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Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Chris : How To.know Who To Marry by Maestro21: 3:48pm On Oct 14, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Hosea's wife WAS A PROSTITUTE who was sleeping around with other men and God asked Hosea to keep going back to plead with her to return home each time she goes out to commit adultery.
But in this case your Pastor Chris is the Prostitute here and when the woman couldn't bear his adulterous lifestyle any more she filed for a divorce.
So Chris IS NOT QUALIFIED TO COUNSEL OTHERS ABOUT MARRIAGE BECAUSE HE HIMSELF FAILED WOEFULLY IN THIS REGARD! smiley
Leave Pastor Chris alone. You don't know him and cannot prove anything you are saying.

Why not call the founder and leader of the most shameless cult in the world what he is as well for hypocritically sending his wife away and maltreating her. The court document and transcript testifies to this.

Denounce him. That is what you have been angling for.

Any other thing is just a shameless attempt at trying to deflect.
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Chris : How To.know Who To Marry by Maestro21: 3:45pm On Oct 14, 2021
Emusan:
They are hypocritical and cunning people.

They can sugarcoat anything just to promote their demonic doctrines forgotten that all what they accused other for, are also found within their organization.

You can see how their trying to defend their founder and Rutherford. When it's obvious that the way their founder treated his wife is show shameful that even unbelievers can't treat a woman such way.

Firstly, the they lied that Russell never pushed for separation whereas it's Russell himself who first brought up the issue of separation.

Secondly, their publications lied & provide half info many times just to cover up their founder's evil towards his wife the same way they're doing on this thread.

Lastly, the wife fell seriously sick during that period, imagine what their founder says "It's a judgement from his God" I wonder what their hypocritical mouth will say if it's another person that says something like this to a bedridden wife.

Here is just few statement at the trial of the marriage in court by the wife.




Q. Mrs. Russell, after you separated from your husband in November, 1897, where did you go live?

A. I went to my sister's. [80/1006 Cedar Avenue]

Q. And how long did you live with your sister?

A. A year and a half.

Q. Did you receive any support from your husband during that year and a half?

A. None whatever.

Q. At the expiration of the year and a half, which would be about April, 1899, where did you go live?

A. The house next door to my sister [79/1004 Cedar Avenue], which was owned by my husband, which was left vacant, the tenant moved out and I went in and took possession of it and notified Mr. Russell I was there.

Q. How long did you live in that house?

A. I remained there for four years.

Q. During those four years, did Mr. Russell contribute anything to your support, outside of permitting you to live in this house?

A. Nothing.

Q. And during those four years, how did you make a livelihood?

A. I rented furnished rooms.

Q. I believe during this time Mr. Russell gave you some furniture?

A. Yes, Sir.

Q. And that would bring us down now to April, 1903?

A. Yes, Sir.

Q. And did you leave that house on Cedar?

A. On April 16, 1903, Mr. Russell and these men who are with him today came over to my house, and with some others from the office, they were persons connected with the Watch Tower Society and also the [United States] Investment Company and they came over and took possession of the house, and turned me out of the house; he kept the furniture and even retained my pocket book which carried the money that I had received from the rent of rooms.

EDITORS NOTE: Maria Russell either misspoke when she said, "April 16, 1903", or the court reporter got it wrong. The correct date was Monday, March 16, 1903. See Section below to see what all occurred during the week of March 16, 1903 between Maria and Taze Russell.

OBJECTION

Q. And then I believe shortly after that eviction from this house you instituted these proceedings for divorce? And also proceedings in the [C]ourt of Quarter Sessions for non-support. (See following section.)

A. Yes. Sir.

Q. In which the court sentenced him to pay $40 a month?

A. Yes, Sir.

Q. Which has been done from that time down until the present?

A. Yes, Sir.

Q. Have you had any financial aid from your husband except this $40 a month which you have received since about April 1, 1903, down to the present time?

A. None whatever.

Q. Mrs. Russell, have you any means of your own?

A. I have no means of my own, excepting a very small legacy from my mother, just a few hundred dollars, and that has helped to eke out life with that $40 a month which I have been living on since that time. Mother just died just before I was evicted from that house.

Q. Mrs. Russell, prior to the time you left your husband, did he ever propose a separation?

A. Yes, Sir.

Q. When was that?

A. That was just before we moved down to the Bible House. It was in 1895.

Q. And at that time you were living on Clifton Avenue, Allegheny?

A. Yes, Sir.

Q. Did or did not Mr. Russell at that time make any threat as to what he would do with his property unless you acceded to his demands?

A. Yes, Sir.

Q. What were they?

A. He proposed that on the ground of incompatibility that we agree to separate, and if I would do so he would give me that house in which we were living, and when I broke down at the suggestion, he said if I did not agree to it, that I would not get anything.

Q. After this proposed separation and threat, Mrs. Russell, where did you go to live, you and your husband?

A. We moved down to the Bible House.

Q. At whose suggestion?

A. Mr. Russell's.

Q. And I believe you continued to live there until the final separation in November, 1897?

A. Yes, Sir.

Q. And I believe you continued to do work in the Bible House for Mr. Russell?

A. Yes, Sir, down to the time I took sick; and after that I kept on with the work all the time I was there.

You can read the full details HERE
See expose...

So Mr. Russell maltreated his wife, threatened her and even forced the separation.

And the gang of shameless hypocrites are trying to defend this.

Shameless trolls.
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Chris : How To.know Who To Marry by Maestro21: 3:43pm On Oct 14, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Naaaaaaaaaaaaa!
Chris and his church is no match for God's Organization!
You are the one who need to prove the spiritual worth of your pastor, i have presented so many things Jesus promised that people will see to identify his true Church.
So you only need to present what makes you attracted to this Chris of a man at least to show that he is truly a servant of the true God!

But before you do that let me hint you about black magic:
Throughout the world traditionalists have a form of charm that draws people to someone, the person may have nothing to offer and might even have questionable lifestyle but with that black magic charm majority will be drawn to him. In Yorùbá land we call it "Ẹ̀yọ́nú àwọn àgbà" or "Ẹ̀yọ́nú ayé" that's exactly what all these people you call Pastors are using to draw the masses to themselves.
In fact that's why you will see them accuse one another publicly yet those attracted to them will not be moved no matter the accusation!
Straw clutching, off point, no correlation to anything. You don't even know the man or the ministry you want to discuss.

How shameless of you. After you went on and on about separation and divorce, you immediately want to change the topic because you have been found out.

Petra1, I would not have this conversation with this person. What does light have to do with darkness? What does good have to do with evil?

This person should first express here how his leader and founder is a clown, hobnocker, shameless divorcee, failure and undeserving of speaking or leading people.

Until he says that, there is no point in conversing with him.
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Chris : How To.know Who To Marry by Maestro21: 3:39pm On Oct 14, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
[s]Well in reality you just mocked your religion because there's is a difference between the GIFTS of God's Holy Spirit and the FRUIT of God's Holy Spirit.
Jesus never said the GIFTS will be the sign of true Christianity rather it was the FRUIT that Jesus emphasized! Matthew 7:16-23
The book you quoted was not found in older manuscripts of the Bible so the book of Mark ended at Chapter 16 and verse 8.
Do you think Chris can really cure the sick? cheesy[/s]
RUBBISH!

What buffoonery is this? lol
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Chris : How To.know Who To Marry by Maestro21: 1:00am On Oct 14, 2021
Kobojunkie:
1. Pretend you have little sense yourself. Then go back and read to see how it does not matter when that recording was made since I clearly said it had nothing to do with God. undecided
You are slow. So when he taught that message he should not have taught it? Is that your point? If that message was say 2007, he was not allowed to teach it at the time?

2. The proof I have lives inside of me - His Spirit bears witness to me as go whose I am. undecided
lol.

Now, as for the signs listed in Mark 16 vs 15-17 as proof, recall what Jesus Christ also said of those who will come to you using what seems like some of those same signs in Matthew 7 vs 15 -23 in deceiving you away from God. undecided
Ok. So Jesus is confusing himself, right?

Instead pay attention to what Jesus Christ said of those who belong to Him. He was emphatic that they are those who submit to and obey His teachings and commandments... they bear fruits of obedience fruits which only those who abide in Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ abides in can produce .. fruits that last. undecided
so those signs are not fruits as well or you want to pick and choose?

3. Jesus Christ taught that to His followers. undecided
lol
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Chris : How To.know Who To Marry by Maestro21: 12:57am On Oct 14, 2021
Kobojunkie:
It doesn't matter who broke the contract. What matters here is that a contract existed in the one relationship type where it did not exist in similar manner in the other and so, the two relationships shouldn't even be compared at all. undecided
It matters who broke the contract.

If someone decides to divorce him, what should he do?
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Chris : How To.know Who To Marry by Maestro21: 11:57pm On Oct 13, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Marriage is a contract/Covenant, and the contract is broken at divorce. Whereas what existed between Jesus and Judas was a level of friendship, not a contract. And so the two relationships shouldn't even be compared at all. undecided

It doesn't matter what Paul said since Jesus Christ is God's Law and Truth, the King in the Kingdom of God by whose Word we will be judged. undecided
Did Jesus not explain that there were grounds for divorce? If a contract is broken who broke it - the one who asked for the divorce or the person who did not?

Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Chris : How To.know Who To Marry by Maestro21: 11:53pm On Oct 13, 2021
Kobojunkie:
undecided

1. Why should the date of the recording of this audio matter as far as any of what I stated? undecided
Pretend like you have sense a little. If this audio was done when he was still married does it not make your post irrelevant?

2. Paul's supposed teachings on marriage were wrong and against Jesus Christ's own teachings and commandments. So you tell me, did God call you to emulating Jesus Christ or Paul? undecided
I should have known. lol

3. Jesus Christ was clear that we are only to teach those in the world the Gospel of the Kingdom of God.. not marriage. The laws he gave us are all we are allowed to teach the world... nothing else. undecided
lol

4. I am a follower of Jesus Christ and I know what we were commanded by Him to doing. Anyone who is doing anything contrary is not of Him, so said Jesus Christ. Hence the reason why I am able to call this one out as such. undecided
what proof do we have that you are a follower of Jesus? Jesus told us the signs that will follow those who believe in him? Where are yours? If you have none, then we have no reason to listen to you.

5. Ministry credentials? I am afraid you have been fooled by these fools and their lies. There are no credentials necessary for those who are of Him. We are all called as servants to the Master and those who belong to the Master are those who do as He commands. undecided
Who said the below?

Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Chris : How To.know Who To Marry by Maestro21: 11:48pm On Oct 13, 2021
Janosky:
This one wey call himself Maestro21 dey think say he get SENSE. Kai !!!!!! cheesy
The screenshot proven Your bigotry is luminous.
For the same reason, in 1908, the US Court of Law awarded damages of #15,000 US dollars in favor of Mr Russell against The Washington Post for libel & character defamation, you Maestro21 moniker is proven your st✓pidity on this forum.
Emusan LIENUS ,Coman follow your friend continue WAILING upandan. grin grin
Let us prove who the stupid person is.

Where in your link says Mr Russell was not divorced or separated?

Where in your post shows your proof of why Pastor Anita filed for a divorce?

You are busy responding to questions you were not asked. What a dummy.

You are now quoting wikipedia, same you will denounce same wikipedia when it is used against you. lol
Christianity EtcRe: Fully Vaccinated 74-year-old SAN, Williams, Dies Of COVID-19 by Maestro21:
paxonel:
then you shouldn't come up with all these in the first place since you cannot defend your opinion
that it is exactly what?
Come up with all what? You are the one who came up with a nonsensical article from Guardian filled with gross ignorance and lies. lol
do you have any article to support all these you are saying that Biden forced or coarced people to take it?
If you don't know that Biden issued vaccine mandates after swearing that he would not (and could not) why do you think you have the knowledge base to discuss with me?
Because what i posted clearly showed that Trump never wanted to take the jabs initially and i remember all what he clearly said about the jabs
I have told you I don't listen to dumb speculations and dumber speculators like The Guardian you quoted which is riddled with stupid lies that make no sense. Anyone who listens to Pastor Chris for e.g will know that he is not getting his inspiration from any name mentioned there neither is he pro-Trump. lol. Next, instead of asking me stupid questions why not Google "Operation Warp Speed" and see which administration spearheaded it, when it started and when the jabs were rolled out.
First of all, no one is a kid here.
We all know the importance of vaccines when it comes to pandemic, so if someone is sponsoring vaccines you don't need to ask whether the person said he has good intention or not, we know his intention by what he has done.
I have never seen anyone so certain of their untenable and ignorant position. You know someone's intention by what he has done? Like when he created viruses for his Microsoft softwares and then sold an antivirus for those same softwares? Do you know he was fined heavily for doing this and hated by the business world in US? Do you know his philanthropical works began as a damage control stunt after he was vilified? if you did not know this before, why do you think you can argue with me today? You are the one saying what you think his intentions are - he himself said it was money for him. Hear him: https://www.cnbc.com/video/2019/01/23/bill-gates-and-the-return-on-investment-in-vaccinations-davos.html
But because of the evil heart of people(especially the pro Trumps where the likes of pastor Chris belong), they keep postulating theories like mark 666, Antichrist, end of the world in association to the vaccination. But when all that failed, then they started shouting, vaccines are killing people.
I wanted to be less harsh with you but you exposed yourself as an ignoramus so I have to beat some sense into you. You cannot provide at any point where Pastor Chris said this jab was the mark of the beast etc. Those of us who listen to him know exactly what he said. Second, from March 2020 he warned you foolish people that this whole shenanigan was not about COVID-19 but about vaccines and that they will mandate these vaccines, coerce people into taking it as part of the NWO plans. Can any fool deny that today everything he has said has happened and is happening? What fools now do is come up with spurious claims and then attach it to him - give a dog a bad name so you can hang it.
Mention one person that the vaccine has killed they cannot.
What a foolish question. I can give you names but I won't even go that far. The first nurse to be vaccinated - Tiffany Dover, died shortly after taking the jabs. They tried to deny it but it is 10 months gone now and she is still dead - very very dead and if you argue I will shower this place with links. Do you know what VAERS is? Have you researched Israel and their vaccine deaths toll? UK?
Is that not clear act of wickedness passing unverified information over what has to do with saving public lives?
What is unverified information? What errant nonsense are you talking about? Unverified information is the nonsense Guardian quoted. Trump calls himself Mr. Vaccine. He believes all the credit for this jab should be accredited to him. Where is your proof that Trump was ever against it? I can show you even Kamala Harris and many other democrats saying they won't take the jab and how we could not trust it.
Today in Europe, America, Asia and most countries that were badly hit by this pandemic in terms of mortality rate, economic activities has long started opening up against the lockdown that almost saw everyone muted owing to vigorous vaccination. What else do you want that doesn't show that vaccines are not harmful?
Hahahahaha. What about Israel? Singapore? What mortality rate changed? Do you know there are more deaths this year attributed to COVID-19 than there was at the same time last year in these continents you mentioned? Do you know Israel is experiencing spikes despite mandating jab 3? In fact, they now want to mandate jab 4 already?
Seriously, you people never had argument and you don't have anything to say against vaccination
What a dummy. Does the jab immunize?
ofcourse he will surely make his money for sponsoring what will become of high demand when the vaccines are tested useful over time.
What a load of tosh! You cannot be sponsoring something if that same thing is called an INVESTMENT.
That one is a big lie!
post it here let's see if what you are saying can be verified don't go and bring links that was concocted by foolish conspiracy theories.
Post a link that Mr Bill was arrested and arraigned for actually being indicted for killing one person through vaccination because he has said he want to reduce the world's population
grin grin grin Can you hear him? I can give you a longer video. You can hear him say it. And you call it conspiracy theories? What part of his OWN words don't you understand? What a dummy. https://www.bitchute.com/video/7ExcFDPOo164/

Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Chris : How To.know Who To Marry by Maestro21: 7:19pm On Oct 13, 2021
Kobojunkie:
It is no the same issue at all. undecided

A departure does the necessitate the breaking of a contract but a divorce does. undecided
So who departed and who broke a contract?

Did Jesus not state that there were possible grounds on which a contract could be broken?

Did Paul not re-echo same?
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Chris : How To.know Who To Marry by Maestro21: 7:18pm On Oct 13, 2021
Kobojunkie:
There is Everything Wrong with his message..
One being, God and Jesus Christ no send am message undecided.

Two, a man whose own marriage failed, rather than step to learn from his own mistakes, chooses to install himself as marriage counselor, against God, between God and His own.... is very wrong! undecided
You must not have an opinion on everything. Most real christians see your bible takes as laughable when not stupid.

An objective person may ask "when was this audio recorded?" before airing his errant and asinine view. That person can never be you.

Next, I don't see how your folly did not help you ask on what grounds should Paul have taught on marriage since he had no opinion to leverage on?

Okay, let us leave Paul aside. When is a marriage regarded as successful? At what point is a minister allowed to teach on marriage? So as long as a minister has no divorce certificate he is qualified?

So why should you qualify to determine if any minister should speak or not?

What ministry credentials do you have? How would you know what God told a man or did not tell a man?
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Chris : How To.know Who To Marry by Maestro21: 7:13pm On Oct 13, 2021
achorladey:
Discrediting the works and activities of others and raising their religious leaders and organisation above others is the name of their game grin grin


They call all christians denominations apart from their own in pidgin LIE LIE CHRISTIANS. Na their way. The foundation of the religion was based on CRITICISM. Russell and Rutherford knows and understand what such CRITICISM mean grin grin
I have never seen such barefaced hypocrisy and folly.

The man straight up tried to show a disparity between "divorces" and when he was found out, decided which story to believe and which was spurious but only the "bad" part of another man's story is true.
Christianity EtcRe: Fully Vaccinated 74-year-old SAN, Williams, Dies Of COVID-19 by Maestro21: 7:09pm On Oct 13, 2021
paxonel:
even if it's true that there is any such thing like new world agenda what do you think is the aim of this so called agenda?
You don't need my opinion on what their agenda is, you can listen to the people involved. They already told you what the agenda is about.
Mr Bill aim of tackling Donald Trump was to ensure that people were vaccinated against the corona virus which Trump ignorantly opposed but later changed his mind and was vaccinated.
Of course, this is a lie. Operation Warp Speed was initiated by the Trump administration. Trump never opposed these jabs, in fact he made it possible and gave the powers that be, every leverage to roll out their jabs in record time. Trump never "changed" his mind about jabs. It is the Biden administration that did. First claiming they won't take it and speaking against it, to suddenly forcing and coercing people into taking it.
Mr Bill had good intention by sponsoring vaccines. Calling that goodwill new world agenda shouldn't come from Christians, it's so awkward
Your poor and naive heart. At what point did Bill tell you he had good intentions for sponsoring vaccines? He called them his best investment till date and reeled out how much money he was going to make from it. He said in a Tedtalk that the world needed vaccination programs to reduce world population. Did he or did he not say so? So I can bring links for you.
Christianity EtcRe: Fully Vaccinated 74-year-old SAN, Williams, Dies Of COVID-19 by Maestro21: 7:02pm On Oct 13, 2021
LordReed:
Pericarditis: A swelling and irritation of the thin, sac-like membrane surrounding the heart (pericardium).
Pericarditis may be caused by a viral infection or heart attack.

The same situation that arises with cancer. A cancer patient goes to sleep has all their organs shutdown and they die yet the cause of death is written not organ failure but cancer.
Pericarditis is usually a complication of viral infections, most commonly echovirus or cocksackie viruses. Less frequently, it can be caused by influenza and similar.

Then all of a sudden, rising cases in both USA and UK following jabs. Even with the grand censorship and extremely poor data reporting. The CDC and UK health gov reported this.

But somehow, if a jabbed man dies of the very same symptoms, we will ignore all that and rule it as a COVID-19 death. lol

Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Chris : How To.know Who To Marry by Maestro21: 6:32pm On Oct 13, 2021
Emusan:
As usual, No Sense!



I bet you didn't know about Russell and his affair with Rose Ball

That's an assignment for you

grin cheesy cheesy grin cheesy cheesy



The same thing Russell did to his wife and even forcefully broke into her apartment

grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Chris : How To.know Who To Marry by Maestro21: 6:31pm On Oct 13, 2021
Emusan:
Now it has become spurious claim

cheesy grin cheesy grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin cheesy grin

Shameless lying liar JaNosense the son of his darling father the devil
You sef see am?

I have never seen such shamelessness.
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Chris : How To.know Who To Marry by Maestro21: 6:29pm On Oct 13, 2021
All of a sudden new monickers just "discovered" this thread after Russell's marriage was exposed. To defend their cult.

I have never seen this type of shamelessness before.

Any story about Russell is spurious but the one about any other man is TRUE.

Some people are just scum of the earth and I make bold to say it, JWits take the cake.

The most shameless cult on God's earth.
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Chris : How To.know Who To Marry by Maestro21: 6:27pm On Oct 13, 2021
Emusan is a legend.

See wounjury he is dishing out.

Achorladey is a word smith.

See posers they cannot answer.

Haahahahahaha.
Christianity EtcRe: Fully Vaccinated 74-year-old SAN, Williams, Dies Of COVID-19 by Maestro21: 1:18am On Oct 13, 2021
LordReed:
People just sleep and not wake up and are ruled out as covid deaths?
Yes. People have taken the jab, slept and died of pericarditis but the hospital ruled it as COVID19 - delta strain. lol
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Chris : How To.know Who To Marry by Maestro21: 11:50pm On Oct 12, 2021
Chaii...Chaiii.

There is God ooooh.
Christianity EtcRe: Fully Vaccinated 74-year-old SAN, Williams, Dies Of COVID-19 by Maestro21: 11:45pm On Oct 12, 2021
LordReed:
They don't do autopsy for cancer deaths either.
People just sleep and not wake up and are ruled out as cancer deaths? grin
Christianity EtcRe: Fully Vaccinated 74-year-old SAN, Williams, Dies Of COVID-19 by Maestro21: 11:44pm On Oct 12, 2021
paxonel:
no doubt!
Is he correct by accusing Bill gate of a new world order mentioned in the article below?

If he is correct, can you quickly explain?
If you have a video, audio or actual quote please provide it. I don't respond to speculations by mischievous people in the media.

But, just for the sake of it, are you implying that there is no new world order agenda and if you think there is, what makes you think Bill Gates is not part of it?
Christianity EtcRe: Fully Vaccinated 74-year-old SAN, Williams, Dies Of COVID-19 by Maestro21: 7:32pm On Oct 12, 2021
paxonel:
did pastor Chris study virology or do you think mere being intelligent is enough professionalism, why gambling with your life all in the name of believing in one pastor who doesn't understand science?
I don't know what you mean by science but he knows a lot more than just about anyone you can think of and EVERYTHING he has said has been 10000% correct. It is actually quite remarkable.
Christianity EtcRe: Fully Vaccinated 74-year-old SAN, Williams, Dies Of COVID-19 by Maestro21: 7:30pm On Oct 12, 2021
LordReed:
And you have more information than the son of the deceased because you are what exactly? The doctor who treated him or the CMD of the hospital?
You know there is nothing like autopsies for COVID19 deaths right? lol
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Chris : How To.know Who To Marry by Maestro21: 2:19am On Oct 11, 2021
KNOWMORE56:
It's ok. I will do as you've said.
For e.g here is what he said about mast.ur.bation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF_f4eTWxLg&list=LL&index=125

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Mc8LLDKK4o&list=LL&index=114
If you compare it to what they claim he said you will see the staggering differences. Besides, if you hear any part of it that needs explaining, I am sure petra1 or myself etc. will be able to answer the questions with more bible verses. These 2 videos were done in 2011 or earlier (so that people will not claim he tried to "correct" himself later). He has been consistent and fearless in his teachings from the bible.
By the way, what is he saying about his marriage. Does he intend to remarry or not.
He does not talk about his marriage but the only time I heard him say something about this, he said it during the "heat" of the crisis. He said he had been praying to God and God kept telling him "time and patience" and he knew that whenever God says so, it means it will take time and he will need to be patient but that it will still be resolved. I believe that since faith is the way human spirits respond to God's word, he is responding the same way by wearing his ring as a sign that nothing has changed and that God will restore his marriage like he had said he will. Till then, he is 1000% focused on his ministry and nothing else. Marriage can be a distraction for some people.
I've been trying to understand how he copes with his sex life since the divorce
Paul said some people are born eunuchs while others where made so. The point is, some people have that special grace.
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Chris : How To.know Who To Marry by Maestro21: 3:04pm On Oct 10, 2021
KNOWMORE56:
A

Petra1 you've made me to begin to like this man's sermons...

A lot of things are said against him, but many of his sermons are not bad...

except for few which I'm not comfortable with, e.g masturbation, spirit husband/wife,...

Well, may God help him to fulfill his area of calling.... and help me run my race to the end, in Jesus name, amen!
Always make sure you listened to a full audio or video on anything they claim he said. Make sure to listen very well or else they will mislead you. There are a lot of things he has been accused of saying that he did not say.
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Chris : How To.know Who To Marry by Maestro21: 3:02pm On Oct 10, 2021
achorladey:
That one that will tell you using one side his mouth that the name Christian is bastardized and cursed by Jehovah the reason Jehovah changed and gave him and the organization he belongs another name aka Jehovah’s witnesses in 1931

Then using the other side of his mouth, he will still be calling himself and the organization he belongs as the only true Christians grin grin

That backward and forward thinking at the same time.
You have the best answers for them. They always seem to dread replying you. lol
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Chris : How To.know Who To Marry by Maestro21: 4:07am On Oct 08, 2021
petra1:
Firstly im not in any Spot. Dont get petty on words. If the word divorce becomes an issue for you to embrace the bigger picture. let me compromise a little. lets use the prase. HE SENT HER PACKING.

That actually what the bible says. HE SENT HER AWAY! . Its common sense to know what thst means . the hebrew word their means divorce. i wasnt there to know they issue certificate. that will be petty and lame to hide under.
The truth is simple. MOSES SENT HIS WIFE AWAY . And he married another woman. period. If he accepts her back good for her.

many times when a woman is sent home. those who are mediating will still say "COME CARRY YOUR WIFE Back " or they say to a woman sent home "GO BACK TO YOUR HUSBAND"

The fact that they call them wife or husband didnt nulify the broken relationship. So dont get into semantics
People who do not have the spirit cannot understand the scriptures no matter how hard they try.

They will always study themselves into confusion as the exhibit you are replying has shown.

Anyone who can actually study will see, Moses sent Zipporah away before the exodus. The bible clearly shows she was sent back to her father's house. It is easy to infer that she did not want her children circumcised and Moses obliged her but God was unhappy with him, and wanted to kill him, so she hurriedly circumcised the child and let her anger known to Moses. He responded by sending her back home.

After the exodus and when Moses was now situated at the wilderness, her father re-unites her with her husband. The bible goes on to show us Moses' reverence for him by how he greeted the man and filled him in on all God had done for the Jews from Egypt to the wilderness. The reverence part was significant because it shows that Moses would have honoured the man's gesture to fix his marriage for him.

Bible students can clearly again see that it took at least a year from Egypt to the wilderness. So Moses spent what might be a year without that wife - Zipporah.

Now a critical thinker will ask himself a question, if Moses had married Zipporah years before the Jews got to the wilderness (he met her around age 40+ and left for Egypt age 80), why will Aaron and Miriam start challenging him about taking the same woman as wife - 40+ years later? It makes zero sense because it is not so.

Aaron and Miriam are challenging Moses in Numbers 12 because the law had been given at this time and Moses, by marrying again outside his tribe, had broken the law. That is why they challenged him. It was a recent event. Even Flavius Josephus the historian agrees with this.

To further buttress this point, you will have to be the greatest conspiratorial mind to draw a connection between the Midianites and the Cushites or Ethiopians. Zipporah was a Midianite and the new wife was an Ethiopian. This is more creditworthy as Numbers 12 does STRESS that the criticism against Moses was the nationality of his wife. If it was the same person, then her nationality should not have been emphasized but it was.
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Chris : How To.know Who To Marry by Maestro21: 2:52am On Oct 08, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
I just hope you can define what a Christian means using Jesus' viewpoint! smiley



All these beautiful compliments for a lost soul?
I believe you will win lots and lots of souls with those fine compliments.


Well my Bible doesn't teach me that God do have mercy on UNFORTUNATE, WICKED, DIABOLIC, DECEITFUL, VICIOUS, IRREVERENT and UNREPENTANT SOUL nah! cheesy
In fact what my Bible tells me is that only repentant sinners will be shown mercy so it's like your own god is a confused one o! cheesy
You are not a christian.
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Chris : How To.know Who To Marry by Maestro21: 9:10pm On Oct 07, 2021
petra1:
such things happens when someone is losing grounds. gets into attacks instead of Dwelling on scriptures and on the topic
That is why I don't engage them.
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Chris : How To.know Who To Marry by Maestro21: 9:05pm On Oct 07, 2021
achorladey:
Oga calm down and read comment for here well well.

The only thing I see from my post you quoted is.......

I'm not a member of Jehovah Witness, but you are funny. It is very dangerous to associate with people who misinterpret Bible.

You could have shown the misinterpretation in my post. All this your pastor Chris here and there, no be me send you that message oooo na you get hand to dey tear people slaps here and there.

Sha no tear unnecessary slap give person you no suppose. grin I no dey send person message of tearing person slaps for no reason. grin grin

The time you used in typing tearing books and tearing slaps will have been worthwhile adding your own bit with the numerous example cited before page 4 of this thread. grin

The agitation in this your post get as e be. Baba calm down. Na Bible talk sey do not be righteous overmuch.

New International Version
For who makes you different from anyone else? What do you have that you did not receive? And if you did receive it, why do you boast as though you did not? grin grin

New Living Translation
For what gives you the right to make such a judgment? What do you have that God hasn’t given you? And if everything you have is from God, why boast as though it were not a gift? grin grin

The Holy spirit that is making you spill all this na collect you collect am from somewhere. Why you come dey agitate like this as if sey na you dey manufacture holy spirit? cheesy cheesy
Please, be selective in who you respond to.

This person has mental problems. Please for the sake of sanity.

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