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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by malvisguy212: 10:42am On Dec 27, 2015

Craigston:
Isn't this consistent with the mention of Jesus in the books of the Psalms, Isaiah, Daniel and John?
That He was named does not mean he was created at that time, neither does it mean He was elected at that time. He was revealed to Enoch at that time.

the bible say Jesus exist BEFORE the world was, Jesus is the ancient of days. Jesus was name only when the word BECAME flesh , there was NEVER a time He was name in heaven. NEVER. Do not be deceive friend.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by malvisguy212: 10:36am On Dec 27, 2015

leofab:
Paul and his doctrine had troubles being accepted in Ephesus.

"And he went into the synagogue and spoke boldly for three months, reasoning and persuading concerning the things of the kingdom of God. But when some were hardened and did not believe, but spoke evil of the way before the multitude..." Acts 19:8,9

open a thread for this and mention me.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by malvisguy212: 10:35am On Dec 27, 2015

lestat:
U are a fraud

the book of enoch say angels can give eternal life. Something ONLY GOD ALONE gives and you call this book genuine ? Satanic spell is on you.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by malvisguy212: 10:23am On Dec 27, 2015

Luukasz:
Is it God that said all this?.

yes, the inspired word of God.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by malvisguy212: 10:19am On Dec 27, 2015

Luukasz:
God wrote the TEN COMMANDMENT which is my Bible(Basic Instruction Before Leaving Earth) while human beings who can compromise wrote the book which is regarded as the Bible,Quran and the other books

thank you my Good friend, people are easily deceived, the book of revelation say we should not Add or subtracts from God word.

Revelation 22:18
the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone
adds anything to them, God will add to
that person the plagues described in this scroll.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by malvisguy212: 10:14am On Dec 27, 2015

lestat:
Shut up!! See this molue pastor! Thief!! This is how u con innocent people with your backyard visions and dreams.. go and get a job, and stop working for 'ih the name of Jesus PLC'

you are insulting who you do not know. If you know me, you will not insult me.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by malvisguy212: 10:13am On Dec 27, 2015

lestat:
Shut up!! Do you know God?!!! Fraudster!! Ajegunle pastor!! I bet u see visions and prophecies too?

Low life criminal minded tat!

alright.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by malvisguy212: 10:12am On Dec 27, 2015

lestat:
Keep looking for sentiments but u won't get any from me son! Grow up and stop all this! U are a faker and anyone can spot u a mile away!

alright.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by malvisguy212: 10:11am On Dec 27, 2015

dustydee:
I just want to point out that the "son of man" is not solely used in the Bible to refer to Jesus. There are many places in the old testament that mentions "the son of man" e.g Ezekiel 2:1, 33:2

the old testament forestshad Jesus christ.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by malvisguy212: 10:09am On Dec 27, 2015

The gods of this world has blinded mankind from the truth, their mind is darkened by deception as isaiah say :

Isaiah 6
6 In the year that King Uzziah died, I saw
the Lord, high and exalted, seated on a
throne; and the train of his robe filled
the temple. 2 Above him were seraphim,
each with six wings: With two wings they
covered their faces, with two they
covered their feet, and with two they
were flying. 3 And they were calling to
one another:
“Holy, holy, holy is the Lord Almighty;
the whole earth is full of his glory.”
4 At the sound of their voices the
doorposts and thresholds shook and the
temple was filled with smoke.
5 “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I
am a man of unclean lips, and I live
among a people of unclean lips, and my
eyes have seen the King, the Lord
Almighty.”
6 Then one of the seraphim flew to me
with a live coal in his hand, which he had
taken with tongs from the altar. 7 With it
he touched my mouth and said, “See,
this has touched your lips; your guilt is
taken away and your sin atoned for.”
8 Then I heard the voice of the Lord
saying, “Whom shall I send? And who will
go for us?”
And I said, “Here am I. Send me!”
9 He said, “Go and tell this people:
“‘Be ever hearing, but never
understanding;
be ever seeing, but never perceiving.’
10
Make the heart of this people calloused;
make their ears dull
and close their eyes.[ a]
Otherwise they might see with their eyes,
hear with their ears,
understand with their hearts,
and turn and be healed.”
11 Then I said, “For how long, Lord?”
And he answered:
“Until the cities lie ruined
and without inhabitant,
until the houses are left deserted
and the fields ruined and ravaged,
12
until the Lord has sent everyone far away
and the land is utterly forsaken.
13
And though a tenth remains in the land,
it will again be laid waste.
But as the terebinth and oak
leave stumps when they are cut down,
so the holy seed will be the stump in the land.”

Thank you all. Happy Sunday.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by malvisguy212: 10:04am On Dec 27, 2015

Chukky86:
The book was right.

the book of enoch say People are 450-Feet Tall?

7:12 Whose stature was each
three hundred cubits. These
devoured all which the labor of
men produced; until it became
impossible to feed them;
7:13 When they turned
themselves against men, in
order to devour them;
7:14 And began to injure birds,
beasts, reptiles, and fishes, to
eat their flesh one after
another, and to drink their
blood.
7:15 Then the earth reproved the
unrighteous.

A "cubit" is 1.5 feet. The ark which Noah built was 300 cubits long (Genesis 6:15). Do you mean to tell me that some women had children who were as tall as the ark was long?You've got to be joking! Such foolish conjecture is a violation of the simplest teachings of the Bible. In
Genesis 6: we read, " There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown."

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by malvisguy212: 9:53am On Dec 27, 2015

lestat:
All your arguments are infantile at best! You are a fraudulent pastor with very limited deductive and vocabulary skills.

U prey on the broken and disillusioned people of little education by selling u cooked up spirituality to them.

Pastor for hire!! Thief

I am not a pastor. Anyway thank you for the insult. Thank but no thank from were you learn this moral behavior from.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by malvisguy212: 9:51am On Dec 27, 2015

airfinance:
Devilish from what I have seen as u illustrated. But why are people still using bearing the name of someone that brought about evil book?

man has freewill to chose to obey God or disobey God. For All those quoting me and insulting me for exposing this book. IT IS WELL!!!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by malvisguy212: 9:48am On Dec 27, 2015

leofab:
he was right ? God original intent for man was to be naive and limited in knowledge like primitive animals; what is wisdom without consciousness? Adam never knew he was naked until they romanced with the devil who is the chief demon.. Isn't that wisdom?? If you remember quite well the name of the fruit Satan have to eve; you will change your assertions!!!

when satan tempt Eve, Eve quote what God command them not to do, meaning their are God consciousness in human. What denominations you belong too ?

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by malvisguy212: 9:46am On Dec 27, 2015

preciousMI1:
you have d devilish book too

yes. Bible advice us to search for the truth until we are fully convinced that God is light.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by malvisguy212: 9:44am On Dec 27, 2015

menxer:
There is no point getting worked up, if you believe the bible contains all there is to know about Divinity, the ancients and man's spirituality by all means stand by it, but there are some of us with the capacity and desire know more than the bible let's on.

The bible for centuries was edited, redacted, edited, translated, transliterated to suit the control structure of the Roman Church, and we have been indoctrinated along that line; to think, reason, believe anything else is not expected to come naturally.

we have read this accusations soo much, still the word of God prevail. thank you.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by malvisguy212: 9:43am On Dec 27, 2015

lestat:
Sharrap there! F00l!! The author lived before the time of Lord Jesus, and this work has been dated to that era. Bloody semi illiterate!

If u don't agree with what he states simply say so and don't call it a fraud. Stup1d dunce who doesn't take time to study.

what denomination you belong too ? Do you believe demon is responsible for your wisdom ?

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by malvisguy212: 9:40am On Dec 27, 2015

lestat:
I up I say!! F00l making noise here with you superficial knowledge!

Give us sound arguments raised from your own deep introspection and not borrowed thoughts!

Even lucifer can quote the bible as u do.

Abeg park well

read my post again, pin point all what you disagree with, then we will start the argument their. Thank you.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by malvisguy212: 9:38am On Dec 27, 2015

leofab:
did you leave your sense somewhere? Didn't you notice the facth at that book was writing by the grand father of Noah thousand year before fictitious Jesus was born.. The is an eye opener to our Christain fanatic that the bible was edited to suit a purpose.. Why didn't they include the gospel of banabas who explained Jesus affair with Mary Magdalene ??

thank you for the insult, thank but no thank from were you learn this bad moral behavior from. The book of enoch is devilish.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by malvisguy212(op): 7:35am On Dec 27, 2015

CAPTIVATOR:
" the day of death is better than the day of birth" ecc 7:1 , na wa oh ! Celebrating Jesus Birth which he didnt command makes sense to you !

Jesus Knew Ecclesiastes 7:1 So well , not suprised he institutes the remembrance of his DEATH (luke 22:19) but never his birth .

dolphinheart:
Can you quote the direct statements of captivator?
Can you show me the verses where jesus say we should celebrate his death?
No jesus did not die every year!
I take your refusal to respond to the questions and answers to my post as an acceptance that the answers I provided to those questions are correct!

Christianity Etc › Re: Does God know EVERYTHING to d extent of knowing the choice we ll make? by malvisguy212: 7:26am On Dec 27, 2015

CoolUsername:
People haven't answered this question because they can't.

If God knows what we'll do next then freewill is a lie.

If he doesn't, then he isn't omniscient.

you have a wrong view of biblical omniscient ,just because God knows everything does not mean He will acts in a way that will contradicte His purpose and plan.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by malvisguy212: 7:14am On Dec 27, 2015

praxs:
Bro u are not getting the point. I opened the thread for pple to share what d knw. Like someone pointed out earliar, its not just the book that was removed, u can sharewith us why they were removed. No one is deceiving me, thanx for ur post anyway

alright.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by malvisguy212: 7:09am On Dec 27, 2015

Abigail09:
Can i get it from you? plss

you want to read a devilish book ? Its is better you read and understand the lies in it. I have the book too.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by malvisguy212: 7:05am On Dec 27, 2015

snadguy007:
Its not only the book of Enoch that was removed, There are so many books that were removed from the bible. Even some parts of the the story of Jesus was removed from the bible. Reason, i don't know.

have you done a research properly ? If you do you will know why, the book of enoch is devilish
The book of enoch say man wisdom came from DEMON named Penemue .

We read in the Book of Enoch, chapter 69:8-12...
8 ...And the fourth was named
Penemue: he taught the
9 children of men the bitter and
the sweet, and he taught them
all the secrets of their wisdom.
And he instructed mankind in
writing with ink and paper, and
thereby many sinned from
eternity to
10 eternity and until this day.
For men were not created for
such a purpose, to give
confirmation
11 to their good faith with pen
and ink. For men were created
exactly like the angels, to the
intent that they should continue
pure and righteous, and death,
which destroys everything, could
not have taken hold of them, but
through this their knowledge
they are perishing, and through
this power
12 it is consuming me.

What ... man's wisdom came from a demon named Penemue? That's crazy! Did ink and paper cause the fall of the human race? Whoa ... I'd better through all my fine-point pens away immediately! It was Adam's sin that brought sin into the world (Romans 5:12); not evil literature. Mankind is inherently evil of himself, prone to the works of the flesh (Galatians 5:19-21). The Charismatics (Pentecostals) give far too much credit to demons for the sinful actions of men. They believe that every sin a person commits is evidence of
demon-possession. That is absurd! Men and women sin because they are sinners! (Romans 3:10,23).

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by malvisguy212: 6:59am On Dec 27, 2015

praxs:
Lol! Did not say me afraid, i read just a part of it

you did not read, if you did you cannot be deceive so easily like this, the book of enoch is satanic and cannot be trusted, enoch died long time ago, someone came with lies to deceive people like you.

Here's chapter 48:1-3 of the book of enoch ...
1 And in that place I saw the
fountain of righteousness Which
was inexhaustible: And around it
were many fountains of wisdom:
And all the thirsty drank of them,
And were filled with wisdom, And
their dwellings were with the
righteous and holy and elect. 2
And at that hour that Son of Man
was named In the presence of
the Lord of Spirits, And his name
before the Head of Days. 3 Yea,
before the sun and the signs
were created, Before the stars of
the heaven were made, HIS NAME
WAS NAMED before the
Lord of Spirits.

Was the Son of Man named? When was Jesus named in Heaven? This is an attack on the deity of Jesus. Jesus Himself claimed in Revelation 1:8, " I
am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. " Jesus is Eternal, without beginning or end. Head of Days? Lord of Spirits? These terms are NOT found in the Bible. IF the Book of Enoch were
valid, composing well over 100 chapters, there should be numerous New Testament references to it; but there aren't. Although some people claim that the Bible quotes the Book of Enoch over 100 times, this is simply not true. Just as the Qur'an, the Book of Enoch borrows from the Word of God. In sharp contrast to the Book of Enoch, the New Testament often quotes the Book of Genesis.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by malvisguy212: 6:52am On Dec 27, 2015

praxs:
Why was the Book of Enoch removed from the bible?
I did do a little research before posting my question and found out that only the Ethiopian Christians kept it, that Jews rejected it because it......
well the thing is that fragments of it were found in the Dead Sea Scrolls. It seems like an authentic part of the Old Testament and only Ethiopians have...
But even the accepted Genesis which Christians accept says angels from heaven had children with earthly female humans, so the book of Enoch only expands on...
The original book of Enoch is written in a mixture of Ge'ez (or something like that spoken in Ethiopia), Aramaic and Latin. Lets share what we know about it

the book of enoch is 'A' fraud, lies by God enemy to confront the truth in the bible.

We read in chapter 40 of the Book of
Enoch...
9 seen and whose words I have
heard and written down?’ And he
said to me: ‘This first is Michael,
the merciful and long-suffering:
and the second, who is set over
all the diseases and all the
wounds of the children of men, is
Raphael: and the third, who is
set over all the powers, is
Gabriel: and the fourth, WHO IS
SET OVER THE REPENTANCE UNTO
HOPE OF THOSE WHO INHERIT
ETERNALl LIFE, IS NAME PHANUEL.’
10 And these are the four angels
of the Lord of Spirits and the four
voices I heard in those days.

The Bible never mentions an angel named Phanuel, let alone an angel who is set over the repentance of those who inherit eternal life. What blasphemy! That statement in itself contradicts everything the Word of God teaches. We read in 1st Timothy 2:5 that Jesus Christ is the ONLY Mediator between God and men, not some angel named Phanuel... " For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. " Repentance is strictly between a man and Jesus Christ
alone. Only Jesus died for our sins, and shed His blood to pay for them(1st Peter 1:18-19); therefore, we must be diligent to guard and defend against LIARS and imposters who would lead people to believe otherwise. 1st John 2:22 clearly
indicts all Christ-deniers as LIARS, guilty before God.

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Islam › Re: All You Need To Know About Adoption In Islam by malvisguy212: 9:21pm On Dec 26, 2015

Aminat508:
.

Weldon.

Islam › Re: All You Need To Know About Adoption In Islam by malvisguy212: 9:17pm On Dec 26, 2015

Ahmed4002:
First thing you need to understand "actions" of God does not contradict to attributes of God. If you ask how we know this, God tells us in the Quran. For example God is Eternal, therefore God does not die, or commit suicide. God is All-Seeing, so God does not become blind. God is All-Knowing, so God does not become ignorant. The verse 6.101 is answer to people who says God has sons and/or daughters (offspring).
"child is the offspring of two compatible spouses. Allah does not have an equal, none of His creatures are similar to Him, for He alone created the entire creation." Ibn Kathir
By definition God is One, therefore He has no offspring or spouse or any partner.

Malvisguy12

alright, let me hold my peace for now....the one's I've said is enough.

Islam › Re: All You Need To Know About Adoption In Islam by malvisguy212: 9:12pm On Dec 26, 2015

Empiree:
malvisguy212 again?
Confused Nlder

alright.

Islam › Re: All You Need To Know About Adoption In Islam by malvisguy212: 8:38pm On Dec 26, 2015

Ahmed4002
Your long epistle will not proved you right, you say many things that are basically wrong, you say Jesus did not die, alright, did John die? The same phrase Jesus use to prophesied his death in the quran, John the baptist you it, if Jesus did not die, then John did not die.
I say this to one of your muslims. Brother.

The quran say God cannot have a son without a consort;

Surah 6:101: “To Him is due the
primal origin of the heavens and the
earth: How can He have a son when
He hath no consort?” (Yusuf Ali)

Yet, the Qur’an itself records that Mary
had a son without a consort.

Surah 19:20-21: She said: How can I
have a son when no mortal hath
touched me, neither have I been
unchaste! He said: So (it will be). Thy
Lord saith: It is easy for Me. And (it
will be) that We may make of him a
revelation for mankind and a mercy
from Us, and it is a thing ordained.
(Pickthall)

Questions:
If Mary could produce a son without a
husband, why would it be impossible
for the Almighty Creator to produce a
son without a wife?Why do you believe that the Almighty God is incapable of doing something that he himself empowered Mary to do?
If Mary can beget a son without the
sexual involvement of a husband, why
cannot the Almighty God produce a son
without the sexual association of a wife
If Almighty God was able to create the
vast universe and every living being in
it out of nothing, why is he unable to
produce a son for himself without a
wife? When you say that God cannot have a son without a consort, is this not
limiting God’s almightiness?

And the Qur’an acknowledges:

Surah 39:4: “If Allah had willed to
choose a son, He could have chosen
what He would of that which He hath
created.”

Well, does not this Qur’anic verse prove
that God can and could have a son?
That he could have a son anytime he
wants? And that He could simply create a son for himself?Is this not exactly what the Holy Bible teaches?( Colossians 1:15)

Christianity Etc › Re: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by malvisguy212(op): 8:22pm On Dec 26, 2015

Ioannes:
so the book of revelation and the four books of the Gospels were already written when Jesus was alive? clap for yourself. you can't even distinguish between the bible and the Scriptures in existence during Jesus' time.

According to you Jesus quoted sooo many books from the old testament and you were only able to mention a couple of quotes from Isaiah u no try o.

in short all I can get from what you wrote is that the Jewish Scriptures and the Bible we use today are one and the same.

sorry ogbeni, that's a clear miss.

were in my post I say the book of revelation were writing before Jesus ? What denomination you belong to ? Jesus did not write the Gospel, He brought the Gospel and that the apostles continued to preach it. Jesus did not speak His own words, but the words that the Father gave Him:

John
12:49 For I have not spoken of myself;
but the Father which sent me, he gave
me a commandment, what I should say,
and what I should speak.

His message was not primarily about Himself, but rather the good news that the Father ordained to be announced on earth.

Matthew 24:14
And this gospel of the kingdom will
be preached in all the world as a
witness to all the nations, and then
the end will come.

The inspired Word of God makes it
abundantly plain: The "good news" that
Jesus Christ brought was about the
Kingdom of God! The "gospel of Jesus
Christ" is simply the message of good
news that Jesus preached, not a
message about Jesus. It is not primarily a message about the events in His life.

Christianity Etc › Re: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by malvisguy212(op): 6:22pm On Dec 26, 2015

dolphinheart:
Did they(the angels) tell you to always do it? No
Was jesus born every year? No

captivator say Jesus death should be the one to celebrate and not Christmas, infact Jesus command us to do so. So I will ask this questions to you, did Jesus died every year ?

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