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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by main24(m): 11:47am On Sep 20, 2023
Trevor012:
Brighton is doing nothing special when it comes to scouting. They are just like the rest Epl mod table team with semi good players. The reason they are hyped it's down to their style of play and that's all on De zerbi coaching his team not management or owners. Erik 7evn is a useless coach who was badly exposed. Wolves did the same thing at old Trafford and should have scored 3 and even 4 goals with better finishing.
isolating management and the coach? lol
Trevor rest, you've won. 🙌🙌💯✔
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by main24(m): 11:43am On Sep 20, 2023
andrewbaba44:
Who Dey talk that one self ?

As far as there is finances guardiola won’t fail anywhere ,and[b] man united got the finance[/b]
who dash una finance? grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by main24(m): 11:38am On Sep 20, 2023
Trevor012:
That's a useless point. You are the one shouting about Glazers and structure. Was Ferguson not dominating football home and abroad under the Glazers?
No, he was not. SAF was a complete failure for good 4 years! grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by main24(m): 11:37am On Sep 20, 2023
Trevor012:
When Sir Ole was finishing top 3 back to back we didn't hear nonsense about how the structure was affecting him. The general agenda was Ole was a pe teacher and any other coach will be challenging for league titles with his squad. Patrickmumu was even calling Mctominay better than Rodri 😂 now we are here another nonsense excuse. Na Glazers make Brighton flog us senselessly for old Trafford despite missing half of their team , na Glazers make the team incapable of making passes 😂😂
How does a team maintain the same style of play even after changing their coach and almost half of their players?
How does a team keep scouting same profile of unknown players who then become big names later?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by main24(m): 11:33am On Sep 20, 2023
Trevor012:
Was Ferguson successful with the Glazers yes or no? That's the question you should be asking.
SAF flopped at Man U for over 4 years. lipsrsealed
He couldn't win even a spoon.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by main24(m): 11:32am On Sep 20, 2023
andrewbaba44:
Pep won’t flop at man united oga

Una too like to Dey find excuses abeg

At times try to tell yourselves the truth
José Mourinho won't flop at Man U too grin

SAF flopped at Man U for over 4 years. lipsrsealed
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by main24(m): 11:28am On Sep 20, 2023
Trevor012:
This same owners were here when Ferguson was dominating football world both home and abroad. But Pep Guardiola one of the greatest coach of all time will fail here. Excuses will never run dry 😂😂
Trevor, how many years did it take SAF to build his system?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by main24(m): 10:57am On Sep 20, 2023
patrickmuf:
We all know Liverpool were seriously plagued by injuries last season hence their poor performance but we all saw them push for a top 4 finish when their players began recovering from injuries. Their good start to the season is further proof that last season was just a one-off...
when are you going to give ETH his one-off season?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by main24(m): 10:36am On Sep 20, 2023
Oasis007:
My Prediction.

Bayern 1 - 2 Man United 😭😩🤲😭
7-1; anything less Bayern is not serious. lipsrsealed
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by main24(m): 10:33am On Sep 20, 2023
afrodoc2:
We can’t sign Pep because he won’t come here. Look at the clean and smart way he has planned his career. He goes to well run organisations with a very good structure in place.

We also have to remember that the good football Assanal is playing now took a couple of seasons to implement. There are serious reasons to criticise ETH but I honestly don’t think changing manager yet again will lead to any long term benefits.

Anybody who doubts the importance of a proper management structure should look at the sexy football Potter coached at Brighton and how utterly useless he looked at Chelshit.
spot on brother.

Management is the heart of any organization including sports.

The coach is just a very small part of the Management. Man U is trying to build a style of play from the coach, that is a tedious way of doing it.
Yet they keep changing coach every time.
The proper way is to figure out what you want, hire a coach and players that fits into that ideology.

If the management is clueless, then stop sacking your coach every year. Give one time to build the structure.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by main24(m): 10:22am On Sep 20, 2023
patrickmuf:
Watch City in Pep's first season or Liverpool in Klopp's first season. One thing is common, although the personnel was not good enough still you could see what they were trying to achieve.
Liverpool struggled last season, ETH did better than Klopp in terms of result last season even with everything Klopp has been building.

I am not good at stats, did Pep win any trophy in his 1st year with Man city??
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by main24(m): 9:47am On Sep 20, 2023
patrickmuf:
If we sign Pep today, will you bet that in 2 years we won't start playing a recognizable pattern?

The fear here is that we have not seen anything that suggests there's a foundation being laid...
Meanwhile Patrick what do you need to see to make you believe foundation is being laid??
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by main24(m): 9:44am On Sep 20, 2023
patrickmuf:
If we sign Pep today, will you bet that in 2 years we won't start playing a recognizable pattern?

The fear here is that we have not seen anything that suggests there's a foundation being laid...
it might not happen in 2 years. Too many drama when it comes to signing with Man U.
Too many internal drama with the club as well.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by main24(m): 9:13am On Sep 20, 2023
ChristoBam:
Lmao who says I won't complain? I'll complain and rant if he plays badly. That's normal. That doesn't mean I'll ignore the reality of things presently.

I was probably going to complain here about Rashford after the match till I saw people taking it to the extreme as usual. It was the same with Bruno last year. It's even exactly the same thing.

There are so many players I want to rant about but after reading a few posts, I turn to a defender. Sometimes I want to point out some things Ten Hag's getting totally wrong, but I can't cuz all I'll be doing is boosting the agendas of the reactionary ones that want him out. It's always the extreme with us.
That's the spirit, rant and complain but don't go overboard.

I am still ranting about my boy Rashford that will not pass to save his life unless he is playing with Martial. cry cry
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by main24(m): 9:06am On Sep 20, 2023
patrickmuf:
Barcelona has undergone a rebuild but in that period they have managed to remain competitive on the domestic front and are doing everything possible to be a force in the continental stage (UCL) but we are still rebuilding forever...This club is cursed, De Gea was right...
The club is not cursed, if anyone is cursed, maybe it's the fans.
The fans keep asking for managers to be sacked every year, rebuild will never start.

Rebuild takes time and focus.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by main24(m): 5:10pm On Sep 19, 2023
ChristoBam:
If dem start Garnacho against Bayern tomorrow, your mind go cut. Going into the game, Rashford's probably that one guy you know can grab us that win or draw. So I don't even understand.
grin cheesy cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by main24(m): 1:20pm On Sep 19, 2023
eph12:
They have not really been bad. Its the midfield that has been bad. No matter how good a defense is, if there is a poor midfield in front of the defense. it will leak goals. And the funny thing is when they leak goals, the next move will be to change the defense while the midfield remains the same. But give it some time, the new defense will start to leak goals too.

Hopefully when we get Amrabat, Kobe and Mount back, our midfield won't be express anymore
I agree with you.
That Midfield is just terrible.
I hope ETH will focus on it.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by main24(m): 1:13pm On Sep 19, 2023
eph12:
Actually this was how he played last season too. We thought it was because of Weghorst that our attack was poor. We have "better" striker now, and no chance was created for him through out the time he was on the pitch.

I would rather be surprised if he assist his team mates to close down passing channels.
Exactly. We are only complaining now because he is not scoring yet. When he starts scoring we will forget again that Rashford will not pass to save his life. grin cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by main24(m): 1:10pm On Sep 19, 2023
eph12:
Sancho has been tried many times. He is not a new signing.

Rashford has been tried and trusted in a counter football where he plays on the shoulder of the last defender. But the mandate for ETH is to build a team while improving the quality of our football. This is not some quick fix something. Its a gradual process. This is the second season, how far have we gone with this? But if I'm wrong and ETH just wants to win something anyhow anyhow, then while he may win something, he will end up sacked and the next coach will start from zero.
You know most fans just wants ETH to win something as fast as possible, with any means necessary.
This is the same Man U of last season. Nothing has changed.
Whenever Rashford's scoring period comes again and we start winning games, most fans will forget it is just individual brilliance pushing us.

DDG is gone now, so no individual saves to give us clean sheets.
Martinez and the defence department has been bad, so Onana is in for it.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by main24(m): 1:00pm On Sep 19, 2023
everton4life:
undecided Anyway, how do we plan to lose tomorrow? What sorrow has this balloon head planned for us?
It is certain we are losing. The only question is, are we going to put up an improved performance?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by main24(m): 12:58pm On Sep 19, 2023
melodyogonna:
Rashford and Bruno Fernandes are the two players on this team you don't want to bench even if they're playing terribly. They're the only two capable of making a difference in a split second
Their wire can spark anytime.
And sentiments aside, with our current squad I don't see anyone doing better than them even when they are terrible.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by main24(m): 12:49pm On Sep 19, 2023
eph12:
I see what the problem is. The fans. I guess they have placed Rashford in an untouchable position. We shall see
I feel the problem is inadequate players to compete for that role.

Luke shaw started playing like a beast when it looked like Malacia will dethrone him.
Wan Bissaka and Dalot are both fighting for their lives in their position...
Aside those positions, no other position has good players competing for it.
Your brother sancho is nowhere to be found, we could have tried him grin cheesy 🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by main24(m): 12:35pm On Sep 19, 2023
eph12:
Garnacho. dem forbid Rashford to come in from the bench or its reserved for some others?
cool.
I feel if ETH starts Garnacho over Rashford, the fans will still eat him raw.

We are just insatiable.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by main24(m): 10:53am On Sep 19, 2023
eph12:
If that's the instruction from the coach, then we have a bigger problem. That's not progressive football and our attack will struggle. Yes Rashford may end up with 20+ goals, but like last season we will score one of the lowest number of goals. While Rashford is getting some accolades in the media, the team will be struggling with goal difference
I think that is why ETH always has one player running around the field,...Weghorst, now Mount. cheesy

Well let's see how he progresses from here.
That being said, our last match's performance was way better than previous games this season. ETH should continue tweaking his team.
We wait cool.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by main24(m): 10:47am On Sep 19, 2023
eph12:
[b]Rotate the players. Why can't Rashford come in from the bench in some games? [/b]He is worse coming from the bench?

All hell broke loose because it wasn't about the performance but power play. He wanted to be the biggest person in the room and that's fine. If it was about performance, Rashford would have been benched by now.
You've still not named anyone to start ahead of Rashford yet eph12 smiley
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by main24(m): 10:44am On Sep 19, 2023
Leyqute:
Personally, I’m starting to think that Rashford instructed to conserve his energy and be our main outlet for goals. That’s why he rarely pressed or defended and had the most chances for United.

Rashford had like six shots or eight versus Brighton and Hojlund had zero. Zilch. Odo. He didn’t get any service, or any that he connected with. The only one he connected with turned into a goal, but Rashford delayed the pass too long and it was out of play. It was even as a last resort because he’d played his normal rubbish.

I think ETH has to put Rashford in his place. He should stop pressuring himself to score. Everyone must work hard, create chances for others, and score goals when in the right positions.

The Rashford favoritism should end. “Gernacho” has better decision making most times. If Rashford is off ona particular day, Genarcho grin should come in and create chances, etc.

Cc: Christobam
Good stuff. I feel same way too.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by main24(m): 9:20am On Sep 19, 2023
ChristoBam; I feel the same way.
Rashford's decision making is killing me but the question is who can even put up a good performance than him with this current squad?

You remember when ETH benched Cr7 because he was performing badly, all hell broke loose online. lol

eph12; Garnacho has shown to play better coming from the bench; if Rashford is benched, who will be your preferred replacement?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by main24(m): 5:03pm On Sep 04, 2023
Meanwhile, Erik Ten hag being this bad is still miles ahead of Sir Alex Ferguson's 1st four years.

Sir Alex Ferguson was horrible in his 1st four years. Couldn't even win a tea spoon for Man U. grin

Sir Alex Ferguson was indeed the useless (best) coach. cool
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by main24(m): 4:33pm On Sep 04, 2023
Trevor012:
What a senseless take. Before Erik 7even publicly called out Sancho did he drop anything online. The treatment awb received already shows how bald head treats players. So Awb was working hard in training yet was still not getting picked for the match day squad for almost 4 months. What an Own goal 😂😂
Trevor,
However an employee is treated by the boss doesn't change how the employee is supposed to act.
If an employee feels he does not like the way the boss treats him, it's time to leave that place.

Nothing good comes from fighting the head of your organization.
Just quietly leave when you're no longer enjoying your stay.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by main24(m): 2:03pm On Sep 04, 2023
Leyqute:
Even AWB sef.
AWB didn't bother dropping any letter online grin
See him balling now.
Result is the name of the game.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by main24(m): 1:53pm On Sep 04, 2023
Rule 1; never outshine the master.

Sancho, time to go!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by main24(m): 12:30pm On Aug 20, 2023
melodyogonna:
Lol.

People dey muzz me sha. But it's not that simple. If he plays 6 months in the position he might start grasp what is really needed. You're being dishonest by trying to make it just another position. A CF and a Winger plays fundamentally different styles
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Stay blessed jare.

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