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Gaddafithe2nd:You just want to make mischief of an irrelevant concern. Yoruba do not play religious politics and that is why a Muslim Yoruba man will prefer to work with a Christian Yoruba than an Hausa Muslim. Which is more is subjective to your seeming irrational judgment which in true reality is of no consequence. If Catholics were asked of their population in Nigeria today, they will probably carry their baptismal record, sum up the figures and release a bogus figure whereas among the Yoruba, catholic like Muslims has lost many follows to Evangelicals. To sum up, the Yoruba are a special breed in Africa, deeply spiritual yet embrace plurality of ideas, civilized and, many actually have and practice religious values |
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Whynotthetruth:You don't seem to be able to filter political antagonism from religious ones. How do you differentiate muslims from christians among the Yoruba if a muslim chose not to put an islamic name as part of his names. Attacks based on political affilliation has always been part of the Yoruba political history and its evidently clear that when power changes hands things can turn around. Who even told you that those attacks did not originate from their own foes in their own camps? Politics is a bitter thing among Yoruba i know that but religion? i will say forget it, they will certainly rise above that. |
Deadright2:Yoruba land is for everyone; Muslims, Christians, traditionalist, free thinkers and it will only take you to fuse into their society to know the mentality of freedom these people carries. Apart from some minorities in Middle Belt, the Yoruba is the group to which you can ascribe religious freedom. Mosques and churches side by side, husbands and wives practicing differing religions, imam inviting pastors to house warming. Even those in those universities chose a part of deep Islam, most of them chose the path of peace and to lord their ideologies and reclusive lifestyle will be hard.Religious separatism, sharia or Christian codes can't sell. Civilization not religion is what Yoruba embrace, who can stop that really? |
12Monkeys:I understand your fears but unfortunately even in 100years it may not materialize, why? Culture of freedom. No one stops you from doing Oro(cult) ceremonies, no one forbids you from holding stuffs in your mosques or churches. You will have no one to fight. Anyone seen as a religious symbol and marketed that way cannot be a political force among Yoruba. Fashola is a nominal Muslim, every new year thanksgiving in Lagos during his regime had Pastor Adeboye as the preacher, same with Amosun, why do you think they associate with these men? Among the Yoruba, there are few exclusively religious families without the mix of everything and bigotry cannot win you any political popularity not even in Kwara. I schooled in the southwest too and a group once attempted to disrupt a Friday class die to Jumat, to the surprise of all, Muslims students like themselves countered them that everything in life is of free will. There's no way you won't have radicalized elements in Yoruba land but their fights will first start from their own families, they will first have to contend with pastors and easy going Muslims, babalawo etc in their families first. You can see why their futures aren't so promising. |
trenlog:I certainly do not agree with religious segmentation in Yorubaland but you know when resources concentrate in government, there will be agitations by different groups. The truth is that Yoruba has never played to the gallery on religious ground and I think its the influence of their culture that is responsible for such. Let's be factual, Yoruba land has probably the highest number of Muslims converts into Christianity in the world per population. The actual population of Muslims can no longer be judged by names people bear just like we have ifawale as imams and ogunwale as Bishops. The states you can think of may be a 50% Christian and Muslims population are two; kwara and Oyo but that isn't even certain when Ibadan comes into the equation in Oyo and when you can think outside of Ilorin and offa in kwara. To note Ogun as Muslim dominated is a comedy and in fact, when did religion become an issue in Yoruba politics? Saraki, Tinubu, Fashola, Amosun's wives are Christians and most of their children are Christians. I think one fact you can't take away from the Yoruba is the multireligious nature, good Christians bad Christians, good Muslims bad Muslims, traditional worshippers exclusive, those who combine either of Christianity or Islam with traditional worships or consultations, those who are just there. You may wish to say that nominal and practicing Christians including Muslim converts should be like over 60% of the population and about 2% exclusive traditional adherents. |
Its just a political power play. Muslims do not make up to 30%in that state to be conservative. Ekiti and Ondo states have low Muslim population and, if a power play is talked into play by Muslim groups, they may never have a member in any government. However, Yoruba don't play religious politics, its just a digression to create awareness's for their groups |
hero2000:People who have reasonable education and care to study the Nigeria power problem will know that one year is a child's play in sorting the power sector problems on which many are criticizing him on. Since 1999 Obasanjo invested in erecting gas turbines, but gas evacuation was a challenge, transmission is still a challenge with less than 7000mw max capacity, he instituted the process of power privatization and focused on gas being d readily available source and the quickest to set up. GEJ came unbundled it as part of the process a d sold all the Discos to incapable people and just as it was presented in d last conference, even the TCN was a fraudulent stuff. There re also loads of policy mgts issues like decentralizing the TCN to regional companies and localizing power Gencos. I know many are ignorant and some that knows are playing politics. Shame!!!! There's nothing any other minister can do more when there's less capital inflow from NDA acts and low oil price, and unbelievable unprecedented corruption issues.mschew |
Nigeria just need to be neutral on the Israeli-Palestinian issue. I don't think its any of our problems at this time. A 2 state solution has been sought but the trivial issue of the status of Jerusalem is what is beyond everyone,its Israel eternal capital and Arabs religious holiest site, this singular issue is at the fulcrum of global crises. The Israelis believe anyone that removes them from their inheritance will be plagued by unknown disease and that happened to Ariel Sharon when he ceded the Gaza strip. if Nigeria takes side ,history may not be kind to us.Even Turkey, a majorly Muslim country relate with Israel and just restored diplomatic relations after the Flotilla issue. Sanusi should face his Emirate as that desire may be far fetched . The only thing that is of interest in the middle East is what the map will look like after Syrian and Yemini wars which have been termed as Iran's proxy wars. I feel that moved USA into backing some Sunni rebels against ISIL. Nigeria shouldn't just go there at all even Nelson Mandela refused to mediate for them. |
I didn't see how he was grilled here. Many of you just write for the sake of criticizing someone who to me is much better than Jonathan Goodluck. Being able to put stuffs together in recession is hard especially when you have to defend under a dwindling market conditions. I see many of you here are still struggling with JAMB while some can't even defend papers they call certificates! Fashola to me is an inspiration in the political sphere and trusting him with multiple ministries is the way to confidently tell Nigerians that he's a trusted hand. To those who hope that Nigeria power problem can be solved by Buhari in a year, it shows how low your education has gone and how ignorant lots of youths have become. |
jaz:Buhari anti corruption stance stands him in peril of death hence, his security arrangement may be to give him some rest of mind, he however needs an economic advisory council that can include some of the best Nigeria parades, give PYO greater freedom to move the economy. Fashola is a good material and among all the names so far mentioned, aside PYO, Fashola is a light years ahead. HOW He became d governor of Lagos under a powerful politicians with political limitations, he was able to raise the hope of Nigerians that we can still get things right.. Through institutions such as Lasaa, Lastra, etc he transformed Lagos, itself a mini Nigeria, demonstrated sufficient knowledge of the task ahead of him and had clear vision of his goals. if he becomes president, there won't be limitations from Bourdilon, he can map his vision and build bridges. I probably will chose Ribadu or El Rufai as his vice but for religious tone but they can be part of the government. From the East, I can think of Anyaoku and may be the likes of Frank Iweke Jnr. Pat Utomi is an economist, love his ideas at LBS and at Conferences but can he manage the political landscape is my candid reservation.If I should be the President, I will make him a member of my powerful economic advisory council. |
Emyogalanya:This thread is not about a history that will take us nowhere. Moving forward is what is needed now |
tsdarkside:Why would war ensued when critical issues on developments are discussed.Military leaders turned Politicians to enjoy booties of war since 60s! Anyone who propagate war does so to protect the status quo that doesn't really benefit Nigerians at d best. A system that will entrench accountability is of dreadful to corrupt and lazy classes. |
The issue of restructuring may become a serious campaign issue in 2019 moreso if someone like Atiku Abubakar should run for Presidency on any platform. The truth is the bottom up approach can be a way of aligning the current structure to suit a more productive one where every group no matter how small will feel belong to the country. |
tsdarkside:You are just a passersby, come up with how your are going to get your stomachs full |
2kings 2:10-11. Please read again and again. The prophet was taken up to heaven by the chariot through a whirlwind |
Chiwude:Nigeria can and will still be different from what it is today. This arrangement will be part of what will make Nigeria a great country again. Democracy will tinker with all selfish interests, its a matter of time |
tsdarkside:I feel a really long $40 a barrel crude oil is what Nigeria needs to get her acts together. You think if the people resolve to restructure military will take over power? Its just a simple constitutional amendment sir. We can't be under bondage for fear of freedom! |
tsdarkside:How can you say the current structure is good. Getting allocations from the centre? Oil dependent economy ? Ethnic and religious tensions? Corruption? etc These will be addressed I believe in the model out forth sir |
tsdarkside:You unfortunately haven't come up with a better model. During the regional arrangement, it was a 50-50 sharing formula, I believe the interest of all is protected in this model albeit not exhaustively hence, the need for your contributions |
cheruv:You can criticize this model but I feel it will satisfy current agitators, allow for those with religious views in governance and five freedom to plurality The central government can be headed by a Prime Minister |
cheruv:You can criticize this model but I feel it will satisfy current agitators, allow for those with religious views in governance and five freedom to plurality |
tsdarkside:You didn't state how the weaker ones are cheated and how they are protected in the current structure. This is a bottom up approach such that: 1. Ethnic or interested groups form their autonomous districts, regions or principalities 2. Come to be a part of a state 3. Have their interests duly represented in that state. |
I honestly believe a Fashola presidency with Ribadu or a PYO ads President and Ribadu vice. But man can't see what God can see.May be its me |
All infrastructures, security and educational developments will be under states control. Federal government will control foreign affairs, defense and federal security apparatus |
There were of late the agitations for the restructuring of Nigeria, it does not matter what opinions political office holders hold today, Nigeria will have no option but restructure in order to continue to survive as a virile country. I actually see former Vice President Atiku Abubakar coming up with this as a smart political calculation to align his political future with popular sentiments across southern Nigeria and key areas of Middle Belt even though he fell short of what manner of restructuring it should take. The question is what form of restructured Nigeria do we want, this is why am doing this for Nigerians to contribute beyond the blanket agitation to the exactness of how a restructured Nigeria should look like: When Nigeria antecedents are duly considered and now that we have to reckon with current challenges and likely challenges that may confront this country, it is pertinent to restructure Nigeria to address problems of: 1. Ethnic agitations for autonomy 2. Fiscal federalism and dependent on centralized economic system 3. Resource control 4. Security challenges such as militancy and terrorism 5. Disparity in socio economic and political evolutions. 6. Protection of minority groups WHAT NIGERIA A Federal system maintained in which states are slightly different from what they are now such that states will reflect solutions to ethnic agitations, resource control, security concerns, fiscal federalism and provide platforms for growth within a desired socioeconomic and political sphere. This means we can have all Hausa/Fulani, all Yoruba, all Igbo and all Ijaw ethnic groups and their willing kinsmen can form states. Now states will be autonomous and be fiscally independent. If we put the limitation on admission as states such that we may not have more than 14 states and the FCT. We can therefore have 7states in the North and 7 states in the south. So in my opinion, aside the Hausa/Fulani state let us call it Arewa state, we can also now have these states in the north: 1. Arewa 2. Borno : Representing the kanuri people 3. Nok : This state will be the agglomeration of minorities in southern Kaduna, plateau, southern Bauchi, states of today 4. Niger: comprising various non Hausa/Fulani groups and who would not want to be in Arewa from Kebbi, Niger, non Yoruba in Kwara, parts of FCT 5. Benue : The Tiv people with non Yoruba in Kogi, Nasarawa and parts of Taraba 6. Gongola: minorities in southern Borno, Gombe, northern Adamawa 7. Mambilla : Groups from Taraba, Adamawa and similar groups from northern cross River *FCT Before I move to the south, the question is when you lump many more ethnic groups won't you be creating a bigger problem? The answer is internal political structures and autonomy across interested groups such that, ethnic groups or groups with similar identities or interests will form local governments, districts, or principalities evolving their own internal administrative system. For instance, in Benue, the Tiv people can have their autonomous Tiv region and Igala can have autonomous Igala region and that state alone can have as many autonomous regions as it may be desirous of its people. Any state willing to centralize its administrative structure can also do the same if it so desire. Let me now suggest the seven states from the south: 1. Omoluabi-Oduduwa: Yoruba and their kinsmen that may be willing to be a part of the state 2. Alaigbo : Igbo people and their kinsmen that may chose to be a part of the state 3. Izon : comprising all ijaw people from Delta, Bayelsa and their kinsmen that may be willing to be a part of the state 4. Bendel: Edo and Delta excluding parts that may have aligned with oduduwa, Alaigbo or Izon. 5. Rivers 6. Akwa Ibom 7. Cross River The internal administration is such that minority groups can have their own autonomous districts, regions, provinces etc within each state. RESOURCE CONTROL Since Africans are still land related people and are yet to see the brain as the greatest resource. This is a very sensitive matter. All resources within each state is within the control of the state but owe it to the Federal government to pay 40% of all proceeds as tax to the federal government. Internal arrangements will be made by states on how developments can be pursued. OFFSHORE OIL AND GAS All offshore minerals shall be under federal-states joint administration with 50%-50% equal share with federal and states bordering the coast. FEDERAL GOVERNMENT A unicamera assembly with 3 representative from each state and 2 extra members from states with bigger population size meaning that a state cannot have more than 5 representative and cannot have less than 3 |
Jesus said " because they thought they could see they became blind" Anyone trying to explain creation through scientific means is fooling around, you can only have ideas through spiritual sanity! |
This is a sweet news to hear. I hope the governor knows that news like this is what we want to hear. Anything that will break the MEND, AVENGERS etc hold will do. However, he did not state the quantity that are still being disputed with Kogi, now that is very important as statements as this can fuel ethnic shocks. I think If this is confirmed to be true at all then the entir Niger trough has to be checked for gas especially.Good news |
Oga : Boss is the single most understood word across many languages and spoken across many countries. Nko: suffix , a question mark? is another widely used word |
Polytechnics and Universities aren't d same at d levels of research, curricula and teachers. You can't equate any polytechnics to universities. The essence of their existence differs. |
The Kingdom of Eri was highly hypothetical when you study through d historical concepts presented by its archeological proponents. The dates offered were not distinct and many positions assumed were historical mirage. The effect if Benin Empire on Onitsha can be proved culturally but there's no distinct cultural inheritance but some relics assumed to have been part of Eri civilization which to someone like me, can be assumed to be unproven as part of today's civilization. In the last 500 years, no one has been able to prove that an empire existed that span 18th century in Eastern flank of Nigeria save the bloodied Arochukwu kingdom which was minor and to d north if it d Jukuns and Igala. There are alot in African antiquities and saying Eri is of continuous igbo kingdom is d same as believing d currents crops of Arabs were of d ancient Egypt |
We must appreciate the foresight of that man, most stars of today's Delta were either direct beneficiaries of his vision or offshoot of it |
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Learn to be realistic bro...
... Believe me, Yoruba muslims are deadlier than northern muslims nowadays...It is already manifesting for all to see because corruptio optima pessima 
