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urahara:
He disobeyed because he was tricked. And so a God who is all loving sent him a lion that rips him to shreds. lovely. To show him how merciful he is.

urahara:
Free will ekwa

Rom 9:18 So then he has mercy on whomever he wills,
and he hardens whomever he wills.


Psa 139:16 You saw me before I was born. Every day of
my life was recorded in your book. Every moment was laid
out before a single day had passed .


Rom 9:10 And not only so, but also when Rebekah had
conceived children by one man, our forefather Isaac,
Rom 9:11 though they were not yet born and had done
nothing either good or bad--in order that God's purpose of
election might continue, not because of works but
because of him who calls --
Rom 9:12 she was told, "The older will serve the younger."
Rom 9:13 As it is written, "Jacob I loved, but Esau I
hated."
Rom 9:14 What shall we say then? Is there injustice on
God's part? By no means!
Rom 9:15 For he says to Moses, "I will have mercy on
whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom
I have compassion."
Rom 9:16 So then it depends not on human will or
exertion, but on God, who has mercy .
Rom 9:17 For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, "For this very
purpose I have raised you up, that I might show my power
in you, and that my name might be proclaimed in all the
earth."
Rom 9:18 So then he has mercy on whomever he wills,
and he hardens whomever he wills. (i wonder why some
fools here mock Allah because of this.)
Rom 9:19 You will say to me then, "Why does he still find
fault? For who can resist his will?"
Rom 9:20 But who are you, O man, to answer back to
God? Will what is molded say to its molder, "Why have
you made me like this?"
Rom 9:21 Has the potter no right over the clay, to make
out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and
another for dishonorable use?
Rom 9:22 What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to
make known his power, has endured with much patience
vessels of wrath prepared for destruction,
Rom 9:23 in order to make known the riches of his glory
for vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand
for glory



A woman who is raped is raped against her free will


Rom 8:29 For those whom he foreknew he also
predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son , in
order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers.
Rom 8:30 And those whom he predestined he also called,
and those whom he called he also justified, and those
whom he justified he also glorified.

How can there be free will when he has predestined everything.

Joh 6:65 And he said, "This is why I told you that no one
can come to me unless it is granted him by the Father ."

Rom 9:18 So then he has mercy on whomever he wills,
and he hardens whomever he wills.

urahara:
Isiah 45 vs 7
"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

urahara:
On his "omnibenevolence¥

He creates hell for the disbelievers.
Isaiah 45 vs 7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and
create evil: I the LORD do all these things


He says it himself that he creates evil.


– Touching the Ark of the Covenant (1 Chronicles 13:9-10). This is the other example that critics use
to slam the Biblical God. The Israelites, led by King David, are transporting the Ark of the Covenant. The
oxen stumble, and Uzzah tries to steady the Ark. For his trouble, God kills him. Now, I’ve heard many
reasons why this happened. Maybe God was using Uzzah as an example that the Ark was not just an
inert piece of metal like you’d find in the other regional religions. Or maybe Uzzah died of a heart attack
from the shock that he’d laid his hand on the Ark of the Covenant. Anyway, King David gave Uzzah his
due by naming the place after him (“Perez Uzzah”). I know it means “outbreak against Uzzah,” but if you
had to die in the service of the Lord for simply touching something, you gotta take anything you can get,
y’know?

NU 25:9 24,000 people die in a plague from
the Lord.
NU 31:9 The Israelites capture Midianite
women and children.
NU 31:17-18 Moses, following the Lord's
command, orders the Israelites to kill all
the Midianite male children and "... every
woman who has known man ...." (Note:
How would it be determined which women
had known men? One can only speculate.)

DT 7:2 The Lord commands the Israelites
to "utterly destroy" and show "no mercy" to
those whom he gives them for defeat.

EZ 21:3-4 The Lord says that he will cut off
both the righteous and the wicked that his
sword shall go against all flesh.


1KI 13:15-24 A man is killed by a lion for
eating bread and drinking water in a place
where the Lord had previously told him not
to. This is in spite of the fact that the man
had subsequently been lied to by a prophet
who told the man that an angel of the Lord
said that it would be alright to eat and drink
there.

urahara:
Goahead listen to what I have to say. Saying God doesn't exist because of the problem of evil is an argument from lack of imagination. The problem of evil just proves that an omnipotent and omnibenevolent God doesn't exist. Let me ask you something do you really think God would send someone to hell for not believing in his incoherent self contradicting book called the Bible. And ask yourself why you don't believe in the other tens of thousands of gods. If I tell you I am God won't you demand for an exceptional evidence. Are u merely a believer because that is how your parents brought you up

OLAJADON:
what are you saying... what accusation is made by mohammed and jesus will also bear witness against you like you said
is your religion even in your holy book

OLAJADON:
WHY IS IT THAT YOU CHRISTIANS ARE FOND OF FABRICATING POINTS
who told you muslims build a mosque on mohammed tomb mention the verse in the Quran or the hadeeth that said it
THERE ARE SEVERAL POINT IN THE QURAN THAT PROVE ISLAM AS ONE AND TRUE RELIGION, IS YOUR CHRISTIANITY IN THE BIBLE?
DONT WORRY I PROMISE TO BEAR WITNESS AGAINST YOU ON THE LAST DAY(QIYAMAT)... moreover the only HOLY QURAN is protected by GOD himself unlike like a book that have various version claiming to be a religious book
MASHA ALLAH

golpen:
When you commit an atrocity and you want your wife to witness to your innocence. Who doesn't know that even a mad man will clear a bush towards himself. You don't try to use the Bible as your point when presenting a case of your defense. We don't believe a chunk of it.

God prevented xtians from being enticed to performing pilgrimage, then what do they go to do in Jerusalem? You and your priests bow to the picture and cross, what kind of worship is that called?

Visiting the grave of the prophet is not mandatory and no act of worship is performed in the process. It is as a lesson to instill the fact that he was a prophet and still died. To teach us the inevitability of death. And we also do so because he recommended it for us and we may be rewarded by heeding to the recommendations of the Holy prophet.

Goahead:
I am totally remorseful for pasting these trash here in the first place, probably due to my less busy day.
Ishilove, Seun pls take this thread down.


A big thanks to all the Godly folks here.... I repent of my sins.

donnffd:
Where did your bible come from?

malvisguy212:
Romans 1:28-29
28 And since they did not see fit to
acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. 29 They were filled with all
manner of unrighteousness, evil,
covetousness, malice. They are full of
envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips,
"

Goahead:
N'lders, pls I need your candid opinions regarding this issue at hand....

I came across these on social media, though I'm a Christian, I believe God exists but my believe is some how deteriorating.....

"The primitive concept that makes you believe that an invincible magical man in the sky who watches over you is beyond stupidity."

ayopo10:
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When tempted, no one should say, "God
is tempting me." For God cannot be
tempted by evil, nor does he tempt
anyone; James1:13.

Pls God does not tempt you

malvisguy212:
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 8, Number 427: Narrated ‘Aisha and ‘Abdullah bin ‘Abbas: When the last moment of the life of Allah’s Apostle came he started putting his ‘Khamisa’ on his face and when he felt hot and short of breath he took it off his face and said , “May Allah CURSE the Jews and Christians for THEY BUILT THE PLACES OF WORSHIP AT THE GRAVES OF THEIR PROPHET .” even in his dying breath, uttered curses. Please recall Muhammad’s reason for cursing the Jews and the Christians. He said, “FOR THEY BUILT THE PLACES OF WORSHIP AT THE GRAVES OF THEIR PROPHET .” We will now address this accusation of Muhammad. We will look at the facts recorded in the Bible. Moses and Jesus ,they are very important to the Jews, Moses to Judaism and Jesus to Christianity. As stated in Deuteronomy 34:5-6, God himself buried Moses to an undisclosed place and to Jesus,God removed His body. committing. Meaning it prevented both christians and Jews from being enticed to make pilgrimages or pay homage to such sites. It protected them from creature- worship. In contrast, what did the Muslims do with Muhammad’s tomb after his death? Muslims built a mosque on his tomb. His grave became a place for Muslim pilgrims to visit in Medina annually. The Prophet’s tomb at Medina is, after Mecca, the site most venerated by Muslims. It is visited with reverence in the hearts of the faithful. Ironically, these Muslims fell into the very class of people, upon whom Muhammad beseeched Allah’s curse. Unlike Jehovah, Allah did not have the wisdom or the insight to prevent the causes that could lead to creature- worship among his worshippers. The 12th century work by Qadi Iyad is highly accepted throughout the Muslim world. Al-Qadi Iyadibn Musa al-Yahsubi (1083 C.E.-1149 C.E.) wrote in his book Al-Shifa’: “Visiting his grave is part of the Sunna and is both excellent and desirable. Ibn `Umar said that the Prophet said, ‘My shafa’at (intercession on the Day of Qiyamah) is Waajib (incumbent upon me to intercede) FOR THE ONE WHO VISIT MY GRAVE.’”

dolphinheart:
Weave been here before, and as expected you wunt comment on glaring scriptural verses shown to you.
You try to jump to another topic without giving an explanation when confronted with scriptural facts.
You have just refused to reply on trinity and jump on holy spirit as person theory.

You refuse to answer question on baptism and jump to born again.

By the way, who gave out the holy spirit, jesus, the father or the spirit itself.?

Annunaki:
Allah did not have a choice but to grant mohamed's lustful desires na! if not for mohamed, allah would have been forgotten along with it's other 360 pagan idols in the kabbah. Mohamed made allah what it is today

plappville:
Since they can't answer. Lemme help them. Its Because allah never existed as a living God but an idol. He never spoke to his prophet never. An idol cannot talk. Muhammad copied biblical prophesy style and make it look like he had revelation. Many prophets before and after Muhammad did claimed to have come after Jesus. Muhammad is not the only one. Joseph Smith is one example.

Nubian113:
Sorry it's all too confusing and MANmade.

Nubian113:
Please stay on topic. I'm Muslim if you ain't noticed.. Cheers

Nubian113:
Excuse my ignorance here but won't these the people who killed Jesus? The Romans I mean

Nubian113:
Excuse my ignorance here but won't these the people who killed Jesus? The Romans I mean

leksbore:
N before you post that means you too must have agreed to the terms written before you post and what is in your signature ,u think its a mere word but its spiritually strong and affects life,,,I suggest you stay in your lane and show Christ like attitude.

leksbore:
Sir u r a Christian but your signature says something else,well not my business, we are all left to our own points of decision....

I too am a Christian but don't just still understand some things about Christianity but I believe soon all will be made clear n I am not with the idea of Christians criticizing another mans religion.

dolphinheart:
Yep , jesus was concieved



The statement "God the son" is not in the scriptures and neither does it have scriptural surpport.

Ur statement above also does not prove jesus was fully God while on earth.
You say "jesus is God" but the bible has giving us numerous instances where God is talking to jesus and giving jesus instructions. Hope you are not trying to say God is talking to himself! As we have read about jesus being in the presence of God also.


Again the statement "God the son" cannot be found in these verse.


The statement " the word is God the son " does not have scriptural backing , neither can that statement be found anywhere in the scriptures.

Pls can you explain how the word was begotten from the father?


Yet jesus says no one knows certain things except God.
Now is your spirit you? or that it knows your thoughts.
Likewise the scriptures did not say the spirit is God but it knows Gods thoughts.



Is this how you personaly came about the word " God the holy spirit" ?

Why did peter tell ananias that he had lied against God? Because it was God who gave out the holy spirit to them.

Let's examine the scriptures
1 cor 11:3
But I want you to know that the head of every man is the Christ; in turn, the head of a woman is the man; in turn, the head of the Christ is God.

Col 1:18
and he is the head of the body, the congregation. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that he might become the one who is first in all things;

And what did the head of the church do with what was giving from his own head to the congregation?
John 14:26
But the helper, the holy spirit, which the Father will send in my name, that one will teach
you all things and bring back to your minds all the things I told you.

Acts 2:33
Therefore, because he was exalted to the right hand of God and received the promised holy spirit from the Father, he has poured out what you see and hear.

You can see that the holy spirit came from the father, to act as as guide to the congregation.
Ananias lied not only against the holy spirit who guides the congregation, but lied against the father who is the overall head.
And who is the father?

1 cor 8:6
yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.

Peter had one God who is the father, hence he could rightly say that ananias lied against God who gave the holy spirit.



Does matt 28:19 call them the Godhead? No

Can you tell us that name you keep emphasising on?
And most importantly , can you give us a scriptural example of such baptism in that singular name.

Note: your reply must contain your own view of the scriptures I quoted .

leksbore:
y do u want to know? I want to ask u the same question also.

leksbore:
is this trinity in d bible?

VomeSchakleton:
you're not much without your hermaphrodite wh.ore to defend you now are you?


silly malvis

VomeSchakleton:
BRITISH HOTDOGS!!!

truthman2012:
Trash !

VomeSchakleton:
you still do this? wait... was it you or malvis? lol! priceless


your god shiits

nuelzy:
not all....to some of his besties....termed 'lucky'

MuttleyLaff:
''became flesh'' is what incarnate is about

malvisguy212 is tying self up in knots trying to explain this thing
and you dolphinheart are helping him misusing possession for incarnation (i.e. embodiment)
by suggesting he is implying that ''Jesus is possessed by God the Son''
when what malvisguy212 actually wanted to explain with his example was God became flesh, God became human

With the exception of God, spirits, whether good or evil ones (e.g. demons, satan angels, other celestial being),
cannot or do not become flesh (i.e. incarnation)

malvisguy212 and dolphinheart, give a honest reply to these 2 below:
Is it possible or impossible for God to be in two places at the same time?
Is it possible or impossible for God to be simultaneously and concurrently in heaven Spirit mode by default and on earth in the flesh?

dolphinheart:
This belief is not in the scriptures, it is man made.


The word "god the son cannot be found in the scripture"


The use of the words "god the son" and "incarnate" are words created to confuse people.


These statement are also not found in the scriptures.
Discerning as a dove does not mean he is God.


Can't be surported with the bible.


No scripture to surpport these statements.


Another statement that does not have scripture to surpport it.


So jesus is possessed by god the son.
The scripture says "the word became flesh not possessed flesh.