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I do not understand what perspective this your questions relate to the discussion at hand

1. I've lived in Nigeria virtually all my life, most of it in Lagos
2. Yes I have done business with government b4

so educate us........what don't we know

soberdrunk:
Oga please just two questions

1) How long have you lived in Nigeria? -

2) Have you ever done business with the government before?

[quote author=soberdrunk post=49516468][/quote]OK, pls "educate us"..... I am eager to learn from your "wider perspective"

aresssa:

aremodtwo: :
Imagine no work they are still bringing in cable cars... nonsense

Investors are bringing in hundreds of millions of dollars to pump into the economy and create tons of jobs and this one is saying no work? Is this not how jobs are created and how to boost the economy?

Or you think this project is going to build, run and maintain itself and not by Nigerian or human beings...?


You people really think and rationalize at below elementary school level...

@Aresa, can you imagine a typical mindset of someone that calls himself a Nigerian youth?

seguno2:
Have they finished the light rail after $1 billion World Bank loan?

Useless question.

The project is strictly private sector driven

Untainted007:
Ok till then; but Lagos government should not forget that countries that have this already planned for it from inception. Structurally Lagos is congested already. If that is the case, so many people will still be rendered homeless. God will help us all.

Any evidence to support this "frivolous" statement?

soberdrunk:
Is the timing right? Should this be a priority for Lagos state at this point in time? Then the big issue of "Maintenance" ! Let it not turn to another white elephant project like our almighty 'Mono rail' in Rivers state.....

Some of you display so much ignorance..........

This is not a government project. This is 100% private..... so

1. Is the timining right? - If the investors have confidence in the Lagos business environment, why not?
2. Should it be a priority for Lagos State? Absolutely YES!!!! A city trending towards 25million people, transportation is a nightmare that will require many innovative interventions
3. The big issue of maintenance is left to the investors.....if they like let them not maintain their vehicles
4. Another white elephant project?.......... ignorance

PS - to the best of my knowledge, Rivers Mono rail is not a white elephant project. It is just that Wike and his co-travelers cannot see beyond their myopia to understand the value in integrated transportation and infrastructural development

idensko:
Aluminum
And kerosine from plastic waste?

That will be 9th wonders of the world

After buhari.


Basic chemistry will tell you that it is impossible

What "Basic Chemistry" did you study? Plastic is a petrochemical derivative of crude oil.........and a reversal of the the process will lead to other derivatives, hence Kerosine and Diesel. What learning are children of now adays getting self?

Smagiro18:
yet Nigerian Air Force will say thr have engineers, non can design paper kite let alone an aircraft and thr will be proud announcing thr are buying frm Russia

I believe a good first step is that you step up and help them design it

obailala:
Apart from Mr Joe Abah who has already been attended to appropriately by the authorities of IVM, since we cant point out other IVM SUVs having the same overheating or gear problem less than 3 years after purchase, then we wouldn't be out of place to also say Joe's case is likewise a rare case and represents just 0.01% of IVM vehicles.

So what was your problem all the while?

zikter:

idupaul: :


Do you understand the Genesis of this problem at all? Somebody else was being investigated for the 15million dollars found in four of his companies and Mrs Jonathan just came forward to claim ownership the EFCC has advised she brings concrete and legal proof of ownership which till now she has failed to ...the strange part is that there is no legal or Corporate linked between her and the said funds..If you ask me the woman is simply pricing trouble where there is non because nobody had accused her of owning the funds in the first place but in a rather strange twist she accused herself of owning the funds and yet can't even deliver a single legit connection that it's her funds

some people are just blindly hateful. I doubt if they have the capacity to comprehend your point

@idupaul,

I thought it was someone else........kudos for your intelligent summary.........

but just like zikter said, deranged folks struggle to comprehend your point.....but it's worse than that. The embarrassing manner PEJ and her lawyers wants to defend this is also ridiculous...

dimieprincess:
Children of hatred just polluted this thread, hating a woman that had the first community bank in Rivers State in the 70s when Amaechi and his likes were still house boys or trekking from Boro Kiri to winpe junction

Madam,

Give your self a break or you will get unnecessary HBP with stew.pid lies. Did Patience tell you that the money came from "a community bank in the 70s"?

How come she owned a community bank when she should be in primary school during those period? Haba! Child of Lie!!!

adconline:
Not true! Most car manufacturers give 50k or 5 years which ever comes first. Aide failed to state the mileage on the car.

I think you should verify facts before you carelessly jump into arguements.

"All Toyota brands of cars bought from these accredited Toyota dealers in Nigeria come with at least three (3) years or 100,000km Manufacturer Warranty." https://www.naijatechguide.com/2008/05/nigeria-toyota-accredited.html

....

Is it under waranty or not is another issue. Even if it is not under waranty, what stress test did not discover that a car which will be used on typical Nigeria roads cannot witstand two years of use?

CSTR2:
Then go to INNOSON and lay a complain. As a politician, he most likely have a direct line to INNOSON. It may even be a problem with that vehicle only and not a general thing.
Thousands of people are already using INNOSON for years without major issues that we know of.
Government aides in the GEJ administration used INNOSON and they didn't publicly lambast the company because they knew better.
This is a white and black issue. Unfortunately bigotry will not make you see it.

Bros,

It only becomes bigotry when you read "anti-igbo" to it. If we stay professional and address the issue of loss of customer satisfaction, then we have a credible discussion. If I shelled out a kobo to buy a product and I am dissatisfied, you are not in anyway entitled to tell me how to express my dissatisfaction. That he should go to Innosons and complain is given, but If Dr. Abah is upset enough to make it public, he's entitled to that as well

obailala:
A car is a mechanical device and just like every other mechanical device, it can develop a mechanical fault right after it is rolled out of the assembly. It becomes a problem and a cause for alarm only if all similar models develop the exact same fault within a short period. That you bought a corolla in 2008 and it hasn't had any single garage visit (strange), that doesn't mean we haven't heard cases of toyota corollas developing major mechanical faults as soon as they leave the assembly line.

It is rare (I will be on less that 0.0005%) that a brand new Toyota, Honda, Benz and the likes will develop overheating and Gear issues less than 3 years after purchase. This is because of the comprehensive tests they go through. And also in some very rare occassions, some of these companies are wary of the hammer of the regulation coming down on them for "sub-standards", hence they critically perform their tests very well and proactively stay connected to the customer, so that in case their is a complaint, they get to the customer before he becomes disatisfied.

Do you read with your butt? Where did I say my 2008 corolla hasn't had any garage visit?

idupaul:
You are even more desperate than I thought . Jumping from one field to another looking for a great host to leech off for the rest of your life . So when you hear any field is paying better you quickly package your self and go there to dock and depend... How many times do have to tell you the I have used the word clerk in a different context.. I am done with this back and forth thing ..regards and have a great day

"Jumping from one field to the other".......doesn't that tell you I am versatile?

I hope it would encourage you to at least aspire for something...........

obailala:
There's a difference between venting one's anger over a recurring problem and just deliberately de-marketing a Nigerian product. As a government official he should have known better to promote and not unfairly de-market.

Every car develops some mechanical fault at some point in its life, even brand new cars do develop faults too but remember this is an almost 3 year old vehicle. Finding a maggot in my juice is a totally different case, that is an unexpected, totally unacceptable situation. But cars developing mechanical issues after being driven ruggedly on Nigerian roads for almost 3 years?... C'mon!

Wrong! A car is not expected to develop heating issues and gear issue in less than 3yrs if it had not been involved in an accident or major impact. Even manufacturers give guarantees of mileages that averages 3years use. We bought a Toyota Corrolla in 2008 and still in use today. The first time I touched the gear was 2year ago.....and guess what, for routine service. I this vehicle does inter-state on Lagos-Ibadan-Osogbo fairly regularly......

Goke7:
Let's get real bruv, Patience and [size=30pt]his wife GEJ[/size] would never be charged to court, we are not matured as a nation for that now sentiments upon sentiments will never allow that to happen.

There is also the sentiment that in order not to encourage african presidents to perpetuate themselves in power, its better when they quit office, we allow them go with their loot. its so sad but that's the truth. If just an invitation to Tompolo to come to court and defend himself has made the whole Niger delta go mad then imagine what will happen if madam pieces is in court. I think the disgrace that she came out to say its her money is enough.

We are not even a developing nation, we are under-developed which is even an understatement

Goke7:
Innoson is still new in this business please so its up to them to protect their brand by doing the needful by getting in contact with the complainant and fixing the car. its that too much? This is where Nigerian businesses miss it, the same toyota cars and co ply Nigerian roads too, don't they?

whether the man is mischievous or not, its up to innosson to defend their brand, when I was doing my masters in unilag, a former md of uac was in the same class with me for a particular course, someone in the class before lecture began was chatting with a friend and abusing Mr biggs for their meat pie, the former uac md heard and quickly called his successor in uac to come hear and see for himself what people were saying about mr biggs meat pie. Few moments later, Mr biggs staff arrived the class where we are and started serving everyone snacks for free, it was like what? are we dreaming? That is how to respond and defend your brand whether those complaining are mischievous or not.

Its up to innosson to abuse their customer or do the needful.

Bros,

These folks do not know what value should be placed on brand. You are very correct......this is where Nigerian business miss it. A friend of had an issue with a bank teller and in anger dropped a compliant in the suggestion box......... guess who called him to follow up.....Erastus Akingbola..............

obailala:
If your car is bad, take it to the garage for repairs. If there's still some warranty time left, the repairs will be for free. Every vehicle brand at one point or the other goes to the garage. Mr Abah doesn't expect IVM vehicles to be immune from mechanical faults especially after driving it ruggedly on Nigerian roads for 2 and half years does he?.... Has he also serviced his vehicle as at when due?

Car manufacturers recall cars when there is a recurrent fault which has been reported and confirmed by a large percentage of customers (not just one customer on tweeter). So far, IVM still maintains a very good record to the best of our knowledge.

A customer has the right to vent his frustration any how. That is how to keep manufacturers on their toes. Imagine if you bought a Dangote's Dansa Juice and you find maggot inside, what will you do? call their customer care alone?

kenny987:
Recall? Recalling a product implies there are technical and production faults which immediately affect the performance of the machinery, there will most likely be very high complaints frequency of similar problems from lots of customers immediately after purchase. A vehicle developing a fault after 2yrs or more of usage on crazy Nigerian roads does not warrant a recall.

The aide was purely mischievous! He should have gone to the custom care of d company to complain, that is a normal procedure. His silliness on twitter would have been more sensible if he'd gone to report d faults and he was not properly attended to or they were inexplicably unable to resolve the problem!

Madam, you're wrong.

Toyota recently recalled vehicles even up to 4years. Elizade made a full-page add, for users of Toyota Hi-lux to come for a replacement of a suspension part. I am a living witness

Franchise21:
B'cos it's Innoson, he came out to spew thrash on social media. If it were to be Toyota, Lexus, Honda, Nissan or Mercedes nw, he won't come out like this... Nonsense!!!

Absolutely Yes!!!!

How do you think companies like Toyota, Honda and VW are forced to do recalls due to faulty breaks, suspension and even as small as software? Do you think it's safe to just contact their customer service and stuffs like that get covered up?

But the big question is, does Innosons have a certified testing routine before product launch?

This is not an indictment on Innosons yet, except they handle it badly. If their vehicles have a major heating and gear issue, they better do a recall, fix and return to the customer. That is pretty standard.

A customer can make or mar......and to all the folks abusing Dr. Abah, you're clanish twisted minds will not let you see that this is a way to better Nigeria

idupaul:
My thoughts exactly. .you see I read you quite well ..I also know you don't make much difference at where you work currently. .Since you joined them what new idea or process have you even brought to the table there ? Non non non ..you are going to be dependent on other people's success ,ideas and innovations all your life because you are a born clerk ..you depended on your parents and now you are in some office pretending to be busy while infact you are just a dependent free loader..ideas am sure you even drop the name of your boss with some pastor so just you can find favor in his eyes . Till now I am sure you have not repaid your parent all they good they did for you.. Bro please be sincere what new stuff have you ever introduced to your work place ?

Now I am getting a whole lot of laffs at your idiocy. Let me start from your last piece.......
1. This was me 2 years ago. https://www.nairaland.com/2044554/thread-phd-students/4#29008255. so your guess is as good as mine, where I would be by now .......
2. In terms of work, if you follow the intellectual and professional discussions (unfortunately not your forte) very well here, you'll probably be able to guess the industry I work. But then, I imagine I should not saddle you with what you cannot comprehend
3. Don't worry if I make a difference where I work or not (although that is another area I can use facts to slap you, but.......my identity is under wraps).....It is needless going into debate with you......you're so shallow content-wise.......

I still ask you.....when did being a clerk become derogatory? You're such an idiot. You do not even know what a clerk is and does.

idupaul:
I am sorry I tried to make a Muppet like you see the large picture . Now go back to your salary work before dem sack your lame dependent a$$.

Of course I have "salary work". To get it, I demonstrated an above par reasoning which you seemingly at any rate have a life-time to attain..........

So I guess it's safe to say you're not even in the job bracket.......either by academic qualification or intellect.........

....and before you go on an intellectual premature eja.cula.tion, let me burst your falsehood.......don't tell us how you own "chains of businesses"....that lie is expired on NL

idupaul:
Muppet

Watch on NL, I will advise you to seek help before you post, as it is obvious your mental capacity is not up to scratch. But if you want to "entertain" with your stu.pidity, why not.........I will have my fill in pointing them out

idupaul:
I told you there are somethings your type of person can never understand . See the rubbish you have posted which show you still don't see the large picture great minds see.

Great minds like you? Well I want to believe there are times when some people are allowed to fool themselves. Trust me, you have no quality of a sound mind

chukzyblingz:
Nigerian prison service? Who's the spokesman of the Nigerian prison service? So you expect him to come out and say yes we released him? Who's the kid here?

The question of who's the kid is obvious but not as unbelievable as your reasoning capacity wasy below kid's standard. Who is the spokesman of Nigerian Prison Service?

Ok! It is Nnamdi Kanu........

papaejima1:
Yours is quantified in moles/dm³
Exploration comes before discovery right?

......what comes before discovery to you? production?

Supo

idupaul:
The word clerk here wasn't used in the context of the office title but I don't expect a certified clerk like you to understand that ... and where exactly did I say Buhari made Arik to owe Insurance ? Damn you must be a pedigree clerk . Do you even know the implication of the biggest local Airlines stopping operations for a day and the cascading effect it will have on the economy and the image of Buharis govt? Do you know that Buhari has learnt that he made a mistake in letting Aero close shop without intervening as a govt and I was impressed he didn't allow same happen to Arik ...so you can see why I said Buhari has started gaining some little sense . DO you have kids yet?

1. You're simply a comic relief, but I will humour myself with your brazen ignorance....but let's continue with the comic show.....
2. In whatever "context" you put a clerk, you're not up to scratch in reasoning........
3. Why was Arik operations shut down? You did not get from the report is that it is because they owed insurance? So it is whose fault?
4. So if a management team of a supposed "biggest local Airlines" demonstrate executive recklessness and irresponsibility, it automatically becomes the fault of the presidency, because to you their operations is hinged on "cascading effects" and "image of Buhari govt"?
5. Buhari let Aero close shop? your idiocy is beginning to amuse me. If we go by your wierd logic, we will absolve the Ibru family, whom the Canadian partners accused of graft, over invoicing and other issues bothering on trust, you will blame Buhari? Or is it Buhari's fault that he started "undermining" Aero since 2010 up to date when AMCOM rescued it twice yet it did not come up?

Bros you are skilled at beer-parlour logic, I give that to you

idupaul:
No one expects you to understand what I just wrote ...It wasn't intended for a clerk like you because I know it's really hard for you to relate what Buhari has to do with Arik commencing operations.

Bros,

If I as a "clerk" (whatever is wrong with being a clerk) can see how dumb you are, then you must be closer to a state of no redemption. Please tell us how Buhari made Arik to owe insurance?

Nychillax:

supersystems: :
See what Fayemi said you so-called guru


“In two to five years, we want to have started production of iron ore, lead, zinc, bitumen, nickel, coal, and gold at a serious scale,” Mr. Fayemi had said.

Now can you procude these materials or he ought to say we want to start exploration and produce meaningful substances from these minerals ?


All these guys are fools pretending to be wise jor

Who are you to fayemi??Only few politician in Nigeria's politics has an inspired CV than him.According to udo udoma "fayemi is a phenomenon and a generalist". Shut the hell up and stop littering the cyberspace.He is performing as a minister of mineral resources without any doubt about it,only people that are blinded by sentiments won't b able to see it.We all knw the state of Ajaokuta iron-ore b4 and we are all heard about the discoveries of other mineral resources in our domain even in larger quantity.You want mineral resources to b utilized in short period of time without proper and adequate step??why are u people always look for useless excuse, the hatred u are having about this government has completely reversed yer cerebrum.

Go back to the topic,read the contexts again am you will understand the content.

ever wondered why @supersystems is on NL ranting and Fayemi is the minister? We are running a country and not a beer parlour. For someone who cannot understand simple context, how then do you think he'll make it beyond NL

papaejima1:
Who was in power in early 2015?
Use your teeth and count your tongue!

The Comet team said the metal was identified and exploration commenced in early 2015

Unfortunately your ignorance is laced with cream. Exploration commenced = discovery?

ayoolanr:

otukpo: :
Another mineral resource that would make the government turn its back on agriculture/industrialization.

You nailed it! Nigeria is in deep need of industrialization!!! Almost as if our African leaders are generally stupid!!! They should take a cue from post world war 2 Germany , even Russia......Nigerians and Africans in general tend to be mentally lazy!!!! Industrialization and infrastructural development cannot be stressed enough.....Instead they would rather pay themselves fat salaries and worry about lining their pockets with gold! If i could curse these leaders i would!!!! So much potential....even our people need a cultural revolution and a rethink and re-orientation when it comes to the way we do things!!!!

Hold it!!!!! Before you uninformed lot go on unnecessary and uninformed rants.................

1. You need to cut the government a whole lot of slack. If this is not a move towards industrialisation, then what is?
2. The government said they will pursue diversification and pointed to the mining industry as one of the areas of focus. They have done something our governments in the past 30years failed to do.
3. The Ministry of Mines and Steel recently launched a new roadmap. I bet you both have not read the document. I think it is important that step back at times as reassess what we think or say. Let's imagine that people are working in the background and a whole lot to get us to "Nikel"......and the work continues