u should go true his story no king control a large trade than him and Mansa Musa was the greatest forget Ododuwa he only gave birth to most king but he only have control over ife. Not like Ewuare who it down to lagos east boder by cameroon down to bight of Benin to the south ocean

This is not true by objective observation of the relics of those periods
We have evidence that Ife's influence and trading outposts during the century oduduwa must have reigned reached as far north as modern Kwara and Kogi states. That's why it was easy for his household members as well as those of other powerful figures in Ife could just walk up to places and set up dynasties.
This is largely a new study but from observation of evidence that survive from this period.

Secondly, Ewuare was not even the most powerful Bini ruler. Bini at its height was not Ewuare's reign
The height was the Ozolua to Ehengbuda reigns
The significance of Ewuare is that he set the stage for the later Obas. What you are doing is giving credit for the exploits of other Obas to Ewuare

@bold, lmao. That's just false. The entire Benin empire did not even have such a size. Cameroon ke?

Lol
You people really don't know anything outside your small Bini to think Ewuare was the greatest King in West Africa. If wealth, power and significance of reign is greatness

Where do you put Askia Mohammed, Sunni Ali, Mansa Sakura, Mansa Musa, Sundjata Keita, Idris Alouma, Oduduwa, Tunka Manin, Sultan Bello?

Torylanez:
And the south east cared ?
They don't chase power ? Then why are they blackmailing Nigeria with secession because of lack of juicy appointment?

Which progress does southeast has despite been enslaved by PDP for 16yrs ?

What's my business with this post?

Who are the media outlets that actually keep giving this man a medium to spew trash?

So called Islamic calendar is Arab calendar, the emphasis on "Islamic" is less on religion and more on the era it was put into effect.
As there is pre-Islamic and Islamic eras

Torylanez:
Am now asking u , when una get Igbo as service chiefs
Wetin e do for your region ?

Also , when Hausa people doesn't men at the helms of affairs and when they had , what was their benefits?

Plus am not Hausa nor Fulani

You ethnic jingoists think by putting your so called " people there " anything will change

Now Hausa people get people there now , what has changed ?

That is because the north doesn't care.
They simply want to control others, their orientation is not one where they chase after progress and development.. They chase after power

nero2face:
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2022/01/restructuring-my-problem-with-south-east-buhari/

This man thinks restructuring is call for extra state creation

Who are the fools who voted for this calamity

valirex:
Oga maturity extend this maturity to your Oni he needs it more

have you finished expressing your frustration and pains?

valirex:
Ask the boy you call Oni

Anger and frustration at your lack of any facts and logic
Insulting Yoruba obas when no Yoruba insults the omonoba

You can tell you lot still lack maturity and all this is just a tantrum

saddler:
It doesn't matter that Yoruba revisionists are more on nairaland and when you all come together to say the same thing even if incorrect, lies, or half-truths.

I guess this makes all of you feel good that you are in greater numbers and anything anyone of you says will be supported by all of you.

It doesn't change the truth from what it is. An argument won on nairaland doesn't mean you were right

Lmao keep quiet
Present facts and logic

Arguments are never won with numbers but facts and logic

You have none and you know none exist but you prefer to still be delusional that even in the absence of any facts from you and presentation of the facts by others, you are somehow the one who is still correct
Better take it easy, that's how mental problems start

christistruth01:
Happy New year !!

This is your fried rice


CC Udele1, Blessedom,Tao11, render1,Olu317,,Samuk,gregboy,Areafada,Macof,

lol.
Happy New year to you too

Lol. To be semitic means to be given the right place in the comity of nations

Rilwayne001:
This isn’t so, if it was so, then definitely other Muslim players playing in the premier league would be following suit in order to follow this your supposed ‘herd’ mentality. Even Paul pogba with his more affiliation to Christianity with his name isn’t painting the same elaborate picture like Salah did. Definitely he’s doing it to score a cheap point. I’m not mad at him or have any issue with him for what he did, rather it oozes more of hypocrisy on his part.

If he converted to Christianity, it’s his life and can go ahead to do whatever makes him sleep. But you hardly see Christians, especially the popular, like Ronaldo, Messi, Eden Hazard etc do all these during the Eid. You may argue the Eid isn’t as popular as Christmas in the west, but the same argument can be applied to Salah here.

If truly his intention isn’t to be hypocritical, simply wishing his Christian friends happy Christmas is more than enough than this charade. He simply just want to be in the news, by angering his Muslim supporters (knowing fully well they’d be disappointed), and gaining the appeal of his Christian supporters while giving them the opportunity to see, insult and taint Islam in bad light from the utterances he’d definitely generate from his angered Muslim fans. This is already obvious on this thread and on the twitter page.

Apparently this is hypocrisy and deliberate attempt to cause rift. It’s not what the world needs right now.

1. You just see people and assume their religion.
2. Christmas can be and is Infact celebrated by non-Christians
3. Moh doesn't have to "not" do things because no other Muslim has done it.
4. If he converts he doesn't need to inform anyone of it

If people want to piss themselves because of a family man chooses to enjoy a holiday, then it's on them, whatever rift is on them
Because if anything, Moh should be seen as spreading tolerance, integration and happiness.

Rilwayne001:
He’s an hypocrite.

He’s better off converting to Christianity than doing all these yearly charade.

You never even see other Christian football celebrate Eid in the same light the way he celebrates Christmas.

And all these people praising him are doing so because he’s celebrating their stuffs. If it’s the other way round from one of the people they love, they’d be the first to condemn such person.

Most Christian sect don’t even celebrate Christmas because they see it as alien to the teachings of Christ.

But then it’s whatever makes everyone sleep at night, we just don’t have to be hypocritical about things.

Except you are looking at it from your environment steeped in religious fragmentation.
Christmas in the UK where Moh works for years now is a culture and social phenomenon that is even removed from religion by most.
Imagine his daughters going to school and when every other British kid is talking about what they did for Christmas they will say "father doesn't let us celebrate Christmas because it's Haram"

saddler:
Where did you dig up these new lies about Oduduwa from?

You accuse the other guy of being a revisionist and yet out of the blue you come up with a new story about the origin of Oduduwa completely different from what has been promoted and written over the years.

What happened to the story of Oduduwa coming from Mecca?

And the believe by yoruba cultural traditions that he fell from the sky?

If you have always been ignorant of Oduduwa's history that's on you.
Yoruba traditions are clear for those who wish to learn. There has never been a reference to mecca.
That is as much a bad and tasteless narrative as your silly Bini ekaladaran one.

As for oduduwa coming from the sky, all orisha are said to be heavenly beings but when those with historical curiosities probe they find very earthly locations connected to the Òrìṣà in the same tradition.
Please tell me where again did your Pa Idu come from according to Edo traditions?

UGBE634:
Go and check the size of the seven local government areas in Edo south. Edo south is about ten thousand seven hundred kilometres2 . Remove the other minute cultures in Edo south, and see it is close to two times the size, whichever way we say it, it is safe to say Bini speaking land is bigger than Rome metropolitan. That was Samuk initial argument before your intentional endless clueless drag. Take care.

Second paragraph

Let me see you compare all these places with Italy

I don't even need to check anything because I have addressed this.
Compare things in the same category
There are Roman cities and settlements outside the city of Rome all over Italy called Domina Provinciarum. So compare the right things if you dare

UGBE634:
As I have told you before that is not the point of my argument, I won't want to deviate from my point. Benin kingdom or Bini land whichever one you choose to sit with, and Rome metropolitan, which is bigger.The remnants of Bini kingdom or land is bigger obviously but you choose to deviate from the point and argue around the point slow you! Take care

Edo south which is more than 90%Bini is twice the size of Rome metropolitan. Die if you want to!

And I have addressed this.

Apply same logic to Rome and Romance language speakers.

You can't give Rome a handicap by restricting it to the city alone and say you are comparing it to everywhere Bini speaking people are. Compare city to city, old empire to old empire or speakers to speakers

Even at that you have yet to provide official measurements for Bini speaking areas. So under what authority are you saying Bini speaking areas are 2x larger than Rome?

You people need to seek help o

UGBE634:
It seems more than ever you would pass as a clown, the same you that wrote me Bini was never an empire ;Dthat she was a kingdom at best with Imperial influence, what you said is what I meant with all sincerity, even in her weakest days, she was part of the Bini empire even the Afenmai, but today she is no longer part of it. I told you also that if you won't accept kingdom, what he meant was the Entire Bini speaking land( I won't be so bothered with whichever you choose, I just want to drive home my point ) and it will be safe to call it Remnant because it is unlike the Yorubas where the Ooni is ceremonial beyond Ife. Edo there means the king of all Edo and not of Benin city. And yes Edo south is two times the size of metropolitan Rome

This is what i said

macof:
The question now is - sent for from where? I would even add why?
You can't just come and conjure your imagination and say because history doesn't deal with absolutes therefore you keep claiming the same thing that doesn't add up. At least make the narrative have substance so we can know what leads to follow

And I really don't mean this disrespectfully but Benin has never been a mighty empire... A strong and wealthy kingdom with some imperial significance yes but when we line up MIGHTY Empires, we shouldn't be throwing Benin in there so as not to make African history seem disjointed and disorderly.
For context it's like talking about European history and saying Prussia was a mighty empire...no!

I really can't argue against itsekiri ever being part of the Benin empire.. As I said if this was ever the case, it would have been early on around that 15th - 16th century .. Because much later the Portuguese and British clearly deal with Warri as an independent kingdom
For a while Warri was West Africa's Kongo in the sense of how much influence Portugal had on the kingdom, you can't compare that relationship with Esan or Bini. If Portuguese people were like you they would be claiming Itsekiri were under Portugal

apparently you lack comprehension because i even went the extra mile to emphasize on the word "mighty" but the whole idea flew over your head.

Anyway clearly as i have already said, you guys have no case in your absurd comparison to Rome. so this is just an attempt to run around the subject.
but be calming down. stop doing drugs if you do because this one na real ment