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falopey:
while i wouldnt have loved to argue further with you. I would like to chip in with this. every scripture is a template to address things that were, are and still to come. So dont tell me that Rm 14:5 doesnt apply to christmas. in other words, you can as well saidv that the word of God is for only the Israelite since God addressed them and their situations directly and no mention of other races in many ways. in fact i would like you to read the whole of Rm 14 and learn more.

1 John 3:21 Beloved, if our heart does not condemn us, we have confidence before God

Rom 14:22 Do you have a conviction? Keep it to yourself before God. The man who does not condemn himself by what he approves is blessed. (that is when you do it unto the glory of God without committing sins doing it) But if you thing otherwise, it is a sin to you if you do it.
So if you do not celebrate christmas, its all well and good. No sin in that and no sin in celebrating it for people who do it in holiness and righteousness.

If you can quote the old testament for me to support you argument. Of course you should be ready to abide by all the statutes of God as commanded in the old testament and celebrate all the celebrations ordained there. Jesus did not build a house and call it church.

Yes funnerals are not biblical. but you are not going to bury your aged like a chicken because thats the way they do funneral in the bible. no church service. no entertainment of the guests. Not talking of those funneral frivolities you were talking about. If you at any time in your live do any of these, that means you are an hypocrite. Non of those happened in the bible.

If Jesus had not been invited by that guy to the marriage ceremony at canal in galile, people like you would have said that marriage ceremony is a sin just like you kicked against naming ceremony. what is the difference? god gives me a new wife, i celebrate: and god gives me a new child from the wedding, i celebrate naming him. but you are saying it is wrong, abi?

behold old things are passed away, and become new. If you say that Christmas has a pagan origin. Well it is all hear say. We were not there. As some unscrupulous people are kicking against the true biography of Jesus bringing some fabble instead, so that origin of christmas is arguable. A christian king in ekiti state stopped idolatory and replace it with revival and prayer. People of your kind in the future will discourage people tha that revival and prayer has pagan origin and that they should not attend. what is wong in replacing evil with good?

tell me that i am comitting sin celebrating new year. Greatest evangelist of our time celebrated these festivals we are talknig aout and i beleive that God does not speak to you more than them. reinhard bonnke, ayodele babalola, Kartyrn Khumay, Akindayomi of Redeem, Obadare, Abiara, Founder of Apostolic Faith, etc. you are not holier than these people and many more

too much hypocrisy for you there. Leave christmas alone for people celebrating it while you stay clear of celebrating it since it is against your conscience. If you do celebrate against your conscience, to you and to you alone it is a sin.

4C2215131:
Word! It is more of what it represents to the celebrant than how it came about. This is my opinion though.

plaetton:
No.

plaetton:
No.

plaetton:
Thank you very much my friend.
My wife and I just enjoyed a good long laugh.

plaetton:
Lol.
Then why are demons afraid of atheists and free thinkers?

Why do demons only attack religio-tards?

malvisguy212:
Hellow

Wrong, Christmas is not about Jesus. Jesus wasnt born on december 25th


Actually, Santa Claus is more relevant to xmas than Jesus.

Santa Claus actually has pagan origins like xmas celebrations

Jadonjack:
What can be worst than being deprived of ones locomotion and speech!?

Jadonjack:
Coming here to tell us one of the fictional stories being told in your church is not gonna help

Jadonjack:
The only reason he may not be happy is probably because I'm against his believe. If yu are a Theist, wait till you are in my father's shoe before you decide what to believe

I just hope its not gonna be too late then

Jadonjack:
I neva said I believd cos of miracles, I said hearing of miracle testimonies made me wanna av a rethink of the path I chose

And if you are talking of quality faith, I assure you ll see nothing less in my father. if trully he exist, he should av considered my father's faith and heal him

Jadonjack:
He(my father) is the one hoping to get healed by some sky god which I'v always not believd in

Jadonjack:
Buh at least its better to just die once and for all instead of laying on a sick bed for months and not evn knowing when d death is gonna come

Jadonjack:
Few year back, I knew there was nothing like god buh my assertion wasn't that tenacious cos of series of testimonies of miracles

sagieramos:
celebrating jesus birth should be right if he had asked us to do so, but now that we never recieve any instruction on that, it's either right or wrong.
we all observe what happen around and during xmas period: kidnapping, robery, ritual and all sort of evil things skyrocket.
[color=#006609]i don't think an holy being could inspire a celebration that give rise to these evil thing i mension above[/color]

sagieramos:
[color=#106680]yes, celebrating xmas is wrong.[/color]
santa claus/father xmas obviously look like a masqurade rather than something holy. my instinct tells me something is'nt right with mere looking at him

CAPTIVATOR:
Perfect way indeeed !!! No wonder it falls on the same day with pagan celebration . Both falls on December 25 ,



" the day of death is better than the day of birth" ecc 7:1 , na wa oh ! Celebrating Jesus Birth which he didnt command makes sense to you !

Jesus Knew Ecclesiastes 7:1 So well , not suprised he institutes the remembrance of his DEATH (luke 22:19) but never his birth .

urahara:
My Bros one thing Christians don't get is there aren't the only ones who can scare people with hell and a rapture. The he'll in Islam is worse and hotter

KingEbukasBlog:
Lol people who read the headline and jump into arguments ... brother please forgive them

mustymatic:
read into it well...the pagans incorporated into it first

CAPTIVATOR:
Why didnt the apostles who knew this use it as evidence for a pagan custom like christmas like u are doing ? Am wondering where u guys get ur inspirations from ( 1john 4:1 )

- infact , as at when the angels do this .. Jesus was still a baby NOT SOMETHING DONE YEAR AFTER YEAR , please is Jesus still a baby right now ??

tee4light:
There is this doctrine of once saved, forever saved reigning in some sects of belief now. This set of believers teach and preach that it is not possible for one to lose his or salvation after he has believed in the work of Christ. They say even if you continue to commit some sins, you will still make heaven because it is your spirit man that has been saved. They even go further to convince others that you don't have to pray for forgiveness of sins; they say Jesus Christ has died for all sins- past, present and future, so no need to pray for any forgiveness as we have all been forgiven even future sins. And so many teachings like that. I don't want to mention names of Preachers and denominations, but I know we are quite familiar with this "GRACE" teachings and doctrines. So believers, what can you say about this? Is there anything like eternal security? Once saved, forever saved? Or can a believer backslide or lose his salvation? Please contribute with correct Bible reference(s). Thanks.

mustymatic:
You can't compare what God has ordered n what people like you invented.... who knows how many

CAPTIVATOR:
This is what happens when the love of joloffrice and chicken superceeds Gods Word ..

How do we know a celebration is christian ? It must be biblical supported , any doctrine or celebration not supported in the bible IS NOT INSPIRED OF GOD !!! (1joHn 4:1 , 2 TIM 3:16 )

@ OP

- Show me where Jesus Command Christmas ?

- Show me where the Apostles celebrate the birthday of Jesus ?

- Show me where Jesus Himself Celebrate his birthday ?

- If birthday celebrations are inspired of God , why didnt we found a single servant of God celebrating his birthday in the bible ?


- According to the bible , birthday celebration is found among whom ... Servants of God OR PAGANS ?

Rilwayne001:
Oh well! But you are quick to copy and paste those alleged pagan practice in Islam?

Rilwayne001:
Does OLADEEGBU celebrate christmas?

OP, Deeper Life Bible Church don't celebrate christmas simply because Kumuyi said it is of pagan origin, how about that?

Appleyard:
No matter how well we try to make an unbiblical act acceptable, it will never be acceptable. The bible made it clear that ''...all liars shall have their own part in the lake of fire''...REV.21 vs 8, vs 27. The Roman Catholic Church, as part of their creeds and dogmas, maketh a lie, eshrined it as a doctrine, and enforced it on the rest of mankind, as at when Rome was ruling the world. It was a lie that was made to be accepted as truth, but God does not change his standards to suit anyone, or accomodate any practise contrary to His word. God hate lies, and the Roman Catholic Church lied when it said and indoctrinated it's followers and much of the world that, Jesus was born on the 25th of December, when it is not. The bible clearly said that ''shepherds were in the field watching over their flock by night''. You can't be in the field under SNOW watching over flocks in the chilling December. It was a big lie, and, irrespective of whatever it was meant to achieve, justifying the christmas lie, is tantamount to accepting lie as a norm of worship, and therefore, unsinful. But thank God, it can never be. For a lie is a lie. The truth remain truth! Therefore, all those who created this lie, and those that takes pleasure in celebrating this lie, even knowingly, are guilty of the same offence. Romans 1 vs 32.

The only thing Jesus asked us to do in rememberance of him, is the Lord's Super. Luke.22 vs 19, not his birth.

The choice to live the truth or to live the lie, is now yours to make.