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onyenze123:
I have faith that God created the universe but what I don't like is people using unsolved and unknown phenomenon as a proof for his existence.

There was a time lighting was believed to be the wrath of God, should we continue this way?

I am a deist

EvangelistNdudi:
then who did?

dalaman:
I don't know.

onyenze123:
KingEbukasBlog

"I don't know, it must be God"

please don't belittle God. If you don't know, start researching.

luvmijeje:
Sefini. Why are we being told to resist the devil if we are predestined?

truthmans2012:
Yes, that's the truth.

Muslims should by now come to term with the fact that God is solidly behind Christianity and Christians.

EvangelistNdudi:
No, I am not a Catholic member why should I believe that the book was not writing by Solomon

EvangelistNdudi:
please read the post again and understand the message

thank you.

Stewie101:
So you guys believe God exists and that he hears your prayers, and every good thing that happens to you is within his control. So I am challenging you guys to a one month exercise. The exercise is simple. Just for one month, live your life like God doesn't exist. Don't pray. Don't sing praises. Just cleanse your minds of any belief that God exists. If you do this, what you'll realize is that your life would still conduct itself the same way. Sometimes you'll have it good, sometimes you'd have it bad. Why? Because that's the true picture of reality. Good and bad happens to us in the world. You wouldn't need to ascribe the good to God and you wouldn't need to make excuses for God for the bad.

Take Sweden as an example. More than half of the Swedish population do not believe in the existence of your Christian God or the God of any religion, many of this percentage don't even believe in the existence of a God. Yet these people live happy lives.They get jobs. They get married. They have children. They live long life's. These are the kind of things Christianity promises Christians. But it's patently obvious that no religion has proprietary rights to these "blessings." If one needs to believe God to have these kind of "blessings," who then is providing the needs of these Swedes who sin against God everyday by not acknowledging his existence?
I am not saying that the people in countries like Sweden don't experience the occassional bad stuff in their lives, they do, just like everyone else in the world does, including Christians, but unlike you Christians, they aren't making excuses for their God using statements like: "God knows best" "No one can question God." "Everything works together for our good." "God's time is the best." They simply recognize that it's all part of our experience on earth and they move on.

I don't see why anyone needs to believe in something that clearly doesn't intervene in their lives.

neoapocalypse:
And logical reasoning is far from you

BigBrother9ja:


VERY SILLY PEOPLE

IMAGE OF JESUS KOR, IMAGE OF BUHDA OR MOHAMED NI

SO, HE MURDERED THEM FOR A REASON ABI?

AND HE APPEARED THERE TO INFORM THEM THAT HE DID IT.


NONESENSE!

Scholar8200:
Indeed, very long; just got tired of wasting my time with this part of the forum; shallow, pointless, banal and carnal arguments of folks here is a waste of time and life. Greetings.

MistadeRegal:
Mine.
KJV
James 2:14-26

malvisguy212:
Cc lalasticala

malvisguy212:
In the Gospels, a rich, young man approached Jesus and said to him, “Good teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?” Jesus gave the infamous reply,“Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone.” This story is
found in Matthew, Mark, and Luke; critics of Jesus’ claims to deity often use it as ammunition in their case for a non-
divine Jesus. It seems, they argue, that
Jesus is denying deity here by refusing
the title ‘GOOD’ as it is something reserved solely for God. I contend that even a surface-level reading of this narrative does not even remotely support that conclusion.
I don’t see how Jesus’ clarification of
God’s nature is equivalent to him
denying deity. This is akin to someone
coming to me and calling me, “Dr. Paul.” I respond by saying, “Why do you call me
doctor? No man can be a doctor, only he
who holds a doctorate.”

I can either mean one of two things:

1. No one can be a doctor unless he
holds a doctorate.
2. I do not hold a doctorate.
3. Therefore, I am not a doctor.


or…

1. No one can be a doctor unless he
holds a doctorate.
2. I hold a doctorate.
3. Therefore, I am a doctor.

By asking “Why do you call me doctor?”,
am I denying my title? Of course not. I
am simply clarifying what the title
means. I am neither validating nor
rejecting the title. In any case, I don’t
have a doctorate (yet!) but the point still
stands.

You can see how such reasoning is
completely absurd, and yet this is what
we see when critics use Jesus’ words in
this passage to try to show his non deity. Having said all of that, let’s have another look at what Jesus said in this passage.

He only said two statements:

1. Why do you call me good?
2. No one is good except God

The only piece of information that Jesus
gave is this: No one is good but God.
There are 2 ways to understand his
statement:

1. Only God is good.
2. I am not good.
3. Therefore, I am not God.

or

1. Only God is good.
2. I am good.
3. Therefore, I am God.

In this specific instance, from these
words alone, Jesus does make known to
us which of these he meant. It is both
ignorant and presumptive of anyone to
use this passage, alone, to argue for
Jesus’ non-deity. Why should the first
reading be the desirable one over the
second reading? Jesus’ statement that
only God is good does not, itself, tell us
whether he was affirming or denying
being God.

But if we keep reading, we find that
Jesus sheds some light on what he
meant. Jesus answers the man’s original
question about obtaining eternal life
with this“You know the commandments:

‘You shall not murder, you shall not
commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, you shall not defraud, honor your father and mother.'”

The man responds :”Teacher, I have kept all of these since I was a boy.”

Then Jesus finishes with: “One thing you
lack. Go, sell everything you have then
come, follow me.”

To summarize: In response to the man’s
question, “What must I do to gain eternal life?”, Jesus responds by telling him to
follow the commandments. But which
commandments does Jesus list?
Notice that Jesus only lists the
commandments that dealt with civil
affairs. The Ten Commandments of
Moses were divided into 2 parts: Laws on
dealing with God and Laws on dealing
with others. Respectively, these were the
moral and civil laws. Jesus names the
civil law for the young man and the
young man responds like any good Jew
would, These I have kept since I was
young.” The man was doing great on
keeping the civil law, but not so much
with the moral law. Instead of then
quoting the first four commandments to
the young man,the commandments that
dealt with man’s relationship with God, Jesus told the young man, “Sell your
possessions and follow me.” In other
words, “Your god is your money. Get rid
of that and follow me.” Jesus is equating
obeying the moral law with following
himself. The manner in which men can
obtain eternal life is by getting rid of the
false gods in their lives and following
Jesus , replacing them with him!
This claim is monumental! And it gives us
an answer to our initial dilemma. Did
Jesus deny or affirm his deity in asking,
“Why do you call me good?” I think the
answer is clear in light of the rest of that
conversation with the young man. Jesus
equated following himself with keeping
the moral law and obeying the
commandments that governed man’s
relationship with God. Thus, in bringing
up this passage as ammunition for a
non-divine Jesus, the critic shoots
himself in the foot by bringing to the
table a text in which Jesus clearly claims
deity.

MrEgbegbe:

God this, God that

God does not exist

We have been expecting his coming since 5 million years ago

He will throw people who don't believe in him into the hell fire ?? What type of fire is in that hell fire ?? It has been flaming for 5 million years without stopping and the people in it haven't turned to ashes ??

God sits in heaven, in a palace decorated with golds and his children are on earth starving and dying of cancer

Can you go tell that story to primary school kids

FriendChoice:
Nope that's not. Or do you think am illiterate?

God was telling him He will born a son (John) and you're saying He was confirming Jesus? Confirming what that does not exist. Read the verse that follow it. Maybe you will understand better.


"…God gives you good news of (a son whose name is) John, (who comes) to confirm a word from God…" (Quran 3:39)

He said, "My Lord, how will I have a boy when I have reached old age and my wife is barren?" The angel said, "Such is Allah ; He does what He wills." (Qur'an 3:39)




We don't know this because Adam have none while Jesus have mother.

if Jesus is god because John has father and mother. Then ADAM must be a greater God who has no father and mother.




To show that God can do and undo in any way HE wishes.

Indeed, the example of Jesus to Allah is like that of Adam. He created Him from dust; then He said to him, "Be," and he was.


Thaz power of God " Be and it is "

FriendChoice:
You're still saying the same thing: Its God word from who? ist from you? its from God. Other verses of the Qur'an will explain it to you.


When I say His Book. What does that mean. That the book and it owner are the same? is the book and the person in question both human or both objects? or different.

"…O Mary! Behold, God gives you good news of a word from Him, who shall become known as the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary..." (Quran 3:45)


"…The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of God, and His word which He conveyed unto Mary..." (Quran 4:171)

"…God gives you good news of (a son whose name is) John, (who comes) to confirm a word from God…" (Quran 3:39)


The first verse here explain your misconception.

The second verse that you're quoting tells you Jesus is nothing but a messenger (The same verse you want use to prove your point)


The third verse correspond to the 3rd one. Both Jesus and John are word from God.

FriendChoice:
So the angels called him while he was standing in prayer in the chamber, "Indeed, Allah gives you good tidings of John, confirming a word from Allah and [who will be] honorable, abstaining [from women], and a prophet from among the righteous." [Qur'an 3:39]

Yahya is word from God also. Why don't you worship him.


Again you said he become flesh?


Do you know that God is spirit and have no flesh as you see Jesus have?

FriendChoice:
No. Who was born on 25 December? He has no beginning hahaha

Before Jesus, Yahya (John) was also called spirit from God.




Look at the above below to see a clear contradiction. You first said He has no beginning but now you said he has unique beginning.



GOD do what HE wish at any time HE want. Multiple of Bible verse tell us Jesus is not god.

FriendChoice:
You said Jesus is not from sperm that fertilize egg. That's what make him god. Is that?

Was Adam made from sperm that fertilize an egg? No.
Jesus come from the womb of a woman while Adam was made by God himself.

Adam should be a greater god not the god that die crying on the cross.

obafemee80:
If the claim is made that `Jesus is Allah’s(GOD)son because he was created without a father, then the same claim befits Adam even more because Allah created Adam without a Father or mother.

@ OP,why are you cherry-picking the facts that favours you from the GLORIOUS QURAN
Pls add dis

“The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: “Be.” And he was.” (3:59)

"Such was Jesus, the son of Mary; it is a statement of truth, about which they vainly dispute. It is not befitting to the majesty of God, that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! When He determines a matter, He only says to it, ‘Be' and it is" (Quran 19:34-35)

"People of the Book (Jews and Christians)! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, and attribute to God nothing except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was only a Messenger of God, and His command that He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in God and in His Messengers, and do not say: ‘God is a Trinity.' Give up this assertion; it would be better for you. God is indeed just One God. Far be it from His glory that He should have a son. To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and in the earth. God is sufficient for a guardian" (Quran 4:171).

There are other creations of ALLAH like Jesus Christ of Nazareth

Adam has no father and mother.Allah created him with His own hands and breathed His holy spirit into Adam.
Awa(eve),has a father(Adam) and no mother

malvisguy212:
Hellow.

truthwins:
Hello bro.

Missed you.

....truthman2012

chuose2:
So I beg if obeying the word of God has benefits, then tell me why does Adeboye make us disobey God?

Did God not say to call no man Father in Christ?

Matthew 23:9
And call no man your father upon the earth:
for one is your Father, which is in heaven.


Jesus gave us a spirit of Adoption to call God our Father and not a man.

Romans 8:15
For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear;
but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

We do have our natural fathers but in Jesus we have one father and that's God.

So why does Adeboye enjoy making people disobey God by making them call him daddy

Go to youtube and look for this video titled (below) ,
Pastor Enoch Adeboye's Lies Exposed as False Teacher. Part 1

This video (in blue) breaks it down better and you'll see that Adeboye makes us disobey God by calling him daddy.

oglalasioux:
Muhammad is Jesus's fellow confusionist.

oglalasioux:
What message does Jesus Christ have that Moses hadn't given? What message does Moses have that Abraham, Isaac and Jacob hadn't given?

Welcome to the rabbit hole. It's messengers all the way down.