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Scholar8200:
I wonder how a man will trip and fall and have all his bowels gush out!!! That that happened means he was in a pretty elevated position and his body was no longer firm but turgid and soft.

cloudgoddess:
the bible doesn't have any answers, and actually contradicts most of the answers humanity has discovered through science. the two are incompatible.

for example, the bible states the stars were created before light was. does not make any sense since the stars are the only source of light. bible says humans and animals have coexisted since the beginning. false again since modern humans did not evolve until 200,000 years ago, and all manner of species were thriving on earth far, far before then (like the dinosaurs, which we know did not coexist with humans). bible says leprosy is a curse cast on people, false again. leprosy is a disease contracted when a person comes in contact with the bacterial species Mycobacterium leprae.

believing in the bible will inevitably result in a complete lack of understanding of the natural world.

cloudgoddess:
exactly.

christians are confused about these issues because the bible lacks real answers and only offers chidlike & misguided primitive explanations. here is a real answer for OP if you are indeed interested in reality (from University of California: Santa Barbara website, http://scienceline.ucsb.edu/getkey.php?key=1138):

"The human species is indeed very diverse, resulting from its global distribution. Before the mass global migrations of people during the last 500 years, populations were geographically separated and were reproductively isolated. For over 100,000 years this has caused different populations of humanity to evolve in different directions, developing distinctive genetic traits and characteristics. The common name used to refer to the genetically different populations of humans is "race although the term subspecies" is more accurate.

Genetic evidence from DNA obtained from fossils shows that the modern human species originated in sub-Saharan Africa, where it began diverging into different populations 180,000 years ago. By 100,000 years ago some of these populations had migrated out of sub-Saharan Africa and dispersed across Eurasia and North Africa. By 40,000 years ago the divergent evolutionary branching of the human species had produced five subspecies. The different races are often defined and named by skin color, but this system is based on only one genetic difference, when actually thousands are involved. In the more accurate system of racial classification, names assigned to the various races are based on geographical regions that are at center of their area of evolutionary development and origin.

1.The Congoid of southern Africa
2.The Capoid of sub-Saharan Africa
3. The Australoid of India, Southeast Asia, Indonesia, New Guinea and Australia
4. The Mongoloid of Northeast
5. The Caucasoid of Europe, North Africa and West Asia.

The diverse races of the human species all have their own geographical territory. Between most of these territories are clinal zones -- areas of contact between different racial territories. These areas of interracial contact create racially mixed populations."

the geographical location of dispersed humans which then evolved certain unique traits, explains why, for example, whites have such pale skin (the cold weather & lack of harsh sunlight in the northern hemisphere did not require large amounts of melanin), and why blacks have coarse hair (harsh sunlight near the equator made scalp protection from harsh rays a necessity for survival). also explains why many blacks still have high rates of lactose intolerance - ability to digest lactose after infancy was not originally innate to the human species. whites developed it from years and years of drinking cows milk into adulthood, while blacks only were introduced to such habits much later.

voltron:
Do you read the Bible or Study it.. HELL is not in any Jewish book it is a physical (known) place not a supernatural one.,. the Jews have no concept of HELL only heaven. but Christians (Roman Pagans) have taken the deception in the Bible to new heights

KingEbukasBlog:
You really have time to argue with people who believe the universe came from nothing ( BLIND FAITH ) and see themselves as intelligent and rational and then ridicule you for saying an eternal creator is responsible for life ?

Anyway , hell is simply a deterrent . Just like one keeps dogs to deter thieves from breaking in and stealing from him . I think the reality of hell makes them so uncomfortable . The reality of hell discourages one from doing evil .

johnydon22:
I don't need to point pastors or anybody else, you are already the one pointing this glaringly.

You need to review the sadism you peddle about, you need to review the idea of some angry humanoid who is so barbaric as to threaten people to accept some unfounded truths or it burns them.

Cigarettes are real, your beliefs are just beliefs.. You either provide empirical substantiation for them or you are a plain liar once you lay it out to the public

malvisguy212:
Is it wrong to tell a smoker or drunker, don't smoke and drink or you will die young ?

johnydon22:
[b] I am under no obligation to respect ideas because that would mean i should respect ideas that are both dangerous and retarding.

I have no problem if you believe anything without empirical back up, you have every right to hold such beliefs but once you bring it out in public you are a liar.

once you propagate it and pushes for it to be accepted as a universal truth you are both a liar and a fraud.

You are here asking i respect people's belief, i should respect the fact that you go about threatening people with torture?

i should respect the fact you encourage negligence and abandonment of the planet we live in for the clamor of a wishful Paradise.

The same you do not respect the beliefs of others but demands respect for yours.

And lastly it is not a disrespect calling an imaginary character imaginary, i have never seen spider complaining i called it imaginary or found it offensive ..

No my good sir, your ideas do not deserve my respect.. You have the right to hold them and i have the right to disagree to it when you bring it out in public..
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johnydon22:
Aren't you ashamed of threatening people with fire and torture to coerce them to accept a truth?

How is it that this truth banks on threat to ensure conformity?

It is funny when something claims to be the truth at the same time relies on threat of torture and violence to coerce people into conformity.

How come people are being forced to accept this truth or get burnt... aren't you ashamed peddling such sadistic idiocy?

i thought truths should be glaring and not supposed to be forced on people... Review your beliefs before blowing out in public with such alacrity

johnydon22:
If being more loyal to human kind and less so to ideas means being atheistic to you then i believe you lack basic comprehension.

And yes, prizing humans and nature ahead of ideas and primitive concepts is the best of being human for me. .

I am always scared of people like you, it terrifies me to think that you will have no simple basis of societal ethics if not because you think that there is some kind of angry deity waiting with reward or punishment shows you really have no basic moral basis as a human but just on a leash by religious ideas and without that idea you might be a serial killer ...

johnydon22:


Hahahahahahahahaha do we really blame little kids for thinking Peter Pan is real. . It's quite funny really..

johnydon22:

Yes exactly and that is what i am referring to..

For you to have a mindset that a human is going to burn because of a book and be ok to reel out such ideas is horrifying and disturbing..

If this is born again then i think such barbaric and sadistic mindset is not for me ..

johnydon22:
The world would be a better place if we humans became more loyal and loving to our fellow humans and less so to imaginary deities and primitive books and ideas

cold:
The re-interpretation or misinterpretation of the bible is your stock-in-trade. So no surprises there. Matthew clearly stated that he hung himself and Acts claimed he fell into a valley and his entrails gushed out. Two clearly distinct reportage of the same event. But here you are,desperately trying to make them seem like the same thing..sigh. If this were two newspapers reporting conflicting statements on the death of Judas,i'm sure you'd have a different perspective but it's in your bible so it must be right. Even when you know in your heart,something isn't right here you can't bear the thought to think something is terribly wrong with this book so you banish such thoughts from your head and just carry on pretending everything is fine. Maybe you can also use your biblical sagacity to clear up these two verses for me...

autofreak2020:
What if Jesus had given birth just like other Prophets of God that came before him, is his son to be God's begotten grandson since the father is the only begotten son of God?

Are we actually instructed to celebrate Christmas in the book?
If the answer is yes, are there guides for it celebration in the book just like in other religions.

Is there any clear instructions that says we should be going to Jerusalem for pilgrimage? If the answer is yes, do we have guides for how it will be performed so it can become acceptable to God in heaven.

Since polygamy is condemned in the bible, is there a passage that contains information about punishment for offenders?
Since the creator knows that he will create more females than male, did he want some females to remain unmarried for the rest of their lives?

I trust your knowledge and intelligence, help a brother.

menesheh:
And one of the disadvantages of having jesus in your life is that it build long rope of false hope and wishful thoughts.

jaymejate:
Nice one. But this kind thing no de reach front page.
NL mods are demonic. Frankly speaking

sonOfLucifer:
What is so special about your Jewish carpenter? Why would I want to be like him? He died over 2000 years ago already.D

truthman2012:
Allahh cannot save or heal anyone. He can only kill and destroy. A thief cometh not but to steal, to kill and to destroy (John 10:10).

malvisguy212:
Cc Seun , lalasticlala

malvisguy212:
Cc lalasticlala OAM4J

mamsong9:
Christmas has nothing to do with Jesus just like Christianity has nothing to do with him. Christianity originate from pagan belief just like Christmas. All the same.

cold:
One contradictory statement in court is enough to rubbish your defence and have the judge throw the book at you. You might be going away for a long time based on a single inconsistency in your statement. I am referring to mere mortals here let alone a higher being. Shouldn't we expect more from him? Why do you keep making excuses for inconsistencies in what is supposedly the infallible word of god? Shouldn't he have given the same message to the authors of the bible rather than giving distorting messages of the same episode thus,bringing his book to ridicule.
Or are you suggesting part of the bible were written by men and some by god? If part of the Bible came from God and part came from primitive men, you do not know which is which. You do not know if Jesus really is resurrected, or if that's just a make-believe story inserted by primitive men. How do you know if God wrote the Ten Commandments or not? If any part of the Bible has been polluted by primitive men, you have to reject the whole thing. There is no way to know who wrote what, so the entire book is invalid.
There really is no middle ground and the Bible has to be an all-or-nothing book. Either the entire Bible came from God, or none of it did.
While we are still on the subject of discrepancies in the bible,can you please explain these two verses on the death of Judas Iscariot. The authors can't seem to get their stories straight..
Matthew 27:5
Then he threw down the pieces of silver in the temple and departed, and went and hanged himself.
Acts 1:18
Now this man purchased a field with the wages of iniquity; and falling headlong he burst open in the middle and all his entrails gushed out

twosquare:
The topic which Malvisguy212 put up is simple. At first, I didn't understand that passage until I caught the revelation of sons and their realms...I remember quite vividly that I was doing the dishes while I felt the presence of the angel who was put in charge of me, and revelation along with explanations were popping up....Ministration was going on and he directed my mind towards that passage about the Jesus refusing to be called good. He said to my inward man, "does that mean that Jesus is not good or even not worthy?" I was thinking about this, but the presence of the anointing from that messenger made me caught it like lightning...it was like a transfer of data and understanding was given to me immediately. He said, "You can't understand what the Lord meant by being good/goodness without first understanding the realm of sons. Goodness is of different pedigree, and you can't understand that which is good except you journey back to the beginning. The beginning I speak of surpassed the earthly Eden, it is the beginning John spake of in the Gospel. What the world calls good is not that which God calls good and the Son was wise in knowing this beforehand. There is a goodness of the Adamic, there is a goodness of the angelic and there is a goodness that belongs to the beginning...."

To be continued....

SirWere:
Hmm.......... It depends on your viewpoint. You see, I, sadly, went to read history, research on evolution and well, I can't honestly call myself a christian, I'm more of an agnostic

SirWere:
My friend, believe what you will. If belief in a higher deity makes you feel good, why not! But I see you have an inquistive mind. Continue reading and looking at the overwhelming evidences for evolution and ye shall see the truth. As to your question, Let me go call sukkot, malvisguy212 and the others to come and give you their creationist theories and conjectures. Good day

plappville:
Scriptures says Michael is à prince and Jesus is also à prince. Are there two princes in the scripture then?

plappville:
Bro, why answerin question with questions na I only asked what your view is as par my previous post.

I would like you to be precise as in explaining it please. Here it is again :


And who is this angel that God sent after them? To protect. God's name is in Him, he will not forgive thier transgressions, He will keep them all the way. Who is this angel?