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Christianity Etc › Re: Are We All Born As Atheists? by malvisguy212: 9:55am On Oct 18, 2016
SirShifty:
There is not a word of condemnation in the Bible against slavery, it is even openly endorsed and encouraged. The last thing on the mind of missionaries was spreading education and civilization they were here solely to convert people. I am not using the education brought to me by Christian missionaries, if i was i would be a creationist and believe in Adam or Eve or a young earth. The education and civilization i have access to is due to the latest advancements by scientists and innovators not missionaries, we would had access to them regardless of missionaries. They had no problem with the practice of killing twins for over a 100 years, one example of a good woman does not change that.
the slavery described in the Old Testament was quite different from the kind of slavery we think of today in which people are captured and sold as slaves. According to Old Testament law, anyone caught selling another person into slavery was to be executed:

He who kidnaps a man, whether he sells
him or he is found in his possession, shall
surely be put to death." ( Exodus 21:16)

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is
neither slave nor free man, there is neither
male nor female; for you are all one in Christ
Jesus. ( Galatians 3:28)
Islam › Re: Name Of Allah Appear On A Piece Of Meat by malvisguy212: 9:41pm On Oct 16, 2016
JSoE:
grin.
Jeebus appeared on my toilet paper this afternoon.As I used it to clean my soiled ass, the name of mohamMad scribbled in Arabic, appeared on it. I tossed it in the toilet,anyway.

While I was about to flush my sh-it oo,I saw the sky open as dog...oops god, the great misogynist,racist and murderer shapeshifted into a penguin and flew down(yes,a flying penguin) from the icey sky. How it passed through my roof is still a mystery.
With its fish of wrath pointed at my face, it threatened to send me to hellfire for not honouring the sign it gave me. Its voice sounded like that of a hermaphrodite.

I'm currently shivering.
I'm not still sure the god it was that made the threat since it didn't specify the sign it was yammering on about. I don't know if it is angry for jeebus or mohamMad or for me soiling the asswipe or even for releasing my holy sh-it and because of this, I've decided to worship all the 5200 gods on earth each day. I don't want to burn in eternal groundnut oil.
I might just be lucky to find out the specific sign and god that is sending me to hell. So help me dog..gob sorry god.
Bramen!

Please let me go and pray to Krishna. It is the next god on my prayer schedule.
You should do the same.
Are you an atheist ?
Christianity Etc › Re: God Is Love, The Innocent Wouldn't Suffer. by malvisguy212(op): 7:36am On Oct 16, 2016
malvisguy212:
bless you my brother, thank you.
Christianity Etc › Re: Does A Person Who Commit Suicide Go To Heaven? by malvisguy212: 11:58am On Oct 15, 2016
Not All killing is murder, but suicide is murder. the 6th commandment say "you shall do no murder". Suicide fell in the category of murder. If you commit suicide, you are going to hell.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Signs Of End Times. When Is The World Going To End? by malvisguy212: 11:44am On Oct 15, 2016
https://www.nairaland.com/1853536/end-days-end-harvest
the scripture make it clear that no one know the day or the hour of christ return.but the bible dos say that we can know the time and season surrounding his coming,you may be thinking the usual saying like... So because disease and immorality are running rampant and because there are wars and rumors of war and we have had some few earthquake that Jesus is coming soon ? Yeah we've heard all that before. But after studying the bible I discover something interesting about the end of days. Pleas read.

my theory about the end of days started when I read a verse in isaiah 46. It say that God declare the end from the beginning. A similar verse was in isaiah 48. This lead me to the creation story in the book of genesis. As I study the first chapter, I began to wonder, WHY IT TOOK GOD SIX DAYS TO CREATE THIS WORLD AND REST ON THE SEVENTH DAY,WHY WOULD HE TAKE SIX DAYS WHEN HE COULD HAVE CREATED THE WORLD IN ONE SECOND, IN THE BLINK OF AN EYE?I
started studying the word"day" and days" I
discover some interesting passages that related to this. Ma by God is indicating to us how much time man would have on earth. this is the point, the bible especially the old testament is full of foreshadowing. An event that actually happen in history, also picture somting coming in the future. An example is the sacrifice of abraham and isaac, that even actually happen,and it was also a picture of what God will do to his son Jesus on the cross as an offering for the sin of the world. Now why will God take SIX days to create the world? Is this a picture of somting we need to know? I think it is. In 2 peter 3:8, the context was referring to the second coming of Jesus christ,the bible say that a one day with they Lord is as a thousand years and a thousand
year is like a day. Psalm 90. A thousand year in
God sight is like yesterday.so could it be that the six days of creation were you indicate to us the time man will spend on this earth would be
about six thousand years?...the seventh day of
rest picturing the thousand years millennia
reign, when christ come back to set up is
kingdom, the time of righteousness and
peace.bible scholar have calculate from the first man adam to the first coming of christ to be 4000years,if that is the case then we are could have been living at the end of what the new testament called THE LAST DAYS. now this is the issue. God deal with time in the bible, when God measure time He dose so by seven.....
1.God created the world in seven days, with the seven day being for REST.
2according to the old testament law,the jew
were commanded to REST every SEVEN days.
3.the seventh week after the passover, they
celebrated a big feast of REST.
4.the seventh month of were perhaps the most
important when they celebrated three of there
biggest feast of REST.
5.every seventh year was the year of REST for
the land.
6.every 49years ,seven times seven, they
celebrated the year of jubilee, which is a year of REST for the land and liberty for the people. so it made perfect sense to me that God would set up a seven thousand year period for man to occupy the earth,with the last thousand year
being a time of REST when Jesus come back to
set up his earthly kingdom, as spoken in
revelation20.I was right when I say God deal
with time he dos so by seven. the second coming of christ is the most important day in God's calendar , he want us yo know the timing .

Hosea was a prophet in the old testament, in
verse 6 of that book , hosea talk about isreal,
God chosen nation, who was always rejecting
God.the nation was goin to be torn apart, but
verse two say" after two days will he revive us , the third day he will raise us up and the we shall live in his sight"what dos this mean? When Jesus come isreal reject him as there messiah , so God scatter the nation of isreal all over the world. For 1900 years there is no nation of israel but God say after two days[ or 2000yrs] I will revive thee, and you, isreal will live in my sight: the scatter isreal became a nation in the year 1948.this is important because God is reviving the nation of isreal and they are about to live in his sight when Jesus come back to set up his earthly kingdom , have you ever meet a cannoned ? How about the amorite? No because these are isreal enemies and God did not preserve them, the jew have been preserve because they are God chosen people and he must fulfilled and keep his promise he made to them but the jew are still rejecting christ, for how long?after two days [or 2000years] I will revive thee and the third day you shall live in my sight.

The second coming event are about to begin, I
see the same foreshadowing in exodus 19:11.
God told isreal to clean up and wait for two
days, the third day I'm comin down in the sight
of they nation. In john 11. Lazarus died a jew,
Jesus waited for two days before he raise him
from death, this is a picture of how God is about to turn his back from isreal for the next two thousand years [or two days] and start reach out for the rest of the world through the new testament church which he did. God dint just throw this stuff in the bible to wast space ,maby am right , maby God is tryin to tell us something in matthew17:1 say that Jesus tool peter, james and john up to the mountain, apart from the rest, did the thing we want to know happen up there? Yes.Jesus transfigured before them and the are giving a preview of his second coming glory, now the first word of the verse was "after six days" why did God throw this in? To was space? Or is God tryin to tell us something that we need to know? note time from adam to Jesus is 4,000years[4days] the time of the church period is two thousand years[2days] so could this mean after 6000yrs [6days] God will revive isreal and fulfils his promise he made to them? Hmmm am I reading to much . If am right, BROTHERS WE ARE LIVING IN THE END OF DAYS. REPENT. THANK YOU.
Christianity Etc › Re: See why athiesm is a device of the devil by malvisguy212: 7:37am On Oct 15, 2016
Atheists are in satanic deception.
Christianity Etc › Re: Islam Influence by malvisguy212: 7:33am On Oct 15, 2016
Sniper4real:
aiit, what does Islam do that Christian copied from them
you mean christian copied from islam ? Are you sure you are alright ? 600 years after, muhammed came with different message after jesus had DONE the work of our salvation, how can christian copied from islam ?
Crime › Re: Emir Of Katsina Marries 14-Year-Old Kidnapped Christian Girl by malvisguy212: 9:53am On Oct 14, 2016
ademola1333:
This hadeeth is better explained in same Sahih when the following part was said before the above. He - صلى الله عليه وسلم - said: "Indeed,I shall never make what is lawful unlawful and shall not make what is unlawful as lawful but by allah the daughter of Messenger of Allah shall not be with the daughter of Allah's enemy"This proves:1. He never obligated Ali bin abi Talib - May Allah be pleased with him - not to marry another one. That is why Ali honored his relationship with the Prophet by honoring his daughter2. The reason why he denied this act is not because pologymy but because this act hurt Fatima- May allah be plaesed with her - and hence that means to hurt the Prophet. So, since we are not allowed to hurt the Prophet this becomes a different case3. The Prophet acknowledged that this lawful however he disliked it at this particular case due what it caused him.4. The main reason of dispute is the fact that theother woman is the daughter of Allah's enemy.
pure lies, Yes he never say Ali should not marry other women, but their is a condition attach here, ali must divorce his daughter. If Ali is the enemy of Allah then why did muhammed allow him to marry his daughter in the first place ?
Crime › Re: Emir's Marriage To 14-Year-Old Girl Irreversible - Katsina Emirates Council by malvisguy212: 9:11am On Oct 14, 2016
FriendChoice:
Waiting for you to quote that Quran verse or forever take your lies somewhere.

My question is very straight forward. Quran verse I said not Hadith? Don't deviate.

Even in the Hadith He married her @9 not 6. He was engaged to her @6. And married her when she attains puberty @9.

Shameless liar.
is the hadith not a revelation ? I have argue with a lot of muslims and they all say the hadith was a revelation. Sahih bukhari is the most trusted hadith.

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number
64:
Narrated By ‘Aisha : That the Prophet
married her when she was six years old
and he consummated his marriage when
she was nine years old, and then she
remained with him for nine years (i.e., till
his death).
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Anyone Tell Us What Happened To The Three In Heaven? by malvisguy212: 8:06pm On Oct 12, 2016
Sahih Muslim, Volume 4, pg 1261:
Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger
(saw) as saying: The satan touches every
son of Adam on the day when his
mother gives birth to him with the
exception of Mary and her son.

Why should Jesus be the only man who is without sin among mankind? The Qur’an admits his sinlessness but gives us no reason for it. Something is not right somewhere, the quran don't want its reader to know the truth, how can jesus be call the Word of God, the spirit of God and He is sinless in the quran without given us reason ? We can only
comprehend this if we understand the full
significance of Jesus’ role in God’s purpose. We
will also appreciate why all these unique
features are vested in one man. Since the
Qur’an does not reveal what made Jesus so
unique, we need to go to the Bible for the
answer.


Both the Qur’an and the Bible tell us very clearly that Jesus had no human father. We must therefore ask ourselves this vital question, “Since Jesus is addressed as a ‘SON’ by the angel Gabriel both in the Qur’an (Surah 19:19) and in the Bible (Luke 1:35), WHOSE SON IS HE?”. Is it Mary’s? In Surah 19:19, the angel Gabriel said to Mary: “I am only a messenger of thy Lord, to announce to thee the" GIFT OF A HOLY SON" Here, Gabriel refers to a son who was to be given as a “gift” by God to Mary. Since the
Qur’an makes it very clear that the son is a gift
from God, it shows that Mary was only the
recipient of that gift. She is not the source of that
gift but God. The gift belongs to God. The gift
was a son. Therefore, the son belongs to
God which means the son was His or His son.
In other words, God’s son. This testifies to the
Gospel truth that Jesus is the Son of God.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Anyone Tell Us What Happened To The Three In Heaven? by malvisguy212: 7:42pm On Oct 12, 2016
For the Qur’an to identify Jesus as a Spirit from God who was committed to Mary indicates that he was with God even before he was given to her. It is the closest the Qur’an comes to admitting the pre-existence of Jesus before his conception on earth. The lack of any explanation of its significance, however, suggests that Muhammad heard and adopted Christian teachings and titles applying to Jesus without understanding them or seeing their ominous implications that Jesus was more than a prophet. Jesus was a Spirit before he came to earth as a human. The Bible, in no uncertain term, testifies to this divine truth:
John 16:28: “I came out from the Father and have come into the world. Further, I am leaving the world and am going my way to the Father.”
If Jesus was spoken in Qur’an as “The Word of God” and as “A Spirit from God” then these two statements would make Jesus more than a prophet because no man can be called by such titles. Such titles would be appropriate only for the one who is the unique Son of God.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Anyone Tell Us What Happened To The Three In Heaven? by malvisguy212: 7:38pm On Oct 12, 2016
WORDWORLD:
The message of ALLAH in the GLORIOUS QURAN this:

"O People of the Book! Commit no excess in your religion: NOR SAY OF GOD AUGHT BUT THE TRUTH. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) A PROPHET OF GOD, and HIS WORD, which he bestowed on Mary, and a SPIRIT proceeding from HIM: so believe in GOD and HIS prophets. Say not "TRINITY": desist: it will be better for you: for GOD IS ONE GOD: GLORY TO HIM: (far Exalted is He) above having a son. TO HIM BELONGS ALL THINGS IN THE HEAVENS AND ON EARTH. AND ENOUGH IS GOD AS A DISPOSER OF AFFAIRS" Quran 4: 171
how blind you are, did the quran just call jesus spirit from God ? Please, provide a single verse in the quran were such title is given to any prophet.

The words used in Surah 4:171 are ruhun-
minhu, “a Spirit from him.” Thus, the Qur’an
clearly describes the human, Jesus, as a Spirit
from God himself. With Jesus being the only
exception, no humans are ever depicted as
such. However, no attempt is made to explain
this absolutely unique statement of belief in the Qur’an. Yet, the Qur’an strongly supports the Christian belief that Jesus was a pre-existing Spirit creature who took on a human form. Surah 4:171 presupposes that Jesus existed before he was conceived by a virgin-woman.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Anyone Tell Us What Happened To The Three In Heaven? by malvisguy212: 7:29pm On Oct 12, 2016
WORDWORLD:
The message of ALLAH in the GLORIOUS QURAN this:

"O People of the Book! Commit no excess in your religion: NOR SAY OF GOD AUGHT BUT THE TRUTH. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) A PROPHET OF GOD, and HIS WORD, which he bestowed on Mary, and a SPIRIT proceeding from HIM: so believe in GOD and HIS prophets.
the quranic verse you quote call jesus HIS WORD, ONLY jesus was address like this, NONE other prophet is address like this, why ?

Centuries before the Qur’an came into
existence, this same title was given to Jesus in
the Bible:
Revelation 19:13: “…the name by which he
is called is the WORD OF GOD"

But why is Jesus called the “Word of God”? In
view of the fact that the Qur’an attributes this
title to Jesus without explanation, it is in the
Bible that we find the ultimate meaning of this
term. He is designated as such not only during
his life here on earth but also during his pre-
human spirit existence in heaven. Furthermore, the Bible book of Revelation reveals that even after his heavenly resurrection, Jesus is still known as the “Word of God.” Biblical titles often describe the function served or the duty performed by the bearer. For instance, in Exodus 4:16, it is stated that God made Aaron the “mouth” or the “spokesman” of Moses, saying:

“He must speak for you to the people; and it
must occur that he will serve as a mouth to
you, and you will serve as God to him.”

In a similar way Jesus served as the Mouth, or
Spokesman, for his Father, the great King of
Eternity. He was God’s Word of communication
for conveying information and instructions to
the worshippers of God here on earth. Prior to
Jesus’ coming to earth, on many of the occasions when God communicated with
humans he used Jesus as his angelic
mouthpiece. Showing that Jesus continues to
serve as his Father’s Spokesman, or Word, Jesus told his listeners:

John 12:49-50: “I have not spoken out of
my own impulse, but the Father himself
who sent me has given me a commandment
as to what to tell and what to
speak….Therefore the things I speak, just as
the Father has told me them, so I speak
them.”
Islam › Re: Muslims Prayer That Is Never Answered by malvisguy212: 7:51am On Oct 12, 2016
k4kenny:
OP, kindly consider these lines in the Lord's Prayer:

'Give us this day'- Are you trying to say God hasn't given christian the 'day' ever since they've been reciting that prayer daily? If it has been answered surely they won't need not to include it in their daily prayers.

''And deliver us from evil- Surely a prayer recited by million of christians daily ought to have waned off every form of evil from the earth. Does it mean it has not been answered?

That line in the Opening verse of the Quran simply means asking Allah (swt) not to deviate us from His Path, not to follow the path of the disbelivers. It's a constant struggle to remain on the path of Islam with the satan and his agents constantly tempting Mankind to deviate. Do you know that satan promised Allaah when he sent off heaven that he will do everything to ensure man will worship him (satan) rataher than Allah? We need to constantly ask the Almighty to keep us on the right path. I hope you understand now.

Also I've gone through your other threads. Your skewed translations of Quran and fake Hadiths are nothing short of laughable.

Allahu alam.
The quran say all this YET Allah did not answer muhammed prayer when he ate the poison ?
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Change? by malvisguy212: 7:39am On Oct 12, 2016
rexben:
Lol
Pls, must you always respond. Pls, understand my thread before you respond.
My threads are not borne out of jealousy. They are borne out of obeying Jesus and witnessing Jesus.
Don't get it twisted. I'm not witnessing about the Jesus Christians preach ooo.
Which jesus are you witnessing to ? Were is the message of this jesus ?
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Change? by malvisguy212: 7:31am On Oct 12, 2016
rexben:
The God of the old testament asked His people to utterly destroy their enemies without sparing any, while on the contrary the God of the new testament asked His children to love their enemies.
God is not a man, that he should lie, nor a human being, that he should change his mind. Has he said, and will he not do it? Or has he spoken, and will he not make it happen?
Num 23:19
But he is unchangeable, and who can change him? Whatever he has desired, he does.
Job 23:13
If God does not change, it means God of the old testament is different from the new testament. So, which one is the supreme God? Is it the old testament's God or the new testament's God?
Or if God does not change, it means God was portrayed wrongly either in the old testament or new testament. So, where was portrayed wrongly, is it in the old or new testament?
that is because its a new covenant,God did not send his son to condemn the world, but to RECONCILE the world to himself. In the old testament, we see how sins is terrible and we see the penalty of breaking God law is, God will not ignore sin.

The first convent was written in MOUNT SINAI and it is the Law, when you live by the law, sin flow easily, and when sin flow, PUNISHMENT came.

The second convent was made in Jeremiah 31:31-34 and the bible made it CRYTAL clear, it will be DIfFERENT from the one made with your father:

Jeremiah 31:31-34 - "Behold, the days come,
saith Jehovah, that I will make a new covenant
with the house of Israel, and with the house of
Judah: NOT ACCORDING TO THE COVENAT THAT I MADE WITH THEIR FATHER in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was a husband unto them, saith Jehovah.

This is self explanatory, you don't expect the old and new covenant to be the same, the new convent was fulfilled in christ jesus, and jesus did not come to judge the world:

John 3:17
17 For God did NOT send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be SAVED through him.

In fact, verse 17 came right after john 3:16 ( for God so love the world). Then why are you accusing God of not showing equal love ? So I think there is an intention that the Old
Testament look bleak, sin look horrible, God
look just, and that there be much less mercy,
proportionate to what you see in the three
years of the ministry of Jesus. And that's
intentional. This is what God's heart is to the
world right now.

All this, is an effort to prove God does not exist ?
Crime › Re: Emir Of Katsina Marries 14-Year-Old Kidnapped Christian Girl by malvisguy212: 11:00pm On Oct 11, 2016
A religion that encourage immorality come from satan.

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62,
Number 157:
Narrated Al-Miswar b. Makhrama: I heard Allah’s Apostle who was on the pulpit, saying, “Banu Hisham bin Al- Mughira have requested me to allow them to marry their daughter to Ali bin Abu Talib, BUT I DON'T GIVE PERMISSION,AND WILL NOT GIVE PERMISSION UNLESS ‘Ali bin Abi Talib DIVORCE MY DAUGHTER IN ODER TO MARRY THEIR DAUGHTER, BECAUSE FATIMA IS PART OF MY BODY, and I hate what she hates to see, and what hurts her, hurts me.”

is this not HYPOCRISY ? While Muhammad supported polygamy as taught in the Qur’an, he did not want the husband of his daughter to practice polygamy while he is married to her.
Why the double standard?
Christianity Etc › Re: 4evergod3, Anas09 Everyother Christian!!! Its 4 U 2 Ponder If U Got D Brain. by malvisguy212: 8:08pm On Oct 11, 2016
WORDWORLD:
SEE WHO IS TALKING SHALL WE GO THROUGH YOUR NUMEROUS POST ON NAIRALAND AND SEE WHAT YOU COME HERE TO DO? WHY ARE YOU CHRISTIANS SO INSENSITIVE TO YOUR DISHONOR. WHYhuh ARE YOU GUYS THIS BRAIN DEADhuh
The thread 4evergod open must have cause you sleepless night.
Christianity Etc › Re: 4evergod3, Anas09 Everyother Christian!!! Its 4 U 2 Ponder If U Got D Brain. by malvisguy212: 7:50pm On Oct 11, 2016
Scholar8200:
Op, blaspheming wont change anything; infact, its just the opinion of one out of over 6 billion. Dont let NL give you a false feeling of being a leader of thought. In any case, one thing that occurred to me, (having scanned through your vitriolic post) is what I have always said namely:

God in the Bible is not the same as your Allah;
Jesus Whom the Bible proclaims is not the same as the other Jesus that is in the Quran;
All the prophets you find in the Bible are NOT the same as the ones you have in your Quran.
( For example, David fell into adultery and was judged for it, he also wrote psalms expressing his penitence but the one in the Quran was said to be sinless, if you claim that the Injil was corrupted, what is to be said about historical records of David's sin and his repentance?Were those also added and for what reason? Then Solomon, generations after and Nehemiah still referred to Solomon's sin in Nehemiah 13:26,27 yet the Quran says he was sinless! Was Nehemiah a Nairalander trying to 'twist' history then?).

Calling The Lord Jesus those names, you are not the first. The pharisees did exactly the same using similar words so at least you have a company! smiley

In conclusion, when life is o'er, we shall understand it better!
Nice one bro, If you ask the op " does muslim and christian worship the same God ? " He will never give you a direct answer, in fact some muslims will say yes. But, read the op and see the type of foul language he use, bottom line!! Muslims and christians don't worship the same God, it is CRYSTAL clear from the op.
Christianity Etc › Re: Islamic Paradise Of Sex, Sin And Sensuality by malvisguy212(op): 6:47pm On Oct 11, 2016
malvisguy212:
To entice his followers to fight in suicidal raids
and wars, Muhammad created an image of
Islamic paradise that made it difficult for his followers to resist, The promise of everlasting sex with virgins. Muhammad knew for sure that sex would sell very well among his warriors.

Surah 4:24:“Also forbidden for you are
married women, EXCEPT those who have
fallen in your hands as PRISONERS OF WAR .”

Still the risk of death discourage some Muslims
from participating in Allah’s wars. Hence,
Muhammad came up with an ingenious solution to the problem. Thus, Muhammad
designed an evil plan. He excited his believers
with these promises:

Surah 44:54: “Thus (shall it be), and We will
wed them with Houris, pure, beautiful ones"

The above quranic verse are in harmony with this hadith:

Sunan al-Tirmidhi, Hadith Number 3834:
Narrated by Al-Miqdam ibn Ma’dikarib:
Allah’s Messenger (peace be upon him)
said, “THE MARTYR RECEIVES SIX GOOD THINGS: he is forgiven at the first
shedding of his blood; he is shown his abode
in Paradise; he is preserved from the
punishment in the grave; he is kept safe
from the greatest terror; he has placed on
his head the crown of honor, a ruby of
which is better than the world and what it
contains; he is married to SEVENTY-TWO
WIVES OF THE MAIDENS WITH LARGE DARK EYES of ; and is made intercessor for seventy
of his relatives.”

Muhammad was able to preach his message
effectively using sex as a commodity in
exchange for his men’s support to fight his
battles, is a win win situation in fighting for Allah cause. Should a muslim fight, he will get his shear among the prisoners of war. Should the muslim got martyr in allah cause, he will be awarded with even beautiful virgin, it is not uncommon to hear Muslims say in boast to the infidels, “We love death more than you love life.” A religion that encourages death can only come from the one who brought death to the human race. The Bible describes death as an enemy. ( 1 Corinthians 15:26).

1 corinthians 15:25
The last enemy to be destroyed is death.

Sensuality in the Koran inspires young Muslim
men to die for Allah’s cause. A Holy God will never resort to sexual incentive as a means to secure believers. This is absolutely improper and blasphemous to the concept of Divine Holiness. However, in the Koran we find Allah promising Muslim men with pleasures of the flesh, both in this life and in the life to come. This makes Islam a very carnal religion.
Christianity Etc › Re: Conclusive Evidence In The Quran That Proof Jesus Is The Son Of God. by malvisguy212(op): 6:42pm On Oct 11, 2016
malvisguy212:
Islam, in no uncertain terms, denies the
Sonship of Jesus Christ. However, the
Qur’an provides numerous internal
evidences that testify to the Biblical truth that Jesus is indeed the Son of God. The testimonies regarding Jesus in the Qur’an itself clearly show that he is more than a prophet.

One of the most important points of
agreement between Islam and Christianity concerns the conception of
Jesus is the virgin birth.but the quran does not clearly state the reason of the virgin birth.

The Qur’an teaches that the virgin-birth
of Jesus was simply a manifestation of
God’s power>>>> Surah 3:47: “She said: My Lord! How can I have a child when no mortal hath touched me? He said: So it will be. Allah createth what HE WIlL. If
he decreeth a thing, He saith unto it
only: BE! And it is.” (Pickthall)

The truth of the matter is that the virgin- birth of Jesus Christ was not a random manifestation of God’s creative power as implied in the Qur’an. While the fact that it was brought about by the power of God is without any doubt, however, this in itself does not explain its meaning or purpose. What necessity was there to give a new demonstration of this power? The Qur’an itself teaches that the mere fact that God could create men out of nothing is surely proof that God can raise them from the dead;

Surah 22:5: “O mankind! If ye have a
doubt about the Resurrection,
consider that We created you out of
dust…” (Yusuf Ali)

As such, Allah is saying that no proof of
the ultimate resurrection is needed for
the unbelievers since his initial act of
creation is sufficient for man to perceive
his creative powers. In other words, there no need for Allah to show his creative work as long as he can create man.

Why was the virgin-birth of Jesus a
necessity? Surely, God would not do such an unusual act without reason if it were unnecessary. He would cause the virgin- birth to take place only if it was utterly necessary to do so. Something must have required that Jesus be born in this way.The virgin-birth is an article of faith, which is repeatedly upheld in the Qur’an, and yet we find that there is no explanation for the miraculous birth. In the Qur’an we are assured that, it took place, but we are not told why. However, the answer is made clear in the Bible. It tells us that unlike all other prophets, Jesus is the unique Son of God. Thus, it is absolutely necessary that he be born of a virgin-woman if he comes in the likeness of men.

This is indeed what the angel told Mary
when he came to explain the miraculous conception:

Luke 1:32: “He will be great and will
be called the Son of the Most High.”

Luke 1:35: “Therefore the child to be
born will be called holy, the SON OF
GOD.”

In the Gospel, the virgin-birth is also
shown as a vital link in the out-working of God’s purpose for the salvation of
mankind. It was the very heart of God’s
divine purpose to redeem fallen
mankind who by their sinful nature was
subjected to futility. (See Romans 8:20).
Therefore, mankind’s salvation – your
salvation – is essentially linked to the
gaining of an accurate knowledge of the
divine purpose behind the miraculous
birth of Jesus Christ. Let us now look at
other evidences in the Qur’an that points to the Sonship of God
Islam › Re: Was Muhammad Certain Of His Salvation? by malvisguy212(op): 6:41pm On Oct 11, 2016
malvisguy212:
No reply from our muslims friends ? If the head is not certain if God would grant him eternal rest, what will become of his followers ?
Christianity Etc › Re: Abrogated Verses In The Quran. Question For Muslims. by malvisguy212(op): 6:40pm On Oct 11, 2016
malvisguy212:
Surah 16:101: “And when We put a revelation in place of (another) revelation, – and Allah knoweth best what He revealeth – they say: Lo! thou art but INVENTING Most of them know not.” (Pickthall)

This Qur’anic verse shows that a number of
people living during the time of Muhammad
were troubled at this concept of abrogation. In
response to the claim that new revelations
superseded the older ones, they said to
Muhammad, “Thou art but inventing most of them "And they are absolutely right.

Surah 13:39: “Allah makes to pass away
and establishes what He pleases, and
with Him is the basis of the Book.” (Shakir)

If Allah in the Qur’an manifests himself as the
arbitrary god who acts as he pleases without
even honoring his own sayings, then he is acting in a way that is totally foreign to the truths taught in the Holy Bible. God does not change and neither does his teachings. Every instance of abrogation is a problem for the doctrine of an unchanging God.

Malachi 3:6
“For I am the Lord, I do not change..."
Christianity Etc › Re: Does Concept Of Abrogation Invalidate Quran As The Word Of God? by malvisguy212: 9:23am On Oct 11, 2016
Why is the abrogated verses still exist in the quran ? Surah 2:106 say :

“None of Our revelations do We abrogate
or cause to be forgotten, but We
substitute something BETTER OR SIMILAR:
Knowest thou not that God Hath power over
all things?” (Yusuf Ali)

Why replace one verse with another if they are
similar. If the Quran is the Word of God, should it not be perfect from the start? How can one perfect verse be BETTER than another perfect verse?
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Is Alive With God (koran 3,55;4,158,159) by malvisguy212: 12:03am On Oct 11, 2016
JSoE:
grin But the koran is full of lies and deceit, huh? And islam is a false religion,right?
Alright.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is There A Mosque In Jerusalem And There Is No Church In Mecca? by malvisguy212: 11:42pm On Oct 10, 2016
Taio23:
Why is there a mosque in Jerusalem and there is no church in Mecca?
because the devil is afraid, just one crusade, song worship and prayer, pulling down of strong hold, many muslims will convert.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Is Alive With God (koran 3,55;4,158,159) by malvisguy212: 11:32pm On Oct 10, 2016
JSoE:
Wait wait wait wait...
The koran proves that jesus is in heaven? But I thought christains believe that islam is a false religion and that the koran is filled with false teachings. What happened to mohammed being a liar, rapist and a murderer? Are his teachings now true and revealing jesus?
Dafuq's going on?
it prove that the Author of the quran don't know what he was doing, how can the quran condemn allah greatest prophet in hell but reveal jesus is in heaven ? Don't you think something is not right ? The quran give more Authority to jesus than muhammed, what manner of man is jesus that the quran will address him as sinless ? What is the purpose of jesus being conceive through a virgin ? God will not just do this thing for manifestation sake, their is something GREAT the father accomplish in jesus that the quran did not talk about, something is not right. The bible say God exist and jesus has made Him known to us, if you don't know the father of jesus, you don't know the true God.
Islam › Re: An Honest Survey For Muslims. Take Your Time To Think And Then Respond. by malvisguy212: 9:10pm On Oct 09, 2016
Ibn `Umar said: “Allah’s Messenger (peace
and blessings be upon him) faced the Black
Stone, touched it, and then placed his
lips on it and wept for a long time.”
Likewise, `Umar also wept for a long
time. The Prophet (peace and blessings be
upon him) said: ‘O `Umar, this is the place
where one should shed tears.”’ (Reported
by Al-Hakim who considers it a sound
Hadith with a sound chain of authorities)
Source: IslamOnline.

Muhammad touched and kissed the Black
Stone. He “placed his lips on it and wept for
a long time.” If this is not idolatry, then what is
it? In view of his pagan past, Muhammad
needed something tangible that connects him to Allah. Thus, he submitted to idolatry. That is why he also stated that the Black Stone “is the
place where one should shed tears.” And
Umar gave in to blind allegiance.What Muslims failed to take into consideration is that kissing and caressing stone objects were an integral part of the worship that the Arab pagans rendered to their idols.
Islam › Re: An Honest Survey For Muslims. Take Your Time To Think And Then Respond. by malvisguy212: 9:05pm On Oct 09, 2016
@ FriendChoice you say muhammed never participate in pagan worship ? You lied, muhammed even worship allah the way the arab pagan worship their gods:

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 60, Number
23:
Narrated By ‘Asim bin Sulaiman: I asked
Anas bin Malik about Safa and Marwa (i.e.
two mountains at Mecca). Anas replied, “We
used to consider (i.e. going around)
them a custom of the PRE-ISLAMIC PERIOD OF IGNORANCE, so when Islam came, we
gave up going around them. Then Allah
REVEALED ‘Verily, Safa and Marwa (i.e.
two mountains at Mecca) ARE AMONG THE SYMBOL OF Allah. SO IT IS NOT HARMFULL TO
those who perform the Hajj of the House
(of Allah) or perform the Umra to ambulate
(Tawaf) between them.’” (Surah 2:158) [End
of Quote]

Surah 2:158: “Lo! (the mountains) As-
Safa and Al-Marwah are among the
indications of Allah. It is therefore no sin
for him who is on pilgrimage to the House
(of Allah) or visiteth it, to go around them
( as the pagan custom is).” (Pickthall)

How can the very same two mountains that
were sacred to the pagans become the
“SYMBOL OF Allah” all of a sudden? Moreover,
how is it that the very same pagan ritual of
running between the two hills is also retained in Islam? In addition, why was the Arab pagan
ritual of going around the Ka’ba seven times,
also retained in Islam?

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 26, Number
675:
Narrated by Zaid bin Aslam: From his father
who said: “Umar bin Al-Khattab addressed
the Corner (Black Stone) saying, ‘By Allah! I
know that you are a STONE and can
neither benefit nor harm. HAD I NOT SEEN THE PROPHET TOUCHING ( AND KISSING) you,
I would never have touched (and kissed)
you.’ Then he kissed it.”

This is very revealing from one who was a pagan before he embrace islam, umar bin Al-Khattab knows kissing the stone is a way pagan worship their gods
. The reason behind Umar’s reluctance in kissing the Black Stone is that the pagan Arabs also performed this same ritual. However, Umar venerated his Prophet and this eventually led him to venerate the pagan idol. Ultimately, he ended up venerating the Black Stone, Muhammad and Allah.
Christianity Etc › Re: Plz, Christians. Help Me Analyse This Situation by malvisguy212: 11:30am On Oct 09, 2016
MrRichmond:
The gun is something dangerous and was kept in the center of the house when the logical thing was to keep it far away from the kids. t.
the tree of the knowledge of good and Evil, did you know were God planted the Tree ? At the middle of a big river. Yet man disobey God command, whose fault is it ?
Christianity Etc › Re: Plz, Christians. Help Me Analyse This Situation by malvisguy212: 10:30am On Oct 09, 2016
@op. Why did God create man knowing fully well that man will sin ? If God create you and command you to love one another, but if you fail, is it God fault ? Your dad bought a gun for protection, and warn you not to touch it, if you disobey his warning, is it his fault ? The reason you ask this question is because you don't know the purpose of God creating you. Why are we here? God didn't have to have us,
He WANTED us. God created man with the intent of having something to share His love with and to be loved by. You might say, well, that failed. True, but it was not God's fault. God gave man free-will. He could have very easily created some human robots that loved Him and did what He said no matter what. That would be great, but think of this. If you love someone, and they love you because they think they HAVE to, or because they think it is the right thing to do, that is a far different love from someone that WANTS to love you. That is why God did it. He wanted that kind of love. When we choose to love and choose to obey, that is greater and more far reaching than anything we could ever imagine.

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