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gearcoin:you mean Allah was making fun of the Jews? from Surah 4:153 to Surah 4:162, it was Allah that is talking. The Jews will never killed the messiah,if they believe Jesus is the messiah they will not killed him, but the quran show that the Jews know Jesus is the messiah. Muhammed is very very confused here, he did not no what he was writing. |
"...in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons...." 1 Timothy 4:1 "The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness." 2 Thessalonians 2: 9-12 "...when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?" Luke 18:21 "For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect." Matthew 24:25 "As you have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk in Him, rooted and built up in Him and established in the faith, as you have been taught, abounding in it with thanksgiving. Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ." Colossians 2:6-8 "...do not be conformed to this world...." Romans 12:2. We are in the last day of creation,All this must happened clearing the way for the man of sin(the son of perdition)without the falling away the prophecy will not come to pass meaning the bible lied. https://www.nairaland.com/1853536/end-days-end-harvest |
D1ck:can you explained this verse? Surah 4:74: Therefore, let those fight in the way of Allah, who sell this world’s life for the hereafter; and whoever fights in the way of Allah, then be he slain or be he victorious, We shall grant him a mighty reward. (Shakir) |
gearcoin:non of them answer the op. Pay attention to this the quran say the Jew killed the messiah , muhammed Don't know what he was writing here; Surah 4:157: And their saying: Surely we have killed the Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the messenger of Allah; and they did not kill him nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them so (like Isa) and most surely those who differ therein are only in a doubt about it; they have no knowledge respecting it, but only follow a conjecture, and they killed him not for sure. (Shakir) If you read this account in its entirety from Surah 4:153 to Surah 4:162, you will understand who they are that are saying, “Surely we have killed the Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the messenger of Allah.” According to the Qur’an, it is the Jews saying this. Think! Would the hostile Jews call Jesus the “Messiah” when they have rejected him as the Messiah? It must be remembered that the Jewish religious leaders even objected when Pilate wrote a title saying, “King of the Jews.” (John 19:19-22). It is, therefore, illogical for the Jews to boastfully say that “we have killed the Messiah” when they did not accept Jesus as the Messiah in the first place. And if they did recognize him as the Messiah – as this verse implies – would they have killed him? Whether they accept Jesus or not, the Jews will never make such a statement, sarcastically or otherwise, regarding the Messiah because the Messiah is a reverential figure for whom they waiting for deliverance. No Jews will boast that they have killed the Messiah. And the Jews are still devotedly waiting for the Messiah. Surah 4:157 is an excellent example of |
udatso:let see if you are sincere. Doing Tawaf between Safa and Marwa is an Islamic ritual associated with the pilgrimage to Mecca. Safa and Marwa are two mounts, located at Mecca. This ritual entails Muslims walking frantically between the two mounts, seven times. This was originally a pagan pre-Islamic practice. Muhammad retained it for Islam, sanctioning it with yet another Qur'anic revelation. Narrated 'Asim: I asked Anas bin Malik: "Did you use to dislike to perform Tawaf between Safa and Marwa?" He said, "Yes, as it was of the CEREMONIES OF THE DAYS OF THE PRE-ISLAMIC PERIOD OF IGNORANCE, till Allah revealed: 'Verily! (The two mountains) As-Safa and Al-Marwa are among the SYMBOLS OF Allah. It is therefore no sin for him who performs the pilgrimage to the Ka'ba, or performs 'Umra, to perform Tawaf between them.' " (2.158) Sahih Bukhari 2:26:710 How is it possible that pagan ritual become the symbols of Allah? |
gearcoin:Jesus died and was ressurected, why will God waited for 600 years before sending muhammed to say"they crucified him not?thoes that died before the coming of muhammed,who will be blame for believing Jesus died and ressurected? Allah or satan? Read this thread for proved in the quran Jesus died https://www.nairaland.com/2008614/evidences-death-jesus-quran-prove |
InvertedHammer:The Roman historian and Senator,Cornelius Tacitus, born about 55 C.E. and considered one of the world’s greatest historians, referred to Christ, his execution by Pontius Pilate and the existence of early Christians in Rome in his final work, Annals (Book 15, Chapter 44). We would not expect Roman historians to say much about an apparently small religious movement in faraway Palestine. However, the foremost Roman historian, Tacitus, tells of Emperor Nero fastening the blame for the burning of Rome upon those “called Christians by the populace. Cristus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus.” (The Complete Works of Tacitus, translated by A. Church and W. Brodribb, p. 380) The “extreme penalty” that the Romans administered on a person is death by execution. Thus, this Roman historian not only testified that Jesus was put to death but he also named “Pontius Pilatus” as the person who sent Jesus to his death. The Annals is Tacitus’s finest work and is acknowledged by modern historians as our best source of information about this period of time in history. Now compare how accurately the historical account of Tacitus agrees with the account recorded earlier in the Holy Bible: Mark 15:15: “At that Pilate, wishing to satisfy the crowd, released Barabbas to them, and, after having Jesus whipped, he handed him over to be impaled.” Matthew 27:26: “Then he released Barabbas to them, but he had Jesus whipped and handed him over to be impaled.” Luke 23:24-25: “So Pilate gave sentence for their demand to be met: he released the man that had been thrown into prison for sedition and murder and whom they were demanding, but he surrendered Jesus to their will.” |
Rilwayne001:yeah, I can sleep with my two eyes close, But you? You need to be worried because there are evidence in your quran that say Islam is paganism and all muslims already know there fate. |
Joyful77:when Jesus said"I come to fullfiled the law" he was indicating, he never sinned and he perfectly keep the law.to keep the law you need his grace he bestows upon Jesus christ; Romans6:14 For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace. For more read this thread https://www.nairaland.com/2173054/what-jesus-meant-fullfiled-law |
AlBaqir:you don't even know the meaning of forestshadowing,the belly of the fish signified grave and when jonah"and as jonah was in the belly of the fish (grave) for 3day and 3night so shall the son of man be in the central of the earth"jonah coming out of the whale signified the ressurection of our Lord meaning Jesus died and was ressurected and he live for ever. The quran say every soul must test death; Surah 21:35: EVERY SOULS MUST TASTE OF DEATH, and We try you with evil and with good, for ordeal. And unto Us ye will be returned. (Pickthall) And the quran indicate All prophet including Jesus was human; Surah 21:7-8: Before thee, also, the messengers We sent were but MEN, to whom We granted inspiration: If ye realise this not, ask of those who possess the Message. Nor did We give them bodies that ate no food, nor were they EXAMPT FROM DEATH. (Yusuf Ali) And the Qur’an makes it clear that it includes Jesus: Surah 5:75: The Messiah, son of Mary, was no other than a MESSENGERS, messengers (the like of whom) had passed away before him. And his mother was a saintly woman. And they both used to eat (earthly) food. Pickthall) Clearly written, the quran say Jesus is just a prophet,why did Allah raised him? And not His greatest prophet? If Jesus did not died then it will mean the first two verses is contradiction. Yusuf Ali, in his footnote of Surah 19:33: “…Christ was not crucified (S. IV. 157). But those who believe that he never died should ponder over this verse.” (Ali, “The Holy Qur’an”, p.774, f. 2485.) |
Rilwayne001:keep on deceiving yourself, even your brother lanre accepts there are similarities between Islam and Hindu. |
Joyful77. The post you made are the old covenant which christ has fulfilled, the old testament people live by the law of God and when you break the law of God who do not tolerate evil, you will be punished, but today we live by his grace, we are not bound by the old covenant in Roman7:6: Romans 7:6 But now we are released from the law, having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the NEW WAY of the Spirit and not in the OLD WAY of the written code. So long as a man continues under the law as a covenant, and seeks justification by his own obedience, he continues the slave of sin in some form. Nothing but the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus, can make any sinner free from the law of sin and death. So we are not bound by the old testament law. |
AlBaqir:did Abraham performed tawaf between safa and marwa? Surah 2:158: “Lo! (the mountains) As- Safa and Al-Marwah are among the indications of Allah. It is therefore NO SIN for him who is on pilgrimage to the House (of Allah) or visiteth it, to go around them ( AS THE PAGAN CUSTOM IS ).” (Pickthall) The word"NO SIN" indicate the muslim doubt muhammed of performing tawaf between safa and AL-marwah. Before this revelation was revealed to clear there doubt they understand the pagan practice it. Why will Allah allow the pagan to hijack the manners of his worship? |
Albaqir. Surah 5:75: The Messiah, son of Marium is but a messenger; messengers before him have indeed passed away; and his mother was a truthful woman; they both used to eat food. See how We make the communications clear to them, then behold, how they are turned away. (Shakir) Surah 3:144: And Muhammad is no more than a messenger; the messengers have already passed away before him; if then he dies or is killed will you turn back upon your heels? (Shakir) The first Surah clearly states that all MESSENGERS BEFORE JESUS HAD DIED A fact that Muslims will not deny. And the second Surah states that all messengers before Muhammad have also passed away in death. Islam teaches that no prophet arose between JESUS AND MUHAMMED. Thus, the immediate messenger before Muhammad was Jesus. In other word, All messengers including Jesus has died. The wording in the verse of john the baptist and Jesus is the same, the simple question is ,DID JOHN THE BAPTIST DIED? Yes or no!!! Where did you here christians say elijah did not die?in Matthew 17:1-3, “And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart, and was transfigured before them; and His face did shine as the sun and His raiment was white as the light. And behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with Him”. Does the fact that Moses and Elias were talking with our Lord prove that Moses and Elias had not been dead, but alive in heaven? I believe that verse 9 gives us the answer to that question. “And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them saying, ‘Tell the VISION to no man….”. Peter, James and John did NOT SEE the persons of Moses and Elias, they saw a VISION,meaning they died. The story of jonah is a forestshadowing event of what will happened to Jesus. 1.the three days Jonah spent in the belly of the whale is seen as foreshadowing Christ’s descent to hell.infacte In the Old Testament, the prophet himself(jonah) uses the language of hell to describe his misery in his plea to God in the belly of the whale. 2.just as Christ rose on the third day, so also Jonah was expelled from the belly of the whale three days later. 3.jonah spend 40 days in the wilderness wandering about and preaching for the coming doomdays. the 40 days Jonah spent after his rescue from the belly of the whale correspond to the 40 days Jesus spent preaching after His resurrection from the dead. Ask yourself,what did Jesus mean when he say no sign will be given to them unless the sign of jonah? The pagans in Nineveh accepts the word of God at FIRST PREACHING without jonah performing a sign. But the pharasses and scribe required sign to believe and even when the sign was given they still doubt. |
Empiree:keep on deceiving yourself. The hadith and quran proved everything. |
Albaqir I will still paste the question non of your brother have been able to answer. The following Qur’anic verse records Jesus as saying: Surah 19:33: Peace on me the day I was born, and the day I die, and the day I shall be raised alive! (Pickthall) “There was peace on me the day I was born, and will be the day I die, and on the day I will be raised from the dead.” (A. Ali) Muslim scholars, who believe that Jesus did not die, find themselves in a dilemma at verses like the one provided above. Knowing that the above testimony of Jesus in Surah 19:33 clearly proves that he died before his ascension to heaven, many Muslim apologists attempt to respond by saying that this is a future event. They try to explain away this Qur’anic verse by saying that Jesus will die when he comes back the second time and then be raised back to life. They say this with no rhyme or reason except to evade an obvious contradiction in the Qur’an. Well, what evidence do they provide to make such an outrageous claim? None! But, this interpretation poses a problem for Muslim scholars because the very same phrase is also expressed just a few verses earlier in the Qur’an regarding John the Baptist (Yahya) . We can read an almost identical passage about John the Baptist in Surah 19:15. Note the similarity in the wordings: Surah 19:15: And peace on him on the day he was born, and on the day he dies, and on the day he is raised to life. (Shakir) What is the different between this verse that talk about the death of john? If Jesus did not die, then John did not die. The chronological sequence of event is clearly understood and correctly applied here. Yet, in the case of Jesus, we find Muslims having Jesus ascending to God BEFORE dying. This is satanic manipulation. And to the op, I will give you an example; “die” is translated from the Arabic word, “mutawaffika.” The term “mutawaffika” occurs over 25 times in the Qur’an, and in each case it refers to the death of someone. Especially enlightening is its usage in Surah 39:42: “It is Allah that takes (mutawaffika) the SOULS (of men) at DEATH; and those that die not (He takes) (m utawaffika) during their sleep: those on whom He has passed the decree of death.” (Yusuf Ali) Thus, it is important to note that if Qur’an translators (like Yusuf Ali) prefer to use another phrase such as, “Thou didst take me up” (mutawaffika) instead of “Thou didst cause me to die” (mutawaffika) in their translations, it means the same thing in the Arabic Qur’an. |
AlBaqir:who do you think you are chatting with? Little boy? 1. Is the Arab pagan doing tawaf between safa and marwa? Yes 2.did the quran admits it was a pagan ritual? Yes. 3.did muhammed retained the practice? Yes. This is not logic, this is simple as sterted in the quran. |
AlBaqir:first you said what I quote was not. Hadith but your last statement say there is nothing wrong with the hadith I quote,(confused) The Islamic books (hadith and quran) I provide was clear,the facts that the pagan practice such before muhammed approved it for the worship of Allah debunked All you claimed. How can the very same two mountains that were sacred to the pagans become the “SYMBOL OF ALLAH”all of a sudden? Moreover, how is it that the very same pagan ritual of running between the two hills is also retained in Islam? In addition, why was the Arab pagan ritual of going around the Ka’ba seven times, also retained in Islam? |
AlBaqir:this hadith is in harmony with surah2:158, muhammed sanctioned pagan practice in ISLAM, he retained the way of worshipping pagan to ISLAM; Sahih Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 60, Number 23: Narrated By ‘Asim bin Sulaiman: I asked Anas bin Malik about Safa and Marwa (i.e. two mountains at Mecca). Anas replied, “We used to consider (i.e. going around) them a custom of the PRE-ISLAMIC PERIOD OF IGNORANCE, so when Islam came, we gave up going around them. Then Allah revealed, ‘Verily, Safa and Marwa (i.e. two mountains at Mecca) are among the SYMBOL OF ALLAH. So it is not harmful of those who perform the Hajj of the House (of Allah) or perform the Umra to ambulate (Tawaf) between them.’” ( Surah 2:158) [End of Quote] Surah 2:158: “Lo! (the mountains) As- Safa and Al-Marwah are among the indications of Allah. It is therefore no sin for him who is on pilgrimage to the House (of Allah) or visiteth it, to go around them ( AS THE PAGAN CUSTOM IS ).” (Pickthall) |
AlBaqir:muhammed will never contradicts his lord yet satan inspired word contrary to Allah word in his revelation(satanic verse) |
Ifeann:excellent post. |
YourMain:the king James version was translated during the England medieval period, many of the Alexandrien manuscript is missing there because at that time the alexandran manuscript is not been discovered that is why we have the nkjv(the new king James version) the bible I used is the NIV and starnderd version, my battery is low, I enjoyed chating with you, this link may help http://ministerbook.com/topics/facts-about-bible/ When I recharged my battery hopefully we will continue. |
YourMain:in Christianity, all sin is are equal but I understand you very well, sinned is measures in our physical world. In Matthew 5:21-28, Jesus equates committing adultery with having lust in your heart and committing murder with having hatred in your heart. However, this does not mean the sins are equal. What Jesus was trying to get across to the Pharisees is that sin is still sin even if you only want to do the act, without actually carrying it out. |
YourMain:the bible say love and worship God with all your MIND , if you believe in Jesus and still doing bad things, it mean you are not worshipping God with all your MIND If you called the judge a good judge,it means you bribe him with your good deed.most of your explanation contradicts the teaching in the quran Surah101:6-11 God says in the Quran that our deeds will be measured or weighed, and whosoever has more good deeds will enter the Gardens of Paradise and whose evil deeds weigh more than the good ones will be entered into the Hell fire. God does not have a scale on which He places our good and bad deeds to determine if we are good enough to enter Heaven and escape Hell. Rather, as the apostle Paul says, our salvation is by faith, "it is the gift of God". Jesus Christ stated, "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (John 3:16) Thank you. |
YourMain:All religion teaches that salvation is attained by human effort"good work theology" if I can do enough,pray enough give enough perhaps,God will grant me external life.only Christianity teaches that God himself provide a way by which man can be saved. Ephesian2:8 was saying, salvation is not by our doing(work) less any man should boast,it is the free gift of God in christ Jesus,God has already done everything for us, we just have to believe in his word (Jesus) and be saved. ISLAM say if your good deed outweigh your bad deed, God will forgive you, think of our legal system, if someone killed your love one and he was arrested,on the day of judgment, he say to the judge" I have been doing good things more please have mercy,and the judge pardon him" will you called the judge a goog judge? Infacte many religion teaching contradicts the physical law of man. |
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YourMain:yes however , Christianity is Not A religion. Many religion teaching contradicts Christianity,it is either Christianity is wrong and all other religion are right or the other way round. |
Akdegreat:A Creator God, if He exists, must, by definition, exist beyond the limits of the universe in order to have created it. The laws of physics tell us that we cannot make measurements beyond the limits of this universe. Therefore, scientists can conclusively determine that we cannot ever detect God using any of our instruments. However, God is not restricted to our limitations and could choose to reveal part of Himself to us. God could not reveal His entirety to us without causing major problems in our universe because the bible say no man can see God and live. https://www.nairaland.com/2135981/because-god-not-revealed-himself |
Joyful77:https://www.nairaland.com/2092548/root-caused-islamic-terrorism |
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