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You should hear the way some of these fundamentalists speak. I heard one such suicide bomber on a tape say they love death as much as the Western world loves life.

Another cleric was saying on TV, "the West has the atom bomb, we have the population bomb". Freaks!

nilla:
Davidylan,

I know i am smart.

LOL LOL LOL

krazysage:
terrorists are not stupid, they are people with a logical course but it is the 'logicality' of their actions that we question.

Their cause is not logical. They are cowardly. They blow themselves up so they don't have to live with the consequences while they make up stories about virgins waiting for them in heaven etc so they have inspiration to kill.

Nothing but cowards.

This lie was found out quickly.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060807/ap_on_re_mi_ea/lebanon_israel_843;_ylt=ApL8v7VJvyBgzppejwwRtSIUvioA;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

Plus more witnesses to the fact that hezbolla (so called "freedom fighters" uses civilian areas to launch rockets.
Saniora said the attack occurred in the southern village of Houla, where heavy ground fighting between Hezbollah guerrillas and Israel has been raging in recent days. The Israeli army said it is checking the claims about Houla but repeated that residents in villages in southern Lebanon had been warned to leave.

There was no confirmation of the death toll from security officials, but witnesses said the airstrike flattened five homes in a tribal compound.

U.N. peacekeepers at a post near Houla reported Hezbollah fired rockets toward Israel twice Monday from positions near the UNIFIL base.

Afam:
I guess you always get to benefit more from these exchanges as you don't seem organised and yet you claim to understand what's going on.

Your response on the seizures of lands by Israel simply makes it obvious that you are a religious bigot blinded by hate.

Oh, you were and still are against the war in Iraq? Based on what? Are you protesting against Bush or what?

I find it difficult to understand how someone like you will object to the illegal invasion even though you have it on good authority that Saddam was killing, executing, using chemical weapons against his own people.

Do you really have any set of principles that guide your thought process or do you just support anything based on your mood?

What are your reasons for opposing the illegal invasion of Iraq?

Do not bother about giving reasons for supporting the on-going on in Lebanon as you are simply not making sense.

Before I comment on your post, I want to say that I really, really, really don't give a flying **** of what your perception of me is. Just want us to be clear on that. I've seen the way you think.

Now whether you believe or can't believe my objection to the war in Iraq is irrelevant to me. For official purposes my objection to the war was based on clear lack of evidence connecting Iraq to Sep 11. This has nothing to do with the fact that I think Bush is a slowpoke. And no I am not protesting against Bush but, I will not vote for him if it mattered.

My reasons for supporting Israel's offensive against Hezbolla is already well represented in this thread.

Afam:
I doubt if you will ever seek for justice, peace etc in your life time.

I doubt you will ever stop talking absolute nonsense.

Afam:
But for Iran, the other countries have had their lands seized by Israel and they are trying to get their lands back. Iran supports them just as the US supports Israel.

As for Syria, how can you get your lands (militarily tactical advantagous land) back from a victorious country you fought a war with when you refuse to end the state of war with the country and refuse to recognise the country's right to exist. As for Lebanon, that situation has been discussed at length in this thread already.

Afam:
Nobody can wipe Israel off the map, the comments of the Iranian president notwithstanding. Slowly but painfully, the major players are realizing that a political solution will be better than a military solution.

I wonder if you and the other chorus singers will say the same if it were an Israeli president that said that about one of the Arab countries. LOL, I can just imagine it now LOL.

Afam:
Very interesting point you raised there. Now, before the illegal invasion of Iraq by US and of course supported by Israel Iraq never witnessed a single suicide attack.

Infact, Iraq has never killed any American but for the gulf war before the illegal invasion.

Iraq had a christain (even with less than 3% of the population in Iraq) as the second most powerful man in Iraq.

Yeah and before the US invasion (which I was and still am against) Saddam was freely executing, imprisoning, torturing and using chemical weapons against his own people.

Afam:
So, what brought about the suicide bombings in Iraq today?

It is convenient for you to point out the suicide bombings but, not convenient for you to point out what led to the carnage in that counrty today.

And why has the suicide attacks continued inspite of all the US military might in Iraq? Remember that one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

Maybe when the current conflict between Israel and Hezbollah goes to a very bad situation you will equally state that suicide bombers are in Lebanon without stating why the conflict got to the level it may get to then.

It is convenient for you to point out that one man's terrorist is another man's "freedom fighter" but, not convenient to point out that the suicide bombers are mudering Iraqis themselves at the rate of 20+ persons a day by detonating bombs in crowded places such as markets, mosques etc.

Maybe when you get it in your head that Hezbolla does not represent lebanon but, has actually forced itself on it, myabe then you will have an epiphany. You know, seeing as you constantly point out you're christain for no apparent reason.

lol davidylan I admire your patience in this situation. I fear you are wasting your time with these so called "unbiased", "fairness wanting", "justice seeking", "peaceful" people.

If the arab militants and extremists in Syria, Lebanon, Iran and the Palestinians put down their weapons, there would be no more fighting.

If the Israelis put down their weapons, there would be no more Israel.

Another interesting fact. More people have died in Iraq from suicide bombers in the last two weeks than in Israel and Lebanon combined.

More info on how they are trying to propagate lies against Israel.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/747018.html

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=TopNews&storyID=2006-08-06T215602Z_01_L06301298_RTRUKOC_0_US-MIDEAST-REUTERS.xml&WTmodLoc=Home-C2-TopNews-TopNews-10

I saw the link. The other poster and yourself either misread or intentionally misinterpreted that particular statement made in the article.

Either way you refuse to see what actually is. Peharps that's because it ruins your fantasy about Israel being an oppressor. If you wish to remain ignorant, then that's your problem. However, I will call you out every time you display that ignorance.

You have a brain, educate yourself if you wish to be heard in this thread. And yes you told a lie.

slimnike:
Vote Chris Okotie For President come 2007,

NO!

nilla:
Mariory and Davidylan,
what falsehoods are we peddling. You bring links that back up your own opinions and others bring links that back up theirs. Because others don't match yours does not mean they are peddling false hoods. How are you sure you are not peddling falsehoods 

Trying to turn the clear and unarguable truth on it's head by playing with the words of the English language is not stating an opinion. It's called telling a LIE! Hezbolla crossed the border and attacked Israeli soldiers. There are no maybe's, There are no Links that say otherwise, there are no alternate universe's where things happened differently.

HEZBOLLA CROSSED THE BORDER AND ATTACKED PERIOD.

More stories of how the Israelis are gradually decimating Hezbolla as a fighting force.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2299682,00.html

I think this thread was one of the reasons she resigned.

buchio7:
and it will still rage on infinitely until,

In the short term
The military loses patience and goes on the rampage.

In the long term
Enough corrupt politicians are purged from the system.

Probably be mostly the EU including Turkey and peharps Russia.

lol

What are you talking about? Hezbolla crossed into Israel to capture the soldiers.

The number of clueless contributing to this thread is mind boggling.

How come Israeli critisisers are not commenting to the fact that Hezbolla is allowed to operate in front of and by the Lebanese army? And the lebanese president is a supporter of Hezbolla and a puppet of Syria?

That article came from Yahoo! news.

babyosisi:
Have you seen the heap of dirt on the sides and middle of the roads to and from Aba.
The stench is not comparable to any smell known to man.

LMFAO!

By the way, babyosisi is correct.
http://www.nigeriavillagesquare.com/content/view/1602/55/

Getting there slowly but, surely.

Another brilliant incursion by Israeli commandos.

Reuters news agency quoted an unnamed Israeli naval officer as saying the guerrilla cell was on the second floor of a five-storey block in a densely populated neighbourhood.

"As we burst inside, we hit a number of terrorists inside the apartment with close-quarter shots and grenades," the officer was quoted as saying.

Hezbollah al-Manar television said Hezbollah fighters repelled the attack, showing pictures of spent bullets and a blood-stained concrete floor.

Israel said eight soldiers were wounded in the operation, two seriously. It said a number of Hezbollah militants were killed and several rocket-launchers destroyed.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5247670.stm

If Israel had bombed this building from the air. Those Hezbolla fighers engaged by the commandos would have magically become "civilians". Either way bye bye Hezbolla. The clock is ticking. Good Riddance.

You know Afam, they say ignorance is bliss. Enjoy your stupidity.

@Afam
You remember when I referred to you as a retard? I take it back. You are a new breed, some form of Super Retard. If you pull your head out of your ass and check back through the pages of this thread, you will find that I have already made that comment before.

Seriously, stop wading around in the dark and bumping your head continously.

kabiyesi:
As far as Israel is concerned, all civilians are legitimate targets. So who is pumping this crap in your head? Where are you getting your info from? CNN, Fox, or BBC? How can we grow as a nation when someone like you is arguing blindly, and very parochial? You remind me of Texazzpete. No wonder Naija is in trouble as a nation. You don't have mind of your own? Just gullible to anything packaged to you as news, without reasoning?

You are a lair. The Yesha Rabbinical Council does not control Israeli national or foreign policy. There are extremists in every society of the world. The difference is this extremist group does not kidnap people, or send suicide bombers into buses to blow people up.

So what's your point here?

Israel = WANTS TO EXIST IN PEACE. (Official policy)
Iran = WANTS ISRAEL TO BE ELIMINATED. (Official policy)

Who is the aggressor here?

Eurphoria:
Mariory
What are you naive? you reckon she'll come and tell us the full story? its politics, many things are kept from the public, besides that's the beauty of discuss and forums init?

I'm not naive. I have my suspicions but, I am also leaving my options open and not jumping the gun. Why wouldn't she tell us the full story? What would stop her?

Wow she hasn't even spoken on why she resigned. You guys have already decided for her and are ready to crucify your suspects.

@nilla & shango,

Mariory:
So the six years of Hezbolla rockets and Israel trying to use the UN is not an attempt at dialogue. hezbolla has attempted to cross the border before but were repulsed by Israeli border guards. Israel didn't take further action. So Israel should sit back and dialogue when the extremists are getting bolder and are crossing the Israeli border to attack?

It appears the only thing that will make some of you see what israel is really up against would be for a terrorist to detonate a chemical or nuclear weapon in Isreal.

Why you cannot see that the extremists do not want dialogue is baffling. Must another Sep 11 happen in Israel? Six years they did nothing. SIX YEARS.

Was there any bombing before Hezbolla decided to commit an act of war and invade Israeli territory to kill and kidnap? Why is it that every time Isreal withdraws from land, it is still attacked?

If Hezbolla isn't taken out this cycle will repeat itself again. Why is Israel able to leave peacefully with Egypt and Jordan but not Syria and Lebanon(SOUTH LEBANON)?

Why do we keep going round in this retarded cycle. These guys do not want peace. They want to destroy Israel. It is their aims as stated on their websites and has been revealed by their leaders and sponsors several times.

You cannot think rationaly with these people. They want Isreal destroyed. That is their goal. They said it themselves.

How many times have there been peace treaties only for it to be broken by the militants. No, the cycle must stop. It must stop now that Israel still has the ability to defend itself. If the shoe was on the other foot, we would have witnessed another extermination of Jews years ago.

nilla:
@ mariory

Be specific. Are you saying Lebanon does not value the lives of their citizens or Hezbollah does not value the lives of the citizens of Lebanon.

Not Lebanon. The Lebanese authority is not present in Southern Lebanon.

i am saying Iran formed Hezbolla from several shia groups that were active during the Lebanese civil war. You could interpret that to be because of Isreal. You may be right, that's besides the point however.

Afam:
@Nilla,
Trying to explain the obvious (as regards what brought about Hezbollah) to Mariory is a hard one in my opinion as I see a totally brainwashed human being using this forum here.

@Nilla
I do not want to start posting links to Islamic extremist sites. Hezbolla is a name of a number of violent shia Islamic groups that were based in South Lebanon at the time of the Lebanese civil war.

Afam:
@Mariory & Davidylan,

While I agree that discussion forums offer a good opportunity for sharing of information I hope you realize that a discussion forum can never be a substitute for real education.

Keep exposing your level of reasoning which in fairness to you is ok sha.

Just keep your noise hole shut. You have shown yourself for what you are. Don't try be make it out like you have been/are reasonable.

So the six years of Hezbolla rockets and Israel trying to use the UN is not an attempt at dialogue. hezbolla has attempted to cross the border before but were repulsed by Israeli border guards. Israel didn't take further action. So Israel should sit back and dialogue when the extremists are getting bolder and are crossing the Israeli border to attack?

It appears the only thing that will make some of you see what israel is really up against would be for a terrorist to detonate a chemical or nuclear weapon in Isreal. I am not saying Israel should kill Lebanese civilians, I am saying they have been left no choice by Hezbolla. If hezbolla relocates it's weapons, offices, and war rooms from civilian areas, Israel will not bomb there. After all, Israel has fought wars with Egypt and Syria. How many times did it bomb their civilian areas during these conflicts? None becos these countries value or valued the life of their citizens and do/did not use them as human shields.

Why you cannot see that the extremists do not want dialogue is baffling. Must another Sep 11 happen in Israel? Six years they did nothing. SIX YEARS.

nilla:
@ davidylan,

all of you silent? did you know me before this Israel vs Lebanon post? NO
you also seem to be forgeting Israel created Hezbollah (Indirectly ofcourse).

Israel did not create Hezbolla indirectly. iran created hezbolla from Shite groups present in the South of Lebanon. Israel went into lebanon to create a buffer zone to protect it's citizens living on the border from PLO attacks. I will say it once again incase your are leaning towards the notion that hezbolla are "freedom fighters" fighting for Lebanon.

Hezbolla is a shia group which seeks the destruction of Israel. It is not, and I reapt not a "freedom fighting group.
http://www.psepc.gc.ca/prg/ns/le/cle-en.asp#h20

coolmanlg:
Just like the US went into Iraq under false pretext, they want to Iran that way as well. Going by the lack of knowledge here, am sure lots of people here believed it when the US and UK came up with the dossier on Iraq. Its the same thing here!

I was squarely against the war in Iraq and still am and still will be for the rest of my life. Iraq had nothing to do with Sep 11.

Afam:
@Mariory,

The issue is not Iran, you may choose to clutch at anything to hang on to your warped sense of judgement but it won't help as you desperately trying to bring in any parameter you can lay your hands on to make a single valid point in a straightforward issue.

Lies often require many lies to keep them alive but truth comes like a solid rock and does not need so many supporters for it to stand.

You are pathetic. Iran isin't part of the issue? So why is the US part of the issue? Are you going to sit there and try in that warped mind of yours to say that Iran isin't invovled in this? Seriously, are you on drugs?

Wait I'll humor you and ask. So then what is the issue?