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Christianity Etc › Re: Basic Things You Must Not Idolized As A Christian by macof(m): 7:18pm On Nov 08, 2013
akubudejud: ..Been a Christian entails a lot of things like self denial,humility,self control, perseverance and many more but there are some important things in life which if not properly handled or sort for could bring down any Christian.they include:

1. MONEY...The extreme love for it.

2. FASHION...demonic flashy trends and uneccessary accumulation of preperties.

3. SEX BEFORE AND OUT SIDE MARRIAGE....self control.

4. PEOPLE IRRESPECTIVE OF THEIR FAME OR STATUS.

ANYTHING YOU IDOLIZED ABOVE GOD WILL DESTROY YOUR CHRISTIAN LIFE ....Beware..!

Mark 8:36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
Which God exactly? The Christian God?
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Kissing A Sin? by macof(m): 7:13pm On Nov 08, 2013
Rossikk: Some of you christians are really jobless.

So, as you are now, a whole grown man like you... You actually entertain the idea that the creator of the universe will decide on if to send you to an eternal burning furnace based on whether or not you KISSED somebody in your human life.

I mean.. this is embarrassing even to read.
My good sir, u need not be surprised by the level of insanity christianity gives the human mind.

trust me, I was there once
Christianity Etc › Re: Even Atheist Fear God by macof(m): 7:03pm On Nov 08, 2013
fadosky607: Wow.. That's kinda awkward... Never heard anyone calling himself 'pagan' b4.

But do u bliv there's an almighty God or u think the one u worship is the almighty or perhaps is the creator of the universe?
I believe in the Almighty God, father of all creation, owner of heaven, the creator, the owner of the law of the universe, the ultimate force of life, farther of the gods. And his name in Yoruba spirituality is Olodumare.

Who is ur God?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do You Embrace Abrahamic Faith Over African Spirituality? by macof(m):
Mr President: What I have given you is wholistic Yoruba history pre and post Oduduwa. Monotheistic before oduduwan history recall, polytheistic after Oduduwan history recall, linking Oduduwa to the cradle of man the East (or middle east), and How God's authentic children became worshippers of stone and wood(Jeremiah 17:4). Maybe you, Macof, are a sincere seeker but just confused, then, all I ask of you is to continue seeking with a pure heart, but by all means AVOID idolatry. Do good to all men and treat them as you would want to be treated. The light will shine through to you eventually.

keep in mind that Oduduwa may not actually even be the name of a person but a code word for a group of people who came to a place and conquered the original inhabitants. I am certain, with a measure of conviction, that folake was one of the people conquered by Oduduwa, this is the reason it is difficult for him to accept sound reasoning and facts of history. It hurts!

For the true Yoruba, it is a call to royalty, a call to walk in your original inheritance....as the true authentic bonafide children of God.
The Bible was written by your forefathers who fell into idolatry, were punished by exile into the wildernesss of Africa and the furthest parts of the earth.

But then, there is hope and the time is nigh...

Zephaniah 3:10
From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia my suppliants, even the daughter of my dispersed, shall bring mine offering.


folake is lost. He is destined for destruction. His motives are not pure.
I honestly don't knw where to start with u, so I better not.

May Orunmila help u advance in knowledge and may Eshu release u from this confusion.
Christianity Etc › Re: Even Atheist Fear God by macof(m): 4:13pm On Nov 08, 2013
fadosky607: So u not an atheist afterall, thank GOD!!! *a deep sigh of relief* So what's actually ur understanding of God that's different from the Abrahaimc?
I never said I am Atheist.

I am a Yoruba Pagan
Education › Re: What Are The Best Countries To Study Law? by macof(op): 4:10pm On Nov 08, 2013
talk2tosep: Russia
kk thanks. we'll check it up
Education › What Are The Best Countries To Study Law? by macof(op): 3:53pm On Nov 08, 2013
I have a brother who wants to study Law and with this current ASUU thing wink the guy wants to study Abroad. pls wat countries are recommended? baring in mind their tuition fee range
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do You Embrace Abrahamic Faith Over African Spirituality? by macof(m): 3:48pm On Nov 08, 2013
Mr President: You are rambling folake. Why dont you google up the information. I have done justice to this thread by proving to you, through the custodians of Yoruba traditional history and culture-The Ogboni, that the Yoruba were originally monotheistic and believed in The Supreme Creator.

Idolatry was the reason they (and all other negroes) were cursed into Africa and also dispersed to all corners of the earth.

I leave you to your ramblings, you have just solidified my convictions about you. You are not truly Yoruba.

This thread is for the seeker who will find it later.
Yoruba were never monothesit. but we have also always believed in the supreme creator
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do You Embrace Abrahamic Faith Over African Spirituality? by macof(m): 3:45pm On Nov 08, 2013
Mr President: Oduduwa did not come alone. He led his people to Ile-ife where they met people like Setilu (Agboniregun) who taught him Ifa.

There are various accounts but the general consensus is that the ancient Israelites were dark-skinned and this is provable by asking yourself one or two questions;

1 How did Moses survive in the court of Pharaoh as a (white skinned?) baby, we know that the ancient Egyptians are dark skinned.
2 Why was Paul the apostle called an Ethiopian in Acts 21:38 Art not thou that Egyptian, which before these days madest an uproar, and leddest out into the wilderness four thousand men that were murderers?

I am begining to suspect that folake is not an Israelite. As a believer in reincarnation, I strongly suspect that he is one of indigenous people Oduduwa met at Ile-ife. This explains his strong opposition to reason.
yes I know there is prove to claim ancient israel was black but wat has dat got to do wit Odududwa?
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Things That Aren't Really Known by macof(op): 3:41pm On Nov 08, 2013
psalms 89:6 "for who in heaven can be compared to the Lord? who among the sons of God Almighty can be likened to the Lord?" this verse proves that "Lord" here is one of the Sons of El(the Almighty God). and we all know that the "Lord" is Yahweh

judges 9:46 mentions "El Berith aka Baalberith" who is another god in the ancient semitic religions. he was worshipped by Israel after they denied Yahweh/El shaddai judges 8:33-34 judges 9:4



The idol Baalberith, which the Jews worshipped after the death of Gideon, was identical, according to the Rabbis(Jews), with Baal-zebub, "the ba'al(lord) of flies," the god of Ekron (II Kings i. 2). He was worshipped in the shape of a fly; and Jewish tradition states that so addicted were the Jews to his cult that they would carry an image of him in their pockets, producing it, and kissing it from time to time. Baal-zebub is called Baal-berith because such Jews might be said to make a covenant (Hebrew: "Berit" of devotion with the idol, being unwilling to part with it for a single moment (Shab. 83b; comp. also Sanh. 63b). According to another conception, Baal-berith was an obscene article of idolatrous worship, possibly a simulacrum priapi (Yer. Shab. ix. 11d; 'Ab. Zarah iii. 43a). This is evidently based on the later significance of the word "berit," meaning circumcision

If we are to go by the above christianJudaic circumcision is an act in honor of Baalberith.

psalms 82:1 "God stood in the congregation of the Almighty, he judgeth among the Gods"
psalms 82:6 "I have said that you all are gods, and are children of the Most High"



God there is definately the God of Israel(Yahweh) who judges among other Gods
The Almighty/most high is "EL"
Christianity Etc › Re: Only A Fool Says There Is No Other God by macof(op): 2:30pm On Nov 08, 2013
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Adonai (אֲדֹנָי) is Hebrew for "my lords", from adon "lord, owner".[13] The singular form is Adoni, "my lord". This was used by the Phoenicians for the god Tammuz and is the origin of the Greek name Adonis. Jews only use the singular to refer to a distinguished person.

The plural form is usually explained as pluralis excellentiae. The pronunciation of the tetragrammaton came to be avoided in the Hellenistic period, therefore Jews use "Adonai" instead in prayers, and colloquially would use Hashem ("the Name"wink.[/quote]Adonai which many Christians use in praise, actually means "masters/owners"=Many gods
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do You Embrace Abrahamic Faith Over African Spirituality? by macof(m): 2:24pm On Nov 08, 2013
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do You Embrace Abrahamic Faith Over African Spirituality? by macof(m): 2:06pm On Nov 08, 2013
Personally I dont sunscribe to the Oba of Benin story that Odududwa was from Uselu(former name of benin), when Oduduwa came he didnt come with any army. He came alone(wearing a royal attire) The Ife people believed he was the man of prophecy, a prince of heaven and accepted him as the first king of Ife.

before the expansion of the Yoruba nation from Ife to the current landmass, Ife people lived around in places like Iwo, Idanre etc which are in the east of Ife. Oduduwa come have been born in any of these places.

The birthplace of Oududuwa is still a mystery
Christianity Etc › Only A Fool Says There Is No Other God by macof(op):
psalms 89:6 "for who in heaven can be compared to the Lord? who among the sons of God Almighty can be likened to the Lord?" this verse proves that "Lord" here is one of the Sons of El(the Almighty God). and we all know that the "Lord" is Yahweh

judges 9:46 mentions "El Berith aka Baalberith" who is another god in the ancient semitic religions. he was worshipped by Israel after they denied Yahweh/El shaddai judges 8:33-34 judges 9:4

psalms 82:1 "God stood in the congregation of the Almighty, he judgeth among the Gods"
psalms 82:6 "I have said that you all are gods, and are children of the Most High"
God there is definately the God of Israel(Yahweh) who judges among other Gods
The Almighty/most high is "EL"

so yahweh isnt even the Most high God. this thread proves he is The God of mountains and frutfulness https://www.nairaland.com/1508769/christians-god-idol-hills

exodus 15:11 the famous song of moses
Christianity Etc › Re: "Why Is Christianity Better Than Other Religions?" by macof(m): 1:55pm On Nov 08, 2013
OLAADEGBU: Both buddhism and humanism are belief systems.
beliefs but not belief in spiritual forces
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Believe In Jesus? by macof(op): 1:51pm On Nov 08, 2013
anthoniosp: after 3 hrs of thinking?? u had to come out with this?? how lame!! go nd meet amanfrommars to teach you..
huh
Christianity Etc › Re: Is A New Born Baby Already A Sinner? by macof(m): 1:49pm On Nov 08, 2013
MEILYN: i cant be Hebrew? How are u sure? grin grin
very sure. u might have Hebrew Origin(if u are Igbo) but u cant still call urself Hebrew. I mean it wud be mental slavery and insanity
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do You Embrace Abrahamic Faith Over African Spirituality? by macof(m): 1:47pm On Nov 08, 2013
MEILYN: i told you, u are addicted to this word. grin grin
maybe I am

hey check out these threads https://www.nairaland.com/1508769/christians-god-idol-hills
https://www.nairaland.com/1503699/christianity-things-arent-really-known
Christianity Etc › Re: Christians..... .your God Is An Idol Of The Hills by macof(m): 1:39pm On Nov 08, 2013
psalms 89:6 "for who in heaven can be compared to the Lord? who among the sons of God Almighty can be likened to the Lord?" this verse proves that "Lord" here is one of the Sons of El(the Almighty God). and we all know that the "Lord" is Yahweh

judges 9:46 mentions "El Berith aka Baalberith" who is another god in the ancient semitic religions. he was worshipped by Israel after they denied Yahweh/El shaddai judges 8:33-34 judges 9:4


The idol Baalberith, which the Jews worshipped after the death of Gideon, was identical, according to the Rabbis(Jews), with Baal-zebub, "the ba'al(lord) of flies," the god of Ekron (II Kings i. 2). He was worshipped in the shape of a fly; and Jewish tradition states that so addicted were the Jews to his cult that they would carry an image of him in their pockets, producing it, and kissing it from time to time. Baal-zebub is called Baal-berith because such Jews might be said to make a covenant (Hebrew: "Berit"wink of devotion with the idol, being unwilling to part with it for a single moment (Shab. 83b; comp. also Sanh. 63b). According to another conception, Baal-berith was an obscene article of idolatrous worship, possibly a simulacrum priapi (Yer. Shab. ix. 11d; 'Ab. Zarah iii. 43a). This is evidently based on the later significance of the word "berit," meaning circumcision
If we are to go by the above christianJudaic circumcision is an act in honor of Baalberith.

psalms 82:1 "God stood in the congregation of the Almighty, he judgeth among the Gods"
psalms 82:6 "I have said that you all are gods, and are children of the Most High"




God there is definately the God of Israel(Yahweh) who judges among other Gods
The Almighty/most high is "EL"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_(deity)
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Believe In Jesus? by macof(op): 12:31pm On Nov 08, 2013
sista/broda go open church
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Believe In Jesus? by macof(op): 12:30pm On Nov 08, 2013
anthoniosp: he told me .."i will be with you"... not "i was with you"...always till d end of time..
my grand father said the same words, yet am nt as delusional as u are to think he is still alive
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do You Embrace Abrahamic Faith Over African Spirituality? by macof(m): 12:24pm On Nov 08, 2013
FOLYKAZE: For sure. He got it right but not all. Folykaze is a trickster. I am Eshu lol

There was a point he asked me to keep it between my right and left hand. I did and he got it right. I added my own trick in next phase and kept the cowrie in my front pocket instead of my hands. The baba couldn't get this right though.

This got him ashamed but when he reported the incident to Oluwo, the old oluwo said the baba was asking for the sides and Ifa gave him direct answer. It what you ask you got it answer. Garbage in and garbage out. The Oluwo told him Ifa was informing him that the cowrie was in my left side as the pocket was positioned on the left side of my shirt but the baba interpreted it as left hand. So the error was from the baba and not Ifa. The baba even had chance to learn somethings which I witnessed but dont understand. They were just talking and chanting.

I have been trying to relate with Oluwo here but the old man is doing somehow. Kinda keeping things out of my understanding. He often take me as joke but I am thinking only my initiation can appeal him.

Bro there are more to Ifa than what we think. Oluwo told me interpretation of Odu can take period of 8yrs before knowing it fully. Awo ju awo, eye n gbe eye mi. Lol.
this is interesting, u sure are one intelligent trickster grin

Ifa is wonderful, I also noticed most Awo(not just for Ifa) withhold some information except u are initiated, I wish I was initiated already.

the first time I went to Osun shrine I was still a Christian and I saw people praying to Osun for pregnancy and I was confused. the Awo there told me to take water from odo Osun and use it for anything I ask for. I remember some days later(still in Osun state) I had a terrible headache and poured the water over my head, and drank the rest, it didnt take up to 30secs the headache disappeared. I went back to the Awo to explain how the water could do that, he just laughed and told me "A christian like u cant understand"
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Believe In Jesus? by macof(op): 11:26am On Nov 08, 2013
anthoniosp: i no wan knw!! i tlk say hin dey alive..com kill me
then asnwer how he is still alive after 2000 years
Christianity Etc › Re: Only A Fool Says There Is No God. by macof(m): 11:25am On Nov 08, 2013
only a fool says there is no other god

am thinking of opening a thread with the above topic
Christianity Etc › Re: "Why Is Christianity Better Than Other Religions?" by macof(m): 11:23am On Nov 08, 2013
OLAADEGBU: Humanism is another one of your religions.
how is humanism a religionhuh
Christianity Etc › Re: Is A New Born Baby Already A Sinner? by macof(m): 11:19am On Nov 08, 2013
Mr President: All you stated above are in the Scriptures, you are ignorant is why you continue to talk rubbish.
Like it or not and however you deny it, Judah resides in West Africa.
If you do not repent of wickedness, your judgement is around the corner.

Macof, pretence to intelligence angry
as lost herbrews aka Igbos right?
Christianity Etc › Re: Is A New Born Baby Already A Sinner? by macof(m): 11:15am On Nov 08, 2013
MEILYN: nope am not... Am from Yehudah grin grin
pls be serious, I knw u cant be Hebrew or are u Igbo?
Christianity Etc › Re: "Why Is Christianity Better Than Other Religions?" by macof(m): 11:11am On Nov 08, 2013
OLAADEGBU: Is Buddhism not the religion of most atheists? undecided
atheists dont have a religion undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Only A Fool Says There Is No God. by macof(m): 11:07am On Nov 08, 2013
[quote author=i-smoke-weed]If only you could approach your father & mother and say the nonsense you keep posting on this forum

I'm sure they would personally kill and bury you themselves

Ungrateful fellow[/quote]lol my mother knows am nt christian
my father is pagan

I am nt ungrateful. I am very grateful to my ancestors, the God of my family and the God the universe

however u are simply mad for being disrespectful to ur ancestors and slaving urself to people who dont even care about u
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Believe In Jesus? by macof(op): 11:06am On Nov 08, 2013
anthoniosp: oya ...i no gree bliv..jesus dey alive..come.kill me!!
cheesy delusion and insanity
is Jesus immotal?
Christianity Etc › Re: Amazing Facts About The Pope, Roman Catholic Church And The Vatican by macof(m): 11:05am On Nov 08, 2013
farem: [color=#990000]
THE LORD [JESUS CHRIST OF NAZARETH, not apostles,disciples, lutheran, catholic, celestial, redeemed, c&s, pastors popes, or G.o's] ADDED TO CHURCH DAILY. Acts 2:47
"...feed the Church which He [JESUS CHRIST, not the one emanated from your Catholic ] has purchased with His own blood" Acts 20:28
"THEREFORE IF ANY MAN [regardless of status, or race] BE IN CHRIST [not in catholic or protestant church], HE IS A NEW CREATURE" 2Cor 5:17
"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus" 1 Timothy 2:5
"And.... God was manifested in the flesh, and the Word was God, the Word became flesh" 1 Tim 3:16, John 1:1, 14
"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth and the life: no man cometh to the Father (inherit the kingdom of God, will be raptured-ready/qualified ), but by me [taking the other means-arranged by the deceitfulness of satan- is heading for hell-fire]" John 14:6
I HAVE GIVEN JUST VERY FEW OF WHAT CHRISTIANITY IS ALL ABOUT.ANY ATTEMPT TO SHIFT THE DIVINE POST-TRADITION OF MEN,:IT HAS BEEN THERE FOR CENTURY, THIS ONE LOOKS DIVINE, WORSHIPPING 'SAINTS' AND OTHER IMAGES, APPOINTING POPE SUCCESSORS WHOSE MINISTRY WAS NOT REALLY ROME-BASED, ASKING POPE TO BE CELEBATES WHEN THE SUPPOSED 1ST POPE (PETER)'S MOTHER-IN-LAW WAS HEALED BY JESUS -,SHOWS THAT ROMAN CATHOLICISM IS NOT THE SAME AS CHRISTIANITY.
It's purely another religion!
shut up

you are simply in denial
Catholism is the mother of christianity
PAUL and PETER are the ones that brought christianity to Rome.
Vatican city is the headquarters of Christianity in the world
Christianity Etc › Re: Christians..... .your God Is An Idol Of The Hills by macof(m): 11:00am On Nov 08, 2013
genesis 22:2 god instructs Abraham to sacrifce isaac on a mountain. means that all sacrifice to him where usually done on mountains
Exodus 3:1 Moses went up to the mountain of god. when u read futher it was on the same mountain that god first appeared to him.

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