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KoloOyinbo: Thank you pslm23.

I will do so. Although I some of my Naija friends here in Belfast (we have a large Nigerian Community) have put me in touch with two people from her area (they all speak Etsako) and they are now helping out.

I like your style of trying to learn the culture and traditions of her people that's commendable

texanomaly: You sound like Obadiah here. lol

Maybe you need to explain the Bible to me then. I thought you didn't even believe the Bible to be true anyway. What do you believe? I thought you were an Atheist. You guys all start to blend together after a while. I can't keep it straight. Who's what?

Atheist
Deist
Satanist
Naturalist
Pantheist

ist, ist, ist...

Chai! right back at ya...
smh

I don't believe the Bible(OT) is anything other than Jewish thoughts and understanding, A history book and some moral instructions the rest is bullpoo.
I read the Bible when I do my research on ancient middle eastern spiritualities or just when am bored.

As for the New testament well that's a whole load of crap with Roman influenced agenda

I am simply Ekiti Yoruba, I pray to the Gods of my ancestors

lahchi: Question 1
Where was it said that tithing is a proof of Christians faithfulness to God?
Question 2
Where was it said that part of the old law was abolished and not the whole law?
Question 3
What is the purpose of the Old testament? (Bible reference please)

Another question
Is tithing an African obligation of is it part of the traditions of your tribe?

Africa must be Free from people like these fools

lymelyte: As for Psquare,thier voices looks very horrible on live performance.

It was because they were disappointed that Mikel didn't win

italo: Aha! The desperation, confusion and paranoia are boiling over. The only way you have left to argue your case is by petty insults. And you have suddenly jumped from the OP (who didn't address you) to Mecelliot.

More and more, you prove the irrelevance of paganism.

Says the dude who bows before idols like pagans

The issue is that many Africans are too brainwashed into these foreign ideas that they even think their ancestors were no good cave men.

I recently read an article on the Portuguese trades with West African Empires and It stated a lot of good about our people right from the 16th century, The Portuguese compared the major cities to wat they had back home, They appreciated the level at which our people were organized and controlled the cities, The architecture was also greatly admired. But wat do you hear from Africans today? Wat do we even see in movies set at those period? We see bush men living around Forest with abominable buildings.

Wat impression do we give to our traditional priests? how much do Africans know their history? How much do they even believe their history?
Many dont give up on claiming Arab or Hebrew origin.

There's a big problem in Africa and if we don't fight this problem we are Doomed
We shouldn't encourage this foreign tools of mental slavery upon our people, We should fight them strategically and restrict their movements in our land.

If only there's constitutional empowerment and encouragement for those who are free from this Disease.
If only People in Power and those in high positions could show just a little patriotism, pride and love in our identity there would be less corruption, less terrorism.

Let our history be known
Let our traditions be known
Let our language be known
Show the Good and Original side of Africa

khattab02: Allah is hubal? subhanallah! Glory be to HIM, far above what they ascribe to HIM as partners. Allah is not hubal. Can you prove that from the Qur'an?

Moon symbol of Allah? Yes! No doubt it is one of many creations of Almighty God. Allah says in Qur'an 41:37 '' and among His signs are the night and the day, the sun and the Moon...''

Allah a head God? subhanallah '' Glory be to HIM, far above what they ascribe to HIM as partners.'' Allah is not an idol and not among the Idols. Bring your prove from the Qur'an.

alat is the daughter of Allah? Subhanallah '' lam yalid wa lam yulad'' He begets not, nor was He begotten. I think you are trying to refer to a verse is surah Najm? That is not what Allah said or mean.

''importance/significant of the moon'' not to arabs but Islam in general. There is a verse for the importance/significant of the moon, Allah says in Qur'an 2:189 '' they ask you about the new moons. Say: these are signs to mark fixed periods of time for Mankind and for the pilgrimage.'' similar message is repeated in Surah Yunus. No muslim worship or bow to the Moon.

Such a pity that you do not know anything about pre-Islam Arabia.
Allah has always been the head of the pantheon which Mohammed's family was devoted to, even his father's name was "Abdullah" and everyone knows that Allat means 'the goddess' she is personified as daughter of Allah.

You keep asking for Quran verse as if Allah worship started with Quran lmao you better open your eyes to the deception of the Quran. Even all the claims that it made about Hebrews being Allah devotes is flawed, there's nothing to denote that Yahweh and Allah are the same.

So tell me who hubal is if isn't Allah and why the Arabs called him Allah?

No one is trying to diminish the superiority of Allah but don't deny Allah's original identity. Yahweh as also gone through tremendous evolution since the 900BC

The moon is an Arab thing, it's not about worship but as an important source of living.
The moon was an important symbol of the Arabian traditions and they associated it with their Gods but notably the chief of the Gods- Allah
Similar to the Kemet traditions and love for the Sun as The associated their Gods with it but mostly AmunRa the supreme

MetaPhysical: In a metaphysical sense, the cosmic world is a flooded dimension. We are carried in a vessel safely through the unseen but perceived deluge. Those that fail to board the vessel are drowned. The vessel is what OPON IFA is. In it you have TWO of every animal (possible permutations of events or ODU).

All the numbers and dimensions given to Noah are all cryptic messages for the ORACLE.

Divination started with Noah, Abraham spread it across the land. Moses canonized it.

True explicit study and you would realize Most Bible characters used Oracle but there's still no basis to conclude that Ifa is one and the same oracle of Ancient Semites.

Those any Ifa corpus state any character similar to Noah's personality?

According to Wat I heard from elders Orunmila developed Ifa in Ilesun(now Ado-Ekiti)
So are you saying Ekiti oral history is wrong or wat?

Ephod is just a bag or a sack or container in which must be kept the tools of divination. The tools as well as the bag are sacred and at all times must be maintained in a purified state.

Actually Yoruba priests carry two bags, the other one is called LABA - the bag of secrets!

Ephod is not just a bag, it's an actual clog worn and placed across the shoulders by priest and others during rituals and ceremony.

I haven't seen an actual ephod but I've seen pictures of it worn by ancient Hebrews

Do you have pictures of Laba since am not actually sure how it looks?

Though people have been living in that area for centuries, Ondo as a city state was established only 500yrs ago. And The habitation around that area wasn't known as ondo until Olori Olu Pupuru named it so.

gasdemup: http://egbesu..com/2013/04/fabian-ohore-baruch-college-april-17.html

is this true

Nice article.

I would say, the isoko imagined Ooni ife as a god

texanomaly: They didn't even know they were naked. They didn't know what sex was. They were innocent. How could we be here if they never had sex. If they remained in this zombie-like state, how could any of us ever be?

And who told you sex is done with intelligence? So the animals didn't have until dey learnt from Adam?
Chai! See as una dey fall hand believing that story is literal.

ladionline: You make good point. But you should remember the people involve are two adults, male and female. Their relationship is private to them as long as its not the first of its kind or illegal. I remember Hafsat Abiola, Akuiyili's and so on. At the bolded, I learnt from pagan9ja that he believe we evolve few days ago. The notion came from Charles Darwin and Herbart Spencer not last year, this guys are whites. When you share the same faith with someone, do you have to pick on just anything cultural from them with eternal suspicion again? Unhealthy suspicion is hate.

Yh But seriously.
An Edo lady in her 20s- Irish man in his 50s what love is that? someone is deceiving someone.

The rest of your post has nothing to do with this topic. WTH does evolution even have to do with

The Japanese are a Glorious set of people who love their culture and traditions.
The New year period is being marked with prayers and rituals for a good business year as a Ceremony at Various Shrines in Tokyo.

www.japantoday.com/smartphone/view/picture-of-the-day/praying-for-profits
http://the-japan-news.com/news/article/0000919679

Adeebiwa09: Oh my God macof!! U?! Nt again. 1st it mention u are also going 2 hel because u r also usin sme devil's invention. 2nd it means u r an hypocrite because the phne/wateva u r usin was 'inventd' by the devil. 3rd if God created d heaven and earth with wisdom, gav it 2 a guy 2 build the tabernacle, Jesus is the wisdom of God, al the level of organisatn dat solomon did by the wisdom God gv 2 him are of the devil them. Common, dnt gv me bobo i prefer hollandia, am nt a baby dnt gv me rubish. So any invention is of the devil so Gbam, go n use animal skin as cloth, use leaves as ur cushion, use ur leg 2 walk, dnt work wt computer, whateva work u r doing go n resign e.t.c. Abah imagine the extent of ds rubish u r teaching. Infact indeed now i knw the spirit of d anti-christ is realy workin, soon u wl tel us nt 2 marry, dnt do ds nor that wen d law hs bin abolish, mehn so many people thnk dy r serving God dnt knw he doesn't even knw him. 3 scriptures 4 u: matt. 15:1-9, 13:11-15, 7:22-23, pls study them and bros infact nt bros, guy go n grow, study ur bible and pray wel b4 u talk trash.

Bro the holy spirt as motivated me to inform the believers
Am sure you are not a believer or you have let satan entice you wit worldly things.
You can live without all these things from the devil and his minions

Jesus is here to reveal all things to the believers of his word.
Don't do wat ever isn't biblical, the Bible is the only book worth reading

Rilwayne001: You are not the type of person that one should waste his time talking cuz those orisha are busy eatin "ebo" for your head

The Orisha taken someone's ebo is a blessing so if that's suppose to be an insult u fail.
More display of lack of knowledge

I man blessed like me, A man blessed by his ancestors, A man blessed by Olodumare, A man blessed by Orunmila is nothing compared to an Arab shiit licker like you

Macelliot: To GOD be thy Glory.
whether you like it or not, Jesus Christ is the Kings of kings and the Lord of lords.

Whether you like it or not Jesus is dead, left him rest in peace mehn!

italo: Let's see the OP:



^^^Clearly, he wasnt even addressing you. He was addressing "devoted Catholics" but you are just so restless and paranoid because you are craving the relevance that you do not have.

It's so bad that you don't even know what the thread is about or who it is addressed to.

You must be a fool then
Because Mecelliot was the one who invited me here by making a comment about pagans.

Paganism is still the father of your religion

ladionline: Pagan9ja, shilth sword. Can you change the world? And the wrong that was and that is to come? Is paganism a 'hand in glove' with racism? I am not supporting kolo, but what is the future of religion that is easy to offend and is discriminative? You once told me we evolve, that's the tenet of your paganism. Your tenet is not original to you or to Africa, it is Oyinbo belief. Why hate people you are indebted to?

Pagan 9ja has his ideology and reasons for his comments in this thread.
Paganism isn't all to do with this topic, The Irish man could be a pagan devoted to Esus or any Deity it doesn't Change the fact that 50+ Irish man marrying a Young Edo in her 20s is totally rubbish. I find it hard to believe it's love but abeg even love knows wat is right and wat is wrong

To the bold- Wat does that mean? Who is he indebted to?

ICHIEMAN: I think that mail is invalid dear

So you sef need a taste, you go try the mail shap shap

Mr President: Typical Israelite behaviour. Perpetually asking for signs and evidences and proof even if it is starring them in the face and racking them in the brain. In your own case, Macof, despite the gamut of historical, cultural evidences and faultless precepts from the Holy Bible, you continue to scoff.

Dude proof you are Israeli or shut up
I can proof I am fully Ekiti. I have an identity, I have a people who know I am for them

Where are your people? What is your identify, can your trace your family history up to 200yrs ago? You don't know your bloodline how can you know where your family originated from.

Elementary Yoruba history tells us that when Oduduwa arrived Ile-ife from the Middle-east, he met people already living there. These people made him king or rather, he conquered them. Take care to note that the Bible usually recognises a whole multitude of people as single individuals, Why isn't it logical, then, that Oduduwa rather than being a single individual, is a conquering army receding from Roman forces?

Elementary Yoruba that you learned from Slaves like you.

Ask true sons of the land, even the Ooni of Ife- who sits on the throne of Oduduwa, would tell you Oduduwa was an Heavenly being sent by Olodumare to fulfill Ifa prophecy.

And it is well documented among the Yoruba that it is war that drove Oduduwa from the Middle-east!

Who are these Yoruba? Slaves like you who claim Yoruba? Pls any Yoruba history you get from delusional Jewish or Arab shitt lickers is fake

Ooni of ife as spoken

It just may be that you are a hamite, that the spirit inside you is a hamitic spirit, through the process of reincarnation you have forgotten your hamitic roots. You yourself confess that you ancestors are hamites.

Yorubas are not hamitic but Negroid.
Hamites are Northern and Eastern Africans- Get that into your dumb skull

Why shouldnt I believe this is your spirit speaking out though you are quite unconscious of it, Ever heard of Freudian slips ?

Just if you are hamitic, it may be riling to know you are less than Israel

most Hamites are Arab slaves, they technically have no affiliation wit Israel.

I am as free and proud of my identity as any regular Israeli, truth is Israelis are very proud, infact their pride as turned to racism and discrimination.
My people are not racist, we don't discriminate And we are very proud of who we are and proud of our ancestors

but Yashua came for you too; those that are not originally part of the commonwealth of Israel. Come chop better life. Come roll with the winning team

Your Yahshua is dead and gone, He couldn't save Israel talkless of the whole world.

Isaiah 49:6
And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.

An olive branch for you, reject it, and just if you are not Israelite, be damned forever!

Good for your likes.
We in Ile-Oodua have always had light, Olodumare has blessed every people of the world and we Ekiti are greatly blessed. We could share you some if you wish to be our slave

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]By the Gods, one day we will form an International Pagan Tribal Confederacy.

The world has become too corrupted. .[/quote]That would be wonderful. An international movement to raise the awareness of Paganism and Tribal pride

harbiola1: Ki pon ni


This is a SuperStory!


I know what is good/bad about Yorubas. I chose what'll benefit me, and rejected what'll implicate me.

If you like, act wisely and if u also like, act foolishly.


Thanks!

There is nothing bad about being yourself
There is nothing bad about being a man of your tribe
There is nothing bad about practicing the spirituality, traditions, and culture of your people

If being Yoruba is being foolish then the whole world is foolish
But of course not, there's nothing that gives a man more pride than having an identity.
You however have No identity, You slave yourself and kill your consciousness. You are wat my people call omo-ale, eru and oloriburuku

Kolo oyinbo
I have no problem with your idea of love but she's too young. You have almost 20yrs on her and Her parents must be stuupid to let a white old Irish man come and marry her when there are Edo men in their 30s

^^ Just my opinion because I would never allow it

italo: If they were, you wouldn't be so restless and paranoid.

Tell that to Christian evangelist and the Op of this thread

voltron: I have to agree with Divepen on this one.. The Source is ever-present and we should not need any 3rd Party tool to connect to it.. but wait.. *is Jesus Christ not an External Drive ???

Do you mind divepen the guy just wants to show himself

I wonder why you can't receive from the father without first worshipping the son. Is the father that stingy that the son must beg first, or the son gives from his wallet instead

Adeebiwa09: Bwahahahaha lol, i done live! Mehn people hv startd using dr behind 2 do wat dr head and brain shld b doin. (nt an insult anyway) but na wa o. "God hates t.v and CONDEMN those that watch" kai rotfl, lwtmb omo men i dnt even knw what u say. I'v cme to this conclusion that my guy s a psycopath and is confused. Pls MFM shld near ur house, u nid ...

Brother. Don't harden your heart to the instruction of God
is watching of TV biblical? Do you think God is happy with rhos who love the inventions of the satanist?
TV is the Great invention of the devil and is used to increase his kingdom

Darkness and light can never be together, Satanist have the TV let God's children separate from them

MEILYN: I am an Israelite, not Israeli.

Am a Jew, not a Jewish.

Is there any difference between an Okiti and an Ekiti?

you have problems, you need a psychiatrist and some time in rehab

Macelliot: Jesus is an Heavenly Spirit who manifested among us in form of man. He was incarnate of the Holy Spirit, and born by Virgin Mary, He suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died and buried.
He descended into the underworld.
On the third day,
He defeated Death, rose to life and ascended into Heaven.
He sits at the Right hand of ALMIGHTY GOD, THE FATHER.
From there,
He will come again in Glory, to judge the Living & the Dead and His kingdom will have No End.

Keep living in Roman delusional inventions

Wait till you die.for Jesus

italo: Pagans craving relevance! Lol

Lol so ignorant
Pagan practices are the most relevant in the world, it as always been and would always be

Rilwayne001: Maybe you are the fool here,
Btw...How many people dey follow you worship your dumb orisha

Wake up bro...stop swimmin in foolishness

You are the fool because you are the one saying wat you have No knowledge about.
Your useless slave partner said Allah of the quran is Olodumare jst to justify his muslimness and I was correcting him then you come and call me a fool over nothing. Was your action not Stupidly Foolish?

Orisha worship is the 7th Widest and largest Worship system in the world with over 200million adherents world wide. It is the second most practiced pagan system in the world

And whether Yoruba paganism is the least recognized religion with only 10people, I would stay put because I have pride in my Yoruba identity and am not a bastrd child and Arab slave like you