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Christianity Etc › Re: Which Of The Holy Book Is More Violent? Both past and contemporary times by malvisguy212: 6:30am On Dec 08, 2015
Crusadistic do justice to this verses as I did :
Surah 2:191: And kill them wherever you find them. (Shakir)
Surah 2: 193: And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah. (Shakir)
Surah 3:151: We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve , because they set up with Allah that for which He has sent down no authority and their abode is the fire, and evil is the abode of the unjust. (Shakir)
Surah 7:4: How many a township have We destroyed! As a raid by night, or while they slept at noon, Our terror came unto them . (Pickthall)
Surah 8:12: When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them . (Shakir)
Surah 8:60: Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into the hearts of the enemies , of Allah and your enemies. (Yusuf Ali)
Surah 8:65: O Prophet! Rouse the Believers to the fight . If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the Unbelievers: for these are a people without understanding. (Yusuf Ali)
Surah 9:5: So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them , and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush. (Shakir)
Surah 9:14: Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace , and assist you against them and heal the hearts of a believing people.” (Shakir)
Surah 9:73: O Prophet! Strive hard against the unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell, – an evil refuge indeed. (Yusuf Ali)
Surah 9:111: Lo! Allah hath bought from the believers their lives and their wealth because the Garden will be theirs they shall fight in the way of Allah and shall slay and be slain. (Pickthall)
Surah 9:123: O you who believe! Fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness . (Shakir)
Christianity Etc › Re: Which Of The Holy Book Is More Violent? Both past and contemporary times by malvisguy212: 6:17am On Dec 08, 2015
Crusadistic you did not have better argument to present only to copy and paste the same thing in all the thread. I say this to your muslims brother:

yes, the old testament is part of the bible but it doesent mean ALL the law in it apply to CHRISTIANS,the New Covenant SUPERSEDE and REPLACE the Old Covenant.Christians are only advice to learn from the old testament:

Romans 15:4
“For whatever things were WRITING
BEFORE were written for our LEARNING
that we through the patience and
comfort of the Scriptures might have
HOPE”

God has already given us A New
covenant and command us to follow .
Here what God say in Jeremiah:

Jeremiah 31:31-34
31“The days are coming,” declares the
Lord, “WHEN I WILL MAKE A NEW
COVENANT WITH THE PEOPLE OF ISREAL
and with the people of Judah. 32 It will
NOT BE LIKE THE COVENANT I MADE
WITH THEIR ANCESTORS when I took
them by the hand to lead them out of
Egypt, because they broke my covenant,
though I was a husband to[ a] them,[b]”
declares the Lord. 33“This is the
covenant I will make with the people of
Israel after that time,”declares the Lord.
“I will put my law in their minds and
write it on their hearts. I will be their
God, and they will be my people.34No
longer will they teach their neighbor,or
say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest,”
declares the Lord.“FOR I WILL FORGIVE
THEIR WICKEDNESS AND WILL
REMEMBER THEIR SINS NO MORE .”

In the old testament their are laws that if you break, God will deal with you
accordingly, God love required justice,
so God deal with them accordingly, but in the book of Jeremiah God say “FOR I
WILL FORGIVE THEIR WICKEDNESS AND
WILL REMEMBER THEIR SINS NO MORE
.”indicating God will have mercy and
"FORGIVE THEIR WICKEDNESS" no more
only if they ask for forgiveness.

This new covenant was fullfiled in the
new testament. The ten commandments
no longer apply as law because in the
doctrine of Christ they are completely
superseded. In the Sermon on the Mount Jesus demands much more of us than the ten commandments. He not only forbids murder and adultery, but also the CAUSE, hate and lust. We are to love God with ALL OUR MIND,if you love God you will keep His commandments, so the key word is LOVE. No wonder Jesus give the TWO great commandments involving love God and your fellow human. So, love for God
and fellowman, not just because there is a command: “You shall not kill”.Hope you understand now?.

How do you explained this ? Allah
SANCTION PROSTITUTION IN THE
QURAN:
There is a type of marriage in Islam that
is known as “Nikah Mut’a (Mut’ah)” or
TEMPORARY MARRIAGE. Fixed-Term
Marriage, Temporary Marriage or
PLEASURE MARRIAGE are different
names for the Arabic term, Nikah Mut’a.
This form of marriage is based on a
CONTRACT between a man and woman
with a fixed date of expiry. The man and woman will become strangers to each other after the expiration date. Its format is that the woman says the following to the man
“I married you to myself on such-and-
such a dower and for the known period
of time” – where this period is stated
exactly. The man’s answer will be: “I
accept.” The dower can be in the form of money or something else.
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62,
Number 13o:
Narrated ‘Abdullah (b. Mas’ud): We
used to participate in the holy battles
led by Allah’s Apostle and we had
nothing (NO WIVES) WITH US. So we said,“Shall we get ourselves castrated?” He forbade us that and THEN ALLOWED US TO MARRY WITH A TEMPORARY
CONTRACT (2) and recited to us: ‘O you
who believe! Make not unlawful the
good things which Allah has made
lawful for you, but commit no
transgression .’ (Surah 5:87)

Surah 5:87: “O ye who believe!
Forbid not the good things which
Allah hath made lawful for you , and
transgress not, Lo! Allah loveth not
transgressors.” (Pickthall)

Is this not prostitution? When
muhammed jihadist was in a war as
usual, the urged for sex arrived, they are allowed to marry base on contract just to satisfied their pleasure. Satanic religion.
Christianity Etc › Re: Which Of The Holy Book Is More Violent? Both past and contemporary times by malvisguy212: 6:08am On Dec 08, 2015
Delusiongirl20:
Picking and choosing bible verses you wanted to interprete to justify Christianity as a good religion rather than presenting both the immoral verses that encourages lethal behaviors.
nonsense!! did I quote any bible verse ? I say quote the verses were Jesus encourage violence.
Christianity Etc › Re: Which Of The Holy Book Is More Violent? Both past and contemporary times by malvisguy212: 9:51pm On Dec 07, 2015
Scholar8200:
Which lies? How many people did any of the Apostles/Disciples execute?

Rather I find them warning against heretics, not conducting inquisitions!
infact, it was the apostles who were killed for their faith. I copy this from truthman thread.

HOW THE APOSTLES DIED:
1. Matthew
Suffered martyrdom in Ethiopia,
Killed by a sword wound.
2. Mark
Died in Alexandria, Egypt , after
being dragged by Horses through
the streets until he was dead.
3. Luke
Was hanged in Greece as a result
of his tremendous Preaching to
the lost.
4. John
Faced martyrdom when he was
boiled in huge Basin of boiling oil
during a wave of persecution In
Rome. However, he was
miraculously delivered From
death.
John was then sentenced to the
mines on the prison Island of
Patmos. He wrote his prophetic
Book of Revelation on Patmos .
The apostle John was later freed
and returned to serve As Bishop
of Edessa in modern Turkey . He
died as an old man, the only
apostle to die peacefully
5. Peter
He was crucified upside down on
an x-shaped cross.
According to church tradition it
was because he told his
tormentors that he felt unworthy
to die In the same way that Jesus
Christ had died.
6. James
The leader of the church in
Jerusalem , was thrown over a
hundred feet down from the
southeast pinnacle of the Temple
when he refused to deny his faith
in Christ. When they discovered
that he survived the fall, his
enemies beat James to death with
a fuller's club.
* This was the same pinnacle
where Satan had taken Jesus
during the Temptation.
7. James the Son of Zebedee,
was a fisherman by trade when
Jesus Called him to a lifetime of
ministry. As a strong leader of the
church, James was ultimately
beheaded at Jerusalem. The
Roman officer who guarded James
watched amazed as James
defended his faith at his trial.
Later, the officer Walked beside
James to the place of execution.
Overcome by conviction, he
declared his new faith to the judge
and Knelt beside James to accept
beheading as a Christian.
8. Bartholomew
Also known as Nathaniel Was a
missionary to Asia. He witnessed
for our Lord in present day
Turkey. Bartholomew was
martyred for his preaching in
Armenia where he was flayed to
death by a whip.
9. Andrew
Was crucified on an x-shaped
cross in Patras, Greece. After
being whipped severely by seven
soldiers they tied his body to the
cross with cords to prolong his
agony. His followers reported
that, when he was led toward the
cross, Andrew saluted it in these
words: 'I have long desired and
expected this happy hour. The
cross has been consecrated by the
body of Christ hanging on it.' He
continued to preach to his
tormentors For two days until he
expired.
10. Thomas
Was stabbed with a spear in India
during one of his missionary trips
to establish the church in the Sub-
continent.
11. Jude
Was killed with arrows when he
refused to deny his faith in Christ.
Phillip
(crucified)—
Through his miraculous healing
and preaching, Philip converted
the wife of the Preconsul of the
city” of Hierapolis. Of course, this
event angered the Preconsul and
ordered that both Philip and
Bartholomew be tortured and
crucified upside down. While on
the cross, Philip continued to
preach and he was able to
convince the crowd and the
Preconsul to release
Bartholomew, while insisting that
he (Philip) remained crucified.
Bartholomew was released but
Philip died on the cross and was
later buried somewhere within the
city.
12. Matthias
The apostle chosen to replace the
traitor Judas Iscariot, was stoned
and then beheaded.
13. Paul
Was tortured and then beheaded
by the evil Emperor Nero at Rome
in A.D. 67. Paul endured a lengthy
imprisonment, which allowed him
to write his many
epistles to the churches he had
formed throughout the Roman
Empire. These letters, which
taught many of the foundational
Doctrines of Christianity, form a
large portion of the New
Testament.
Perhaps this is a reminder to us
that our sufferings here are
indeed minor compared to the
intense persecution and cold
cruelty faced by the apostles and
disciples during their times For
the sake of the Faith. And ye shall
be hated of all men for my name's
sake: But he that endureth to the
end shall be saved.
Pass on to encourage other
Christians. — with Martyrdom of
the Apostles
Christianity Etc › Re: Which Of The Holy Book Is More Violent? Both past and contemporary times by malvisguy212: 9:40pm On Dec 07, 2015
Delusiongirl20:
Christianity had killed 10 times the number muslems will yet kill during the crusade. Christianity is older to muslem and they've learnt alot from series of wars and crusades they undertook therefore abandoning most evil the laws in the bible.
How many Times have we explained this to ye atheists harden heart ? Dint Jesus command His followers to not only Love their neighbors but also we should love our enemy? Any christians acting contrary to this is violating one of the TWO greater commandment of God.

Op. Everything you said about religions , holy, Books. The same can be said of politics, infact politics has cause more death than religion, but politics cannot be eliminated from society; we can only try to find the right political formula.
Neither can we eliminate our religious need; we can only find the right religion.

Now listen to me you harden minded; Show me in the Bible where Jesus or His
apostles taught that He wants people to fight for Him with earthly weapons. Jesus even warn peter for drawing his sword to cut of the ear of a man who came to arrest Jesus, infact Jesus even say , if He want physical war, he would've send legion of angels to fight for Him and NOT human. Be careful not
to judge the Bible by the way people abuse it. Just because someone says they're a Christian does not mean they
are one! You never judge a philosophy by its abuse.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is Jesus Called A Savior ? by malvisguy212: 5:44pm On Dec 07, 2015
^^ Teempakguy The laws of physics of our universe actually do prevent large amounts of evil that could have been committed by human beings had those laws been different. For example, extending human life spans to hundreds or thousands of years would have resulted in evil people living longer and having more time to devise more evil schemes to perpetrate on their fellow human beings.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is Jesus Called A Savior ? by malvisguy212: 5:41pm On Dec 07, 2015
Teempakguy:
Yes, it is possible for God to provide partial free will while eliminating all evil.

Proof : Luke 1:37.
So, the only way to eliminate all evil is to actually restrict the functioning of the human mind ? , in other words, restrict free will. So, all claims by atheists that God could prevent all evil choices, but allow free will are specious. In reality, the atheists'
"solution" has taken away human free
will and turned human beings into robots. Although it solves the problem of evil, it destroys the primary reason why God created the universe in the first place , to allow free will beings the
choice of loving or rejecting Him. God
finds such a "solution" unacceptable
(Why create a universe in which its
primary purpose is unattainable?).

However, this kind of evil-free universe
does exist for those who want it and
choose it in this universe. It is called
heaven.

Nothing is impossible with God, however this does not mean God will act in a way that will contradicte His purpose. Nothing is impossible with Teempakguy, does it mean you will act contrary to your plan?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is Jesus Called A Savior ? by malvisguy212: 10:47am On Dec 07, 2015
Teempakguy:
Wrong!
he allowed evil to exist so he could have an excuse to be the depraved, evil, coldhearted, and wicked being that he is while still garnering support from gullible ones.

people who have not had a chance to hear about his son's death, and therefore, didn't get to make a choice, will go to hell. so where the hell is the choice you're talking about? undecided

Why are robbers evil? after all, they do give you a choice. a clear choice.

1. Give us your belongings.
2. suffer and die.

God gives the exact same set of choices.

1. Give me your belongings.
2. suffer and die.


so why, in your warped mind, do you consider one as good and the other as bad? huh
answer this. Is it Possible for God to Provide "Partial Free Will" and Eliminate All Evil?

I am busy now.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is Jesus Called A Savior ? by malvisguy212: 10:36am On Dec 07, 2015
neocortex:
He already knows the choices that invalidates any notion of choice.

Your logic is warped, on one hand you believed god created everything
and has power over all but on the other hand you think he is not responsible
for what happens afterall.

If you think he is not human why does he behave and act like humans(the evil cold-hearted one)
most of the time ?

And again when you go for evangelism(I assume you do), why don't you tell your
victims the truth about who that god is instead of qualifying him as a "caring father"
even though he isn't any close to being a father because we all know what father's
does best.
You refuse to preach the true face of god as the man who allows evil to happen and
watches in amusement.

From your comment, are you saying that god was a liar when he
said this:

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. Isaiah 45:7
listen. predestination is where God pre-determined, not the identity of
the saved, but the character of the saved.

What is foreknown by God in these verses? Personal identity? Or Character, purpose & plan?

1 Corinthians 2:7,
"But we speak the WISDOM of God in a mystery,even the hidden wisdom, which
God ordained BEFORE THE WORLD unto our glory:"
Ephesians 1:3-4,
"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly
places in Christ: According as HE HATH CHOSEN US IN HIM BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD , THAT WE SHOULD BE HOLY and without blame before him in love:"

If God already predestined our identity that makes the Devil no enemy for the
saved to worry about, so if
predestined, why beware? ( 1 Peter 5:8 )

Concerning isaiah 45:7:
evil is not really a created thing. You can't see, touch, feel, smell or hear evil. It is not one of the fundamental forces of physics, nor does it consist of matter, energy, or the spatial dimensions of the universe.

The king James version translated evil used a limited number of medieval manuscripts that did not represent the earliest Alexandrian set of manuscripts.

All the other translation translated word and opposite with the exception of king James . Light is the opposite of darkness but peace is not the opposite of evil. The bible plainly say God is not the author of evil.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is Jesus Called A Savior ? by malvisguy212: 9:58am On Dec 07, 2015
neocortex:
This your last statement contradict everything you wrote.
An all-knowing , all-powerful being is "testing humans" ?
That is pure wickedness because he already know the
outcome.

We can't even call it a game because the setting is unfair.
It is no different from a father leaving guns carelessly in
the house and warning the children not to play with it or
they will die. Then later one of them for shooting the other
dead.

Even if we assume he doesn't know the children will "disobey"
him(in god case, god knew the outcome), what differentiate that "father"
from a monster in human flesh ?

Aren't you disturbed by the notion that you are just another pawn that
will be sacrificed if need be for the glory of the master ?

Is it not problematic that a father purposely inflict death and suffering on
his children(slaves) just to prove a point ?
are you an atheist? You are assuming God to be man. God is not the cause of evil, He only allowed evil to exist for man to have option to chose from.
Christianity Etc › Re: plaetton, Why Is EVERYTHING Fine-tuned For Life On Earth,multiverses? by malvisguy212: 9:50am On Dec 07, 2015
AlfaSeltzer:
There is a creator of everything.
God existence does not depend on, nor is it tied to, the existence of our physical
world. What holds true of the natural
and material does not necessarily hold
true of the supernatural and immaterial
(and vice versa). There must have been a first, uncaused cause which started the chain of events that resulted in the present state of the universe.

The fact that time and space BEGAN to exist at one particular point of time proved God exist in a timeless eternity, Therefore, God has no need of being created, but, in fact, created the time dimension of our universe specifically for a reason, so that cause and effect would exist for us. However, since God created time, cause and effect would never apply to His existence.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Bible Safe For Children? by malvisguy212: 11:20pm On Dec 06, 2015
sonOfLucifer:
that my people be liberated from backward thinking. cry
Ayomivic:
there are alot of leason to be learnt in the story for young mind.
You did not read that story to learn but to find fault that was the reason you did get message correct
the leason learnt in the story are
1 there is no leader in Isreal at that time, no king ,no body to persecute them for sin comitted, so people does not have someone to fear and the tend to work on their own way committing adultery and fornication even when they knew God is against it. These happen when there is religion Let say their is not religion and no leader to make people follow Gods law how do you think this world will look like?
2 the man thaught there was God fearing in Isreal cities that was the reason he did not stop to rest in Jebusite city which he called strange country unknow to him his country too is as worst as others countries
3 it wasn't the man that took life from his wife but those children of balial. The man cuts the woman parts and send it to each tribes of Israel as message (Aroko) to me the man was in sorrowful heart and he was like how can this evil be in Israel the country that belong to God, when he sent the woman's parts to them. They said "what kind of evil is this, this has never happend since Israel have being in existed" and that prompt them to call on the man to explaine why he sent such message to them.Knowing what happened to the man's wife. The elders stood for judgement and asked the tribe of benjamine to produce those children of balial to deal with them according to law of God. If he did not do what he did that atrocity would countinue in Israel.
4 the tribe of Benjamine refused to produce the criminers and that lead to war that almost wip out the tribe of Benjamine among the twelve tribe of Israel
what i can see about the op is that, he did not see the wickedness of the sons of Belial but he want to know the leason learn from the man that divide his already dead woman.That shows that truely op is son of Lucifer. One thing i want You people to know is that God or religion did not tell the man to cut his wife,so i dont see why people put the blame on God or religion but what the man did wake the elders to combat the evil that was going on in their communities and what happened to the tribe of Benjamine was a leason for any tribe that does not caustion their children of such behavious
for those that said the world would be a better place without God. I dont even know why you think in that way but i am without God, the attitudes of sons of Belial is very small in how wicked the people of world would be thanks to God and to religion without religion or God country like Nigeria can never exsist at all because if our culture is to eat stranger how would stranger tell us it not proper? It was religion that brought the people of diffrent cultures together.The christian in Yoruba, Igbo ,Hausa, Spanish etc have the same belief and that was what save us from enslave each tribe.
sonOfLucifer:
that my people be liberated from backward thinking. cry
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Bible Safe For Children? by malvisguy212: 11:20pm On Dec 06, 2015
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Islam › Re: Can We Eat Food Prepared For A Christian Festival? by malvisguy212: 10:44pm On Dec 06, 2015
enieme:
lOL. Ur example situation doesnt fit. choosing whether or not to eat salah/Christmas food isn't a catch 22 situation.
this family wasn't exactly a pastor's family. Just a regular chrisitian family though im not sure of their denomination
my point is,the command not to eat or eat sallah and Christmas food are religious ritual which cannot defiled a man. Let me explained:

Acts 10:14-15
"Surely not, Lord!" Peter replied. "I have
never eaten anything impure or unclean."
The voice spoke to him a second time,
"Do not call anything impure that God
has made clean."

Religion ritual are making what God made clean to be impure. Just as God will prefer you treat your love one on Sunday ( at the crucial time) religious will say otherwise.
Islam › Re: Can We Eat Food Prepared For A Christian Festival? by malvisguy212: 10:29pm On Dec 06, 2015
enieme:
who are the Pharisees? And by that do U mean that there's absolutely no religious text prohibiting Christians from eating out of d Muslim salah food?
the Pharisees are religious teachers, who value the latters more than the holiness of God. The bible verse I provide is self explanatory.

Let me ask;you are a doctor and on a Sunday morning, if your love one is sick and his life is at stake,just because your religion command, you should not work on Sunday, will you leave him to die helplessly?
Islam › Re: Can We Eat Food Prepared For A Christian Festival? by malvisguy212: 10:11pm On Dec 06, 2015
enieme:
I remember as a child us taking EI'd food to a Christian family and they either giving it to the dog or throwing in the bin (can't remember which). The point I'm trying to prove here is not only Muslims have restrictions about participating or acknowledging celebrations by other religions.
Let's educate ourselves and keep halal every thing we do whether it be what we take in or what we wear e. T. C.
This ruling isn't conclusive cos I've read of another scholarly opinion which states that only the meat products are haram to take cos they are slaughtered for other than Allah. The non poultry food can actually be taken e. G. Rice, drinks, veggies e. T. C however we all know thst here in nigeria the turkey/chicken stock would most p rolly be used in cooking the rice.
justification for this is found in these hadiths:

Ibn Abi Shaybah narrated that a woman asked ‘Aa’ishah: We have some wet nurses from among the Magians, and they have a festival on which they bring us gifts. She said: As for what is slaughtered for that day, do not eat it, but eat from their vegetables.

It was narrated from Abu Barzah that he had some Magian neighbours who used to bring him gifts on the occasion of Nayrooz and Mahrjaan, and he used to say to his family: Whatever is of fruits, eat it, and whatever is otherwise, reject it.
All what the op write are religious ritual which is not important to salvation, I ate sallah food and I see no harm if a muslims do likewise, scripture say:

Matthew 15:11-12
Context
What Defiles a Man
10 After Jesus called the crowd to Him,
He said to them, "Hear and understand.
11"It is not what enters into the mouth
that defiles the man, but what proceeds
out of the mouth, this defiles the man."
12Then the disciples came and said to
Him, "Do You know that the Pharisees
were offended when they heard this
statement?"…

The Pharisees are over religious in the sense that they value there own effort more than the holiness God required.
Christianity Etc › Re: GRACE TRANSCENDS FORGIVENESS! by malvisguy212: 4:57pm On Dec 06, 2015
Unfortunately, thread like this don't make the homepage.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Really Constitute a Myth. I See All Religion Guilty Of Its Features. by malvisguy212: 4:46pm On Dec 06, 2015
malvisguy212:
There are many questions scientists can not clarified, questions like : If the current universe came about through
the Big Bang, what caused the Big Bang?
If the Big Bang was caused by a Big
Crunch, what caused the Big Crunch, and where did all the matter that is
contracting and expanding come from? Science does not have natural explanation regarding this questions.

One thing for sure I can say, is that As far as science has determined, material events have material causes. It seems more likely, then, that an uncaused cause would not be material, but rather immaterial.

God does answer some questions which aren't answered by scientific explanations. Positing an immaterial, powerful being as an uncaused cause explains how the physical universe could have come to exist without relying on the existence of matter in some prior universe.
furthermore, the reason atheists cannot subscribe to a Deity is because atheists hate to hear the name of God, they are to boastful and proud.according to atheists, ALL religious people are illiterate and All atheists are wise. Its seems like God know people like this will arise in the later days, that why He inspired Paul to say this:
1 corinthians 1:27
But God chose the foolish things of the
world to shame the wise; God chose the
weak things of the world to shame the
strong.

1 Corinthians 1:20
Where is the wise person? Where is the
teacher of the law? Where is the
philosopher of this age? Has not God
made foolish the wisdom of the world?

1 Corinthians 1:21
For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe.

Jeremiah 8:9
The wise will be put to shame; they will
be dismayed and trapped. Since they
have rejected the word of the LORD,
what kind of wisdom do they have?
Christianity Etc › Re: What Really Constitute a Myth. I See All Religion Guilty Of Its Features. by malvisguy212: 4:34pm On Dec 06, 2015
There are many questions scientists can not clarified, questions like : If the current universe came about through
the Big Bang, what caused the Big Bang?
If the Big Bang was caused by a Big
Crunch, what caused the Big Crunch, and where did all the matter that is
contracting and expanding come from? Science does not have natural explanation regarding this questions.

One thing for sure I can say, is that As far as science has determined, material events have material causes. It seems more likely, then, that an uncaused cause would not be material, but rather immaterial.

God does answer some questions which aren't answered by scientific explanations. Positing an immaterial, powerful being as an uncaused cause explains how the physical universe could have come to exist without relying on the existence of matter in some prior universe.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible Disguised As The Quran To See How People React. by malvisguy212: 1:57pm On Dec 06, 2015
bashbabe2:
Yet they leave thier Bible filled with more hatred and violence to criticise the Quran,. They quote the verses literally without knowing the reasons for revelation. You can't read and understand most verses of Quran without reading the tafsir that goes with it. this is what all the terrorist organisations do, they quote out of context and claim to be following the book that preached against that which they do.
if they quote the verses in the quran literally , am sure you will be able to explained it. Muslims don't explained, their only explanation is insult.
Christianity Etc › Re: plaetton, Why Is EVERYTHING Fine-tuned For Life On Earth,multiverses? by malvisguy212: 10:19am On Dec 06, 2015
vooks:
I have seen your moniker peeping about, it's good to know you have discovered your voice after an extended leave. Hoping you are well my broda.


I just wrote this on a sandy beach. Supposing you came across it and you never saw me writing it, what criteria would you use to conclude it was intelligence behind it and not some random waves?
they probably will say "it a luck" or the law of nature wrote it.
Christianity Etc › Re: One Question, Three Different Answers by malvisguy212(op): 9:50am On Dec 06, 2015
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Christianity Etc › Re: Four Ways To Respond To Suffering At The Hands Of Evil People. by malvisguy212(op): 9:46am On Dec 06, 2015
SirWere:
Heaven help those who help themselveshuh
how did heaven help you ?
Christianity Etc › Re: Four Ways To Respond To Suffering At The Hands Of Evil People. by malvisguy212(op): 8:41am On Dec 06, 2015
SirWere:
So just roll over, submit and wait for Power Rangers to save youhuh Typical
unfortunately we will have to deal with people like you.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Power Of Curses And Blessing by malvisguy212: 8:37am On Dec 06, 2015
Jetjacky:
that's why the bible says curse not in romans 12:14

Check on my earlier post, it holds useful reference of the bible that do with curses

https://www.nairaland.com/2783948/how-pray check this to know how your prayers can be answered
you are correct in the op except the side were you mention curse in regards to christians.
go through this thread and see why our prayer are not being answer and the solution https://www.nairaland.com/2318252/reason-why-prayer-not-being
The Scripture does not teach that men
must have a sinful nature in order to sin; it teaches that men sin in spite of a good nature:

"Lo, this only have I found, that
God hath made man upright;
but they have sought out many
inventions" (Ecclesiastes 7:29).

The above Scripture is very clear. God
has created men upright, but they have sinned in spite of an upright nature.This truth is taught directly, and by implication, throughout the whole Scripture.
Christianity Etc › Re: Something Must Be Special About The Number "7" by malvisguy212: 8:25am On Dec 06, 2015
DoubleDeeX:
You are enlightened brother. We are in injury time now; the rapture is around the corner and people are busy preaching prosperity. Seven years after the rapture Jesus will return to take over and judge the world before the beginning of his 1000 years reign on earth.
indeed,"when they say peace and safety then sudden destruction came upon them" bless you my brother, I enjoy reading your post.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Power Of Curses And Blessing by malvisguy212: 8:21am On Dec 06, 2015
Jetjacky:
i would give you a Bible reference that has to do with why Humans are cursed. Gen 1:26, 5:1, 9:6
the bible clearly say God created us upright but men corrupted THEMsELVES.
Genesis 6:11, 12
"The earth also was corrupt
before God, and the earth was
filled with violence. And God
looked upon the earth and
behold it was corrupt; for all
flesh had corrupted his way
upon the earth." .

To "corrupt" means to make morally
depraved. It means to pervert what is
good and upright. It means to make
unclean what was once clean. It means to spoil what was once good and unspoiled. The word corrupt always implies a former state that was unspoiled, clean, good, or upright. It is never used to speak of the original created nature of man. It speaks of what man has become because of spoiling or perverting the nature with which he was created.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Power Of Curses And Blessing by malvisguy212:
Jetjacky:
James 3:2, 9-12
even as a christain you've been cursed. Cursed by your own words or by another.
A christian is curse ? any biblical reference ?

*modified*
the bible clearly say God created us
upright but men corrupted
THEMsELVES.
Genesis 6:11, 12
"The earth also was corrupt
before God, and the earth was
filled with violence. And God
looked upon the earth and
behold it was corrupt; for all
flesh had corrupted his way
upon the earth." .
To "corrupt" means to make morally
depraved. It means to pervert what is
good and upright. It means to make
unclean what was once clean. It
means to spoil what was once good
and unspoiled. The word corrupt
always implies a former state that
was unspoiled, clean, good, or
upright. It is never used to speak of
the original created nature of man. It
speaks of what man has become
because of spoiling or perverting the
nature with which he was created.
Christianity Etc › Re: Something Must Be Special About The Number "7" by malvisguy212: 6:51am On Dec 06, 2015
^^ when God measure time He dose so by seven.....
1.God created the world in seven days,
with the seven day being for REST.
2according to the old testament law,the
jew were commanded to REST every
SEVEN days.
3.the seventh week after the passover,
they celebrated a big feast of REST.
4.the seventh month of were perhaps the most important when they celebrated three of there biggest feast of REST.
5.every seventh year was the year of
REST for the land.
6.every 49years ,seven times seven, they celebrated the year of jubilee, which is a year of REST for the land and liberty for the people.

so it made perfect sense to me that God would set up a seven thousand year period for man to occupy the earth, with the last thousand year being a time of REST when Jesus come back to set up his earthly kingdom, as spoken in revelation20.
Christianity Etc › Re: Something Must Be Special About The Number "7" by malvisguy212: 6:49am On Dec 06, 2015
Why will God create the world in six days and rest on the SEVENTH day ? in isaiah 46. It say that God declare the end from the beginning. A similar verse was in isaiah48. This lead me to the creation story in the book of genesis. The old testament is full of foreshadowing. An event that actually happen in history, also picture somting coming in the future. an example is the sacrifice of Isaac which forestshadow the death of Jesus.

In 2peter 3:8, the context was reffering to the second coming of Jesus christ,the bible say that, one day with they Lord is as a thousand years and a thousand year is like a day. so could it be that the six days of creation were you indicate to us the time man will spend on this earth would be about six thousand years?...the SEVENTH day of rest picturing the thousand years millennia reign,when christ come back to set up is
kingdom, the time of righteousness and
peace.

In matthew17:1 it say, that Jesus
took peter, james and john up to the
mountain, apart from the rest, did the
thing we want to know happen up there? Yes. Jesus transfigured before them and they are giving a preview of his second coming glory, now the first word of the verse was "after six days"( after six day indicate the transfiguration happen on the SEVENTH DAY ) why did God throw this in? To wast space? Or is God trying to tell us something that we need to know? note: the time from adam to Jesus is 4,000years [4days] the time of the
church period is two thousand years
[2days] so could this mean after 6000yrs
[6days] God will revive isreal and fulfill
his promise he made to them? Hmmm
am I reading to much . If am right,
BROTHERS WE ARE LIVING IN THE END
OF DAYS. REPENT. THANK YOU
Christianity Etc › Re: Four Ways To Respond To Suffering At The Hands Of Evil People. by malvisguy212(op): 6:23am On Dec 06, 2015
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