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Christianity Etc › Re: 14 Evidences For The Resurrection Of Jesus Christ by malvisguy212: 4:02pm On Apr 05, 2015
gearcoin:
Read the reply in the post very well with open mind and you will know that they have surely treat your Bleep up.
Jews do know that Jesus is the true mesiah to them but due to hatred toward him they rejected him the exact way igbos people believe GMB is a good person but most of them rejected because him because of their personal hatred for him.
For Jews to be bold and boast of killing jesus (of which they do not succeed based on quran evidence), It was a way of mocking Jesus
because they hated him. They thought they killed Jesus and in their eyes that was proof
that he wasn't the Messiah. They
took the "Messiah" seriously, but not
Jesus. They weren't making fun of
the concept of Messiah, but were
making fun of Jesus.
So mr man, if you believe that Jesus die for you that is our own belief and problem.
For we Muslim, Jesus did not die for us we only adore him and believe on him as a true prophet sent to Isrealite to know the oneness of God.
you mean Allah was making fun of the Jews? from Surah 4:153 to Surah 4:162, it was Allah that is talking.

The Jews will never killed the messiah,if they believe Jesus is the messiah they will not killed him, but the quran show that the Jews know Jesus is the messiah. Muhammed is very very confused here, he did not no what he was writing.
Islam › Re: The French Seek Knowledge About Islam From Islamic Books by malvisguy212: 3:35pm On Apr 05, 2015
"...in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons...." 1 Timothy 4:1

"The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among
those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all
may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness." 2 Thessalonians 2: 9-12

"...when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?" Luke 18:21

"For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect." Matthew 24:25

"As you have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk in Him, rooted and built up in Him and established in the faith, as you have been taught, abounding in it with thanksgiving. Beware lest anyone cheat you through
philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ." Colossians 2:6-8

"...do not be conformed to this
world...." Romans 12:2.

We are in the last day of creation,All this must happened clearing the way for the man of sin(the son of perdition)without the falling away the prophecy will not come to pass meaning the bible lied.
https://www.nairaland.com/1853536/end-days-end-harvest
Christianity Etc › Re: Silence in the face of evil is itself evil by malvisguy212: 3:16pm On Apr 05, 2015
D1ck:
Before I go ballistic on you, I wanna ask you a question; "Who thought you the interpretation of the holy Quran?"
can you explained this verse?
Surah 4:74: Therefore, let those
fight in the way of Allah, who sell
this world’s life for the hereafter;
and whoever fights in the way of
Allah, then be he slain or be he
victorious, We shall grant him a
mighty reward. (Shakir)
Christianity Etc › Re: 14 Evidences For The Resurrection Of Jesus Christ by malvisguy212: 2:49pm On Apr 05, 2015
gearcoin:
I can see they have answered all your questions perfectly in the thread.
If you think in your own mind that jesus was killed by jews that is your own believe.
We muslims knew and believe firmly that Jesus was not killed .Allah raised him up and will surely come back to the world to die as a muslim.
non of them answer the op. Pay attention to this the quran say the Jew killed the messiah , muhammed Don't know what he was writing here;


Surah 4:157: And their saying:
Surely we have killed the Messiah,
Isa son of Marium, the messenger
of Allah; and they did not kill him
nor did they crucify him, but it
appeared to them so (like Isa) and
most surely those who differ therein
are only in a doubt about it; they
have no knowledge respecting it, but
only follow a conjecture, and they
killed him not for sure. (Shakir)

If you read this account in its entirety
from Surah 4:153 to Surah 4:162, you
will understand who they are that are
saying, “Surely we have killed the
Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the
messenger of Allah.” According to the
Qur’an, it is the Jews saying this. Think!
Would the hostile Jews call Jesus the
“Messiah” when they have rejected him
as the Messiah? It must be remembered
that the Jewish religious leaders even
objected when Pilate wrote a title saying,
“King of the Jews.” (John 19:19-22). It is,
therefore, illogical for the Jews to
boastfully say that “we have killed the
Messiah” when they did not accept Jesus
as the Messiah in the first place. And if
they did recognize him as the Messiah –
as this verse implies – would they have
killed him? Whether they accept Jesus or
not, the Jews will never make such a
statement, sarcastically or otherwise,
regarding the Messiah because the
Messiah is a reverential figure for whom
they waiting for deliverance. No Jews will
boast that they have killed the Messiah.
And the Jews are still devotedly waiting
for the Messiah.
Surah 4:157 is an excellent example of
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Die for Our Sin? Which Sin? Ifeann Should Please Come In by malvisguy212: 1:11pm On Apr 05, 2015
udatso:
Seriously you have no honesty in you. YYou have raised this issue and you have been well replied in many cases. I used to think you had some sincerity left in you but all I see now is Ifeann. You are nothing but a recycler of answered questions. Shame on you
let see if you are sincere.

Doing Tawaf between Safa and Marwa is
an Islamic ritual associated with the
pilgrimage to Mecca. Safa and Marwa are two mounts, located at Mecca. This ritual entails Muslims walking frantically
between the two mounts, seven times.
This was originally a pagan pre-Islamic
practice. Muhammad retained it for
Islam, sanctioning it with yet another
Qur'anic revelation.

Narrated 'Asim: I asked Anas bin
Malik: "Did you use to dislike to
perform Tawaf between Safa and
Marwa?" He said, "Yes, as it was of the
CEREMONIES OF THE DAYS OF THE PRE-ISLAMIC
PERIOD OF IGNORANCE, till Allah
revealed: 'Verily! (The two mountains)
As-Safa and Al-Marwa are among the
SYMBOLS OF Allah. It is therefore no sin
for him who performs the pilgrimage
to the Ka'ba, or performs 'Umra, to
perform Tawaf between them.'
" (2.158)
Sahih Bukhari 2:26:710

How is it possible that pagan ritual become the symbols of Allah?
Christianity Etc › Re: 14 Evidences For The Resurrection Of Jesus Christ by malvisguy212: 8:50am On Apr 05, 2015
gearcoin:
Yes! But we did not believe he was crucified but rather,Allah elevated him up to save him from his enemy and he will surely come back to the world and kill that antichrist demon and he will finally die as a muslim.
Jesus died and was ressurected, why will God waited for 600 years before sending muhammed to say"they crucified him not?thoes that died before the coming of muhammed,who will be blame for believing Jesus died and ressurected? Allah or satan?
Read this thread for proved in the quran Jesus died https://www.nairaland.com/2008614/evidences-death-jesus-quran-prove
Christianity Etc › Re: 14 Evidences For The Resurrection Of Jesus Christ by malvisguy212: 8:44am On Apr 05, 2015
InvertedHammer:
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Requoting verses in the bible is in itself not an evidence.

Do you know the meaning of evidence?
\
The Roman historian and
Senator,Cornelius Tacitus, born about
55 C.E. and considered one of the world’s
greatest historians, referred to Christ, his
execution by Pontius Pilate and the
existence of early Christians in Rome
in his final work, Annals (Book 15,
Chapter 44).
We would not expect Roman historians to
say much about an apparently small
religious movement in faraway Palestine.
However, the foremost Roman historian,
Tacitus, tells of Emperor Nero fastening
the blame for the burning of Rome upon
those “called Christians by the
populace. Cristus, from whom the
name had its origin, suffered the
extreme penalty during the reign of
Tiberius at the hands of one of our
procurators, Pontius Pilatus.” (The
Complete Works of Tacitus, translated
by A. Church and W. Brodribb, p. 380)
The “extreme penalty” that the Romans
administered on a person is death by
execution. Thus, this Roman historian
not only testified that Jesus was put to
death but he also named “Pontius
Pilatus” as the person who sent Jesus to
his death. The Annals is Tacitus’s finest
work and is acknowledged by modern
historians as our best source of
information about this period of time in
history. Now compare how accurately the
historical account of Tacitus agrees with
the account recorded earlier in the Holy
Bible:
Mark 15:15: “At that Pilate, wishing
to satisfy the crowd, released
Barabbas to them, and, after having
Jesus whipped, he handed him over
to be impaled.”
Matthew 27:26: “Then he released
Barabbas to them, but he had Jesus
whipped and handed him over to be
impaled.”
Luke 23:24-25: “So Pilate gave
sentence for their demand to be met:
he released the man that had been
thrown into prison for sedition and
murder and whom they were
demanding, but he surrendered
Jesus to their will.”
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Die for Our Sin? Which Sin? Ifeann Should Please Come In by malvisguy212: 7:39am On Apr 05, 2015
Rilwayne001:
ogaa, go and sleep jor undecided
yeah, I can sleep with my two eyes close, But you? You need to be worried because there are evidence in your quran that say Islam is paganism and all muslims already know there fate.
Christianity Etc › Re: Bangladesh, Islamic Terror? by malvisguy212: 7:37am On Apr 05, 2015
Joyful77:
This verse below is clear. Are you saying that Jesus contradicted himself??

"Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to abolish the Law (the Old Testament) or the Prophets; [size=14pt] I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. [/size] I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law (the Old Testament) until everything is accomplished" (Matthew 5:17-18)

Anyway, you should also be informed that Muslims these days are not also expected to fight according to those laws you quoted; those verses are contextual. Extremists who claim that they're killing based on the verses are merely exploiting them for their own selfish interests and are NOT fighting for Islam!!
when Jesus said"I come to fullfiled the law" he was indicating, he never sinned and he perfectly keep the law.to keep the law you need his grace he bestows upon Jesus christ;

Romans6:14
For sin shall no longer be your master,
because you are not under the law, but
under grace.
For more read this thread https://www.nairaland.com/2173054/what-jesus-meant-fullfiled-law
Islam › Re: Do Qur'an Says Jesus Has Died?! Explanation Of The Word "Tawafii" by malvisguy212: 7:25am On Apr 05, 2015
AlBaqir:
When you copy-paste, you copy-paste mistakes along with it. Qur'an NEVER emphasis the word "ALL". It simply says "...many were the messengers that passed away before him"

If you understand the Arabic, the bold is^ "qad khalat MIN qablihi Rasul". Emphasis on "MIN". Very crystal clear.

However, one of the many Islamic belief is that there are some messenger of Allah still alive. A good example is Khidr (as) mentioned in Surah al-Kahf. He met and thought Musa (as). Still very much alive.



Where is VISION = they died? Vision could be dream, hallucination, aspiration, mirage, mystical or supernatural experience.

Don't you believe a man can see VISION of someone else ALIVE (perhaps in another realm) as well as DEAD?



Nonsense. "Try again later"



Perhaps there is another "Gospel according to" in the Bible that says Jesus rose on the third day?!
Bible says he died on "Friday (in the evening) and resurrected on the First day of the week before Dawn"

Where does Friday (Evening) - Sunday (before Dawn) Equal Three days and Three Nights?
Rilwayne001, what does your friend has in WAYEC mathematics?



Nonsense! Since Jonah has many "signs", It is because of dubious people like you that Jesus made the particular "sign of Jonah" he was referring to clearer by saying:
"There shall be no miracle except the miracle of prophet Jonah. For prophet Jonah was in the belly of whale for three days and three nights so is the son of man be in the heart of the earth for three days and three night"

Like Qur'an used to say "...aren't you reasons?"
you don't even know the meaning of forestshadowing,the belly of the fish signified grave and when jonah"and as jonah was in the belly of the fish (grave) for 3day and 3night so shall the son of man be in the central of the earth"jonah coming out of the whale signified the ressurection of our Lord meaning Jesus died and was ressurected and he live for ever.

The quran say every soul must test death;
Surah 21:35: EVERY SOULS MUST TASTE
OF DEATH, and We try you with evil
and with good, for ordeal. And unto
Us ye will be returned. (Pickthall)

And the quran indicate All prophet including Jesus was human;

Surah 21:7-8: Before thee, also, the
messengers We sent were but MEN,
to whom We granted inspiration: If ye
realise this not, ask of those who
possess the Message. Nor did We give
them bodies that ate no food, nor
were they EXAMPT FROM DEATH.
(Yusuf Ali)

And the Qur’an makes it clear that it
includes Jesus:

Surah 5:75: The Messiah, son of
Mary, was no other than a
MESSENGERS, messengers (the like of
whom) had passed away before
him. And his mother was a saintly
woman. And they both used to eat
(earthly) food. Pickthall)

Clearly written, the quran say Jesus is just a prophet,why did Allah raised him? And not His greatest prophet? If Jesus did not died then it will mean the first two verses is contradiction.

Yusuf Ali, in his footnote of Surah 19:33:

“…Christ was not crucified (S. IV. 157).
But those who believe that he never
died should ponder over this
verse.” (Ali, “The Holy Qur’an”,
p.774, f. 2485.)
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Die for Our Sin? Which Sin? Ifeann Should Please Come In by malvisguy212: 9:47pm On Apr 04, 2015
Rilwayne001:
^^^

And the above is an evidence of not passing through a reputable school or that you just want to remain a featherhead that can't decipher simple explanation.
Argueing with malvisguy is total waste of time because he doesn't read refutations to his shenanigans all he does is copy and paste like a robot and when his copy/paste has been refuted you copy and paste them again . wtf!!!

Different people with Different problem...Smh
keep on deceiving yourself, even your brother lanre accepts there are similarities between Islam and Hindu.
Christianity Etc › Re: Bangladesh, Islamic Terror? by malvisguy212: 9:21pm On Apr 04, 2015
Joyful77.
The post you made are the old covenant which christ has fulfilled, the old testament people live by the law of God and when you break the law of God who do not tolerate evil, you will be punished, but today we live by his grace, we are not bound by the old covenant in Roman7:6:
Romans 7:6
But now we are released from the law,
having died to that which held us
captive, so that we serve in the NEW WAY
of the Spirit and not in the OLD WAY of the
written code.

So long as a man continues under
the law as a covenant, and seeks
justification by his own obedience, he
continues the slave of sin in some form.
Nothing but the Spirit of life in Christ
Jesus, can make any sinner free from the law of sin and death. So we are not bound by the old testament law.
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Die for Our Sin? Which Sin? Ifeann Should Please Come In by malvisguy212: 9:09pm On Apr 04, 2015
AlBaqir:
Hey yah! Sorry if that pains.



Before the Arab pagan hijacked the system and pollute the practice with their idols, it is obvious Prophet Ibrahim and his family first established the practice which pilgrims used to perform during their pilgrimage to Mecca. Bible called it "Bakka" and Qur'an confirmed the name to be an old name used for Mecca.



Where does Qur'an admits it was a pagan ritual? I bet you do not know the meaning of admit



There's no "retain" here. It is re-establishment of the practice of prophet Ibrahim (as) which the pagan polluted with idols and bad satanic intentions. Muhammad destroyed their idols, set the intentions of the muslims clean and focus to the One True God.
did Abraham performed tawaf between safa and marwa?
Surah 2:158: “Lo! (the mountains) As-
Safa and Al-Marwah are among the
indications of Allah. It is therefore NO
SIN for him who is on pilgrimage to
the House (of Allah) or visiteth it, to
go around them ( AS THE PAGAN
CUSTOM IS ).” (Pickthall)

The word"NO SIN" indicate the muslim doubt muhammed of performing tawaf between safa and AL-marwah. Before this revelation was revealed to clear there doubt they understand the pagan practice it.

Why will Allah allow the pagan to hijack the manners of his worship?
Islam › Re: Do Qur'an Says Jesus Has Died?! Explanation Of The Word "Tawafii" by malvisguy212: 8:59pm On Apr 04, 2015
Albaqir.
Surah 5:75: The Messiah, son of
Marium is but a messenger;
messengers before him have
indeed passed away; and his mother
was a truthful woman; they both used
to eat food. See how We make the
communications clear to them, then
behold, how they are turned away.
(Shakir)
Surah 3:144: And Muhammad is no
more than a messenger; the
messengers have already passed
away before him; if then he dies or
is killed will you turn back upon your
heels? (Shakir)

The first Surah clearly states that all
MESSENGERS BEFORE JESUS HAD DIED A
fact that Muslims will not deny. And the
second Surah states that all messengers
before Muhammad have also passed
away in death. Islam teaches that no
prophet arose between JESUS AND
MUHAMMED. Thus, the immediate
messenger before Muhammad was
Jesus. In other word, All messengers including Jesus has died.

The wording in the verse of john the baptist and Jesus is the same, the simple question is ,DID JOHN THE BAPTIST DIED? Yes or no!!!

Where did you here christians say elijah did not die?in Matthew 17:1-3, “And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart, and was transfigured before them; and His face did shine as the sun and His raiment was white as the light. And behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with Him”.

Does the fact that Moses and Elias were
talking with our Lord prove that Moses
and Elias had not been dead, but alive in heaven? I believe that verse 9 gives us the answer to that question. “And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them saying, ‘Tell the VISION to no man….”. Peter, James and John did NOT SEE the persons of Moses and Elias, they saw a VISION,meaning they died.

The story of jonah is a forestshadowing event of what will happened to Jesus.

1.the three days Jonah spent in the belly of the whale is seen as foreshadowing Christ’s descent to hell.infacte In the Old Testament, the prophet himself(jonah) uses the language of hell to describe his misery in his plea to God in the belly of the whale.
2.just as Christ rose on the third day, so also Jonah was expelled from the belly of the whale three days later.
3.jonah spend 40 days in the wilderness wandering about and preaching for the coming doomdays. the 40 days
Jonah spent after his rescue from the
belly of the whale correspond to the 40
days Jesus spent preaching after His
resurrection from the dead.

Ask yourself,what did Jesus mean when he say no sign will be given to them unless the sign of jonah? The pagans in Nineveh accepts the word of God at FIRST PREACHING without jonah performing a sign. But the pharasses and scribe required sign to believe and even when the sign was given they still doubt.
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Die for Our Sin? Which Sin? Ifeann Should Please Come In by malvisguy212: 5:07pm On Apr 04, 2015
Empiree:
Malvis, pls dont expose your weak side to albaqir. Dont let him know you are robotic. This topic you brought was explained to you on another threads...remember I posted detailed explanation. You shut up afterward. I can't remember the thread but probably back in february. Me and 9jaforlife dealt with you on it yet you still brought it up. It will be a shame if baqir also come to same conclusion the way me and others did about you.

Remember, me, rilwayne001, lagoshia, tala9ja, 9jaforlife said the same thing about you?. Do you want baqir to come to that conclusion as well?. Please think. Thanks
keep on deceiving yourself. The hadith and quran proved everything.
Islam › Re: Do Qur'an Says Jesus Has Died?! Explanation Of The Word "Tawafii" by malvisguy212: 3:03pm On Apr 04, 2015
Albaqir I will still paste the question non of your brother have been able to answer.

The following Qur’anic verse records Jesus as saying:

Surah 19:33: Peace on me the day I
was born, and the day I die, and the
day I shall be raised alive! (Pickthall)

“There was peace on me the day I
was born, and will be the day I die,
and on the day I will be raised from
the dead.” (A. Ali)


Muslim scholars, who believe that Jesus
did not die, find themselves in a
dilemma at verses like the one provided
above. Knowing that the above testimony of Jesus in Surah 19:33 clearly proves that he died before his ascension to heaven, many Muslim apologists attempt to respond by saying that this is a future event. They try to explain away this Qur’anic verse by saying that Jesus will die when he comes back the second time and then be raised back to life. They say
this with no rhyme or reason except to
evade an obvious contradiction in the
Qur’an. Well, what evidence do they
provide to make such an outrageous
claim? None! But, this interpretation
poses a problem for Muslim scholars
because the very same phrase is also
expressed just a few verses earlier in the Qur’an regarding John the Baptist (Yahya) . We can read an almost identical passage about John the Baptist in Surah 19:15. Note the similarity in the wordings:


Surah 19:15: And peace on him on
the day he was born, and on the day
he dies, and on the day he is raised
to life. (Shakir)


What is the different between this verse that talk about the death of john? If Jesus did not die, then John did not die.
The chronological sequence of event is clearly understood and correctly applied here. Yet, in the case of Jesus, we find Muslims having Jesus ascending to God BEFORE dying. This is satanic manipulation.

And to the op, I will give you an example;


“die” is translated from the Arabic word,
“mutawaffika.” The term “mutawaffika” occurs over 25 times in the Qur’an, and in each case it refers to the death of someone. Especially enlightening is its usage in Surah 39:42:

“It is Allah that takes (mutawaffika)
the SOULS (of men) at DEATH; and
those that die not (He takes)
(m utawaffika) during their sleep:
those on whom He has passed the
decree of death.” (Yusuf Ali)

Thus, it is important to note that if Qur’an translators (like Yusuf Ali) prefer to use another phrase such as, “Thou didst take me up” (mutawaffika) instead of “Thou didst cause me to die” (mutawaffika) in their translations,
it means the same thing in the Arabic
Qur’an.
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Die for Our Sin? Which Sin? Ifeann Should Please Come In by malvisguy212: 2:36pm On Apr 04, 2015
AlBaqir:
Its obvious you did not understand the explanation.
Kindly re-read my reply perhaps you will grab the argument for the second reading. Try and read to understand first before you tender your criticism.
who do you think you are chatting with? Little boy?
1. Is the Arab pagan doing tawaf between safa and marwa? Yes
2.did the quran admits it was a pagan ritual? Yes.
3.did muhammed retained the practice? Yes.
This is not logic, this is simple as sterted in the quran.
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Die for Our Sin? Which Sin? Ifeann Should Please Come In by malvisguy212: 1:04pm On Apr 04, 2015
AlBaqir:
First, what you quoted is not an Hadith (i.e direct saying of Prophet of Islam). It is an Athar: companion's speech/thought.

Second, the companion Anas ibn Malik NEVER met the Pre-Islamic Period of age of ignorance. Anas was born after the advent of Islam.

Third, assuming someone among the older companions must have told him, the wording is clear “We used to consider (i.e. going around) them a custom of the PRE-ISLAMIC PERIOD OF IGNORANCE, so when Islam came, we gave up going around them.

Fourth, the historical establishment of "safa and marwa" was from the sincere act of Hajar, the wife of Prophet Ibrahim, when she run from one mountain (safa) to another (marwa) in search of water (of life) to quench the thirst of his dying son, Ismail, a Prophet of Allah.

Note that most of these companions were pagan before Islam. They do not know the original historic background of monotheism practice of "Safa and Marwa (in hajj) established by Prophet Ibrahim and his family" (as). And since, the pagan has taken over and "re-modified" the monotheistic practice of Ibrahim to Paganistic, the natural intention will always be what is expressed in the hadith by the sahaba^.

The advent of Islam put things back to their original state and practice as first established by Prophet Ibrahim (as). Therefore, Qur'an puts it:
"...‘Verily, Safa and Marwa (i.e. two mountains at Mecca) are among the SYMBOL OF ALLAH. So it is not harmful of those who perform the Hajj of the House (of Allah) or perform the Umra to ambulate (Tawaf) between them.’

In short, There is absolutely Nothing wrong with the "hadith" you quoted and the verse to "support" it. In fact, the verse clarifies.
first you said what I quote was not. Hadith but your last statement say there is nothing wrong with the hadith I quote,(confused)

The Islamic books (hadith and quran) I provide was clear,the facts that the pagan practice such before muhammed approved it for the worship of Allah debunked All you claimed.

How can the very same two mountains
that were sacred to the pagans become
the “SYMBOL OF ALLAH”all of a sudden?
Moreover, how is it that the very same
pagan ritual of running between the two
hills is also retained in Islam? In
addition, why was the Arab pagan ritual
of going around the Ka’ba seven times,
also retained in Islam?
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Die for Our Sin? Which Sin? Ifeann Should Please Come In by malvisguy212: 11:30am On Apr 04, 2015
AlBaqir:
The most effective criterion to discern Sahih (authentic) hadith from fabricated (Mawdoo) hadith is the Qur'an.
Any hadith that is not in harmony with the Quran is not from the Prophet of Islam (peace be upon him and his household).

Rilwayne001 has given you ample verses from the Quran to dispel that myth.
this hadith is in harmony with surah2:158, muhammed sanctioned pagan practice in ISLAM, he retained the way of worshipping pagan to ISLAM;


Sahih Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 60,
Number 23:
Narrated By ‘Asim bin Sulaiman: I
asked Anas bin Malik about Safa and
Marwa (i.e. two mountains at Mecca).
Anas replied, “We used to consider
(i.e. going around) them a custom
of the PRE-ISLAMIC PERIOD OF
IGNORANCE, so when Islam came, we
gave up going around them. Then
Allah revealed, ‘Verily, Safa and
Marwa (i.e. two mountains at
Mecca) are among the SYMBOL OF
ALLAH. So it is not harmful of those
who perform the Hajj of the House
(of Allah) or perform the Umra to
ambulate (Tawaf) between
them.’” ( Surah 2:158) [End of Quote]

Surah 2:158: “Lo! (the mountains) As-
Safa and Al-Marwah are among the
indications of Allah. It is therefore no
sin for him who is on pilgrimage to
the House (of Allah) or visiteth it, to
go around them ( AS THE PAGAN
CUSTOM IS ).” (Pickthall)
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Die for Our Sin? Which Sin? Ifeann Should Please Come In by malvisguy212: 11:14am On Apr 04, 2015
AlBaqir:
No, it is not. Muslim's claim has always been "no book of collection of hadith is free from error". Only the Qur'an we boast passionately to be free from error. Therefore, we use the Qur'an to verify the authenticity of the "books of hadith". This makes a lot of sense in the fact that "books of hadith" were written centuries after the demise of the Prophet of Islam; he or his companions never certify it.

Whatever in the "books of hadith" that is in harmony with the Qur'an is accepted. Whatever deviate from the theme of the Qur'an is rejected.
Muhammad will never contradict his Lord. Qur'an chap. 53 says: |1|By the star when it goes down, (or vanishes).

|2|Your companion (Muhammad SAW) has neither gone astray nor has erred.

|3|Nor does he speak of (his own) desire.

|4|It is only an Inspiration that is inspired.

|5|He has been taught by one mighty in power.
muhammed will never contradicts his lord yet satan inspired word contrary to Allah word in his revelation(satanic verse)
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Die for Our Sin? Which Sin? Ifeann Should Please Come In by malvisguy212: 11:08am On Apr 04, 2015
Ifeann:
Ok yazach let me ask u this..
I wont quote the bible so let me ask u from the quran. Why does allah claim to end isa's life... why kill isa?? Why is his death so important. .
Here is the quran passage.

And when Allah said: O Isa, I am going to terminate the period of your stay (on earth) (in Arabic, mutawafeeka) and cause you to ascend unto Me and purify you of those who disbelieve and make those who follow you above those who disbelieve to the day of resurrection; then to Me shall be your return, so l will decide between you concerning that in which you differed. Qur'an 3:55

(Jesus saying) I did not say to them aught save what Thou didst enjoin me with: That serve Allah, my Lord and your Lord, and I was a witness of them so long as I was among them, but when Thou didst cause me to die (Arabic- tawaffaytani), Thou wert the watcher over them, and Thou art witness of all things. Qur'an 5:117. *

The word “tawaffa” refers to physical death.

Some of. u Muslims believe that the term "cause thee to die" or terminate (in Arabic, mutawafeeka) need not refer to physical death as it can have other meanings. It can refer to God snatching the body of Jesus away physically to Himself.



The words "tawaffaytani" and "mutawafeeka" are forms of the Arabic word “tawaffa”.

The word mutawafeeka cannot possibly refer to God snatching Jesus' body physically without his experiencing physical death.

The verb in Arabic (mutawafeeka) is used in the Quran with only two meanings.

The word is used 23 times in the Quran and 21 out of the 23 times, it refers to physical death. Only two times, it refers to the separation of the soul from the body at the time of sleep and during both these times, the qualifying words like sleep or night would be in the verse.


Why did he kill isa
excellent post.
Islam › Re: Mohammed Was Mentioned In Bible And Bhuddist Scripture by malvisguy212: 8:56am On Apr 04, 2015
YourMain:
Well I Dont agree. I personally feel that there are some sins that should be easily forgiven. Not only in this physical world but also in the thereafter.

I'm curious, is it hard to understand the Bible, being that it is told from the perspective of like 12 different people?
the king James version was translated during the England medieval period, many of the Alexandrien manuscript is missing there because at that time the alexandran manuscript is not been discovered that is why we have the nkjv(the new king James version) the bible I used is the NIV and starnderd version, my battery is low, I enjoyed chating with you, this link may help http://ministerbook.com/topics/facts-about-bible/

When I recharged my battery hopefully we will continue.
Islam › Re: Mohammed Was Mentioned In Bible And Bhuddist Scripture by malvisguy212: 8:40am On Apr 04, 2015
YourMain:
Different deeds have different "weights" for example if I killed someone that is a bigger sin than listening to music or whatnot.

Actually Islam also states that every Muslim with an atom of belief in Allah will end up in Paradise. Its not a situation of. Yeah I'll believe in God and I'll go to heaven, because then theres no point of the reward then.

I Dont bribe him with my good deeds. Its a bit like Santa Claus really in my opinion

You're welcome?
in Christianity, all sin is are equal but I understand you very well, sinned is measures in our physical world.
In Matthew 5:21-28, Jesus equates committing adultery with having lust in your heart and committing murder with having hatred in your heart.
However, this does not mean the sins are equal. What Jesus was trying to get
across to the Pharisees is that sin is still
sin even if you only want to do the act,
without actually carrying it out.
Islam › Re: Mohammed Was Mentioned In Bible And Bhuddist Scripture by malvisguy212: 8:26am On Apr 04, 2015
YourMain:
Well Islam also says. If one were to be the perfect Muslim and prayed and fasted and did good deeds etc. They'd still only enter heaven by Allah's Mercy. And if a murderer happen to murder a 100 people and then seeks repentance the second before he dies. Allah will be merciful to him or her.

I think with that in perspective, it is a very good judge. I find it quite hard to believe that because I believe in Jesus I'll go to heaven no matter what.
the bible say love and worship God with all your MIND , if you believe in Jesus and still doing bad things, it mean you are not worshipping God with all your MIND

If you called the judge a good judge,it means you bribe him with your good deed.most of your explanation contradicts the teaching in the quran
Surah101:6-11
God says in the Quran that our deeds will
be measured or weighed, and whosoever
has more good deeds will enter the
Gardens of Paradise and whose evil
deeds weigh more than the good ones
will be entered into the Hell fire.

God does not have a scale on
which He places our good and bad deeds to determine if we are good enough to enter Heaven and escape Hell. Rather, as the apostle Paul says, our salvation is by faith, "it is the gift of God". Jesus Christ stated, "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (John 3:16)

Thank you.
Islam › Re: Mohammed Was Mentioned In Bible And Bhuddist Scripture by malvisguy212: 8:08am On Apr 04, 2015
YourMain:
Christianity is not a religion?

Mhm. Like what contradictions? All major religions have more or less the same beliefs. I think.
All religion teaches that salvation is attained by human effort"good work theology" if I can do enough,pray enough give enough perhaps,God will grant me external life.only Christianity teaches that God himself provide a way by which man can be saved.

Ephesian2:8 was saying, salvation is not by our doing(work) less any man should boast,it is the free gift of God in christ Jesus,God has already done everything for us, we just have to believe in his word (Jesus) and be saved.

ISLAM say if your good deed outweigh your bad deed, God will forgive you, think of our legal system, if someone killed your love one and he was arrested,on the day of judgment, he say to the judge" I have been doing good things more please have mercy,and the judge pardon him" will you called the judge a goog judge? Infacte many religion teaching contradicts the physical law of man.
Islam › Re: Mohammed Was Mentioned In Bible And Bhuddist Scripture by malvisguy212: 8:07am On Apr 04, 2015
Dp
Islam › Re: Mohammed Was Mentioned In Bible And Bhuddist Scripture by malvisguy212: 7:44am On Apr 04, 2015
YourMain:
There are similarities In every religion.
yes however , Christianity is Not A religion. Many religion teaching contradicts Christianity,it is either Christianity is wrong and all other religion are right or the other way round.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Does God Simply Exist? by malvisguy212: 7:39am On Apr 04, 2015
Akdegreat:
God exists, we don't rely on scientific evidence, we believe by faith.
A Creator God, if He exists, must, by definition, exist beyond the limits of the universe in order to have created it.
The laws of physics tell us that we cannot make measurements beyond the limits of this universe. Therefore, scientists can conclusively determine that we cannot ever detect God using any of our instruments.
However, God is not restricted to our limitations and could choose to reveal part of Himself to us. God could not reveal His entirety to us without causing
major problems in our universe because the bible say no man can see God and live.
https://www.nairaland.com/2135981/because-god-not-revealed-himself
Christianity Etc › Re: Bangladesh, Islamic Terror? by malvisguy212: 11:39pm On Apr 03, 2015
Joyful77:
B*ullshit! You should listen to your own advice!! undecided
https://www.nairaland.com/2092548/root-caused-islamic-terrorism

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