₦airaland Forum

johnydon22:
..hahahahahahahahahahaha so brahman is a gravitational singularity or an entity which is it?

Your problem here is that you don't even know what the word "entity" means
You probably think it's about a material object with a personality

Single emotions are entities, thoughts are entities, expressions are entities...Gods in spirituality are Expressions
Expression of different aspect of Nature

When did tribalism become a bad thing Why do these delusional folks like to spew nonsense? Do you wish cultures to die, heritage to be lost, history to be forgotten, traditions to be displaced for some imaginary "One Nigerian Identity"

I am Yoruba by what my creator made me, the British made me Nigerian...so it's Yoruba all the way and Nigeria comes second

We must safeguard our identity, does a typical Hausa man want to lose the Hausa language and adopt some imaginary "Nigerian language"

Unless all ethnicities are willing to stop being different ethnicities and become "One Nigeria" there would always be tribalism...Ethnic Bigotry is the problem but tribalism

Unless All Languages spoken within this Nigerian boarder can go extinct and all does speak "Nigerian" there would always be tribalism

Unless we all forget our history and remember only what we have from 1914, there would always be tribalism


Stop Deceiving yourselves!

Champele:
i disagree with you. My sister is married to a beast but because f culture she remain with him,is she not depress? ,the other is married to a man who lives abroad that keep promising to take her along since 5yrs ago,is she not feeling lonely. Brother i see no reason to get married. Im a young chap trying to make it and keep falling back because of family problems. I will never make such a mistake of getting married.that's all,

there's no African culture that requests a woman to suffer physical abuse from her husband..at least I don't know of any

That's only prevalent in Muslim middle eastern countries

Champele:
That's Nigerian mentality.

Nah, human mentality

Champele:
ina ekwuheri. Even if i want kids,i can have them without marriage. I believe the op. Marriage is the worst thing that happened to many people i know. As im writing this,my sister is crying,guess what?! Her husband don beat her again. Nonsense!

those who fail in marriage are weak and honestly not intelligent...sorry but it's true...

If not, they would know to learn to be patient and know their partner's background, personality and ambitions
marriage however is a wonderful thing, it's a taboo to have children with just anyone you meet off the street, you need to bond..marriage isn't just wedding, many marriages never involved a wedding ceremony but there must be a bond between the two and an agreement for the future together

There are men who have 5 wives and 20children, they all live in peace, comfort and harmony...that's the strength of a REAL MAN, WOMEN AND SIBLINGS

don't take it the wrong way but ur sister made a mistake of a man not a mistake of marriage

9jacrip:
Olowu is first class because the crown given to the first Olowu by Oduduwa remains at Owu Ipole, an ancient Owu town after or before (depends on the direction you're coming from) Ikire, Apomu and Ikoyi.

Oyo ile was destroyed but Alaafin at ago oja is regarded as first class because he retains the crown still.

Honestly I don't know much about Owu..their settlements are so many and I don't quite understand their migratory pattern but one thing I know is that Olowu resides in Abeokuta where Alake serves as foremost ruler
It's a big blow for the Olowu

9jacrip:
How did they drop?
I'm curious.

Maybe Olowu because of the original Owu town getting sacked but upon migration to Owu Ipole, they took their crown with which is still in use.

The crown which was originally given by Oduduwa himself to Olowu and with Olowu being the son of the first child of Oduduwa makes Olowu office a first class. The egbon of every other king.

well in Egbaland, Alake is mostly taken above Olowu because of the Owu's late coming to the area and it was Alake that gave permission for their stay
How far can Olowu claim first class in Yorubaland when Alake assumed first class position is debatable

you know it's a horrible thing for your kingdom to get utterly destroyed, same happened to onipopo

Hanibal:
when Oyo was an empire, all of yoruba land was under the Alaafin.
including the Ijebus although they were rebels.... It was the rebellion of the Ekitis and Ijeshas that led to the famous Kiriji war.
As for Oranmiyan... he ruled in Oyo Ajaka... not in the present day Oyo ile.
Oranmiyan was long dead before Oyo became an empire.
Okay... maybe U will agree with me if I said Alaafin "was once" the paramount ruler of yoruba land.
cant go into the historical detail of the Ibaribas... too lazy to type sorry.

You obviously know nothing about Ekiti.
When I say not all Ekiti was under Oyo, best you make ur research if it's too strange for you to believe

Let me tell you the major Ekiti Towns Oyo put into tributary
Aramoko, Ijero, Ido, Osi & Ifaki (which were under Ido), Igede etc. all in western Ekiti.. places like ado, ikere, ikole, oye were never under Oyo

Ekiti Parapo was formed to fight off Ibadan who were terrorising the place trying to pick off from where Oyo stopped, Oyo empire was down already ..before this time Ekiti was not one nation but 16 different nations plus Ijesa

aren't Oyo ajaka and Oyo-ile the same

hercules07:
Shymmex and his Ibadan wahala, in truth, the Olubadan is not a first class Oba if we are to go by Yoruba tradition, he owes his allegiance to the Alaafin of Oyo. The Alaafin is the first of first class obas, he is followed by his brothers, as far as I am concerned the Ooni is not a first class Oba by our tradition, he is a babalawo or chief priest. The awujale should be accorded his rights as a first class Oba by Yoruba tradition as the ijebus were not really part of the hinterland yorubas and were great warriors.

OMG! this ignorance on the throne of Ife is bigger than I thought

Do you know?
1. Oduduwa throne is occupied by the Ooni aka Olufe
2. The first person titled "Ooni" Adimula was a descendant of Oduduwa, Infact heir to the throne even before his birth but some people wanted to cheat him off his birthright just because his mother was a slave
3. Oranmiyan returned to Ife and became Ooni
4. All Ooni since then share common descent from Lajamisan son of Oranmiyan...that's why many regard this as Lajamisan Dynasty

People please, Ife people wouldn't have let any tom, dick and Harry become King ...even today Adimula's name is not in the list of Oonis because not all people accepted him

omonnakoda:
Things develop with need and circumstances. I tend to See Yoruba as the Lingua franca of the SW rather than language. There is a very strong human tendency to identify with Language but Jesus spoke Aramaic which was also the Linguafranca of Babylon.Who speaks it today.? Very few and it is much changed. That is the nature of the Human journey looking forward not back.I think Yoruba language is endangered We hardly read in it we don't count in it and we are not adopting it to new technologies or science or law so I think it will die out maybe not totally but it will die out before Hausa if we remain in Nigeria . That is quite clear

Another reason why Nigeria and all these colonial boarders should be dismantled

reborn1:
You are absolutely right. The Ojoras, Onikoyis, Onirus, Aromire, Oluwas and even the Otos are just watching by the sides which is very bad.

I just don't know what is wrong with them, it's because of their inaction that People say Lagos is no man's land

DollyParton1:
Not all of them. Egba is divided into areas, those of the Ake areas are the indigenous egba. Others are from Ibadan as you put it, they ran to egba for refuge and were accepted allocated to different areas. Thats how the name "Egba" came about, and why Alake of Egba Land is the paramount ruler of Egba. He is a first class King.

I think Ake settled in Ibadan at a time too, it shouldn't be just "others" like you said
You know the home of Egba during Lisabi's time is in modern Oyo state

Btw There's something going round that Ake are from Ketu in Benin republic..how true is this?

saxywale:
Ife is sitting on treasures and so many hidden Yoruba history.

Honestly the Osun state government should do something about this
Ile-Ife has so much hidden history in arts and possible fossils waiting to be excavated

Hanibal:
Guy be humble enough to learn from that man you quoted.
Thats some true history lessons there.
The Alaafin is the paramount ruler of yoruba land... Egba.. ijebu ijesha Ekiti etc etc.
As for ur question... d answer is long ane im too lazy to type.
Im sure the guy u quoted will answer you.

who granted the Alaafin rulership over other Obas?
Ijebu wasn't under Oyo and nt all of Ekiti was either...I don't know about Ijesa
Anyway Oyo is no longer an empire, all Obas to their jurisdiction

Even if u learn about Oranmiyan it's clear he was young and being pushed around a lot by his brothers...how can he be above Ajagunla Orangun who helped him fight off the Baribas? Or Ooni who sent him to Bini?
Or Awujale who didn't seem to mind other Yorubas imperial agendas

seunfly:
For instance Deji of Akure in not bigger than Osamawe of ondo but since akure in the capital and Deji is the king of Akure, his throne overshadow the king of ondo town.

Who told you Deji and Osemawe are mates? Deji is a Leopard in that region of Yorubaland...and it's not about modern development but hundreds of years history

SirShymexx:
Lol.

Don't let us derail the thread - but Oba of Lagos is still only the Oba of Lagos Island, or maybe Aworiland. I don't think he is the Oba of the whole state.

It is not a political title. You can't extend ya traditional title beyond ya jurisdiction.

Even in all Aworiland there are Obas that should be above Oba of Lagos...when did Oba Ado settle in Eko that his descendants should be taken above the landowners?

an Oba like Olotto, the sit of the founder of the Aworis is bigger than Oba of Lagos

Mynd44:
What do you call a "First class king"? There are only 5 or so first class kings in Yorubaland and the Oba of Lagos is not even one

Surely there are over 12 first class obas..they used to be 16 but some like Olowu, onipopo and onisabe have dropped

aim5:
First off, Oshiomole is from Edo North and most of them try so hard to fit in with Yoruba people. And with the Omo N'Oba N'Edo Uku Akpolokpolo, that could be up for debate. And as for the brotherhood, I just don't see how , except for Binis and some Edo North folk.

But the connection between Edo and Yoruba are undeniable. Not that Edo are Yoruba but very close
Anyway let's stop the hate

TheBlue5:
I do not care about "capitalisation" your making a big deal out of nothing. Who cares if someone types "Elohim" instead of " elohim" and vice versa gosh.

My point exactly, maybe there's something in ur head after all.

Elohim or elohim, God or god it makes no difference

TheBlue5:
And again a legit website will not report something that is false.

It reported a claim, a claim that hasn't been proven true
It was just a measure for publicity
How don't you get this?

aim5:
I'm very proud of my heritage. I come from a lineage of warriors and honorable men. It doesn't bother me if you appreciate your culture, just don't try and push your Yoruba propaganda towards Edo people, that's all.

Good,stick to urs and stop the hate.
What propaganda? Is it propaganda that omo n'oba is shares ancestry with Yoruba kings? Is is propaganda that many Edos have Yoruba names? Is it propaganda that many Edos speak Yoruba no matter how small including your governor?
is it propaganda we learn about edo when growing up, such that we see u as brothers? Sorry o, go fight history

what political gain do u think a small population of edo can offer a vast population of Yorubas?

TheBlue5:
Do I care? No. This has nothing to do with me correcting you about what Micah 4:5 says

Do you mind telling us the technical difference between God and god besides ur religious sentiments
It's like saying there's a difference between Cat and cat
Infact in correct English all nouns are supposed to be capitalised

In the original Hebrew there was no capitalisation problem with the word "Elohim" used in Micah 4:5
You are Jewish right, u should know this already pls



it remains Every nation to it's God

TheBlue5:
lol desperate Yoruba man hunged up on one word:

re·port
rəˈpôrt/
verb
past tense: reported; past participle: reported
1.
give a spoken or written account of something that one has observed, heard, done, or investigated.

check for REPORTEDLY

TheBlue5:
Well, God did told Abraham that his descendants will be like the 'stars' and the 'Sand of the sea shore', I don't think that number of people will fit into modern-day Israel.

Secondly, most of the times the Israelites get into trouble they will sometimes flee into Africa. Like Jesus went to Africa, So, somebody must have stayed behind.

Thirdly, God said he will scatter the Israelites throughtout the four corners of the Earth, so there is most likely one lost tribe of Israel, per country, tribe, and language. And it's only natural they will blend in with the people they're surronded by mixing in with them and still having the Y-chromosome of their original father.

how many promises did ur god fail to deliver on to Abraham?
check out Genesis 15:18-21 for one more failed promise
I would advise you don't let us go down the road of religion and all this god talk


this fleeing you are referring to was always to Egypt as u pointed, today lost Jewish clans exist in Egypt, Morocco and in and around Arabia but not in sub-Saharan Africa

Btw the earth doesn't have corners

TheBlue5:
The Israel news would not have reported it if it was not true, they would of went and see it for themselves first.

If this was true the word "reportedly" wouldn't have been used

TheBlue5:
Micah 4:5 says this:

Micah 4:5

5 For all people walk each in the name of his god,
But we will walk in the name of the Lord our God
Forever and ever.

Does not say every people to their God

I call it the Jewish god
capitalisation makes no difference to intelligent people

Elohim is elohim, Jews don't even take capitalisation in Hebrew it's a Christian English thing

Funjosh:
Still. Looking for. THe. Day. Nigeria will Become. One

SHe ask for. Advice. All. These. Mumu turn. Thhhe. Threadd. To. Tribal. WaR..

keep looking till you die
Nigeria can never become one, if it was ever intended it would have happened in the last 100yrs

fishbone11:
You can see the binis have a very good contributions to the existence of Lagos as an entity. Even the first king of Lagos was from Benin. Although the first inhabitants of Lagos are the Aworis, but today so many different tribes has occupied Lagos to the extent that the Aworis are not fully recognized.

just note that Lagos here is the Lagos island not Lagos state


Aworis are still important o, don't underestimate landowners..although it's not only Awori found in Lagos state

DavidJohnDavid:
Are Edo people really the masters in witccraft, voodoos, mammywater worshipping, jazz?
I've heard this a lot of time, how true is it?

Senseless question

aim5:
Listen, it's not hatred. I don't despise Yorubas, I just find their ignorance and superiority complex to be very annoying.

Maybe u don't feel proud of urself, but most Yoruba do
We are cultural people and are proud, we know our language and know our history
So it's not our fault you see superiority each time you look at us

barrnchedo:
Please help save me from this agony. My husband is from Edo State while I am Yoruba. I work in Edo State Civil Service Commission. My fellow Staff have not accepted me as one of them. They even said that there is no Edo person in my home State Civil service (Ekiti State). I have done everything to please them, yet they keep hating me. Am extremely nice to all. What do I do?

They see superiority in you, when people hate you for no reason...or simply because of ur ethnicity then they have issues
Be proud, those scums are beneath you so if I was you I would be even happier being Yoruba gives people sleepless nights and endless worries and fear

We need to concentrate on West Africa, African continent is too big for this project of unified currency and military

Another thing, we need to reconstruct our boarders, this colonial countries must be dismantled and we rebuild new nations, true nations built on ethnic homogeneity