₦airaland Forum

5thNOTE: i tire 4 these fools o!

it's your fathers that are fools because we Yoruba call Edo, Ado

Le Gull: Linguistically, Bini language has no roots with any other culture.

Culturally, the Bini arts crafts, traditions and religion are unique to that empire.

The Bini Empire had witnessed several long ruling dynasties far greater than any other in the whole of sub-Saharan Africa apart from ancient Egypt.

No one says Benin culture is has roots in any Yoruba city but as for the Eweka dynasty's Omo n'oba of Benin Oba Erediuwa, his ancestors were buried in Ife, as a way of honouring the land of their fathers

His bloodline is traced back to Oranmiyan, as the Ooni Ife and Alaafin of Oyo too

Le Gull: Why is this nonsense on FP?

The Bini Empire was well documented in history as being independent than the Yoruba empire.

yes Bini are independent but where did their royal family come from = Ife

Infact Before Eweka I (son of Oranmiyan), The Adimula of Ife was the one who controlled Bini as Oranmiyan was sent as a representative..... I wouldn't want to go deep in this bit cause not much people know this...it would only cause commotion

Rexxie: now this is some pretty interesting history..but something tells me something happened that made da benin obas to steer clear of ile-ife or were banned frm 'ife..what cud possibly be d reason behind that? From d gods or what?

I don't think this tradition is still held today.

Before the Ooni Ife is not supposed to leave Ife or let foreigners(non ife) see his face but it's not so anymore

musiwa112: that is wrong.. for the burial.. it is fake.. they will never bury the oba of benin this way.. it is fake..

my great grand father was the emperor of western nigeria... akanbi, the father of ooni of ile ife is the child of the third son .

lagos seaport was built under my great grand father... so is the railway line from lagos to jebba.. so the correct answer is not ile ife.. but i am not allowed to tell you online.
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Lol as insane as musiwa is he does bring some sense to issues

kevoneal: . Yea! I tot it was until I visited Abeokuta.

Lies! Abeokuta is not dirty
It's a very beautiful place

dontjealousme: Oba of Benin is the Oba of all yoruba Oba. Benins rule over yoruba land. Yorubas are slaves to Benin.

dontjealousme: "ile ibenu" wat does that mean? A proper ile ife man would know.

Only run away slaves from Benin will refer to their encampment as such on route to ile ife. Yoruba Race are run away slaves from Benin.

mad man
As if it's not the Igbo onitsha people that are said to be runaway slaves and prisoners from Bini

Arosa: So Ado Ekiti was part of the then Benin empire right?

Yes, but it has nothing to do with the names

Ado was named so from the 13th century, way before Bini began to grow it's military

But Ado Ekiti was only part of Benin for a short while as Oyo were invited to play diplomats
Oyo took over but lost it's hold as well

[quote author=Love_Decay]To mediocre look like the final resting place of the Oba Benin city and the paramount ruler of Edo land.

Ever been to the palace, in Benin city .

Na gode mallam but, this is [/quote]Rubbish! Is it how fine the place is we are talking of or we trying to discuss culture and history between brothers

Arosa: Do yorubas call Binis Ado?

Yes, like Bini call Ife "Uhe"

Redoil: Land grabbers at it again. You people will never learn that the benin kings are always burried in benin. You saw a shirine and so what..

O God...why do you people like acting stuupid

This is about history here not some greedy politics that has destroyed our traditions

It would be so disappointing if you are Bini or from any where in Edo state, that would be a shame to you and your family for making this comment with so much lack of knowledge
But if you Igbo, it's very much expected

Tobbie9: Boko haram will set a bomb and there won't be casualties(how stupid do u think they are) so every bomb that goes off in Nigeria is now boko haram, lots of educated illiterates on nairaland, useless bigots

dude this is just a test round

boko haram aren't conversant wit Yoruba system, they would of course fail the first few times but if nothing is done to strengthen security I bet Much more bombs would go down killing hundreds in that same Ile-Ife

Whether it's boko haram or not we know these are supporters of boko haram - these are muslims trying to make a statement in Osun state
We know religious crises between not only Christians and muslims but pagans too have been on for some time now in Osun

le bien connu: Dynamite? 4.00 am? when no one is likely to be injured? This is definately not the style of Boko Haram but that of 'Boko Haram'. The last time, it was bangers in a church. Now its a dynamite. Maybe its a drama too.

To all muslims trying to defend Allah (swt). No one and absolutely no one can exonorate Him from all these false accusations against Him by the so called Boko Haram and 'Boko Haram'. Only He can defend Himself. The way He defended His house against the people of elephants.

Many non muslims today now mock His name just for the fun of it. Naturally, knowing that all these claims are fallacy, one tends to be incensed but I plead with all muslims to keep calm, continue to pray to Allah to clear His name and watch as events unfold. Otherwise, if a religious crisis erupts, 'Boko Haram' will have achieved their intention.

Recently, in the same osun state, some 'Boko Haram' detonated bangers in a church only to discover they were working with thier pastor just to cast aspersion to the name of Allah (swt) when they were aprehended. imagine what would have happened if they were not caugth.

"...who is more unjust than the one who fashions a falsehood against Allah."

o pls let's hear word...Allah commissioned boko haram
All they do is as Mohamed would have done even worse

Islam is a danger religion that produces terror criminals

criuze: Should this incedent happen in the sacred cradle of the yorubas. I guess not, but uthman Danfodio conqered some its parts, is history trying to repeat? Thank God no body died.

Dan fodio conquered nowhere, Ibadan defeated his army

tonychristopher: THE CLASSICAL YORUBA MAN AND HIS ESCAPIST PHILOSOPHY

CARRY ON WITH PLAYING OSTRICH .WE ARE WATCHING

IFE IS CAPITAL OF YORUBA LAND AND THIS IS A MESSAGE TO YORUBAS

TAKE IT OR GO DANCE OWAMBE

Don't mind the fool. I don't see any sane Yoruba plotting an attack on Ife.

Whether politically driven or not, Boko haram people are behind this

InesQor: I don't think Jesus "became God" or that a "Trinity was built around the three of them".

Rather they are a yardstick against which others can be measured. There is a reason the Jews called God "The Most High".

When measuring things, there has to be a standard set before any other thing. That standard is God, and whether God has other manifestations to MAN is beyond my current religious paygrade (speaking for myself). Maybe someday I'll know for certain.

As at now I've come to believe in the "three" manifestations / roles that I described above. Again I'll use the enterprise analogy.

The Project Manager / MD / CEO, The Direct Supervisor / Team Lead / Head of Department, and The Human Resources Manager. The 3 of them are the partners that started the company and they have equal stakes / shares. That's the Trinity. They are the yardstick for the company. Everyone else is trying to buy into their shares, few shares here and there. Unless they choose to sell it all off, there's no way you can join their league.

Of course it's possible there are other departments within that organization (which means another Team Lead / HOD somewhere). And it's possible there are one or more shadow staff / secret partners / founding members. But as an employee in the company, this is what I currently have to work with until I'm convinced otherwise.

Ok! But still doesn't address how Jesus is God, how Jesus has more right to God the father than any other creation.
Unless Jesus wasn't created by God.

texanomaly: Don't all churches? If the adherents say, "I am a child of God."

No miss, I am 100% sure No church preaches "God is in everything"
To the Christchurch, God is a very separate entity residing somewhere you call heaven

Reiyvinn: maybe I'm wrong, maybe it works, maybe those practising it are not interested in 1 Million dollars promised to whoever can prove it. What a waste! I'm so daft that I haven't joined the list of Africa's richest men yet when such a thing exists....

BULLSHIT!!

I guess the gods of our land went shopping when the whites came, colonized and took our black asses for slavery.

You are really daft. You said whites don't believe in juju and that's because you are a caged in bush man who has never come in contact wit a caucasian that believes in magic
The fact that most aren't interested in practising doesn't mean they don't consider it's reality

what 1 million dollars??

And when did your ancestors tell you that the Gods would come down to feed you?

[quote author=do-not-sin]Blind atheists whom atheism has blinded.A persons belief in God requires him to do everything according to the dictates of God in His holy book.Yes God requires you to visit the doctor when you are sick,visit the mechanic when your car breaks down etc.Its in the book.

You can also stylishly ignore the countless times God instucted His human subjects to use human methods & agencies to accomplish His divine purpose when He could have easily done it by instant miracle.Examples are countless times he instucted Israelites on specific things to do to win a battle when He could have easily come down & won the battle for them

.He instucted Jeremiah through Isaiah on the herb to take & recover when he could just make the ailment disappear with a wish.

Atheists don't deserve answers cos they don't want one & I certainly won't give you more than this so go ahead & throw your stones.[/quote]You mean like how God instructed his people to utterly destroy the neighbouring nations and rape their women

Ubenedictus: Jesus did die.
He didn't kill him self.

I think you should say ur own penance.

qstar: John 10:17-18 NIV

"The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life--only to take it up again.

No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.".

texanomaly: I have believed that for as long as I can remember. You are mistaken.

Really? Well I would like to know if your church teaches that

InesQor: Yes I believe this essence is present in all creation in various trace quantities. I also believe while the rest of us can grow in God, Jesus had it 100%. The Bible says in Col 2:9 that in him dwells the FULLNESS of the Godhead bodily

Ok! First Christian I see to be intelligent enough to have realized the presence of God in all creation

But how has Jesus become God himself? As such that a trinity is built around them?

Your ideology of God in everything makes the trinity very shaky, as I too can have the God essence 100% and I join the trinity to make 4 and how do we know other people who have lived haven't achieved this God essence in 100% say Guatama Buddha or Orunmila Baba Agbonmiregun??

qstar: I have experienced faith. So, stop projecting. I don't wish to derail this thread.



Faith is simply being hopeful, sometimes, expecting wonders and illogic. ---

Actually faith and hope are 2 different things but the Christian belief is based on hope rather than faith

Ubenedictus: i think the divine essence is what makes God, God, and the human essence is what makes man man. If all things inherently posses the divine essence then all things will be God, gods and godesses.

And your Bible says in Genesis that men have become Gods

texanomaly: I have never understood the trinity and have never really believed the concept to be credible. I find your concept much more believable. The bolded is closer to my belief than any other I’ve encountered here.

Do you believe that there is a part of this “essence” or “make-up” in everyone and everything created by God?

Lol I would like to see a Christian say everything has the God essence

No Christian would admit that has it goes against the teachings of all churches

But truth is yes! Everything has the God essence
That is one way God is omnipresent, present in all things

Ubenedictus: i don't even know where you are coming from and where you are going to, you have manage to rant about nothing.

My God understands suffering not just relatively or according to his omniscience but also personally because 2000yrs ago he too human nature in the person Jesus, lived among men, grieve with them and was sad, was happy and exited, was angry...he felt the full spectrum of human emotion, he also went the spectrum of suffering, he was betrayed by his friends, denied by his disciples ridicled by his people. He went all the way, he experienced our suffering in his own person, he suffered with us.

That is what the christian message says.

Lmao so Jesus was God himself and felt pain knowing that the pain would be over in 33 short years and he would be back to his throne in the sky

What's the sacrifice and pain in setting up my own death when I can resurrect and rid myself of the pain.

If Jesus were not God - the all powerful, all knowing. He could have felt real suffering because he wouldn't have known he would be the king of the world after the event

Reiyvinn: @Rayhut, you must be wondering why I didn't respond to the nonsense you wrote.... Well lemme save you the heart break.

I've heard numerous lies like, "I saw jack lift this box through telekinesis" therefore "juju is real." here in Nairaland.

Have you ever wondered:

* What happened at ALUU? How come the whole World knew about the event?

* The Ejigbo torture that took place around February last year, how come the World got to know even after the whole event had already passed by months and was witnessed by a few people??

Every odd, entertaining, eye-catching and even, in some cases, illegal event in Naija never escape the camera of an average Nigerian. Dana air crash site was captured Live burning, ALUU lynching scene was captured Live, pictures and videos filled the internet of all these events but surprisingly, the only places we find capture of Live juju action tend to only exist in Nollywood movies.

What's the matter?

Why do Nigerians forget their smartphones at home whenever these mindblowing shows take place?! (who doesn't want blog traffic or Youtube views?)

Actually, those things never happened.

I used to be among those bunch of losers who came on religious boards proclaiming that I saw a LIVE juju take place before my very eyes when I actually didn't: I just heard from people who heard it from people and so goes the chain.

Stories of Miss Koikoi, Bunk Shaker and other bullshit we were told in Boarding school weren't different at all.

Whites don't believe in juju yet they better us in every aspect in live, why? Are the gods insane or what?

Ok, let's assume juju works. How does that prove that your god is the real god when there are approximately a hundred million gods to contend with

OOGA OH!

May the spirit of sonpana save this country from further daftness and stupidity

Be deceiving yourselves, Juju is what English call enchantment and sorcery which many believe...maybe not interested in

Apatheist: Your ancestors had that and we're still sold into slavery, their gods did nothing.
Their gods are now works of art in museums.

When did your ancestors tell you that the Gods would come down and feed you

Rayhut: Those doubting the existence of God should answer this one question,where is the source of juju,voodoo,witchcraft and supernational powers.This powers are they real or not.If they are real where is the source from

Ok, juju, voodoo, witchcraft and all supernatural powers comes from the creator of the universe

#am being serious

Rayhut: From East to West no other God,from North to South I say there is no other GOD except the HOLY Almighty God,The I am that I am,through his begotten son Jesus Christ we are saved.All wisdom belong to him,mortal man searching for answers to all mystery of life is like engraving on the rock of Gibratta.

Yes, of course but what's ur prove?

I can say Zeus the Almighty is the true God, and we can reach him directly by wishing to the sky and praying in his name

JMAN05: @op

God has the ability to foreknow the future, but He does not use it always. ie, His omniscience is inherent, not total.

No one is going to burn in an everlasting fire. That isn't true. People interprete figurative statement as if it was literal.

God did not create satan, rather a righteous angel God created turned himself into being satan.

lmao..u should be ashamed of ur failure

If God doesn't always know everything then he isn't all knowing

It's nt about whether he wants to know or not.

Btw God choosing to be ignorant doesn't say well of your deity