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musKeeto:
hahaha, so why are you against abortion? We would the kids a favor afterall.


Christian guy rapes innocent Muslim girl to death. Muslim girl goes to hell because she didn't believe Jesus is the son of God. Christian guy ask for forgiveness. Makes heaven. Checkmate atheists.

musKeeto:
The GOD you refer to in the Old Testament is/was the God of Israel. He revealed himself to the Israelites through Abraham, and marked them as His. They were his responsibility, thus if he wanted all of them dead for such heinous acts like [url=http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+35%3A2&version=ESV]working on the Sabbath[/url] or [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%2025:11-12]hitting a man's privates while trying to protect your husband[/url], it was within his rights to do that. No one would care.

The issue here is he didn't reveal himself to the other tribes. Just as he was a God to the Israelites, the Ammonites and other tribes had their own Gods whom they worshiped and served. I loved the parent-child analogy you used in the OP. How would you feel if your neighbor walked into your home, and smacked your kid and raped your daughters because they do not acknowledge him as their Father? As different fathers have different relationships and rules by which they guide their kids, so also the different Gods have their own rules and regulations. Wouldn't it be insane for a father to be jealous that other kids do not refer to him as Father?

I also detect hypocrisy in one of the verses...


Isn't this the same God that sanctioned this?


Of course, all this was done.....

herald9:
Firstly...how would these people have known the God of the Jews when this same God forbids them from interacting with them...calling them 'Gentiles' .Yet when these people did what seem right to them...he got angry and destroyed them with vengeance...What kind of a God is that?

Secondly,why would a god who claimed to have created everyone in his own image,favour some and discriminate against others...if you were the one will you still worship a god who doesn't care about you? Wouldn't you find solace in another place?

I don't know what kinda mentality the O.T god had...seems he was truly 'the most high'

johnydon22:
No please stop the learning thing, their is no amount of twisting and assertions that can change it... its inhumane if it ever even happened.. to even imagine and putting such thing down is wrong

johnydon22:
i will only comment on d noah stuff, who committed the worse crime, the one who did child sacrifice and the one who wiped all the children out with a horrible death such as drowning
we all know that the number of children who died in d flood are a thousand times more dan d ones supposedly killed by d so called child sacrifice... they didnt not even write in d bible dat they were even practising child sacrifice na u put dat one... pls bro stop trying to justify such holocaust its inhumane

johnydon22:
i will only comment on d noah stuff, who committed the worse crime, the one who did child sacrifice and the one who wiped all the children out with a horrible death such as drowning
we all know that the number of children who died in d flood are a thousand times more dan d ones supposedly killed by d so called child sacrifice... they didnt not even write in d bible dat they were even practising child sacrifice na u put dat one... pls bro stop trying to justify such holocaust its inhumane

Rilwayne001:
Bros, stop derailing abegg

He already ask you ro create a thread for whatever questions you will like to ask about The prophet (PBUH).


Kindly do that please.

AlBaqir:
This thread isn't about Muhammad (peace be on him and his household). So I see no reason to reply your defensive way of dodging a question that concern your faith. Its a free world. If you can't answer, you admit.

AlBaqir:
So what makes you believe in the claim of John that he was truly inspired by the holy spirit?

philfearon:
In your mind,you felt like you won a battle now right? Lol...
*******
Numbers 31: 17-18
17 Now therefore kill every male among the
little ones, and kill every woman that hath
known man by lying with him.
18 But all the women children, that have not
known a man by lying with him, keep alive for
yourselves.

johnydon22:
i was with some preachers today, they kept ringing on and on how jesus came to die for the sins of mankind so that mankind can be forgiven.
i asked them a simple question "why couldnt God just forgive mankind instead of murdering his son, i thought he was all powerful, all good and all merciful and loving. must he kill his son before forgiving

malvisguy212:
Bible record shows that at the very beginning of his ministry, Jesus
encountered a spirit creature who confronted him with the sole
intention of breaking his integrity. Jesus was destined to become the
cornerstone of the Christian faith and Satan wanted to destroy the
foundation upon which Christianity was to be built. However, Jesus
foiled the plans of Satan by not submitting to his crafty designs. And Satan fled. The full account of Jesus’ encounter with Satan can be read
at Matthew 4:1-11.


At the beginning of his calling as Allah’s messenger, Muhammad too
came into contact with a spirit creature in the cave of Hira. This
encounter terrified Muhammad. He became convinced that the spirit
creature was a demon. And Muhammad fled. However, he was later
led to believe that this spirit creature was an angelic messenger from
Allah – a medium to receive revelations from Allah. Was Muhammad deceived?
If the angelic messenger who spoke to Muhammad was truly sent by
God, then Muhammad is the first person in recorded history to
mistaken a “messenger of God” for a demon. According to his own
testimony, he at first thought that the angel was a demon, from whom
he ran and hid in fear. Muhammad only realized his “error” after his
wife – a business woman, who never saw or heard the supernatural messenger – convinced him otherwise.Muhammad thought he was possessed by a
demon, until his wife reassured him that he had become a prophet.
Through Khadijah’s persuasion, he came to believe that he had
received a divine mission from God.


The most important difference between the callings of God’s prophets
in the Bible and Muhammad’s calling is that there is not a single
incident in the Bible where someone confused the calling of God with
that of Satan. When God spoke, not one of those called by Him ever
said: “I wonder if this is from God or Satan?” In all cases, the calling of
God was so convincing, so conclusive and so authoritative that the recipients of the divine mission were immediately certain. There was
no question as to who originated the call. Neither was there a need for
the assurance of anyone else. The divine callings experienced by the
prophets of the true God were completely different from the one
experienced by Muhammad. Jesus Christ gave the following warning: Matthew 12:31: “Therefore I say unto you, every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the holy spirit shall not be forgiven.” One of the unforgivable sins against the Holy Spirit is to ascribe the works of God to Satan. Coming to Muhammad, we are left with two
options. One: Muhammad was wrong when he concluded that the calling of God was from Satan. Two: Muhammad was right when he concluded that the calling, which came through the angel, was from
Satan. If Muhammad was wrong when he interpreted the calling of God as coming from Satan, then he ensnared himself by ascribing the works of
God to the Devil. And by claiming that Islam is built on the foundation
of Judaism and Christianity, Muhammad placed himself under the
divine judgment of the Holy Bible. According to the divine laws of the
Holy Bible, he blasphemed against the Holy Spirit and thus committed
the unforgivable sin. However, if Muhammad was right and the angelic visitor was indeed from Satan, then a false religion began in
the cave that day – a religion inspired by none other than Satan
himself. Either option disqualifies Muhammad as a prophet of the true
God. And at the same instant, Islam is disqualified as the religion of the
true God.

Rilwayne001:
My dear friend malvisguy212, you are sighted. Thanks for your contribution, you can now go

Rilwayne001:
Ok, it good that 3 attemp arrived this evening, lets get down to business.

Note: No derailing








1) First of all the word of John can never supercede that of Jesus and God for if we are to go deep into this, you will come into the conclusion that John and other disciples were mere man who are bound to make mistakes, John should not be the one to teach such a powerful teaching that has to do the the bedrock of xtianity when jesus was actually around to do that.

How about about this, their are contradictions and errors in the bible (both NT and OT) **care to know? ask me** is the holyspirit the one inspiring that too?

2) Why is it that it is only in the books of John (NT) we are having the word 'only begotten son'?





Thanks for the response(s). We all know that if a son happens to be the only begotten son, it means that he is the first and last born and no other child from his parents. If that should be the case and Jesus is the only begotten son, please explain the verses below:

Exodus 4 v 22: And you shall say to Pharaoh, 'Thus says the Lord, Israel is my first-born son.

Psalm 2 v 7: The Lord hath said unto me, thou art my son, this day have I begotten thee.

Jeremiah 31 v 9: ,,, for I am a father to Israel and Ephraim is my first born.





I don't get you here sir, can you please reframe your reply



No paul please.

Please can you throw more light on the word 'begotten'



Please can you throw more light on the word 'begotten'

And let us not forget that Mary gave birth to Jesus, and you know mary was made too

sonOfLucifer:
I invite you to my other thread. https://www.nairaland.com/2022118/family-time-lucifer-bible-kids

AlBaqir:
@bold, How are you sure of that even every tom, dick and harry claim that to justify their wording?

Rilwayne001:
John 3 v 16: For God so love the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth in him will not persih but have everlasting life

QUESTIONS

1. Is the above statement spoken by John or God?

2. Is Jesus really the only begotten son of God?

3. Was Jesus 'begotten' or 'made' by God?

Thank you

cc: Francistony, malvisguy212, An2select, BosstTdiamond, Religionsection aka Ajibam and Co.

NOTE: There should be no derailing

AlfaSeltzer:
Deuteronomy 22:23-24

If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.

The bible encourages people to kill rape victims. It's immoral.

sonOfLucifer:
https://www.change.org/p/target-withdraw-the-holy-bible-this-sickening-book-encourages-readers-to-commit-sexual-violence-and-kill-women

It's a book that encourages readers to murder women for entertainment. The incentive is to commit sexual violence against women, then abuse or kill them to proceed or get 'god' points – and now Target are stocking it and promoting it for your Xmas stocking.

This is The Holy Bible. This book means that after various sex acts, readers are given options to kill women by stoning her unconscious, Setting them on fire, cutting off their hands, and killing their children!

One of many fan passages on In The Holy Bible depicts woman being set alight for having sex "And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the LovePeddler, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire." (Leviticus 21:9).

Thismisogynistic book literally makes a game of bashing, killing and horrific violence against women. It also links sexual arousal and violence.

Just knowing that women are being portrayed as deserving to be sexually used by men and potentially murdered for sport and pleasure – to see this violence turned into a form of entertainments is sickening and causes us great pain and harm.

This book spreads the idea that certain women exist as scapegoats for male violence. It shows hatred and contempt for women in the sex industry and puts them at greater risk. Women in the industry are 40 times more likely to be murdered by a man than any other group of women.

Books like this are grooming yet another generation of boys to tolerate violence against women. It is fuelling the epidemic of violence experienced by so many girls and women in Australia - and globally.

Target, you pride yourself on being a family company, caring for local communities, and have a strong ethical sourcing policy. How can you do this while contributing to hostile and callous attitudes toward victims of violence and, more broadly, to all women?

Please put ethics before profits and make a strong statement that you do not condone sexual violence, sexual exploitation or the abuse of women as ‘entertainment’.

ayo84:
“The Bible is a VERIFIED PLAGIARISM of ancient
Egyptian texts, namely the Book of the Dead, the
coffin Texts, the Pyramid Texts and the
heiroglyphs themselves. Nearly EVERYTHING in
Christianity can be traced back to ancient Egypt
including and especially the story of Jesus Christ.
The Book “Christ in Egypt: the horus-Jesus
Connection” uses nothing but the PRIMARY
sources that I’ve mentioned and details the Jesus
plagiarism and thousands of other parallels.
Educate yourself. READ IT.”
My question is the following — does anyone know
if the information is as claimed, verified, (or not)
and if so could you direct me to a website with
the viable information. Figured you advocates of
truth might know a thing or two about this.

Dapo777:
Guy you are So confused. Weren't you the one that asked me "how can you express your love for someone without trials" What does that imply? That I have to make someone go through trials to show that I love them. So I gave you an example, why didn't the father of that two year old girl express his love for her by making her go through trials in the hands of the baby sitter?
You would accept that the father doesn't love the toddler That's why he didn't allow his daughter to go through trials. According to ur flawed And brainwashed reasoning. Someone must put a loved one in trial to show his love.

How many times have you put the people you love under trial to show that you love them?

Dapo777:
The father of the two year old daughter that got tortured by the baby sitter,why can't the father express his love for his daughter by making his daughter go through trials by the baby sitter? Why didn't the father give the nanny complete freewill,the option to chose not to torture his daughter or to torture his daughter

I wonder how you reason in real life. Maybe you just act dumb on nairaland to defend sky daddy.

Rilwayne001:
Have a nice day

Rilwayne001:
Don't quote the book of hebrew for me

You know i got nothing ti do with paul...