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CeoMYN:
So the Koran is not open to debate Well, I don't want more mentions to come up, so let's end it here.

you don't question Muslims, the Quran or Muhammed lifestyle. if you cannot do all this, how can you debate ?

Roon9:
Muslims in their hearts know the truth about Jesus beign the only Son of God and the real genuine intermediary between man and God, they just don't wanna say it out loud

correct bro.

Empiree:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxKxrvuEI38&feature=push-u&attr_tag=MfitO79Byuj-eXDu-6

what is this, is this supposed to be a rebuttal or what ? Muslims will take over the world when the true worshippers of God has left.

plaetton:
Yeah, my ToothFairy is most gracious, isn't he ?
Hallelujah!!

I think you will be the next atheist to accept Christ. I believe , this will happen very soon.

plaetton:
Hey Long time malvisguy.
I hope all is welle welle at your end.

by His grace am good.

plaetton:
Lol.
The tangled web of confusion and conflicts we call religion.

hey bro. long time, good to see you.

GoodMuyis:
Nobody fight na oga, wetin happen na him we dey call *2go upandan*

If you dey Kabala name one street make see

I don't live their, I was in a bus when it all started.

shadeyinka:
I am not surprised that up till now, no Muslim has come up with a counter. The evidence is glaring.

Its easy for them to suppress the truth. How?
...by chanting Lailah illahla 770 times.

I pray , let the truth be sealed in their heart in Jesus name.

ChiomaMee:
In my bible, I see nowhere God or the Holy spirit was referred to as "it"

very good bro. so afteral you are not a jehovah witness , next time read the argument very well. thank you.

no reply ? were are my Muslims Friends ?

ChiomaMee:
"I wanted to write a long epistle but I decided against it. Let me ask me a question, who did Annanias lie to?"......it's better this way sir.

Annanias lied to the Holy spirit.

very good. can you lied to an IT ?

Then in verse 4, who is Ananias accused of lying to? God. is God an It ?

GoodMuyis:
I lived In Kabala West, so I have 1st hand details, Security meeting, District Head and Security Personnel Just ended some minutes ago

so you live in kabala west ? that's nice. the fight begin in my presence.

ChiomaMee:
Did u get what it's called HOLY SPIRIT!

Quit trying to justify what's not right

I want to write a long epistle, but instead I say no,let me ask you a question first. who did Annanias lied to in Acts 5:1-6 ?

true2god:
Thanks bro. I have been off and on, I often peep on NL religion section and go.

Thanks for your good works in exposing allahh and his assistant (messenger).

welcome back bro.

joyandfaith:
From your erroneous view, wisdom, sin etc are also persons? The Scriptures do at times personify the holy spirit, but this does not prove that the holy spirit is a person. The Bible also personifies wisdom, death, and sin. ( Proverbs 1:20; Romans 5:17, 21 ) For example, wisdom is said to have “works” and “children,” and sin is depicted as seducing, killing, and working out covetousness.— Matthew 11:19; Luke 7:35; Romans 7:8, 11

if the Holy spirit is an active force then everyone will be entitled it, both the godly and ungodly.

annunaki2:
Very good observation by the OP, mohamed is actually the real god of Islam, he only introduced Allah to add some mystique to his narcissist claims. He also lied that Allah is the biblical God to give his ludricous claims credibility.

thank you bro. let us wait for insult rather than defence.

shadeyinka:
Nice one OP.

Unfortunately, no Muslim will analyze this post and come to a conclusion that none of the earlier prophets practiced Islam; Only Mohammed and his followers did.

Two gods indeed and very true

thank you my Friend, Muhammad exalt himself above Allah.

true2god:
The truth is that allahh had no significance before the coming of Mohammed. allahh only became a popular dude after Mohammed declared him (or it) the only God and he (Mohammed) the only apostle of allahh. No other prophet knew or worshipped allahh except Mohammed. No other biblical prophet talked about mecca or Medina.

Islam is all about allahh and Mohammed, or 'allahh and his messenger'. To me, Mohammed and allahh are one and the same. No any allahh gave Mohammed any revelation, all the alleged revelations he claimed to have (or give) are 100% for his personal benefit. Read surah 33 for more info.

long time bro, good to know you are alright .
we are not waiting for response from our Muslims
friends, but insult.....everyday, we see Muslims proven this to be true, Insult Allah and you go Scott free, but insult Muhammad and you pay with your life.

Take for example, the number of times a Muslim has to pray daily. The Qur’an outlines only three daily prayers for Muslims. However, Muhammad changed that to five daily prayers in the Hadith. Thus, his teachings in the Hadith supersede the teachings of Allah in the Qur’an. Today, Muslims all over the world pray five times daily. Muhammad contradicted the teachings of Allah in the Qur’an and came off victories. Not only Muslims elevate the teachings of Muhammad above Allah but they also idolize the man himself. In the following Hadith, we can clearly see how Muslims idolize Muhammad:

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 4, Number 171:
Narrated Ibn Sirrn: I said to ‘Ablda, “I have some of the hair of the Prophet which I got from Anas or from his family.” ‘Abida replied. “No doubt if I had a single hair of that it would have been DEARER TO ME than THE WHOLE WORLD and whatever is in it.”

How can Muslims view a single shred of hair as more valuable than the entire earth and its contents? The veneration of relics is a common practice in paganism. If this is not idolatry, then what is it? Still not convinced? How about the next Hadith?

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 4, Number 617:
“Narrated Abu Musa: Then the prophet asked for a drinking bowl containing water and washed his hands and face in it, and then took a mouthful of water and threw it therein saying to us, ‘Drink some of it and pour some over your faces and chests and be happy at the good tidings.’”

Acts of devotion such as the ones displayed by Muslims towards Muhammad in the above Hadith are not only outright filthy but also idolatrous. The Holy Bible clearly warns against idolatry:
1 Corinthians 10:14: Therefore, my beloved ones, flee from idolatry.

now contrast what Muhammad did in the above hadith with what Jesus did when He humbley wash His disciples feet.

Muslims often declare that Islam is a great monotheistic religion. Is this true? well, in this thread I will prove why this claim is absolutely false. all the evidence are there in the Quran and hadith.

When a Muslim is engaged in prayer (salat), it is forbidden for him to respond to anyone who interrupts his prayer. Muslims, out of respect for Allah, will not interrupt a fellow-Muslim while he is praying. However, Muhammad is an exception to this rule.He tells Muslims that even if they are performing prayers to Allah, they must respond to him when he calls them. Muhammad invoked Surah 8:24 to justify his case.

Surah 8:24: “O you who believe! Answer the call of Allah AND HIS APOSTLE when he calls you to that which gives you life; and know that Allah intervenes between man and his heart, and that to Him you shall be gathered.” (Shakir)

Carefully consider now how the Prophet of Islam clarified the meaning and the application of the above Qur’anic verse.

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 60, Number 226:
Narrated Abu Said Al-Mualla: While I was praying, the Prophet passed by and called me, but I did not go to him till I had finished my prayer. When I went to him, he said, “What prevented you from coming?” I said, “I was praying.” He said, “Didn’t Allah say” “O you who believe GIVE YOUR RESPONSE TO Allah and to His APOSTLE.” (Surah 8:24)

LET US ANALYZE THIS QUR'ANIC VERSE WITH THE ABOVE HADITH.
Muslims are required to honor Muhammad above Allah. why did I say this ? it may appear to Muslims that Muhammad was only demanding his right but there is MORE to this. It is important to note that each time Muhammad interrupts the prayer of a Muslim, he simultaneously interrupts Allah from receiving the prayer of that Muslim. This means that Muhammad has the authority to interrupt even Allah from receiving the prayers of his worshipers. Between Allah and Muhammad, Muslims are specifically commanded to give their priority to Muhammad even when it involves something as sacred as their worship of Allah. Is this not a subtle form of polytheism? Does not this exalt Muhammad to a position equal or even greater than Allah?

The Shahada is the Islamic profession of faith. It is the first and most important of the Five Pillars of Islam. It is a testimony of the Islamic Faith which declares:
“There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his messenger.” Anyone who does not recite the
Shahada is not a Muslim. However, a Muslim cannot be a Muslim by invoking the name of Allah only when reciting the Shahada. For his Shahada to be legitimate, it is absolutely necessary for the Muslim to include the name of Muhammad. Believing in Allah alone is not enough to be a Muslim. A Muslim must also believe in Muhammad:
Surah 49:15: The believers are only those who believe in Allah and HIS MESSENGER . (Shakir)

Believing only in the teachings of Allah with the exclusion of the teachings of Muhammad will result in the loss of many essential details that are vital for the salvation of Muslims. This is because the Qur’an does not contain all the regulations that are required of a Muslim to live out his faith. Therefore, a devout Muslim must also know and obey the Sunnah (sayings and deeds) of Muhammad in order to follow Islam. A Muslim cannot attain Paradise if he does not believe in the Sunnah of Muhammad. Thus, the teachings of Muhammad are elevated to the same intensity as the teachings of Allah in the Qur’an. In fact, to escape the fires of Hell, a Muslim must obey both Allah and Muhammad.

Surah 4:14: And whoever disobeys Allah and HIS MESSENGER and goes beyond His limits, He will cause him to enter fire to abide in it, and he shall have an abasing chastisement. (Shakir)

yes, I know Muslims will deny this , and even insult me , However, the reality belies their claim. In actual practice, Muslims merge the words of Allah with the words of a man. And by recognizing them both as equally binding for their salvation, Muslims elevate Muhammad to the status of Allah. If the teachings of Muhammad are recorded in the Qur’an, then there is no valid reason to object. However, since his teachings are not included in the Qur’an, it shows that Muslims are actually required to submit to teachings based on two different sources.

OLAADEGBU:
Jesus taught us to pray that way, how is that a proclamation of faith and not a personal wording?

"the Lord is MY Shepard " notice the word "my" is a personal wording. there is big different when come to know the Lord as your sharperd.

" OUR father" notice the word " our" when you say our father it mean God is our father and we are His children, you are my brother and we became ONE family. this is not a personal word, Jesus could've say " My father in heaven" but no, He say OUR father in heaven.

shadeyinka:
Josephus wrote his unbiased report of the history of the Jews. Christians will certainly not agree with everything he said but he has nothing to gain by fixing Jesus into his stories. Moreover, he labeled "Jesus as a Trouble Maker".

It shows one thing, and that is " a historical Jesus indeed existed and was crucified" and his disciples sing hymn to Him as God.

Unlike our Muslim friends who would rather reinvent history about Jesus crucifixion.

agreed. I am only making my argument known to atheist, " Jesus exist and He has made God known to us" I did not mentioned Josephus In my post, I wrote, historian prove Jesus exist . thank you.

CatfishBilly:
What has that got to do with anything?
Address the post, not the messenger.

did he ask a question ? what is there to address ?

shadeyinka:
I am too sure you never ever even saw the back cover of any of Josephus's works else, you would have spoken with wisdom.

are you an atheist ? I don't really understand you.

HerPov:
I really really really really really really need advice

this is the first time I am comenting on a thread like this.... when you made a decision, stick with it, you said it yourself, the man does not take you serious, be a virteuos woman, overcome your problem by His grace. don't friend your boyfriend rather friend your husband. nothing is to hard for God to do. are you born again Christian

Mightyraw:
U've been noticed,
I guess you see how brilliant u can be

yeah. thank you for reading my post, let it be sealed in your heart.

they sold there soul to the devil. Islam is a religion that encourage death, and the last enemy that will be destroyed is death. the different between Muhammed and Jesus is Life and death. Jesus gave life to lifeless person while Muhammed take life away from the helpless.

sodsak:
was jesus man, God,half man, half God,angel? which one exactly bcs ii don't know how a person will be part of God

let me give you an example. how can someone be a demon and then be an human ? he was a fully man and fully demon and both nature are distinct from each other. I saw a demon possess man say he wasnt to kill his wife but after he was deliver ,he deny ever use such word, now why did he deny ? it is because the two nature ( demon and man) are distinct from each other thus he was fully man and fully demon.

so Jesus is fully and fully God. God the son made His dwelling on Jesus the man.

sodsak:
the bible says in john1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God....this verse is simply interpreted to mean jesus is the same as God,If truely jesus was crucified on the cross,that means God died ,so my question is,who was controlling the world when jesus(God) the creator of heaven and earth was killed by those he created, and do we really think God can die for a second talkless of 3 days?

Nicho118:
Who was Jesus praying to in the mountain the night before he was crucified?

sodsak:
the bible says in john1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God....this verse is simply interpreted to mean jesus is the same as God,If truely jesus was crucified on the cross,that means God died ,so my question is,who was controlling the world when jesus(God) the creator of heaven and earth was killed by those he created, and do we really think God can die for a second talkless of 3 days?

let me give you an exmple, when the disciples ask Jesus to teach them how to pray, how did Jesus began ? Our father who art IN HEAVEN. so what does it mean ? God the father is in heaven, it was God the son who dwell in Jesus, God the father is in heaven . so when Jesus was praying,he was praying as a man to God the father. Jesus is fully man and fully God. the fact that He was born at a particular point of time prove He was a man and the fact that His origin is unknown ( Micah 3:5) prove He was God.

OLAADEGBU:
What about "Our Father, who art in heaven hallowed be thy name?" Why doesn't it read "my Father?"

our father is like a proclamation of faith, a prayer which every christian should do, there is no personal wording in it. but psalm 23 is David own word " the Lord is MY Shepard"

KingEbukasBlog:
Josephus' writings about Christ as non biblical source add more credibility to the fact that Christ existed here on earth .

excellent bro. and also the bible say God exist and Jesus has made Him known to us. the fact that there are non biblical source the prove that Jesus exist, this also prove that God exist.