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 Christianity Etc › Re: Testimonies On Why We Stopped Tithing Here by MarkMiwerds(m): 11:28am On Nov 08, 2018 |
Hebrews 7:1-10 says absolutely nothing about a required monetary tithe. It shows the tithe of war spoils that Abram gave to Melchizedek, and the tithe of agriculture that the Levites received of the children of Israel. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: John Macarthur's 2013 Strange Fire Conference by MarkMiwerds(m): 11:25am On Nov 08, 2018 |
I did thank the surgeon. But ultimately, I thanked God who gave the surgeon the knowledge and the skill to operate on my eye when no other surgeon could for many years. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: John Macarthur's 2013 Strange Fire Conference by MarkMiwerds(m): 2:58am On Nov 05, 2018 |
BabaGnoni:It took some time, but God did heal one of my eyes with the help of a skilled surgeon in 2016. Why not both eyes? God has His reasons. I praise Him for what He has done for me thus far in my life.
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Nine Reasons Why You Should Tithe by MarkMiwerds(m): 2:48am On Nov 05, 2018 |
What do you understand by the phrase, as quoted above by Mark miwerds, Gal 3:13: Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law?I believe the context of Galatians 3 reveals that those who are saved are not subject to the penalties of the Law that were imposed upon unsaved Jews who transgressed the Law. What is the true biblical tithe God is speaking on in Malachi 3?Since Luke 16:16 says that "the Law was until John," and the Law was given for the children of Israel to observe once they entered the land of Canaan, (Deuteronomy 6:1-3; 12:1,10-11) Malachi could only have been speaking of the tithe required by Law. That tithe, according to Leviticus 27:30-33, was agricultural. Where did anyone tithe money in the bible?There is no record of anyone giving a tenth of their monetary wages to the House of God. Where did Jesus, his apostles or anyone at all tithe in the NT church?There is no record in the Bible of anyone giving a tenth of their monetary income to the New Testament Church. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Success Stories Of Tithers You Can Add Yours by MarkMiwerds(m): 6:05am On Mar 30, 2017 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Success Stories Of Tithers You Can Add Yours by MarkMiwerds(m): 5:00am On Mar 30, 2017 |
These stories about Rockefeller, Colgate, et.al., tithing are all as phony as a three-dollar bill. I have a book titled, "Mr. Rockefeller's Ledger." ©1897 In it, J.D. Rockefeller addresses the Young Men's Bible Study at Fifth Avenue Baptist Church in New York City where he was a member. Mr. Rockefeller gives the account of his earnings, which clearly are not tithed when he tells how much he gave to the Church. His first earnings, he said were from August 27, 1855 - January 1, 1856. He told the young men he earned $50 for those four months. With the $50, he paid his washerwoman and the lady he boarded with. Then, he began giving "A PENNY" to his Sunday School class each Sunday. He said he would have given more, but could not afford it. The year 1856 brought Rockefeller a raise. He was now earning $25 a month totaling $300.00 a year. With his raise, he gave more to the Sunday School Class. Instead of a penny each Sunday, he put ten cents in the plate. Let's see,... a penny each Sunday for 52 Sundays. That adds up to $0.52. Fifty-two is not a tenth of $50,... not by a long shot. $5.20 out of $300? Again, not a tithe. Colgate, on the other hand, gave generously to the Baptist Church he was a member of. Where there were not enough pew-renters, Colgate made up the difference needed for the Church to continue out of his own pocket. But never once did his biography say he tithed every dollar he made. I believe the stories of these men tithing were invented by pastors in hopes that church members would tithe, if for no other reason but greed, The thought of getting rich by tithing would certainly stir up greed in many a heart. |
| Politics › Re: School Staff Over Non-payment Of Tithes. by MarkMiwerds(m): 8:29pm On Nov 22, 2016 |
sonofluc1fer:No, He made them for the children of Israel who were living in the Promised Land. African's can live anywhere. But it was only the Israeli's living in the Promised Land that God required to tithe. |
| Politics › Re: School Staff Over Non-payment Of Tithes. by MarkMiwerds(m): 7:29pm On Nov 22, 2016 |
Study your Bible! Monetary tithes were never commanded for, carried to, collected in, or controlled by the Church that is Christ's Body.
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| Politics › Re: School Staff Over Non-payment Of Tithes. by MarkMiwerds(m): 7:26pm On Nov 22, 2016 |
Chevinsmedia:Your friend needs to leave that place of employment. God never commanded anyone to tithe their naira. The Bible says that God's holy tithe was to be agricultural, not monetary. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Give Your 'Tithes' And Offerings To The Less Fortunate In Church by MarkMiwerds(m): 8:34am On Nov 17, 2016 |
alexleo:I pity those who are deceived by the monetary tithe requirement lie. When giving money to a religious organization, one can share any monetary amount one chooses; be it 1%,10%,or100%. The problem is not in the individual choosing himself how much money he will give to his religious organization, as 2 Corinthians 9:7 clearly instructs each man to give “as he purposeth in his heart”. The problem is when the giver is giving 10% of his money to the religious institution he attends because: a) Leviticus 27:30 says, “The tithe is the Lord’s; it is holy to the Lord.” b) Malachi 3:8-9 state that non tither’s are robbing God. c) Malachi 3:8-9 says non tither’s are cursed. d) Malachi 3:10 says to bring the tithe to the storeHouse e) Jesus said in the Gospels that tithing is to be done. f) The Preacher says that God requires us to tithe. Why are the above examples problematic? In examples a – e, one is attempting to tithe because of what is written in the Law, yet: 1) they are not wanting to tithe what the LORD said His holy tithe was to consist of, i.e.; agricultural produce and livestock (Lev. 27:30-33) 2) they are not wanting to tithe where the LORD said His holy tithe was to be taken, i.e.; farming communities in the land of Canaan (Deut. 6:1-3; 12:1,10-11) 3) they are not wanting to tithe to whom the LORD said His holy tithe was to be given, i.e.; Levites, widows, orphans and foreigners (Num. 18:24-26; Deut. 14:28-29; Neh. 10:37-38) In other words, they are attempting to justify tithing by looking to the Mosaic Law, yet offending in several points of that Law. The Apostle James said that to offend in one point of the Law, is to be guilty of all. (James 2:10) The Apostle Paul said that, “by the deeds of the flesh there shall no flesh be justified.” (Romans 3:20) Why is example f above problematic? Aside from the obvious fact that the Preacher is lying when he says God requires us to tithe our money, it contradicts 2 Corinthians 9:7. It is another person dictating what you must give, instead of allowing you to choose what you will give. When they believe the pastor's lie that God requires ten percent of their monetary income, they reject God's truth. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Give Your 'Tithes' And Offerings To The Less Fortunate In Church by MarkMiwerds(m): 8:25am On Nov 17, 2016 |
Acidosis:If God wanted us to tithe to the local church run by pastors, He would have given us the commandment! But, such a commandment is not found anywhere in God's word. Further, there is no such commandment for a tithe of one's monetary income in God's word either. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Give Your 'Tithes' And Offerings To The Less Fortunate In Church by MarkMiwerds(m): 8:21am On Nov 17, 2016 |
Ubenedictus:Actually, Malachi 3 says to take the tithes to the storehouse. The church is not the storehouse. The storehouse was a three-tiered structure attached to the Temple in Jerusalem. (see 1 Kings 6:6) God's word never said to take tithes to a local church. It said to take them to the storehouse. Concerning the poor, God's word says the tithe is to be given to them every three years. (see Deuteronomy 14:28-29) |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The truth your pastor would not tell you about tithes by MarkMiwerds(m): 4:53am On Nov 03, 2016 |
Image123:Abram's tithe was of war spoils,... not of his monetary income. The children of Israel's tithe was of agricultural increase,... not of thei monetary income. Question: Since there is no mention of a tithe of monetary income in the Bible, why should I believe the preacher who says God requires tithes of my monetary income? 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The truth your pastor would not tell you about tithes by MarkMiwerds(m): 11:53am On Oct 30, 2016 |
According to the Bible, you should not be tithing unless you are a physical descendant of Jacob (Leviticus 27:34) who inherited land in Canaan (Deuteronomy 6:1-3; 12:1,10-11) on which you farm or raise livestock. (Leviticus 27:30-33) Further, according to the Bible, you should not be tithing to the House of God unless you are a direct descendant of Israel's tribe of Levi. (Nehemiah 10:37-38) 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The truth your pastor would not tell you about tithes by MarkMiwerds(m): 5:08am On Oct 26, 2016 |
UnstoppableOla:Because their god is their belly. Jesus warned us of them in Matthew 7:15. Matthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. The word “ravening” in the verse above, is defined as “preying with rapacity.” Rapacity is “the practice of extorting or exacting by oppressive injustice.” An interesting thought,… Jesus was warning His Apostle’s to beware of false prophets who would seem to be legit men of God, but were in reality, #extortioners. Extortion: The obtaining of property from another, with his consent, induced by wrongful use of actual or threatened force, violence, or fear, or under color of official right. In our pulpits today, we have preachers who seem to be legit men of God, but are in reality, extortioners. They will stand behind their pulpits and tell you that God requires you to #tithe your monetary income. And, no doubt, many who are #ignorant as to what is actually written in the word of God, will be led astray by the pastor’s deceit. They will yield to the monetary tithe requirement lie, dropping either a check that represents 10% of their monetary income, or they will put 10% of their monetary income in the plate in the form of cash. Still many others, will use their credit cards or debit cards to “pay” the 10% that they are told God requires them to give to the House of God. Those who do not study to show themselves approved by God have no idea they are actually being robbed. That their money is being extorted from them by #deceivers. In the Bible, God’s holy tithe… a) agricultural. Leviticus 27:30-33 b) was required of the children of Israel. Leviticus 27:34 c) was not to be observed in any geographical location other than the Promised Land. Deuteronomy 6:1-3; 12:1,10-11 d) was to be given to Levites, widows, orphans and foreigners in the Promised Land. Numbers 18:24-26; Deuteronomy 14:28-29; Nehemiah 10:37-38 e) was never commanded of Gentile nations. Psalms 147:19-20 f) was not to be imposed upon saved Gentiles. Acts 15:19-28 g) was still agricultural in the last place it was seen as a command in the Bible. Hebrews 7:5-9 h) was still the property of the sons of Levi in the last place it was seen as a command in the Bible. Hebrews 7:5-9 Given these irrefutable proofs in Scripture that God’s commanded tithe was never monetary, it is even more evident that the preachers of today, those who teach that God requires monetary tithes of the Body of Christ, are indeed ravening wolves. They are extortioners. The monetary tithe exists because of lies from the pulpits and ignorance in the pews. 5 Likes
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| Christianity Etc › Re: The truth your pastor would not tell you about tithes by MarkMiwerds(m): 1:18am On Oct 26, 2016 |
UnstoppableOla:In order for a Christian to return God’s commanded tithe today, that Christian would have to: a) be a physical descendant of Jacob. (Leviticus 27:34; Psalms 147:19-20) b) be given a portion of the Promised Land by God as an inheritance. (Genesis 28:13-15) c) live in the Promised Land (Deuteronomy 6:1-3; 12:1,10-11) d) raise crops or breed livestock on that portion of the Promised Land he inherited (Leviticus 27:30-33) e) take a tenth part of the crops raised and/or every tenth animal of the livestock to pass under a rod to a physical descendant of Levi in the farming communities (Numbers 18:24-26; Nehemiah 10:37-38) f) be unfaithful to Jesus Christ (Romans 7:3-4) Any attempt to tithe anything that is not agricultural; any attempt to tithe to anyone who is not a direct descendant of Levi; any attempt to tithe in any other geographic location than the Promised Land, is in direct contradiction to God’s word and would not be obeying God in the tithe.. God's commanded tithe was NEVER of the tither's monetary income. 2 Likes
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| Christianity Etc › Re: The truth your pastor would not tell you about tithes by MarkMiwerds(m): 12:19am On Oct 18, 2016 |
Image123:The text of Genesis 14 & Hebrews 7 reveals that it was only spoils of war that Abram gave as tithe. The tithe did not come from Abram's monetary income. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The truth your pastor would not tell you about tithes by MarkMiwerds(m): 11:30pm On Oct 16, 2016 |
Image123:Abram's tithe was of war spoils, not of his monetary income. Israel's tithe was of agricultural increase, not of their monetary income. Is Tithing Money a Sin? by Ronald W Robey Is tithing money a sin? Yes, it is,... if you are tithing money in order to obey the Biblical command to tithe. God's Word is the final authority on what is to be tithed, not the preacher behind the pulpit.. The decision as to what is to be tithed; to whom the tithe is to be given; and where it is to be tithed has already been established in God's Word. God said His holy tithe is agriculrural, not monetary. (Lev. 27:30-33) He said it is for the physical descendants of Levi in the Promised Land, not for Gentiles on Gentile soil. (Num. 18:24-26; Neh. 10:37-38) God's Word says that sin is the transgression of the Law. (1 John 3:4) When a preacher states that God requires monetary tithes, that preacher is lying, since God's Word says His holy tithe is to be agricultural. When a preacher states that God's holy tithe is to be taken to Gentile churches on Gentile soil, that preacher is lying, since God said His holy tithes are to go to Levites in farming communities in the Promised Land. When those who believe that God's Word commands them to tithe, tithe money, or they tithe to Gentile churches on Gentile soil, they transgress the very Law they claim to be keeping. In conclusion, to tithe money in response to Leviticus 27:30, Malachi 3:10, Matthew 23:23, Luke 11:42; Hebrews 7:5-9; or any other Scriptural command to tithe is, in fact, sin. #tithes #tithing 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The truth your pastor would not tell you about tithes by MarkMiwerds(m): 12:15pm On Oct 15, 2016 |
Many advocates of the monetary tithe requirement doctrine enter the discussion with absolutely no Scripture to prove their doctrine to be correct. Likewise, they offer absolutely no Scripture to prove the doctrine that I preach to be wrong. I provide Scripture to support everything that I teach and preach. And yet, many teachers of the monetary tithe requirement doctrine claim that I am poisoning the minds of the members of the Church with my doctrine. I encourage all to be as the Berean's of Acts 17:11. Receive what I teach with readiness of mind. Then, search the Scriptures I have given to see if they say what I have presented. When you find that the Scriptures do, in fact, say what I teach and preach, you will realize that I am not poisoning Church members minds at all. Rather, I am administering an antidote to the poison that the monetary tithe teachers have already given their congregations. I administer Truth from God’s word to counteract the lie of the monetary tithe requirement doctrine. 4 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The truth your pastor would not tell you about tithes by MarkMiwerds(m): 6:56am On Oct 11, 2016 |
Matthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. The word “ravening” in the verse above, is defined as “preying with rapacity.” Rapacity is “the practice of extorting or exacting by oppressive injustice.” An interesting thought,… Jesus was warning His Apostle’s to beware of false prophets who would seem to be legit men of God, but were in reality, #extortioners. Extortion: The obtaining of property from another, with his consent, induced by wrongful use of actual or threatened force, violence, or fear, or under color of official right. In our pulpits today, we have preachers who seem to be legit men of God, but are in reality, extortioners. They will stand behind their pulpits and tell you that God requires you to #tithe your monetary income. And, no doubt, many who are #ignorant as to what is actually written in the word of God, will be led astray by the pastor’s deceit. They will yield to the monetary tithe requirement lie, dropping either a check that represents 10% of their monetary income, or they will put 10% of their monetary income in the plate in the form of cash. Still many others, will use their credit cards or debit cards to “pay” the 10% that they are told God requires them to give to the House of God. Those who do not study to show themselves approved by God have no idea they are actually being robbed. That their money is being extorted from them by #deceivers. In the Bible, God’s holy tithe… a) agricultural. Leviticus 27:30-33 b) was required of the children of Israel. Leviticus 27:34 c) was not to be observed in any geographical location other than the Promised Land. Deuteronomy 6:1-3; 12:1,10-11 d) was to be given to Levites, widows, orphans and foreigners in the Promised Land. Numbers 18:24-26; Deuteronomy 14:28-29; Nehemiah 10:37-38 e) was never commanded of Gentile nations. Psalms 147:19-20 f) was not to be imposed upon saved Gentiles. Acts 15:19-28 g) was still agricultural in the last place it was seen as a command in the Bible. Hebrews 7:5-9 h) was still the property of the sons of Levi in the last place it was seen as a command in the Bible. Hebrews 7:5-9 Given these irrefutable proofs in Scripture that God’s holy tithe was never monetary, it is even more evident that the preachers of today, those who teach that God requires monetary tithes of the Body of Christ, are indeed ravening wolves. They are extortioners. The monetary tithe exists because of lies from the pulpits and ignorance in the pews. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Tithes And Offerings Are Eternal Principles by MarkMiwerds(m): 12:32am On Oct 03, 2016 |
Gombs:May your eyes never dim. But, as in the case of mine, if the ever do, hold on to what you have seen. Before my surgery, I had to rely on memories of what I had seen in my pre-teen to early adult years. It helps to picture a bird singing in a tree when you hear his voice. Seeing the memories helps considerably to deal with the darkness I experienced. Now, I walk with no cane at all. I still wear the sunglasses, as everything around me is so bright compared to before. God be praised! attaching a picture of me going into surgery. The eye covered is the one they operated on... 1 Like
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Tithes And Offerings Are Eternal Principles by MarkMiwerds(m): 11:40pm On Oct 01, 2016 |
Gombs:Yes. I was born with bad eyes. By the time I was two, I was wearing glasses. In my twenties, I was declared to be blind, my vision had deteriorated that much. Wanting to be more independent, I was sent to a school for the blind in 1987 to learn to read and write braille and to walk with my folding white cane. Still dependent in many areas though, such as being carried to doctor appointments, shopping, etc., etc.. Five years ago, a state doctor operated on my wife's eyes to correct some visual problems. (cataracts) He did such a good job on her, I visited him and asked if there was anything he could do for me. He examined my eyes and put me under the knife a few weeks later. And today, I can see with one eye. The other, he said is not operable. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Tithes And Offerings Are Eternal Principles by MarkMiwerds(m): 6:19am On Oct 01, 2016 |
Gombs:I have been around. Had surgery on one of my eyes and am now able to see things I had not seen in more than thirty years. The surgeon gives God the glory. 4 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How Pastors Receive CURSES - T.B. Joshua by MarkMiwerds(m): 4:51am On Sep 26, 2016*. Modified: 5:55pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
Montaque:God never commanded tithes of money. He never even said we are to give a tenth of our increase. He said the children of Israel were to give a tenth of their agricultural increase. And that wasn't even to go to the House of God. It was to be taken to the Levites in the farming communities in the Promised Land. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How Pastors Receive CURSES - T.B. Joshua by MarkMiwerds(m): 8:50am On Sep 25, 2016 |
Montaque:What Abram gave to Melchizedek was the spoills of war. Not Abram's monetary income. Nor were the tithes of the Israelites of their monetary income. No one in the Bible tithed their monetary income. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Tithes And Offerings Are Eternal Principles by MarkMiwerds(m): 1:07am On Sep 25, 2016 |
Many tithe proponents, in a feeble attempt to prove we are supposed to tithe today, will run to Genesis 14 as their proof-text. Their argument is that tithing existed before the Mosaic Law, and is therefore “an eternal moral principle.” But, is it really an “eternal moral principle” as they claim? I believe Scripture proves it is not based on the following verse… Exodus 10:26 (KJV) 26 Our cattle also shall go with us; there shall not an hoof be left behind; for thereof must we take to serve the LORD our God; and we know not with what we must serve the LORD, until we come thither. In the text, Moses and Aaron argue with Pharaoh. Pharaoh wanted the Israelites to leave their cattle behind. Moses and Aaron said the animals would go with them, because they did not know what God would want them to serve Him with. Had tithing been an eternal moral principle, there would have been no uncertainty. Moses and Aaron would have known that ten percent of something would have been required. Yet they had no idea what would be required in serving God. And, what was the sacrifice that was made when the Israelites left Egypt and arrived at the place God took them to? Was it a tenth of their monetary income? Of course, it is easy to see that it was not a tenth of Moses’ monetary income. Nor did God require Moses to give a tenth of his livestock. as service to Him. As a matter of fact, many sacrifices were made prior to the Law. None of which was a tenth. For this reason, we can know assuredly that the tithe that Abram gave to Melchizedek was not continued and could not be an “eternal moral principle”. Nor was the tithe that the Israelites gave an eternal moral principle. Hebrews 7:18 states that the command to tithe was "weak and unprofitable," and was therfore, "disannulled." 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Tithes And Offerings by MarkMiwerds(m): 6:28pm On Sep 23, 2016 |
OLAADEGBU:Have read it many times. Wonderful verse! However, as you should know, the Psalms were written prior to the death, burial and resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ. At that time, God dwelled in the Holy of Holies in the Temple. The Temple was the House of God. However, in the New Testament, the Physician Luke records these words of Stephen, "Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet," God no longer dwells in a physical structure made with man's hands. He now lives in the hearts and minds of His people. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Tithes And Offerings by MarkMiwerds(m): 7:15pm On Sep 21, 2016 |
Image123:The Church meets many places. Sometimes in a building, sometimes not. The Church is the people,... not the place. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Tithes And Offerings by MarkMiwerds(m): 5:25pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
Funny, I can't find the phrase "have church" in my Bible. I don't "go to" church,... I am part of the Church. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Beware!! An Eye Opener To The Christain Faithfuls!! by MarkMiwerds(m): 7:50pm On Sep 19, 2016 |
Isaiah 24:5 The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant. Today's tithe teachers certainly have "changed the ordinance" of the tithe. God declared that His Holy tithe was to be crops and livestock. In the Word of God, from the giving of the Law and forward, we see that His Holy tithe was consistently to come from agricultural crops and livestock in the Promised Land. But man has changed the ordinance 1 ) From crops and livestock, to money. 2 ) From in the Promised Land, to all over the world 3 ) From for the children of Israel, to for Christian 4 ) From yearly, to weekly 5 ) From to sons of Levi, widows, orphans, foreigners and family, to to Pastors 6 ) From God's increase, to man's income. Yes, man has "changed the ordinance" of the tithe into something God never authorized it to be. God's word is for ever settled in Heaven. Man may have changed the ordinance of tithing, but God never did. His word still says that His holy tithe is to come from His increase; is agricultural; that it is for the children of Israel; that it is to be given to the sons of Levi; that it is to be observed in the Promised Land. Let God be true, but every monetary tithe teaching preacher be exposed as a thief and a liar. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Tithes And Offerings by MarkMiwerds(m): 5:50pm On Sep 17, 2016 |
OLAADEGBU:Actually, no,... there are no Scriptures encouraging us to "go to Church." The Church is not a brick and mortar building. Stephen said in the book of the Acts of the Apostles that God no longer dwells in Temples made with hands. We who have placed our trust in Christ are the Church. Should we assemble together? When possible, assembling is good. Paul told the Jews in the diaspora to not forsake the assembling of themselves together. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How Pastors Receive CURSES - T.B. Joshua by MarkMiwerds(m): 5:52pm On Sep 16, 2016 |
TheSixthSense:Thank you! God bless you and your family this wonderful day! |
