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Na normal hustle na.

Even before the requirement to link nin with line, when it was just the normal name, mothers maiden name, finger prints and picture, these guys still had a way to use other peoples information to pre register sim cards they sell at exorbitant prices

I agree with both the op and the first comment er.

One mind to have if you're in Nigeria and don't intend moving is to be contented. While some amenities maybe easily and readily available in those climes, the truth is that there's no society without it's underbelly.

Also, life goes on regardless of the part of the hemisphere one finds himself.

Good for the Americans.

Let them benefit from some of that African, nay, Nigerian, nay, Igbo blessings.

Igbo Amaka sor!

Mba.

Its all fair in love and warfare.
If love can be equated with war to allow bare knuckle and anything else, that goes to say a lot about love.

In one of his songs, Life we chose, Nas asked is Love a four letter word that deceives the ear?

I'd rather have friendship, partnership, relationships built on mutual interests and respect than that fickle fleeting thing called love.

I've been working on toning down the credence I give to all emotions on the spectrum, love inclusive, because emotions are mere feelings, and when the stimuli stops, so quickly do those feelings stop as well, and if you've done some really stupid things under the influence of any of those emotions, your post nut clarity may be ruefully awful.

That's a good job. Keep it up Sir.

I'll definitely go back to finish up the post.

Good to know you're the author.

I tagged you to another post, I hope you got the notification?

musicwriter:
I actually already have more than 100 pages offline cause it'll become a book, so what you have there is just a kind of summary. It's a very big story. I barely scratched the surface.

When ready the book would be announced here on Nairaland and would be given out for free.

cc: musicwriter get in here, you may like this thread.

While your submission seems very alluring, it however has a high likelihood of misleading.

It is acceptable that a thing can be good or evil, depends on the perspective, that same luxury cannot be accorded to the qualities "good" or "evil". The quality Good and evil cannot be subjective, rather other things are and can be qualified by these two qualities.

So while we can say that a car moving or stopping can be good or bad depending on the supervening circumstances, good or evil cannot be quantified that way, they're the answers at the end of the equation.

In conclusion, if I openly admit to causing something good and/or causing something evil to happen, its only normal if I'm praised for the good and held accountable for the evils I caused.

Dtruthspeaker:
Now you see the first lesson that you ought to know.

If your car brakes hold (stop) your tyres when you need to escape bandits, that definitely will be bad.

If your brakes hold when you need to rush your bleeding baby to the hospital, it would be bad.

So, now you see, EVIL IS A MATTER OF HARM AND DAMAGE AND DESTRUCTION.

And every thing can either be good or bad exactly as people say "your best friend may be your worst enemy and your worst enemy, your best friend".

So, now you see, a thing is not evil or good because you think it is.

And thank you for saying the truth that the making of good and evil "can not be said to be a bad thing,(evil)"

So, it was definitely very wrong and unjust for you to have called God, evil,
simply because He made and put in His creation, a thing that is exactly like "stop and go" aka "good and evil".

That article you prescribed is a lengthy but interesting read. I'm on it, gone have half way through.

musicwriter:
The Adam and Eve story is the most powerful story in the bible when understood properly. Of course, the man (Adam) must take responsibility for using that idea by the woman. Woman (Eve) must also take responsibility for whatever the man does with her ideas. That's indeed what the bible means by God casting them out of the garden of Eden. But the ancient authors never meant that they did something wrong, rather the author is simply saying that we're responsible for our actions and whatever decisions we make.

For anybody out there who needs more information, see what is Satan? What is Lucifer? The biggest secret in the world

One car maker obviously makes a car move and stop!

How would you say making a car stop moving is a bad thing?

Dtruthspeaker:
Let's clear your dirt!

Is it
A) a car maker who makes a car stop or

B) rather, he provided for how a moving car, can be stopped?

I wonder how you would answer! I sure hope your thinking works properly.

Because everyone knows that the correct Answer is B.

Therefore, if then the car maker made move (good) and stop (evil) and you say he "can not be said to be a bad thing,(evil), how then is God, The Creator not given the same judgement, when He is even the first to this "move" (Good) and stop (evil)?

By the time your semantics get too complex, you stand a chance of not clearly passing your message. Most of your comments below got a bit complex but I get your message.

When i said that the car maker being able to make a car stop and God's quality of doing good and evil are miles apart, I felt the reason was too obvious to warrant an explanation. But since you asked for it, here it goes;

A car maker being able to make a car move and stop at will can not be said to be a bad thing, none of those qualities are bad, but God being responsible for good and evil, that's self explanatory, one of those qualities is intrinsically bad.

Dtruthspeaker:
And this is why you people do not see clearly. You are looking at 2 different Issues at the same time, like attempting solving simultaneous equation without understanding them and how to properly resolve them.

Like simultaneous equation, each issue is resolved separately first.

First, you say that my car maker and the creative abilities of man is far apart and different from God's own act, YET YOU DID NOT LAY HOW IT IS DIFFERENT!

Then, you join a second issue of Satan's evil responsibility and liability to it.

These are 2 independent issue and they can not be taken together.

Therefore, put to rest the first issue, of the Rights and Power and evilness or otherwise of Creators in view of Creator God as mini-creator man. Let us see if your objection has any valid substance.

You did a good job explaining this.

Male and female thought patterns are quite different, we could do well by tapping into the others energy.

You see that Eden story, I've always known its not literal, there are a lot lessons embedded in it.

It was Adams duty to eventually decide to eat or not to eat the fruit, he failed to sift through the woman's proposition.

I like how you related it to science with the negative charge and positive charge thing.

musicwriter:
That's actually one of the many riddles being explained in the Adam and Eve story in the bible book of Genesis but which has been completely misunderstood by religion.

Ancient people studied nature thoroughly, they studied these things and they knew that the positive charge (woman) brings the type of idea that would totally be out of view of the negative charge (man). It's like the backend and frontend of something. None can be truly fulfilled without the other. Even in technology, its in use in building batteries and all sorts of apparatus.

Your job as a man is to consider those ideas by the woman and use it to balance out things for your own good. Women vice-versa

Since 2020, was there really still any restrictions in place?

I agree about that Colorado stuff.

No wonder it usually has those funny reaction on people when they take it too much.

How about loud?

Rastaramsey:
A good example of a synthetic weed is Colorado

The highness is just too much....


Natural ganga can't take you so far

How do you identify synthetic in Nigeria?

Quiny32323:
Na yesterday I threw away one wey one gal buy 4me, I rather smoke weed that all those synthetic nonsense.

Synthetic weed is dangerous, stay off it. K2/Spice, Moussa hand picked, colorado are a few.

Synthetic cannabinoids are human-made mind-altering chemicals that are either sprayed on dried, shredded plant material so they can be smoked or sold as liquids to be vaporized and inhaled in e-cigarettes and other devices. These products are also known as herbal or liquid incense.

These chemicals are called cannabinoids because they are similar to chemicals found in the marijuana plant. Because of this similarity, synthetic cannabinoids are sometimes misleadingly called synthetic marijuana (or fake weed), and they are often marketed as safe, legal alternatives to that drug. In fact, they are not safe and may affect the brain much more powerfully than marijuana; their actual effects can be unpredictable and, in some cases, more dangerous or even life-threatening.

You have proof of this?

I don't think there's ever been peace on earth, like there's never been a period without some major violence going on.


And you have run away from our other discussion

I got carried away, will return to it shortly.

Dtruthspeaker:
Yep! Before the 1000s.

And you have run away from our other discussion.

Good one.

But make this jarhead sha use im head. Na naija you dey so.

As you don see ya people finish, jejeje comot that uniform keep, make you nor go use your hand enter express.

Nigeria security personnel nor go fit handle the oppression if them see am like this, na to kpai am go be the next thing

So bro, lie low.

Missile that you cannot deploy on Russia immediately, is that one missile.

Continue with chest beating OK, meanwhile your citizens are going to mexico to buy fuel

Question: has there ever been a time when there was peace on earth?

Fg

Fg

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I may not call it luck, but a females perspective or energy is very unique that I actually seek a female's opinion before I embark on some projects.

Yes please, it is.

Hismasterpiece:
So you believe religion is political?

I don't think your analogy of the car maker and how he makes it move and stop is synonymous with God being the doer of good and evil. They're miles apart and parallel.

Assuming without conceding that your analogy is true and correct, why do Christians still hold Satan responsible for evil when god has already said he's the doer of all evils?

The case of Job is a clear example. God was an accomplice to whatever happened to job, for what reason? He's sadistic pleasure.

Dtruthspeaker:
Simple! Ignoring the use of an evil Bible, the creator of a car to made it to move forward does he not create something to make it stop?

Is there up without a down? right without left? In without out?

Did you ever consider these balances and controls out of place and called the creator of the things having these things evil?

No, you never did. You even praised the creator and called him very smart and good.

So how then can you not see that your fellow man creator, is simply replicating what his own Creator had done in and on His own creations which is this world and everything in it?

I'll be back to the rest of your post!

If they're unlicensed, that means they're breaking a law, what are you supposed to do to law breakers?

Are you not supposed to clamp down on them? Instead you're passing the buck to the citizens, how about those who're not able to tell a licensed from an unlicensed operator?

This my fellow Ika man just dey fall hands anyhow.

I nor get any sorry or rip to tell mumu people.

Lol, you sound so butthurt. Are you a clitoris, you come off as too sensitive.

Maybe because I'm poking at your worst fears; fears that it could be possible what you believe isn't real

PJtech:
Why are you questioning everyone?... Believe whatever you want

Shit didn't add up.

Read the Bible, read historical books, and truly saw religion for what it was; snake oil and brainwashing tool.

Plus I came to understand world politics and realised a European religion can not really serve my black ass.

Hismasterpiece:
So why did you decide to become an atheist?

This one you're running like a formula one race car, slow down and read this:

Isaiah 45:7
I am the LORD, and there is no other. I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things.

If your god is responsible for the above, why do you guys still pray against Satan?

In one breath you try to paint your god as all loving, but can you really hide the fact that he's ill tempered?
Below is your comment;

O Lord let your day of Anger Come soonest


You called Him "ill tempered" yet, He has not yet visited you to pour His Temper on you. Is an ill tempered person ever patient and long suffering?

Go read your old testament well and see records and accounts of despicable things purportedly done by your god and his servants


Even to your fellow co-creations, slightly higher in age than you, you are respectful, is it now He greater than you, you would disrespect?


Guy, respect is reciprocal, I've had to disregard and disrespect older people if and when they cross my line or disrespect me so I don't know what you're speaking of. Except who you're referring to is a criminal who would exert and demand respect through violence in which case the law of the jungle takes priority, kill or be killed, In which case, if I'm able to draw first, I'll kill the motherfuucker.


I therefore Curse you, in His Name and by His Authority that Goodness shall never enter your hands, your suffering shall increase from day to day, and you would know no joy only pain, until the day of His Anger.

Finally, you resort to the last trick in the book employed by pastors and cultists, if all else fails, threaten violence. But I got news for you, the venom of a snake does nothing to the back of the tortoise. So take your empty threats and bullying else where.

If these things actually work, don't you think all evils would have ceased in Nigeria and all evil people would have perished? But you refuse to think.

Dtruthspeaker:
Imagine. Your mannequin in your warehouse is commanding you to show yourself. And then you would answer it.

Oya, lie!

Even to your fellow co-creations, slightly higher in age than you, you are respectful, is it now He greater than you, you would disrespect?

Your co creation will kill you immediately if and when you disrespect them, but because He is Silent and too patient, you continue to insult Him?

O Lord let your day of Anger Come soonest



Did a mannequin make itself or does a House build itself?

You do not need believe, just your natural eyes.



Even before now, did God talk or push you that you can say He forced you?

Is it not rather that He has stayed in His Own Place yet, it is you who have left your place to start insulting and abusing Him?

You called Him "ill tempered" yet, He has not yet visited you to pour His Temper on you. Is an ill tempered person ever patient and long suffering?

You call Him despicable things when all He had ever done was Good Things with the best being Warning you that 'you are in a bad place get out from there" but you did not listen but said you would manage it like that.

He Warned that it would get worse but you said you don't care.

But now that it is worse as He had Warned, now you insult Him.

I therefore Curse you, in His Name and by His Authority that Goodness shall never enter your hands, your suffering shall increase from day to day, and you would know no joy only pain, until the day of His Anger.

So because the man was atheist when had purportedly had the experience automatically makes him true and correct? Sheesh.

You see where religious folks always miss me, I'm telling you that I'm not convinced by a book you brought, that the book was doctored, yet you're referring to same book as proof of your claim. Damn it!

Now, go back and read my last question that you bolded and answered, there's a salient word there ....freely.... Oyibo will never give you anything freely.

At what price did they give us those things you claimed they gave us?

Firstly, most of Eastern Nigeria which is the part I come from was already an acephalous democratic society, so oyibo didn't give us democracy.

You speak of them giving us the gospel, of what use was that to us if not for proper colonisation, enslavement and plundering of our resources.

If oyibo has anything good, my guy, they won't give it to you a black man freely, they'll keep it to themselves. Look at how they have been treating people of colour and blacks in their countries, do you think if these same people have the knowledge and access to a heaven, do you think they'll give it to you a Blackman?

You speak of them giving us education, an education that has not been able to really serve our purpose? An education that teaches you from a European perspective?


Lastly, I want you to conduct your own research into how the church and Christianity came about. For clues, I'll refer you to read about Emperor Constantine, the Council of Nicea. Do that and get back to me.

Incase you are not aware, religion, Christianity and Islam were both tools of world domination.

Hismasterpiece:
So you're saying the man is a liar? Remember, the man was an atheist when he had the experience. As for the evidence of his claims, there are enough scriptures in the Bible to back them up.

As for the second bolded they gave us the Gospel didn't they? Isn't it the missionaries that stopped the killing of twins? Isn't it the missionaries that built schools for us and gave us education? Isn't it the white man that gave us democracy? Which universities are leading education in Nigeria? Is it not schools established by religious folk?

Bro the white man is not your enemy.

That shit don't work!