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AllNaijaBlogger:
I just want money. Is that too hard to understand?

God and money. Chose . Any decision you make, Goodluck to you. Thank you.

AllNaijaBlogger:
Why so surprised? When your offering is multi millions every sunday......you can afford to be driven in the best cars money can buy

do you want to deny God and become an atheist ?

Cloudgodes
1. Is Jesus lesser or equal to God?
God being Greater than Jesus has NOTHING to the with the nature of Jesus let me give you an example; The President is greater than you or I, correct? Yes, as Chief Executive Officer in Nigeria, he is greater than you or
I. But, is the President BETTER than you or I? What I mean is,is there anything about the President that makes him a
superior being to you or me? No. If Jesus wanted to say He was inferior to God in nature, He would have said, "The
Father is BETTER than I."

2. Who is the father of Joseph?
This seeming discrepancy has been explained on the basis that Luke presents Jesus as the actual blood descendant of David through Mary (Rom1:3, 4), but without listing Mary as a link in the chain of progenitors, whereas Matthew gives the royal and legal line of descent through Joseph, who was Jesus’ father by Jewish law.
Joseph could have been the literal son of either Jacob or Heli and the adopted son of the other, perhaps through a levirate marriage by either.

3. Did those with Saul/Paul at his
conversion hear a voice?
The Greek word for "hear" (#191 akouo) is used in two Greek cases in these two
verses. The genitive case is the sense of "being aware but not understanding", whereas the other is in the sense of "you heard it."

4.How old was Jehoiachin when he began to reign?
Jehoachin's father, Madehim, became an unofficial co-ruler at the age of eight to train him! This was followed with Jehoachin becoming officially the king at his father's death at 18 years of age!

5.Judas died how?
Judas hang himself, in that oder the rope broke, if not then from were the body fall from in acts 1:18?

6.Did those with Saul/Paul at his
conversion hear a voice?
The problem is that you misunderstood the Greek word for hear.Although the same Greek word is used in both accounts ( akouo), it has two distinct
meanings: to perceive sound and to
understand. Therefore, the explanation
is clear: they heard something but did
not understand what it was saying. Paul,
on the other hand, heard and understood. There is no contradiction.

7.The shape of the earth
The word "flat" occurs only a few times in the Bible,none of which is associated with the Earth. Synonyms, such as level, plain,plane, even, or horizontal are never used in reference to the entire Earth, but only to specific geographic areas. In addition, the Bible indicates in several places that the earth is a sphere suspended in space, with day and night existing simultaneously .

This is were I will stop for now, you did not present you questions that will be easy to answer, the questions is to many. Highlights the ones I did not answer and when I am less busy, I will reply you. Hope you will be ready to answer my questions too?

cloudgoddess:
This web page (http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_meritt/bible-contradictions.html) showcases the following biblical contradictions with bible verses, although certainly there are more than just these:

God good to all, or just a few?
War or Peace?
Who is the father of Joseph?
Who was at the Empty Tomb?
Is Jesus equal to or lesser than?
Which first, beasts or man?
How many stalls and horsemen?
Is it folly to be wise or not?
Human vs. ghostly impregnation
The sins of the father
Hares do not chew their cud
Fowl from waters or ground
Odd genetics
The shape of the earth
Snakes, while built low, do not eat dirt
Earth supported?
Heaven supported too
The hydrological cycle
Order of creation
Moses' personality
Righteous live?
Jesus' first sermon plain or mount?
Jesus' last words
Years of famine
Moved David to anger?
The genealogy of Jesus?
God be seen?
Cruel, unmerciful, destructive, and ferocious or kind, merciful, and good
Tempts?
Judas died how?
Ascend to heaven
What was Jesus' prediction regarding Peter's denial?
How many time did the cock crow?
How many beatitudes in the Sermon on the Mount
Does every man sin?
Who bought potter's field?
Who prophesied the potter's field?
Do you answer a fool?
How many children did Michal, the daughter of Saul, have?
How old was Jehoiachin when he began to reign?
Marriage?
Did those with Saul/Paul at his conversion hear a voice?
Where was Jesus three days after his baptism?
How many apostles were in office between the resurrection and ascension?
Judging
Good deeds
For or against?
Whom did they see at the tomb?
God change?
Destruction of cities (what said was Jeremiah was Zechariah)
Whose sepulchers?
When second coming?
Solomon's overseers
The mother of Abijah
When did Baasha die?
How old was Ahaziah when he began to reign?
The differences in the census figures of Ezra and Nehemiah
What was the color of the robe placed on Jesus during his trial?
What did they give him to drink?
How long was Jesus in the tomb?

am at work now, very busy, I willl reply you later.

cloudgoddess:
No they have not. The bible contains a number of irreconcilable errors that are continuously covered up by so-called experts who claim to know the correct interpretation. Take three random christian pastors from any parts of Nigeria and i guarantee they will contradict eachother on their explanations for several scriptures.

And no one is judging god by a single verse. There are MULTIPLE bible verses that depict god as a spiteful, hateful, disturbed and very confused being. Ordering babies to be killed and women to be raped, ordering the stoning of non-virgin women, ordering people to kill their children to prove things. Absolutely despicable, no sane person would see these behaviors as those of a loving & omnipotent god.

This is the most idiotic claim I've ever heard a christian make. EVERY SENTIENT BEING FEARS DEATH. it is literally part of our DNA. As a human race we have all inherited the fear of death because its that very fear (amongst other things) that keeps us motivated to stay alive and thus proliferate our species (the ultimate biological purpose of life - reproduction). And it's ironic because this fear is essentially what drives much of religion - you don't want to die so you comfort yourself with the idea that you will be alive again after you die. At least we face reality.

bring proof of this error, and when you do that ,help us to understand the context so that we will know which kind of error is that.

plappville:
Exodus 23:20-23 Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared. Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name is in him. But if thou shalt indeed obey his voice, and do all that I speak; then I will be an enemy unto thine enemies, and an adversary unto thine adversaries.

Remember God is sending his angel
This angel's voice must be obeyed
This angel will not forgive if they are rebellious.
God's name is in this Angel
Take note of the bold. Obey his voice and do all that I SPEAK.

See what the NT told us about this Angel:

1 Corinthians 10:4-7

Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ


What do you have to say about this?

first the verse in exedus say "he will not PARDON your transgressions" does this sound like the nature of Jesus?
Secondly,The only person being said to have exist in ancient of days is Jesus, angel never exist before the world was. The fact that God send angel to guide the isrealite does not mean that angel must be Jesus christ.
Hebrew 1:5-13
For to which of the ANGELS did He ever
say: “You are My Son, today I have
begotten You”? And again: “I will be to
Him a Father, and He shall be to Me a
Son”? But when He again brings the
firstborn into the world, He says: “Let
all the ANGELS OF GOD WORSHIP HIM.”
And of the angels He says: “Who
makes His angels spirits and His
ministers a flame of fire.” BUT TO THE SON HE SAYS: “YOUR THRONE, O GOD is
forever and ever; a scepter of
righteousness is the scepter of Your
kingdom. You have loved
righteousness and hated lawlessness;
therefore God, Your God, has
anointed You with the oil of gladness
more than Your companions.” And:
“You, Lord, in the beginning laid the
foundation of the earth, and the
heavens are the work of Your hands.
They will perish, but You remain; and
they will all grow old like a garment;
like a cloak You will fold them up, and
they will be changed. But You are the
same, and Your years will not fail.”
But to which of the angels has He
ever said: “Sit at My right hand, till I
make Your enemies Your footstool”?

Jesus superiority is shown in this verse,
For to which of the ANGELS did He ever
say: “You are My Son, today I have
begotten You”? And again: “I will be to
Him a Father, and He shall be to Me a
Son”? NONE!! Furthermore God call the son ( Jesus ) O God . Jesus accept worship of lesser angels in Hebrew. The bible clearly say Angels do not accept worship in revelation.

All angels, authorities,and powers “have been made subject to Him” (1 Peter 3:22). “In putting everything under him, God left nothing that is NOT SUBJECT TO HIM ” (Hebrews 2:. Jesus, therefore,is not Michael, the archangel, “for it was
not to angels that God subjected the world to come” .

PastorAIO:
But when I say christianity I'm referring to what is widely recognised all around the world as the biggest, most populous religion.

so you judge christians based on the World point of view and NOT on the explanation the bible provide? If I should judge you based on what I heard people say about you, will you be happy? Jesus say Love your enemy and bless those who persecute you, any christian acting contrary to this and still call himself a better christian is a hypocrite.

Ubenedictus:
PASTORAIO GUESS U ARE AWARE THE WORD CULT HAS A PRETTY WIDE APPLICATION. UNLESS YOUR POST ABOVE IS AGAINST ALL FORMS OF ORGANISED CHRISTIANITY, CHRISTIANITY IS A CULT BY NATURE.

if he know what cult is , he wouldn't associate Christianity with it. Cult discourage its members from asking questions. The bible encourage christians to ask questions until we are convinced of what we believe. John the baptist who supposed to believe in jests hundreds percent still send his disciples to ask Jesus " are you the messia" did Jesus condemned him ? NO. Jesus even give the disciples of John enough proof.

PastorAIO:
I wouldn't say that I condemn christians. I condemn Christianity as a cult. The dynamics within the cult of Christianity are most injurious to the spiritual development of any human being.


People who claim to be better than they actually are are just deluded people. For example those who steal and injure others and then continue to feel saintly because they claim that the are covered by the blood of the lamb. Our actions are a product of our nature. If we do evil that is because that evil comes from an evil source. Apple tree cannot bear Orange fruits. If any transformation has occurred as christians claim then patapata the extent of their wickedness should be reduced, but rather it is amplified.

Hypocrite can be due to delusion or it can be intentional, to deceive. Both ways are applicable to christians. Furthermore it does not limit itself to ethical behaviour but it extends to claims of knowledge. Christians make so many claims and fill their minds with so much mendacity and they go about spreading such mendacity. The perfect example of this can be found in many of Olaadegbu's threads. They make historical claims that are false and buttress their mendacity with arrogance. They practice double standards left right and centre. They are so quick to point the finger at others, whether the others are atheists, pagans, muslims, or even other christians that happen to think differently from them. Naturally the premise of this finger pointing is that they have some degree of righteousness that the others do not possess, in other words they're hypocritical.

your problem is the word "Christianity" and not 'christians'. You are being bias. The pagans in anthioch were the first to call the apostles 'christians' why ?because the apostles did not follow the commercial world of the pagans. "Christian" is an adjective, not a noun.

The term "Christian" was IMPOSED upon
the servants of Christ by Christ’s enemies living outside the Kingdom of God,to label those living in the Kingdom of God.

I think you are trying to say that you are better than christians since you can discern hypocrite, well, Good for you, keep it up. Thank you for your time.

PastorAIO:
Jesus also said 'wide is the way and many are those who find it ...'


... just to buttress your point, and mine.

agreed. However most of your post seems to condemned All christians.
If you are well versed in scripture, you will realized Christianity is by heart and not by word, the substance Is not in the word but the HEART. Authentic
Christians claim to be so bad that they deserve no forgiveness from God (making themselves dependable to God alone )Hypocrites are people who claims to be better than what they really Are.

cloudgoddess:
because that false book is believed to be true by many ignorant, uneducated and indoctrinated people, who are then using the false book to delay progress in humanity and society, especially in nigeria. they only way to get rid of such a plague is to call it out and expose its falsehood.

and i have no reason to fear christian hell just like you have no reason to fear a flying spaghetti monster breaking into your house and drowning you in sauce. both are outrageous claims with no proof backing them and a tremendous amount of proof against them

The overwhelming majority of so-called errors in the Bible have been
demonstrated to be simply errors of judgment or lack of understanding on the part of those who make the complaint. People are always digging up
some supposed flaw in Scripture, which is not surprising. You cannot understand God word with just a single verse. Will it be fair if you are in a court and the judge judged you with a SINGLE statement ? Doctrine is built not upon one Bible passage but upon the total of God's comments on any subject.

If you believe Christianity is false and you don't believe God exist , yet you fear death,you are being irrational, maybe you
uncertain whether death is the end of
your existence.

cloudgoddess:
can you even read?

op said that IF the bible were true, most christians would be going to hell. nowhere there did he say hell is real or that the bible is true. get some glasses

is the bible true ? Why do you spend soo much time in a book that is not true ?do you atheists know the meaning of hypocrite? Hypocrite are people who claims to be a christians yet indulge in what the op list. The only way to relief your fear of Hell is to determine if Christianity is true or not.

Most religions say Jesus was a great teacher or prophet. To determine if Jesus' teaching is from God requires divine insight. Why should God brother to open your eyes to spiritual truth if
you are unwilling to respond to that truth? It involved willingness to abandoned our favorite sin.

In order to be consistent and righteous, God must judge every behavior that is not consistent with His. Therefore, any
ungodly behavior must be judged and
condemned by God.

KingEbukasBlog:
... bro ... The atheists are confused , the fight against this non existent God just got real . He took his time to list out reasons why an imaginary God will send people to Hell .

an imaginary God will send real people to hell. Confused atheists.

PastorAIO:
So if christianity is so damn wonderful how come it foster the most hypocrites of any religion in this world?

were did you keep your thinking cap? Christianity is the Largest religion so you will find large amount of such people. One thing for sure Jesus denounce religious hypocrites.

The reason you reject Christianity is because of nowadays 'Churchianity' which Jesus would denounce.

Matthew 23-23-26
23 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees,
hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill
and cumin, and have neglected the
weightier matters of the law: justice and
mercy and faithfulness. These you ought to have done, without neglecting the others. 24 You blind guides, straining out a gnat and swallowing a camel! 25 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you clean the outside of the cup and the plate, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. 26 You blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and the plate, that the outside also may be clean.

alrahmanonline:
One thing you guys fail to understand is that muslims do regard jesus, tell me where in the bible where jesus speaks just some days after he was born? it was inside the qur'an... Muslims do believe in jesus but not your type of believe, thus,all the above quotes about terrorism is not about jesus, because it written by him but by your Almighty fraudster named paul, you should ask yourself why there's different types of bible, while there's only one quran.... Reasons is that the terrible verses has to be removed to sweeting the heart of the gullible followers... #Ponder

for the quran to aknowleged, Jesus spoke when He was still a child prove He was not just ordinary Human, He was God ,this should be topic for another day.

Muslims believe in Jesus ,yes, even satan believe in Him. But you muslims claims muhammed is the greatest prophet, let me ask you this , how much do you aknowleged Him(Jesus) in your prayer?

If Paul should play an important role in twisting Allah words, don't you think Allah should've warn the believers about Paul? As a matter of fact, Paul preach christ before muhammed came with a contradicted message, muhammed would've learn of Paul message and warn against him, yet muhammed did not warn about Paul. Maby you muslims are wiser than muhammed.

alrahmanonline:
google search about the GREAT CRUSADE and tell me what happened if not terrorism

very good, now we are off in the bible. The crusade kill people in the name of Jesus, yes there is no doubt about it. Did Jesus command us to hate our enemy ? Let alone kill them ? Jesus even healed a man who came to arrest Him. The TWO greatest commandments Jesus command us to follow is to Love God and not ONLY your neighbor BUT also your enemy.

alrahmanonline:
hypocrisy is When the word "kill in the bible is a parable, but it is an instruction inside quran SMH

give me one parable in the quran, if it not a parable, then how many people Jesus kill ? Go and read the life and death of the apostles, even when they convert soo many Jews to christians, they did not form army, instead they were all killed for their faith. But muhammed waited when he successful convert the pagan to islam, he form a large army, jihadist and went on a killing spree, kill everyone who did not believe in Allah or muhammed.

Khd95:
ogbeni calm down,u cannot continue to deny d fact dat ur bible is a death manual.
Here are some evidence,help ur self out



1 ''now therefore KILL every male among little and KILL every woman(female) that hath known man by lying(having sex) with him.
But keep ALIVE for yourselves all the GIRLS and the women who are VIRGINS''...number31:17-18

2 byt of the cities of these pple which the lord thy God give thee for an inheritance,thou(o jews) shalt save alive NOTHING that BREATHETH...deut20:16

3 check up 1sam6:19
the bible God murders 50,070 for looking into a box


these are just few of d murders nd death instructions in d bible,so what are u saying?

let me repeat myself again, does that verse look like Law or commandments people should follow? The verse was against adulterous people unless you are in favour of this wicked people, let me ask, are you a pagan ? If no, go and read the context of the verses you paste and understand the whole story, even a primary school pupils will understand the story.

in number 31. the Midianites were
descendants of Abraham through
Keturah, and by the time of Numbers 31, were a ‘tribal league’ of different clans and families. The midianites were
corrupted and they are seducing isreal to worship others gods:
Numbers 25:1-3
1 While Israel was staying in Shittim, the
men began to indulge in se*xual
immorality with MOABITE WOMEN,2 who invited them to the sacrifices to their gods. The people ate and bowed down before these gods. 3 So ISREAL JOINED IN WORSHIPPING the Baal of Peor. And the LORD's anger burned against them.

You see, the isrealite were having se*xual intercourse with the moabite women ,and this women are baal worshippers , because God had promise an everlasting covenant with Abraham, so he want to preserve the midianites , hence He save the virgin, infacte this
virgin had to wait outside isreal for
purification:
Number31:19
19 And all of you who have killed anyone or touched a dead body must stay outside the camp for seven days. You must PURIFY YOURSELVES and your
CAPTIVES on the third and seventh days.

And in number 25:17-18. It state why
God oder the killing:
The LORD said to Moses, 17 “Treat the
Midianites as enemies and kill them, 18
because they treated you as enemies
when they deceived you in the affair of
Peor and their sister Cozbi, the daughter of a Midianite leader, the woman who was killed when the plague came as a result of Peor.”

The reasons are stated in this passage as:
(1)hostilities taken by the Midianites; and
(2) deception of Israel by them, in the
‘affair of Peor’. So God preserve the
virgins so that the midianites will not be
wipe out, for they are among the
descendant of Abraham.

alrahmanonline:
O girl, cool down, grab your bible and check those verses before you Spit fire on my head,

although the old testament are for the Jews who reject grace, I will reply some of you confusion in them.

The verses in the new testament in the op are parable concerning the end time. If Jesus want war , He say it Himself that He will ask His father and will be given legion of Angels.

And to the old testament verses. The amalikites were the one who draw the FIRST blood during the exedus ;
Exedus 17:8
8 The Amalekites came and attacked the
Israelites at Rephidim.

The attack isreal again in deutoronumy:
Deutoronumy 25:17-18
"When you were weary and worn
out, they met you on your journey and
cut off all who were lagging behind"

They later attacked Israel during the time of the Judges (Jdg 3:13) and often raided the Israelites' land after they had planted crops, leaving them with nothing ( Jdg 6:2-5). God punished the Amalekites by ordering Saul to destroy them ( 1 Sam 15:2-3) - over 300 years after they had first attacked Israel.

During that time, the Amalekites had
contact with the Israelites and would
have heard about God. They could have
repented and changed their ways, but
they continued to raid and plunder other cities up to the time of Saul and David (1 Sam 30:1-3). The Amalekites that Saul and David warred against were clearly no better than their ancestors who had first waylaid Israel.

The revenge was in fact punishment from God on an unrepentant nation. As noted above, they were given ample time to change their ways ( if the amalikites wanted to repent 300 years is enough time for repentance YET they did not ) . While it was the descendents of the original attackers who were punished, they led the same evil
lifestyle that their ancestors had.

Genesis 15:16
After four generations your
descendants will return here to this
land, WHEN THE SIN OF THE AMORITES HAS RUN IT COURSE." -

God did not carry out the measure of the amorite sin until 300 years later, surly enough time for repentance.

Khd95:
D bible God is d biggest muderer of all time,he mudered nd mudered both innocent nd guilty ones,he wasnt satisfied,he instructed christians to muder em

Even mr jesus said.


For those enemies of mine who will not let me reign over them,bring them forth nd slay them b4 me...luke 19:27

luke 19 was a parable, give me verse in the bible were God kill and command us to follow ?

Surah 4:74: Therefore, let those
fight in the way of Allah, who sell
this world’s life for the hereafter;
and whoever fights in the way of
Allah, then be he slain or be he
victorious, We shall grant him a
mighty reward. (Shakir)

You will never find such command in the bible were God command people to fight and get a free passege to heaven.

The reason why muslims will continue to terrorize the world is because the quran command them to do so, the quran say All pious muslims will burn in hell.

Surah 19:71: “There shall be none of
you but shall descend into the same
(hell): This is an established decree
upon thy Lord.”

Since all Muslims, including pious ones,
will have to spend a waiting-period in
Hell before reaching Paradise, Allah
made a bargain with Muslims. He told
them that if they die fighting for his
cause, he will forgive their sins and will
save them from the “grievous Penalty”
of Hell-fire. In other words, there is no
need to burn in Hell-fire until they are
rescued on the Day of Resurrection.
Paradise will be instant for those who die fighting for Allah.

Surah 61:10-13: O YE WHO BELIEVE!
SHALL I LEAD YOU TO A BARGAIN THAT WILL SAVE YOU FROM THE GRIEVOUS PENALTY ? – THAT YE BELIEVE IN Allah
and His Messenger, and that ye
STRIVE YOUR UTMOST IN THE CAUSE OF Allah, with your property and your
persons: That will be best for you, if
ye but knew! He will forgive you
your sins, and admit you to Gardens
beneath which Rivers flow, and to
beautiful mansions in Gardens of
Eternity: that is indeed the Supreme
Achievement. And another favour will
He bestow, which ye do love, – help
from Allah and a speedy victory.
(Yusuf Ali)

dolphinheart:
Pls tell us, what is that name?
Give an example in the scriptures and tell how can one today be babtized in that name.


All three being present does not mean the 3 are equal or are God .
I remember Gods words at jesus babtism: this is my son , in whom I'm well pleased!

God did not say" this is God the son"," this is God or this is my other part".
Worship the only true God!

In the name(not names ) of the father,son and Holy spirit=ONE God ,YAWEH. God called Jesus His son because it was God the son incantate in Him.

Teempakguy:
What do you mean by "the only way?"

God is not restricted to one way everything is possible for him. he can decide to do anything he wants without contradicting himself.

dude, what the _fuck do you think omnipotence means? or do you just regurgitate what your pastors tell you?

alright.

plappville:
You make me laugh small.. anyway. Thanks. I wil do that when i have the chance.

maby you understand the scripture more than me , just a little advice, don't be too boastful, maby their is more you should know

Richirich713:
God bless u sir, for writing threads to defend and teach fellow christians, for I at one time I didn't believe the bible taught that Jesus was God , but the more I learn about the bible and early christian history, the more convinced I became.

I also hope they continue in their research, as I haven't stop my studies of the bible.

bless you brother, I love to hear christians say "they ask questions until they come to faith" may God strengthen you even more.

Dp

johnydon22:


the greatest flaw in the intelligent design argument is that is presents complexity as a basis for design.

It asserts nature is complex therefore must have been designed, forgetting that something intelligent enough to design such complex system would even be more complex than that which it designed.

So how come the super complex designer could exist without being designed by another designer but nature that should be less complex must require a designer.

If one says the complex intelligent designer don't need another designer, that person has shown complexity doesn't really require a designer and so nullifies all his/her argument.

There is no way for it to work..

ask your self, what would happen if we required that a successful
explanation must itself be explained.
This would lead immediately to an
infinite regress of explanations. We
would need to have an explanation of
the explanation, and an explanation of
the explanation of the explanation, and
an explanation of the explanation of the
explanation of the explanation… on into
infinity. And thus, we would never be
able to explain anything
. You know this is not how science work. Here you are abusing the knowledge in science with your own wrong logic.

One thing for sure, the universe began to exist , an external cause is responsible for this, yes God did it. But the question should NOT be who designed the designer?” but instead “Why is God the best explanation for that?

johnydon22:


the greatest flaw in the intelligent design argument is that is presents complexity as a basis for design.

It asserts nature is complex therefore must have been designed, forgetting that something intelligent enough to design such complex system would even be more complex than that which it designed.

So how come the super complex designer could exist without being designed by another designer but nature that should be less complex must require a designer.

If one says the complex intelligent designer don't need another designer, that person has shown complexity doesn't really require a designer and so nullifies all his/her argument.

There is no way for it to work..

ask yourself, what would happen
if we required that a successful
explanation must itself be explained.? This would lead to an
infinite regress of explanations. We
would need to have an explanation of
the explanation, and an explanation of
the explanation of the explanation, and
an explanation of the explanation of the
explanation of the explanation...thus the we will certainly reach a point were we wouldn't explained anything. Now Johnnydon 22 is this how science work or explained things ?

You atheists are not worth replying because you debate with bias attitude , sometimes I wonder ,Are you guys really interlingent as you always claims in your post ? When christians say God is God is the interlingent designer , your questions should not be who design the designer , but Why is God the best explanation for that?

Richirich713:
"In the year that King Uzzi'ah died I saw the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up; and his train filled the temple. Above him stood the seraphim; each had six wings: with two he covered his face, and with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew. And one called to another and said: ‘Holy, holy, holy is the LORD of hosts; the whole earth is full of his glory.’

"And the foundations of the thresholds shook at the voice of him who called, and the house was filled with smoke. And I said: ‘Woe is me! For I am lost; for I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips; for my eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts!’


......And I heard the voice of the Lord saying, ‘Whom shall I send, and who will go for US?’ Then I said, ‘Here am I! Send me.’ And he said, ‘Go, and say to this people:

Hear and hear, but do not understand; see and see, but do not perceive." Make the heart of this people fat, and their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their hearts, and turn and be healed.’

Isaiah (6:1-10)

God bless you. I would've Love them to do more research.

plappville:
Tell me please. .

okay, I want you to do research on this, take ALL your time and understand the truth in this. Study isaiah 6:1-5 and study John 12:41.

Remember
Isaiah 28:10
For it is precept upon precept, precept
upon precept, line upon line, line upon
line, here a little, there a little.”

This is how to study the scripture and then with a teachable spirit.

plappville:
I am loving this piece....

Who did isaiah see in isaiah 6 ?

plappville:
Someone said the Father is not Jesus. Here you are saying Jesus is a man who possesse God. Why all these confusion. Jesus is not the FATHER make so much sense because he proved it several times by praying to the Father. Father cant be Son. And Son cant be Father. Why not leave it this way? We all agree The son was not praying to himself but to His Father. The simplicity of the bible is awesome. We should avoid making the bible a hard to understand book.

NO, Jesus is NOT the father, infact, it was NOT God the father that incarnate in Jesus, it was God the son. A good example is the baptism of Jesus, here we read ALL three was present at the same time.
Matthew 28:19-20
Go Therefore and make disciples of
all the nations, baptizing them in the
NAME of the Father and the Son and
the Holy Spirit, teaching them to
observe all that I commanded you;
and lo, I am with you always, even to
the end of the age."

It should be noted that the other two
names (Father and Holy Spirit) are names for God. In fact, the text says specifically that they should be baptized in the NAME (SINGULAR), not names, of the three persons mentioned. In order to be one name, they must all represent God.

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