₦airaland Forum

akomst:
This a story not an historical fact. Its reeled with contradiction and at best not coherent. Its more of a Yoruba bragging than an exercise to lay down facts. I would recommend you read any good Yoruba history book than this junk.

What contradiction? Wats wrong with people trying to turn ilorin into a fulani city?
You forget there's more Yoruba presence in the town?

Baba Eku'se o.. Ejo se olosanyin ni yin ni abi ewo?

Nigeria is not one, stop ur delusions

MrPresident1:
Oduduwa did not come from Benin, Oduduwa came from the East, Heaven. Oduduwa is also the progenitor of the Bini: and they all came from heaven. I can prove it from the Bible.

You deranged man again.

Dragonking:
No matter what, you can never hide the truth..this is a picture in Ilorin...Doesn't this look like a view you will see in the north? You will never see an image like this in any other Yoruba state except kwara..why? The Fulani's rule you just accept.

That's a view of an Islamised city not a fulani city. If anything we should see Arab influence cus that's Arab architecture not fulani

Anago is a major Yoruba subgroup in Benin republic
Much of this group make up the Yoruba slaves taken to the Americas and formed many religious societies
I think they were known as olukumi before, Anago sounds unyoruba and probably given by Fon, Ewe people or French

jazzydee:
[size=20pt]Revisionist historian all lies, the fulani conquered ilorin and led a jihadist movement that conquered the yourba you cant rewrite historical facts that has already been established.[/size]

I just don't know why some bigot Igbos think they know Yoruba history more than Yorubas
Considering some Igbos are losing touch with their own history and find solace in Hebrews
Go address your burning house before talking Yoruba

Dragonking:
are the Fulani's not in charge of kwara state?

No. The Yoruba are both in linguistics and politics
This fulani factor in ilorin is over flogged, it was a case of Yoruba muslims with help from fulani slaves against Yoruba pagans

healthFirst:
Rara o, emi o ki se olosanyin, ati wipe ori afefe kii se ibi to gba wa laye lati so oro nipa osanyin.

O da, o ye mi.
Oodua gbe wa

Remii:
in other words, Yoruba ronu, Agbaje is becoming another Afonja

Actually it's more like Tinubu

lekahm:
BUT WHY DON'T WE HAVE HAUSA'S IN KWARA NOW?

there were bariba, nupe and fulani slaves too, years of mixing have caused the nupe and hausa families to die out I think
I know some Bariba families in Ilorin, full bariba speaking the language but you can't even see fulani speaking fulah in ilorin

Demmzy15:
Emir is just a rough name of 'Amir' in Arabic, it means a 'leader'. So it's the influence of Islam not Fulani, Islam wasn't brought to yoruba land by the Fulanis but by the influence of the 'Songhai' empire in Mali. Yoruba Muslims have existed 100s of years before the birth of Uthman bin Foodee(Dan Fodio). So people claiming the Fulanis forced Islam on Yorubas is a big lie!

Not so, the first Yoruba Muslim lived in Afonja's time - Solagberu
any Muslim prior to that time were slaves not Yoruba

Texcoco:
[color=#1980BC] [b] This is historical revisionism at best....we all saw what happened.The Marabout,Shiek Alimi was sent for to look after the spiritual needs of Hausas and Nupe Muslims,these muslims make up the entire cavalry wing of Alaafin's army, based in frontier town Illorin.Afonja in cahoots with Alimi exploited these elite horsemen to his military advantage against his master afterwhich Alimi keen to oversee an Islamic Emirate and spark a jihad conspired with his son Abubabkr to strangle Afonja(in his palace) thus taking not only control of the area but also the souls of the indigenes....these converted indigenes were the cannon fodder with which a jihad sprang out and nearly swept SW Nigeria.....It was only halted by disagreement amongst the muslim forces as to the formula of sharin yoruba war slaves and booty,the very forested area south of Illorin which made it impossible to lead a cavalry charge as it was in the flat Savanaah range of North central Nigeria and concerted efforts by rival pagan yoruba chiefs to fight a common enemy..........Town after town fell to these Jihadists until there was talk of touching the Quran inside the Atlantic this not only increased their fervour but made them undergo severe hardships. Alas they had no answer to the environment,the tse-tse flies which infected and killed off their horses with trypanosomiasis(sleeping sickness)..without which they were unable to sweep and put to flight pagan yoruba armies.Some jihadists made good infantry men but not all could fight on the ground,so after a military defeat borne from low morale and homesickness, a general call was sounded out for retreat and consolidation thus Illorin carved out yorubaland including environs of present day Kogi state up to Idah to the east and Aladja in present day Northern Benin Republic to the west became an Islamic Emirate...[/b] [/color]

This is still the best piece of information on ilorin on nairaland, OP did a good job...it's not revolutionary

And from what I know Afonja wasn't strangled at his house but killed in ambush by Spears fired by Muslim terrorists for not being "Islamic"

the jihad was halted by Ibadan army not sickness or savannah nonsense you just said.
is ilorin a desert?
Ilorin's height was eastern igbomina Towns in Kwara state...not even an inch of Idah or modern Benin republic was under threat from Ilorin...stop making things up

oathman:
What u fail to realise is that ilorin is a border between the north and the south. Are ona kankafo was sent to war by Alaafin but he failed nd he can't go back to Oyo so he settled down at the border. Alaafin thought he betray him nd wage war against his best warrior. Are ona kankafo realising that the Oyo empire ll defeat him, ask for support and Alliance from the north( not only the fulanis but also the nupes otherwise known as tapa in yoruba) wch re predominantly muslims. To cut my long story short, after the war the ilorin town bcums a settlement for all of them. The fulanis were more organised than the yorubas due to there ways of lyf, they pray togeda, they have Amir(later bcum Emir) nd by this they were able to convert majority of the yorubas to muslims, so when Are ona kankafo died and they av to choose a leader, due to the fact dat majority are now muslims they chose there Amir to be the leader.......PROUD ILORIN BOY

Actually he carried out the order and returned to his home in Ilorin, as Baale of Illorin and Are Ona Kankanfo he lived outside Oyo-ile
he told the Oyo mesi all the ridiculous things Alaafin Awole told him to do and said he had had enough. The oyo mesi also finding other faults with Awole like cursing and aggression later removed the Alaafin prompting his suicide as was tradition
but before that, Afonja had already made plans for Ilorin's independence...this didn't include calling on other nations but he used slaves of Hausa, fulani and Nupe descent and Yoruba muslims led by Solagberu
That's why Awole cursed Afonja to be slaves to slaves before he died


Never have majority of Yorubas been muslims...unless you mean those who relocated to Ilorin cus all of them were muslims not just majority
Islam made them betray their nation Oyo


The first invitation of the sultanate to Ilorin was by Abdulsalami, son of Alimi to build up after initial attacks from other Yoruba nations

@OP Fulani from sokoto did join Ilorin to invade Yorubaland but thanks to Ibadan they were dealt with and the Yoruba traitors caught were beheaded

Baba Eku'se o.. Ejo se olosanyin ni yin ni abi ewo?

We believe in Olodumare as the creator that is present in everything, Ifa as his/its/her message through Orunmila B.A. This is as typical and average as you can get

It's suppose to be the home of the bride. Did your ancestors leave their village to get wedded in a foreign land? Pls receive the blessing of your family and your mothers
But then it could be ok if the major and important family members are in Lagos

And the counter thread is here...

Mynd44:
Constitutionally, he is the Oba of Lagos state. Not just the Island.

Go and read the Lagos constitution.


Do you ever wonder why his Iyaloja is the Iyaloja of the whole state?

Lagos state constitution my foot, that's messed up if true
And that's why he's do desperate to ripe where his fathers did not sow

Oba of Eko has no authority over Onikoyi, Oniru, Onisiwo, Oloto, Ojora, Elegusi, Ayangburen, Akran of Badagry
Traditionally Oloto is even superior

Scharck:
I mean! Acquire witchcraft by buying cheap things in the market. Who no be witch then

very funny

Those are even wrong answers

iluvweed:
Why wont the OBA be angry? When one foolish man (JK) said " Igbo developed and controlled Lagos" Now how is this possible? Cos all the flat heads I see around me are either Yahoo boys, Thieves, Blood money ritualist, 419ners, drug pushers, or kidnappers!...So how have they developed and controlled lagos? with PIRACY?








AMBO Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

post a video of Agbaje saying those words or in Akiolu's voice "you will perish in the lagoon"

Mynd44:
The Oba of Lagos is the Oba of all of Lagos

By Lagos, it is Eko...which is Lagos island
Not all of Lagos state

victorels:
I said this earlier.

The Oba said Jimi is his relative.

No he's not. They have no connection at all

people deceiving themselves in this country

You are first your tribe/ethnicity before Nigerian, then west African even before African

All this delusional people like don jazzy speaking through the anus

What does don jazzy know about politics...mumu no go stay for studio

Akiolu has been an APC supporter since Tinubu and pls he's not related to Agbaje

Ihuomadinihu:
Don't be so hard bro! Both Igbos,Yorubas,Efiks and Akans are all in this together snice they share similar ancestry.

You forgot Gbe speakers(Fon, Ewe, Aja), Igala, Idoma and Edoid people

am not hard am only looking for answers, we can't just accept everything we read on the internet

Radoillo:
It's hard to keep up with you, bruv. First, Igbos belong to the tribe of Gad, now they belong to the tribe of Ephraim? Let's keep the story straight, shall we?

It's a wonder
They have no straight path to follow knowing all roads lead to a dead end on this Hebrew claim

bigfrancis21:
Not necessarily migrated from Israel but from Egypt during the time of stay of the ancient hebrews in Egypy, given the manifestation of Egyptian influence on Igbo Ukwu pottery and similar pyramid structures between the Igbo pyramids and the steppe pyramids of egypt.

Notice that hebrew is pronounced natively as 'ibri' in hebrew language and the language is pronounced as 'ibrit'/'ibrit'. You need no soothsayer to point out the striking similarity to 'ibo'/'igbo'.

Egyptian influence on Igbo Ukwu? And Egyptian pyramids in igboland? Seriously? I've never heard this
You have images?
And btw what's to say Igbo weren't the originators of such art design?
Anyway am sure you have images right?


I thought Igbo don't call themselves "ibo"

Ibri/Ivri means the Traverse, referring to Hebrew ancestors coming from the other side of the Euphrates river ie. Mesopotamia
What does Igbo mean?

And according to Hebrew legends, all of the house of Jacob left Egypt with Moses, none stayed and went a separate way. So you must be mistaken

Tattooboy:
If the allegation is true then that's really a dissappointin one from a Leader of Akiolu's'caliber

Very true..haven't u seen the video?
Btw the man just thinks he is so powerful butin reality not so much

madridguy:
It is right time the Federal government will address this issue..I think the government need to implement a stiffer law to curb the piracy....I think our government need to apply some chinese law in some aspect here...I remember a piracy lord " King Of Piracy " boasting a while ago that no one can arrest him as his doing is normal business..I hope our government can set up a plan to support our film-maker so that they can compete with their counterpart across the globe....

Vote apc
Vote ambode

Apc have no agenda for the entertainment sector
PDP had but were not allowed to implement by APC