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frosbel2:
Well what do you call it if not blatant contradictions ?? Oh lets, see, you need the spirit to understand the contradictions -

Hogwash

malvisguy212:
I see no sense in your post, what do you mean by "faith lead to the death of christians?" on many occasions, atheists have liken faith as something you have NO knowledge of, but here you are saying different thing. The christian faith is not opposed to reason and knowledge because God invite us to reason together with Him.the fact that every human has freewill and God will not override our choice, mean everyone of us is responsible for our belief. You cannot force your self to believe in lies. innately you know it lie.

malvisguy212:
Another reason for rejecting God (choosing
atheism), is a willing acceptance of satanic
deception. The angel Lucifer (“luminous one”) fell and became Satan (“adversary”) due to his desire to supplant God. This was Lucifer’s single, minded obsession. He not only rejected God by attempting to supplant Him, but he urged humans to do likewise. Satan urged Eve to choose against God for her own self-fulfilment:

Genesis 3:1-5
He said to the woman, “Did God actually say,
‘You shall not eat of any tree in the garden’?”
And the woman said to the serpent, “We may
eat of the fruit of the trees in the garden, but
God said, ‘You shall not eat of the fruit of the
tree that is in the midst of the garden, neither
shall you touch it, lest you die.’” But the serpent said to the woman, “You will not surely die. For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

Let us analyze this verses:

The tactic is clear: firstly, question God’s
statements, then, contradict God’s statements
and, finally, urge rebellion in seeking equality
with God.

This manifest in atheists as :

1.Questioning whether there is a God to make
statements in the first place, so God did not say anything.
2. Contradicting the statements said to have
been spoken by God.
3. Seeking equality with God by replacing God
with the self.

This satanic deception appeals strongly to
atheists as it bolsters two of their desired
delusions: 1) absolute autonomy being free to
do as they please, and 2) the lack of ultimate
accountability,there are no eternal
consequences for doing as they please.

When asked “What is the Church of Satan?”
Gilmore replies:

“Satanism begins with atheism. We begin with
the universe and say, “It’s indifferent. There’s no
God, there’s no Devil. No one cares!” So you
then have to make a decision that places
yourself at the center of your own subjective
universe, because of course we can’t have any
kind of objective contact with everything that
exists. That’s rather arrogant and delusional,
people who try to put things that way. So by
making yourself the primary value in your life,
you’re your own God. By being your own God,
you are comfortable about making your own
decisions about what to value. What’s positive to
you, is good. What harms you, is evil. You
extend it to things that you cherish and the
people that you cherish. So it’s actually very
easy to see that it’s a self-centered
philosophy.But it also requires responsibility,
since you are taking on for yourself the
complete onus for your personal success or
failure. You can’t be praying to a God or blaming
a devil, or anyone else, for that matter, for what
happens to you. It’s on your own head. That’s a
challenge for most people. Most people tend to
really feel that they want some kind of external
support, that they are outward looking and
might want some sort of supernatural parental
figure, or even some sort of existing
governmental authority, existing in their life.”

https://en.m.wikinews.org/wiki/Satanism:_An_interview_with_Church_of_Satan_High_Priest_Peter_Gilmore

alBHAGDADI:
Look at the statement from one of those telling people to stop paying tithe.

frosbel2:
Where in the bible is there a reference to this your "contextual" or "allegory" concept as it pertains to these statements ?

frosbel2:
^^^^

Passport to lawlessness.

Do all you evil you can and repent on your death bed, Jesus the advocate will take care of things for you

Trust me Pal, I am used to all the Christian permutations for salvation - its a joke. They are contradictory to one another.

That's why some of the worse sinners can be found in Christendom.

Here is another one for you ;

There are two Men

Man 1 - Cheats, lies, murders and steals - on his death bed he asks for forgiveness in the name of Jesus
Destination - Paradise

Man 2 - Does not cheat, lie, murder or steal - on his death bed he does not ask for forgiveness in Jesus name
Destination - Hell Fire


You guys are Jokers.

Uyi168:
My thoughts exactly...

malvisguy212:
if two grown up men are drinking beer in a joint, one a backsliding Christian and the other is someone who had never heard the gospel. if I may ask, who will fill guilty ? the Christian or the other one who had never heard the Gospel? much is expected from the Christian. now read this verses:

Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the mighty deeds done in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. But I tell you, on the day of judgment it will be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon than for you. And you, Capernaum, will you be exalted to heaven? No, you will be brought down to Hades. For if the mighty deeds done in you had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day. But I tell you that on the day of judgment it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom than for you (Matthew 11:21-24 ).

The Scriptural truth is that to whom much has been given, much will be required.

Luke 12:48
But the one who did not know it, and committed deeds worthy of a flogging, will receive but few. And from everyone who has been given much shall much be required; and to whom they entrusted much, of him they will ask all the more

Uyi168:
My thoughts exactly...

frosbel2:
I don't know - you tell me

HellVictorinho:
Don't mind such hypocrites.
They call you stupid for rejecting their proposition but expect you to call them smart for rejecting yours.

XxSabrinaxX:
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How does lack of belief in something bestow you the burden of providing evidence? Lol. Atheists have nothing to prove. Absence of evidence is evidence of absence. What kind of dumbass logic are you working on?
If I claimed to have a flying dog in my house. Its up to me to prove my claim; and not up to you to prove that the dog doesn't exist.
Like I said, leave me alone. I'm in one of those moods today. Don't let your ignorance open your arse in this thread. I can see you have no clue how these kind of arguments work.
P.S Stop generalizing. Not all atheists are 100% sure of God's non-existence. Sure there are some. But there are also those who just find theism less illogical and full of sh!t claims that have no evidence to back them up

XxSabrinaxX:
Point of correction. Atheists only problem is with the lack of evidence of the claims of religious people. Thus, we "reject' religion. We don't offer alternatives for the source of the universe. We look at the more logical options because they are more likely to be true. It seems you have an issue with cosmologists and not atheists. So leave me alone

Michellekabod1:
Christians nko that do those things, heaven or hell?

XxSabrinaxX:
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Excuse me, did you say "activities of your brain"? ROFLMAO
Bitch please, your skull is an empty wasteland. If i look into your eyes, i'll see straight to the back of your head.
Get a life with your dumbass

frosbel2:
2000 years ago and we are still here -

OpenYourEyes1:
You kids are too brainwashed.
The gospel of Jesus Christ is going nowhere until the word of God is fulfilled. Atheism has been with us for thousands of years yet it is still not the dominant belief . It is for shallow minded people.

Christians will eventually suffer persecution- this is sure. Many will abandon God for new age religion. . They will be transformed by their chosen satanic system. The word of God will definitely be banned. Before they realized the truth It will be too late. They will run up and down seeking for God's Word but won't find it.


You little minded folks have no idea what is coming.
Your obsession with Christianity is suspicious.

frosbel2:
What is faith ?

"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen " - Hebrews 11:1

Literally , this means faith is equal to walking BLINDLY and HOPING that your belief is right . No evidence , just some book written by an anonymous author 2000 years ago - a book that was withheld from your ancestors for over a 1000 years - so much for Love.

sukerefakere:
your ignorance can be forgiven but please let it just die with you

No offence intended

frosbel2:
I am not an atheist Sir !

frosbel2:
True, but there are many people who we would classify as righteous and who really fear God but they are in the wrong religion, or sect or may even be irreligious. Does something so straightforward as finding our maker have to be littered with such chaos and confusion ?

johnydon22:
You still have no idea whom the post is addressing. Jesus Christ! Read the damn thing.

johnydon22:
. I'm not sure you know the people I'm criticising.

Either you didn't read it or you did and like most idiots didn't understand it

johnydon22:
It is wrong..

https://www.nairaland.com/4859228/abortion-morally-permissible

johnydon22:
I am an atheist and I don't support abortion

Michellekabod:
NO

Michellekabod:
Mr commenter/uppercase typist, i am aware of the theists opinion on the issue of abortion which is no, that is why i inquired on the atheists opinion.
My intentions are never to judge or rate any human on the globe concerning the issue of abortion

nwabekeyi:
I don't believe things without evidences

nwabekeyi:
this is also what the Bible told you. It doesn't meant its the truth

nwabekeyi:
the Bible is God's side of the story, it could be full of bias

nwabekeyi:
If I am going to believe in the stories if the Bible then I may have to hear Satan's side of the story. All these while, Christians has been telling us what God said, nobody want to hear what the Satan has to say about the quarrel he had with God.

I think it's fair to always hear the story from both sides before making conclusions.

After all, according to the Bible, If not for the Satan we will still be raoming a garden, all naked and stupid.

This whole thing seem like a Quarrel between Satan and God, let's hear from both sides. That is simply what "Fairness" is.

cleanvessel:
Thanks my brother.
Quite a long time.
.....truthman