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sonmvayina:
Nah, you have not grasped the premise of the thread...
The letter killeth, the spirit giveth life... The stories are all parables, meant to instruct you Spiritually

hopefulLandlord:
It encourages lazy thinking

Q: why are the Oyinbos inventing so many cool things and their countries are so advanced?

A: They are using Juju

Conversation stops there and the answer feels cozy and good to the giver. Some even say the Jujus of the Oyinbos can be used for good while that of Africans can only be used for the bad. I ask such people how come Africans aren't the ones that invented atomic bomb? cruise missile? because I could've sworn Oyinbos are the ones making both beneficial and destructive things

hopefulLandlord:
You've false heard the stories?

They'd say the engineer in charge would go underwater to meet the "Mami water" there and obtain permission to build bridge(s) over the water. They'd say the Mami water would then give them permission and give him the supernatural enablement to build the bridge which would've been impossible without those powers

Every time I'm told these stories as a teenager I couldn't counter it cuz my inability to explain how those bridges are built is a hindrance. As I grew and learnt more I realised the marine juju bridge stories are just explanation conjured by the mentally lazy. why go through the stress of asking, researching, studying, practicing, testing and verifying when one can just assume some Invisible spiritual entities are responsible?

This is the same reason people just plug god into whatever ignorance they feel exists, why worry yourself over those when you can just insert god there and call it a day?

sonmvayina:
Yes, in my post I said the new testament is garbage... It is not the same... Christianity was created to deceive...

RuthlessLeader:
One Christian website.

sonmvayina:
Take for example.. The story of the God killing Onan for failing to impregnate his brothers wife and raising children for his brother and anytime he had conjugal relation with her, he allowed his seed to run to the ground...

The message is simply to teach us about the danger of pleasure without responsibility...

Holyede:
OP, IF CHRISTIANITY IS CRAP, WHY BOTHER AND NOT IGNORE IT? OR YOU AND YOUR FELL
OW FURNACE BOUND SATANISTS WANT US TO CLAP FOR YOUR CRAP FROM SCRAP OF A BRAIN? REPENT AND BEHAVE

sonmvayina:
I want to open a thread called "the letter killeth" and I want all of us to come there, you all have been looking at this stories from only the Christian perspective, which to me is foooolish and devoid of any substance... If what I have in mind materialises then, I bet you all... The Bible stories will become clearer... Thanks

hopefulLandlord:
This is a question I've always asked those that believe juju powers are real. How can we use this juju powers to make Nigeria better?

The day I asked the question for the first time was the only attempt at answering the question.

I was discussing with 2 men and 1 woman. their first reply was to warn me not to dare the powers of juju (they knew I'm an atheist). I replied that its not what my question implied and infact my question was built on the assumption that jujus are as powerful as they say they are. After a lot of running around the question without attempting to answer it the woman said that "Juju powers are made only to wrought destruction as its from the devil so it can never be used for good"

At that point I just nodded and changed the topic. I couldn't bring myself to challenge her thinking further at that time. This is a woman THAT BELIEVES ALL THESE WORLD CLASS BRIDGES IN DEVELOPED COUNTRIES ARE DONE IN COLLABORATION WITH MARINE JUJU POWERS. isn't that an example of "using juju for good" if its true that juju were involved in the constructions of those bridges? doesn't this point to the fact that she's compartmentalising?

It was then I noticed people believe all these juju stories due to a combination of fear, ignorance and indoctrination and would do anything to protect that belief

NPComplete:
You are so stupid that it's a miracle how u woke up and got up from your bed today without tripping all over yourself or walking straight into a bus. There is probably still hope for you.

So you actually believe that no one called into question the validity of Jesus worship after the fall of Constantinople? Really? Even the muslims that conquered Constantinople? My guy stop making a fool of yourself online.

Also we are not unaware of your subtle attempts to show off your knowledge of history by bringing up Constantinople and other places. We are unimpressed. Nothing you have said is new to anyone. The mere fact that you are unable to table your logic and reply @dorox appropriately but now instead regurgitating history you have learnt by rote is moronic and sad frankly.

When you start making sense we will let you know.

prolog2:
Only a teenager will type the same nonesense as you and still believe he is making sense
I explained to you that most countries have their own religion and that it is amazingly stupid to start asking a country which lost a war why its Gods didn't come to its rescue. When Constantinople lost to the Muslims, nobody attacked Jesus. Basically, you are acting like a kid and that annoys people like me who have little patience for stupidity. Read what I wrote and stop thinking this is a game.

sKeetz:
Have you eaten today?

prolog2:
shut the Bleep up, I have already answered your stupid questions. Keep on with your nonsensical delusions. I don't need to repeat my self, idiot.

prolog2:
don't waste my time, "juju", as you call it, is a religion. I am pretty sure the Germans had a religion when they got defeated. Yet I haven't met anybody moronic enough to ask the Germans why Jesus didn't save them. Your question is beyond childish and stupid.

prolog2:
historical fact? Well I guess the words history and fact are lost on you guys. Napoléon was also exiled after being defeated. I guess his magic didn't work, what a humiliation! Any king who suffers the same fate as Napoléon is a humiliated king. Such a humiliation! I notice that you avoided to state your own origin, probably because you know there is nothing to be proud of in the history of your own people. On the internet, sons of slaves like yourself attack sons of heroic kings. Most of you guys descend from either slaves either fucktards who didn't put up a fight against the brits. It takes a strong African king to fight the British empire. By the way, here are other kings who got exiled: emir of kano, shehu of born. The sultan of sokoto got killed in battle. You what did your "King" do? As you can see, all the greats faught the losing battle no matter the odds and they met their fates like heroes, whereas your chicken hearted ancestors died as cowards.

MajorJeffery:
Oh my God, this is making me shed tears right now. Why didn't this lady come to Nairaland and put up this toddler up for adoption or seek for help.

Please to all regretting mothers here I beg of you. If you don't want your kids, let us know. Send PMs if you want your privacy.

RIP kid.

dalaman:
Seriously, that guy is totally insane. He's there in the politics section displaying the same madness he displays here. I had to call out his madness there not long ago.

Zirah:
No, I'm not. I wish I was for I'm beginning to question religion/christianity/God. I've been frequenting threads like this in recent times. I was on this thread some days ago https://www.nairaland.com/3078223/pastor-atheist-why-never-christian looking to validate myself with regards to how I feel about God. I read to page 35 in anticipation of op's proof that Christianity is a scam but got frustrated that he just went on and on saying nothing really.

I've hated God and called him names. I've told myself I don't want a partial God. I've scoffed at Christians who spend hours on end in church, attending one service to the other. I'm still in doubt as I speak, why I'm on this thread for conviction. Was making sense of your perspective on God and religion until I got to the part you made an inquiry to which I responded.

budaatum:
Proofs or evidences for the claims of Christianity

Some people, vaxx, to name one has rather sadly allowed this sort of claim to be made, that there is no evidence for Christianity. Fortunately, I am still pissed off at the op for missing me out in a recent thread and have not found it in me to forgive him yet. So, if any Christians could provide me with some valid claims that Christians make, I would personally provide evidence for them.

To give a taste, I am starting with the first item on Dalaman's crap list!



First let us determine what is meant by the statement "Prayer works". I suggest it simply means that if one prays, one receives the outcome that one has prayed for. So the question is, "does prayer provide one with what one has prayed for?"

Let's get one thing clear. if you have followed some of buda's posts, you would be aware that buda has been praying that the Ferrari salesperson accept the imaginary one million pounds in her bank account in exchange for a spanking brand new red Ferrari but still rides a bike. So it is safe to say that buda's prayer has not worked. However, is that evidence that prayer does not work, or evidence that perhaps buda does not know how and what to pray for?

In a proper Christian home, the family gathers in the morning and prays before everyone goes off to their daily doings. Mummy prays for what she wants, daddy prays for what he wants, the children pray for what they want and the house help pray for what they want, and everyone says amen to everyone else's prayer. I think the effect of this is that the family communicate their desires to one another and you can't suggest that that does not make for a better home. So, morning prayer works in creating a family environment where communication happens and everyone knows the desires of the hearts of other members of the family.

After morning prayer, we all go about our daily business. If anything, the children know what the desires of their parents are for them, for if they have prayed that their children be safe through the day, the child could safely infer that mummy and daddy love him or her. So, prayer has created a rather healthy psychological environment for the child, which is a good thing.

The child prays everyday, lets say, to pass it's exams. I am certain that child is very likely to remember to study at some point in the day as it's constant prayer could not but make it understand that not studying is the opposite of praying to pass. So, praying is more likely to make one focus on achieving the outcomes that one is praying for.

The house help pray that their master and mistress prosper and treats them well, and I do think that a master and mistress that hears such prayers would assume that their house help like them and they might just like the house help too and want the best for them. They sure might consider themselves part of the one same family and in for the long term.

Night comes, and the family gathers together again to pray, perhaps expressing gratitude forgetting through the day and hoping tomorrow comes. Again the family communes together forming a cohesive bond, which is a good thing.

I could go on, but I hope the above is sufficient to show the benefit of payer and the way in which it might be said to 'work', which in effect is evidence that the op has made a rather false claim about at least one of the claims that Christians make.

Do beware though that while the Christians call all the above 'prayer', a family that sits down together and discusses their daily desire amongst themselves whilst calling on a stone and not some some supreme being would also achieve the same results.

Zirah:
Stop there. I know of someone who was healed of HIV.

Mujtahida:
Your logic is false. You can't tolerate if you have no respect. They are two sides of the same coin. We must respect people, treat them as humans. I fail many times in this regard but I feel this is how it should be.

dalaman:
"You cannot read the Bible and invent a drug, a car, a weather forecasting device, a disaster prevention machine or any other technology. The Bible does not contain any formula, theory, solution or research through which you can come about inventing anything to benefit humanity.
All the Bible knows is "let there be fish and there was fish" as if that explains anything about fishes and other aquatic life forms.
That book is totally useless to humanity".
- Purity Layemo