Christianity Etc › Re: What's The Difference Between Grace And Mercy? by malvisguy212: 9:44am On Mar 11, 2018 |
Grace focuses upon all that God gives to the which the sinner does not deserve [such as eternal life, forgiveness of sins, peace with God, etc.]. Mercy focuses upon all that God does not give to the miserable sinner which he does deserve [such as God’s wrath, punishment, eternal death, hell, sinneretc.]. God is gracious to the believing sinner in freely giving to Him the gift of Christ and all that comes with the gift of His Son (Romans 8:32), all of which he does not deserve. God is merciful to the believing sinner in that He has withheld His judgment and wrath upon him, all of which the sinner justly deserves. |
Christianity Etc › Re: God Is Love, The Innocent Wouldn't Suffer. by malvisguy212(op): 7:42am On Mar 04, 2018 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do You Call Me Good? Analyze. by malvisguy212(op): 9:02am On Feb 21, 2018 |
malvisguy212: 1. Jesus has two natures, He is God
and man.
2. Each nature is full and complete ,
He is fully God and fully man.
3. Each nature remains distinct.
4. Christ is only one Person.
5. Things that are true of only one
nature are nonetheless true of the
Person of Christ.
Jesus is a man. A man who was possessed by God. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Faith,belief,reason And Truth. by malvisguy212(op): 8:38am On Feb 21, 2018 |
malvisguy212: sorry for the late reply, I am very busy.
Isaiah 1:18, "Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD." The Lord encourages Christians to think and to reason together. The Bible is full of common sense and wisdom. It has been demonstrated to be correct through practice, time, archeology discoveries, and scientific facts. It is not a leap into the unknown, but a leap based upon common sense and facts.
Of all the religions you mention, which among them put their teaching to a litmus test? Proved what they preach is the truth. God do not just we should believe, He want us to use our mind and be FULLY convinced of what we believe, the bible say faith alone cannot guarantee salvation, why ?because God want us to be sure of what we believe. You are an atheist,right? Let me ask you, is doubt the opposite of faith? |
Christianity Etc › Re: How Satan Has Deceived The Atheists by malvisguy212(op): 8:31am On Feb 21, 2018 |
malvisguy212: deny it or not, The satanic kingdom acknowledged atheists as there brothers, that's the point. Your opinion doesn't count. |
Christianity Etc › Re: How Atheist See The Future Vs How Christians See It by malvisguy212: 8:28am On Feb 21, 2018 |
kevoh: Christians also claim in Revelation that stars will fall from the sky to the earth! How is this possible according to the law of physics and common sense? One star is big enough and filled with much gas to wipe off earth before it even comes close to earth, how is it possible that so many of them will fall to Earth according to Christian point of view? malvisguy212: 2.Revelation 6:13-14 is talking about an Event YET to come,and as such cannot be proven or disprove by science. To say the book describe something that is impossible, is to say the event has happen. Secondly, the bible make it clear, john don't understand what he was seeing, He was only instructed to write what he see. Thirdly. The Greek word, astayr, besides being translated "star" can also have the meaning "comet," "meteor" or "asteroid", since there is no Greek word having this meaning. Even our English language refers to meteorites as "falling stars." The description of the "star" Wormwood seems to be that of a large meteorite or comets kevoh: Christians also claim in Revelation that stars will fall from the sky to the earth! How is this possible according to the law of physics and common sense? One star is big enough and filled with much gas to wipe off earth before it even comes close to earth, how is it possible that so many of them will fall to Earth according to Christian point of view? |
Christianity Etc › Re: How Atheist See The Future Vs How Christians See It by malvisguy212: 7:26am On Feb 21, 2018 |
2.Revelation 6:13-14 is talking about an Event YET to come,and as such cannot be proven or disprove by science. To say the book describe something that is impossible, is to say the event has happen. Secondly, the bible make it clear, john don't understand what he was seeing, He was only instructed to write what he see. Thirdly. The Greek word, astayr, besides being translated "star" can also have the meaning "comet," "meteor" or "asteroid", since there is no Greek word having this meaning. Even our English language refers to meteorites as "falling stars." The description of the "star" Wormwood seems to be that of a large meteorite or comets |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Two Gods Of Islam. by malvisguy212(op): 9:57am On Feb 06, 2018 |
malvisguy212: long time bro, good to know you are alright . we are not waiting for response from our Muslims friends, but insult.....everyday, we see Muslims proven this to be true, Insult Allah and you go Scott free, but insult Muhammad and you pay with your life. |
Celebrities › Re: Toolz Criticizes Davido's 30 Billion Concert by malvisguy212: 9:26am On Dec 28, 2017 |
v4victor: Abeg make she sharap there! All these yeyebrities must chook mouth into every burning issue just to remain relevant. Well, her opinion is considered irrelevant, hence, rendered null and void! if it it is 10% tithe , all you people Will insult the pastor....... a generation without God. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by malvisguy212(op): 7:38am On Dec 24, 2017 |
malvisguy212: There are many people who seems to disagree with the celebration of Christmas. Jehovah's Witnesses, teach that it is a sin to observe Christmas at all. Is it a sin to celebrate Jesus' birthday?. Yes, Christmas is not mentioned in the Bible. There is NO command for believers to observe or celebrate Jesus' birthday. It is a matter of PERSONAL CHOICE . I think it is acceptable to observe Christmas; or not to observe Christmas. I think it is not a sin to celebrate Christmas to a degree, anymore than it would be sinful to celebrate the birthday of a family member. I think it is appropriate to celebrate the Lord's birthday for those who choose to do so.
This lead us to many questions such as : Jesus was not born in December? What about the pagan origin? Santa clause, e.t.c First, a person who was born on February 29 (leap year) only celebrate his birthday after 4 years, is it sinful to chose another day to celebrate it ? I personally do not think so. Likewise, I see no harm in celebrating Jesus' birthday on December 25th,even if His actual birthday rests in a different month and date.I think it is a wonderful thing to celebrate the birth of the Savior, God's gift to mankind.
Doesn't Christmas has pagan origin ? So does the names of the week, if your birthday fall in Saturday (Saturn) will you celebrate it as a devoted christian because Saturn is one of the pagan gods? The truth is that Christians today celebrate the holiday in an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT MANNER. There are many wonderful Gospel hymns which have been written to worship Jesus at Christmas time; such as, Silent Night, Hark The Herald Angels Sing, Oh Little Town Of Bethlehem, Joy To The World. I think it would be a mistake to overlook Christmas entirely, and miss out on the opportunity to witness to the lost during the emotional Christmas season. Many hearts have been turned to the Lord during the Christmas holiday , is it sinful to present track to the lost ?No evidence exists that the Christian leaders who began this practice consciously wanted to compromise with paganism.
In conclusion, there are two ways in celebrating Christmas; Conclusion 1. The Worldly Way : Santa Claus, the north pole, elves, , secular songs about Christmas, booze, parties, Rock music,et cetera. 2. The Christian Way: Jesus Christ, Christmas carols, soulwinning, a nativity scene, helping the poor in Jesus' name, et cetera.
Romans 14:5-6 One man regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. LET EACH MAN BE FULLY CONVINCED IN HIS OWN MIND . HE WHO OBSERVES THE DAY OBSERVES IT FOR THE LORD , and he who eats, does so for the Lord, FOR HE GIVES THANKS TO GOD ; and he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and GIVES THANKS TO GOD .
HAPPY CHRISTMAS. d |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Allah Curse Muhammad ? by malvisguy212(op): 3:24pm On Dec 23, 2017 |
[quote author=Braaad post=u63542797]So what is your point in all this?? Are you insinuating that Muhammad (S.A.W) fabricated a lie about his revelations that was why Allah killed him the way he promised?[/quote]read the op very well. |
Christianity Etc › Did Allah Curse Muhammad ? by malvisguy212(op): 2:12pm On Dec 23, 2017 |
How did Muhammad die? The answer can be found in early Islamic sources.Islamic sources testify that Muhammad died an agonizing death as a result of Allah’s curse on him. Islamic sources confirm that Muhammad was executed by Allah. If you as a Muslim find this unbelievable, we encourage you to read this article carefully. Your salvation may depend on it.
Sunan Abu Dawud, Volume 5, Hadith 4512: “A Jewish woman in Khaibar gave him a roasted sheep that she had poisoned, and the Messenger of Allah ate from it, as did the people. He said: ‘Lift up your hands (meaning, stop eating), for it has told me that it is poisoned. Bishr bin A1-Barã’ bin Ma’rur AlAnsãrI died (of that poison), and he sent word to the Jewish woman: asking: ‘What made you do what you did?’ She said: If you were a Prophet it would not harm you, and if you were a king the people would have been rid of you.’ The Messenger of Allah ordered that she be killed, then he said during his final illness: ‘I continued to feel pain because of the morsel I ate at Khaibar, BUT NOW IT HAS CUT OFF MY AORTA.” (Hasan )
It is important for Muslims to take careful note of the words of Muhammad. He said: “I continued to feel pain because of the morsel that I ate at Khaibar, but now it has cut off my aorta.” The aorta is also known as the life artery .
Let us now examine another Hadith. Umm Mubashshir was the mother of Bishr who died shortly after eating the poisonous meat at Khaibar with Muhammad. When Muhammad was sick and dying, Umm Mubashshir visited him and asked: “O Messenger of Allah, what do you think is the cause of your illness?” Take careful note of Muhammad’s reply.
Sunan Abu Dawud, Volume 5, Hadith 4513: Umm Mubashshir said to the Prophet during his final illness: ‘O Messenger of Allah, what do you think is the cause of your illness? I cannot think of anything that caused my son’s illness except the poisoned sheep that he ate with you at Khaibar.’ The Prophet said: And I do not think that there is anything wrong with me except that, and now it has cut off my aorta.’” (Sahih )
Once again Muhammad testified that his aorta has been cut off by the poison he ate at Khaibar . Thus, he repeatedly confirmed that he is dying because of the effects of that poison.
The startling fact is that Muhammad died exactly the way Allah said he would kill him if he fabricated a lie. Lets read the Qur’anic verses:
Surah 69:44-46: And if Muhammad had made up about Us some false sayings, We would have seized him by the right hand; Then We would have cut from him the aorta. (Sahih International)
The above Qur’anic verse need no explanation. Its meaning is crystal clear. Anyone reading these verse can easily understand them. The only ones who will not understand the clear meaning of these Qur’anic verses are the Muslims. From infancy the Muslim mind has been preconditioned not to see any evidences which discriminates their Prophet. not even if these evidences originate from their own sources. What did Allah say he will do to Muhammad if he fabricates a false revelation?
“We would cut off his aorta.”
And what did Muhammad say that the poison did to him?
“It has cut off my aorta.”
Can anything be more clearer than this? The Qur’an clearly states that Allah will execute Muhammad by cutting off his aorta if he fabricates a false revelation. And as Muhammad was nearing death, he repeatedly admitted:
“At this very moment I feel my aorta being severed because of the food I ate at Khaibar.”
He died exactly in the manner prescribed in the Qur’an if he fabricates a false revelation.there are hundred way ,Allah could have chosen another way and not this. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Nigerian Man Curses Those Against Tithing After Receiving Envelope From Pastor by malvisguy212: 9:17am On Dec 22, 2017 |
Goshen360: Listen to yourself brother.....yes Jesus didn't condemn it TO WHO? Off course to THOSE PRACTISING IT WHO ARE UNDER THE LAW THEN....including law of tithing. Btw, again when did SCRIBES AND PHARISEES become examples to CHRISTIANS? Are you still under the law?
2. I do call those who tithe as sinners BUT on the contrary it is tithers that call non tithers sinners for not tithing.
3. Real message behind tithe? Please teach me something new please.....I'm waiting Jesus did not call those who tithe sinner and as a Christians we shouldn't. most of Jesus parables is about money, and humans are naturally greedy. the Bible say were your heart lies that's were your treasure is. as a man who is naturally greedy, if you see 10% in your income as to big to give, its show that your heart is tied on your money and not God......you may claimed that you love God more than your money, but what about your neighborh? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Daddy Freeze Christmas Message - Christ Wasn't Born In Your Village Or On 25th by malvisguy212: 7:25pm On Dec 21, 2017 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by malvisguy212: 9:33am On Dec 21, 2017 |
dalaman: These are dubious bible versions that sort to change the true meaning because the translators DO NOT like what the original message says and chose to change it to give it their own acceptable meaning. That is why there are DIFFERENT English translations of the bible each carrying the agenda of the publisher. That is a know FACT. There is a very different meaning between disaster and evil. Filled with sorrow is different from repenting. Which is the actual translation of the verse?
I am.always very careful before I throw bible verses at people.
The JPS which the Jews consider as the most accurate English translation of the Hebrew Bible translates the verse as follows :
JPS Tanakh 1917 "If ye will still abide in this land, then will I build you, and not pull you down, and I will plant you, and not pluck you up; for I repent Me of the evil that I have done unto you".
This is from the JPS which the Jews consider as the most accurate English translation of the Hebrew Bible. The verse speaks for itself. It says I repent for the evil i've done unto you.
Diffrent Bible translators found it unpalatable and decided to spin it and give it their own meaning from saying am sorry for the punishment, to am sorry for the disaster that I sent. Punishment and disasters do not mean evil. This is another evidence that your God is a man made entity, his words and everything he says or does has to be done by man with his different agenda. Men will write down the words and others with totally different agendas will come and translate it for other men. Same men will then go and speared this word. Your God never does anything for himself. It's men that do everything for it, yet it exist . Your sorry of an OP is trying to establish the existence of a God using some beer palor gimmicks.
You think if A God exist it will rely on you and your beer palor gimmicks to prove it's existence to atheist? You remaina huge and empty joke. you used the king James translations for your argument but when the op reply you,you criticized the same Translation you used. God is not the author of evil. However, God does reward and punish on the basis of good and bad behavior. Therefore, God does bring judgment and calamity (either directly or through human authorities) on those who rebel. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Nigerian Man Curses Those Against Tithing After Receiving Envelope From Pastor by malvisguy212: 8:11am On Dec 21, 2017 |
PaChukwudi44: Where did you get this trash from? Both tithing and animal sacrifices were part of the law and has been done away with. When Jesus made that statement in Matthew 23:23 the law was still active. Likewise when Jesus was born animal sacrifices were offered on accordance with the law.
Jesus's death on the cross ended the law and everything that got to do with it I wish you see the deception in your post. did you mean Jesus never preach or teach what He came to fullfilled ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Nigerian Man Curses Those Against Tithing After Receiving Envelope From Pastor by malvisguy212: 8:03am On Dec 21, 2017 |
Goshen360: Never argued it wasn't Jesus speaking.....scribes and PHARISEES are the ones practicing the tithe here and these are the ones Jesus talking to NOT you AS CHRISTIANS and not his disciples nor Apostles bro, if tithe is wrong, Jesus would have condemned the Pharisees not to tithe . my argument against you guys is that you should not call those who tithe as sinners do you even know the real message behind tithe? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Nigerian Man Curses Those Against Tithing After Receiving Envelope From Pastor by malvisguy212: 8:23pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
bloodofthelamb: Did you not see of "THE LAW" in Christ statement above... Tithing is not of grace, but of the law.
By the law shall no soul be justified. what did Jesus mean by this"YOU SHOULD HAVE PRACTICE THE LATTER WITHOUT NEGLECTING THE FORMER." There are many practices in the Old Testament that don't make sense to us today, yet many of these ancient ways carry over to the New Testament law of grace as part of Christ's promise to not abolish the law, but to fulfill it (Matthew 5:17 ). For instance we no longer sacrifice animals but as believers we are called to offer ourselves up as a living sacrifice (Rom 12:1 ). Men no longer are required to be circumcised, but we all have a circumcision of the heart through the Holy Spirit (Rom 2:29 ). yes, we are under grace, but we must not forget the purpose of grace ,to help us live for God. Romans 8:4 tells us that Jesus came that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, not so that we could altogether dismiss it. And Romans 3:21-31 talks about how we have righteousness through faith and not through following the law, but verse 31 adds "Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law." God Grace gives us the power to uphold the law. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Nigerian Man Curses Those Against Tithing After Receiving Envelope From Pastor by malvisguy212: 7:19pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Nigerian Man Curses Those Against Tithing After Receiving Envelope From Pastor by malvisguy212: 7:15pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
Goshen360: When did SCRIBES AND PHARISEES become example TO YOU as a CHRISTIAN? Matthew 23:23 (NIV) “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. YOU SHOULD HAVE PRACTICE THE LATTER WITHOUT NEGLECTING THE FORMER. this is not the scribe speaking, this is our Lord speaking,this verse is self explanatory. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Nigerian Man Curses Those Against Tithing After Receiving Envelope From Pastor by malvisguy212: 5:37pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
one thing for sure, the Bible does not condemned tithe , as a matter of fact, Matthew 23:23 support tithe strongly. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Daddy Freeze Condemns Majek Fashek Performance At COZA Church Christmas Concert by malvisguy212: 10:48am On Dec 19, 2017 |
cummando: True talk even though he is somehow right,we should not forget the real message of Christmas, to celebrate Christ with everyone. I am very sure Daddy frez will also criticized Jesus for dinning with the pharisees |
Christianity Etc › Re: I Prophesied That Jerusalem Will Become Israel’s Capital In 2017 – Apst.suleman by malvisguy212: 9:10am On Dec 18, 2017 |
that bible prophecy |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Ground Do You Specifically Stand On As A [true/false] Christian? by malvisguy212: 1:32am On Dec 17, 2017 |
Some want to be counted in, but not to be counted on .who is a true Christian? according to dictionary definition of Christianity: a Christian is “a believer in Christianity; of, pertaining to, or professing belief in Christianity; relating to Christianity or its adherents.” If this definition alone were true, then Satan the devil is a Christian, because we read in James 2:19, “Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.” Does Satan the devil believe in Jesus Christ? Indeed he does, so much so that he trembles at the thought! But that does not make him a Christian. More than mere belief is required. Faith without works is dead, says the Lord’s brother James (James 2:17–19). Sad to say, no one is a Christian just because he goes to church, any more than one is a mechanic just because he goes to a garage. Satan the devil is perfectly willing to have a person “confess” Christianity…as long as he does not practice it. Satan is never too busy to rock the cradle of a sleeping Christian. An idle Christian is the raw material of which backsliders are made. In a very real sense, Christianity is a test of endurance. Christ said that he who endures to the end shall be saved (Matthew 24:13), |
Christianity Etc › Re: How True Is It That He Died For My Sins? by malvisguy212: 9:36pm On Dec 16, 2017 |
nairanigger: Okay recently I was made to understand that Jesus Christ whom we all claim to be a Messiah that supposedly died for our sins didn't even want to die........maybe the human in him sha.
He prayed to God to save him and in the long run while on the cross of calvary, he claimed his father, God, had forsaken him.
Can anybody explain to me how I'm suppose to believe he died for my sins when he didn't die willingly and even the God he came from forsook him..........If God cannot answer the prayer of a being like Jesus, how can I be convinced that he has been answering mine?
Just thinking......... "But Jesus answered them, saying, "The hour has come that the Son of Man should be glorified. Most assuredly, I say to you, unless a grain of wheat falls into the ground and dies, it remains alone; but if it dies, it produces much grain " John 12:23-24 Jesus did not look forward to doing what was necessary. "Now My soul is troubled, and what shall I say? 'Father, save Me from this hour'? But for this purpose I came to this hour " (John 12:27 ). Notice that Jesus did not like what he had to face, but he willingly chose to do it because that was what as needed. "As the Father knows Me, even so I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep. ... Therefore My Father loves Me, because I lay down My life that I may take it again. No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This command I have received from My Father " (John 10:15-17 -18). Jesus was commanded by the Father to sacrifice himself in order to save mankind from their sins. No one forced Jesus to obey that command, including the Father. |
Christianity Etc › Re: God Does Not Need Jesus To Forgive SIN by malvisguy212: 2:29pm On Dec 16, 2017 |
frosbel2: 2 Samuel 12:13 - Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the LORD." And Nathan said to David, "The LORD also has taken away your sin; you shall not die.
Psalm 32:5 - I acknowledged my sin to You, And my iniquity I did not hide; I said, "I will confess my transgressions to the LORD"; And You forgave the guilt of my sin. Selah. your understanding of scripture is weak, 1cor 15:14 and if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith. in the old testament,the prophecy of Jesus dying for the forgiveness of sin has not been fullfilled...............you used old testament verses to support your lies, but if I used old testament verses to support tithe,you will be the first to criticized me |
Christianity Etc › Re: Salvation: A Gift, By Works, Or Both by malvisguy212: 9:53am On Dec 14, 2017 |
Alexanderobi: pls i am often confused when the bible says salvation is a gift not of works lest any man should boast. pls help cus i have seen people who say they are already saved despite their sinful wayr do you think that because you have work ,God own you something ? you deserve reward? you deserved wages for your work? the only wages you deserve is death. In Romans 4:5 we have a description of the person who is justified freely by God’s grace: "But to him that worketh not , but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness." Notice that he is the person THAT DOES NOT WORK! He does not work at all! He is not trusting or counting on anything that he has done. He realizes that there is not one thing that he has ever done that could earn one drop of favor or approval or acceptance before a holy God! He does not work! What then does he do? He believes! He believes on the God who justifies freely by His grace! We must not miss the significance of Romans 4:5, "that worketh not, but believeth ." This tells us very clearly that faith is not a work. This person does not work but he believes. Faith is not a work. Rather, faith is resting upon the work of Another. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Guess What I Noticed About Nigerian Churches by malvisguy212: 9:30am On Dec 14, 2017 |
efepro: Ghana and South Korea had their independence same day and year, but look at where South Korea is today. South Korea is a Buddhist nation that don't TITHE. all religion teaches truth , but not all are consistant with God truth. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Guess What I Noticed About Nigerian Churches by malvisguy212: 9:23am On Dec 14, 2017 |
efepro: The gullible and brainwashed would say, "is it your money", "I tithe, it works for me" "I tithe, come and beat me" .....
Ghana and South Korea had their independence same day and year, but look at where South Korea is today. South Korea is a Buddhist nation that don't TITHE.
Religion and Ethnicity are Africa biggest setback. The West are inventing & celebrating discoveries, while we are still talking about tithe.
Thanks To Daddy Freeze for his campaign to break mental chains holding us back. it is not a compulsory to tithe. Matthew 23:23 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. YOU SHOULD HAVE PRACTICE THE LATTER, WITHOUT NEGLECTING THE FORMER . this verse is self explanatory,did Jesus dismissed the issue of tithe here? you guys problems here is Bible illiteracy. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Beautiful Girl Converted To Christianity (pics) by malvisguy212: 6:29pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
Jesus has fullfilled the law for her. thus,she is saved by Grace. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Will Of God - Donald J. Trump by malvisguy212: 2:15pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
JackBizzle: A corrupt person is better than a madman after reading the op,this is what you can say ? you are a bias atheist |
Christianity Etc › Re: Leke Adeboye Thanks Daddy Freeze Over Increase In RCCG Tithes (Photo) by malvisguy212: 10:34am On Dec 11, 2017 |
onatisi: the truth is tithing is biblical it is mandatory but what daddy fresh is saying is that these men of God collect all these tithes and and only make life comfortable for themselves and families while many around them beg for crumbs and live in poverty alright,Those who express this concern reveal two potential problems that need to be addressed: 1. This individual's trust isn't in God (and the church He's placed them in). Or 2. This individual is attending an untrustworthy church and should consider finding a new one. I want someone to please tell me the principles and purpose bihind tithing |